Re: next best thing to cure?

[Guest guest]

>

> which medicine do you think is the next best thing to cure?????

>

For males : TESTOSTERONE

But I don't expect many people to believe me.

[Guest guest]

We don't know yet.

It would be MDMA, but you can't take MDMA every day. You should not

even take nutmeg every day.

What I've been trying to explain is that a lot of the drugs that would

make pssd better actually make it worse. For instance, cannibis

stimulates 5ht1a receptors, but downregulates them over time.

The closest thing at the moment is probably viagra.

>

[Guest guest]

What are the specific risks of taking a teaspoon of nutmeg every day

for ten years? And what is the scientific source of that information?

You should not even take nutmeg every day.

[Guest guest]

As I keep saying 5ht agaonists work in a similar way to ssris.

Therefore in the long term, it may make pssd worse.

It would be safer to take cannibis every day than to take nutmeg, and

also a bit more reliable. I don't know what the effect of taking nutmeg

every day for 10 years would be, because nobody has ever tried.

[Guest guest]

> >

> > which medicine do you think is the next best thing to cure?????

> >

> For males : TESTOSTERONE

>

> But I don't expect many people to believe me.

>

[Guest guest]

I dont know what GNC is.

The important thing is that more people try to learn more about ssri's.

I expect testosterone is important since the 5ht1a and 2a receptors are

important for testosterone control. However, most people I have spoken

to have a really poor understanding of the serotonin receptors and

antidepressants in general.

If you wanted a tip on what to try next, I would recommend wormwood.

[Guest guest]

>

> I don't know what GNC is.

GNC = General Nutrition Center ( I was being sarcastic )

> > The important thing is that more people try to learn more about

ssri's.

> I expect testosterone is important since the 5ht1a and 2a receptors

are

> important for testosterone control.

You are indeed correct, it is important. Having dealt with pssd since

1994 I can vouch for the fact that testosterone is the ONLY thing

that has offered any SUSTAINABLE relief.

However, most people I have spoken

> to have a really poor understanding of the serotonin receptors and

> antidepressants in general.

>

> If you wanted a tip on what to try next, I would recommend wormwood.

>

[Guest guest]

What about people who don't have low testosterone? duh.

You've dealt with it since 1994, but you've failled to notice tat

many people with pssd don't have low T levels.

We've been finding drugs recently that may improve pssd for people

who don't have low T levels. This is a big step because most things

like muccuna puriens, dostinex, and burpropion had little effect. If

we can build upon these findings we can probaby come up with better

long term results in the future.

WHAT YOU SEEM TO BE SAYING IS THAT PSSD IS SYNONOMOUS WITH LOW T

LEVELS, AND THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER NEUROLOGICAL CAUSES, WHICH IS

PATENTLY UNTRUE. NEXT TIME YOU COME MAKING A WISE CRACK, TRY BACKING

IT UP.

[Guest guest]

Now the thing that has arounsed curiousity in me is if the testosterone

level in us was low to begin with, that is prior to an SSRI or if the

poison brought on the lower T levels. Since no " doctor " has bothered to

test a male for T prior to subjection to SSRIs there is no way to tell.

I'm wondering if one of these pharma companies that hawks these poisons

has bothered to test hormone levels in laboratory animals before and

after subjection to these miracle drugs/antidepressants?

I myslef took a tremendous step back last month. I was on Prozac for

many years(in excess of 15) and had lost sexual function almost

completely, Viagara being my only salvation for 2 years since I had

stopped SSRIs. I hadn't had a morning erection for years Through hard

work including daily workouts and various herbals including tribulous,

and a couple of others plus zinc my function had started to return to a

degree. I had regained some degree of sexual functionality independant

of Viagara. I went in to a doctor because of another unrelated

issue(blood pressure) and I told them that I had been on

anti-depressants at one time, but had an aversion to SSRIs for the

reasons we all know(and I explained it to her). This doctor knew my

family situation and I have been under a great deal of stress. She

suggested trying something else, and so I was put on Cymbalta and

immediately lost all the gains of the last 2 years.I completely lost all

desire and my equipment had drawn up within itself. Stayed on it a week

and a half. She said " oh, its not an SSRI " , and now I know its an SSRI

plus something else.

Bill

pssd24 wrote:

> What about people who don't have low testosterone? duh.

>

> You've dealt with it since 1994, but you've failled to notice tat

> many people with pssd don't have low T levels.

>

> We've been finding drugs recently that may improve pssd for people

> who don't have low T levels. This is a big step because most things

> like muccuna puriens, dostinex, and burpropion had little effect. If

> we can build upon these findings we can probaby come up with better

> long term results in the future.

>

> WHAT YOU SEEM TO BE SAYING IS THAT PSSD IS SYNONOMOUS WITH LOW T

> LEVELS, AND THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER NEUROLOGICAL CAUSES, WHICH IS

> PATENTLY UNTRUE. NEXT TIME YOU COME MAKING A WISE CRACK, TRY BACKING

> IT UP.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

True. I'm a prime example of someone who's tried testosterone with

little or no effect. I've tried HCG, Clomid, and Androgel. Something

else is wrong here. Cialis actually works better than T for me...

Luther

>

> What about people who don't have low testosterone? duh.

>

>

> You've dealt with it since 1994, but you've failled to notice tat

> many people with pssd don't have low T levels.

>

> We've been finding drugs recently that may improve pssd for people

> who don't have low T levels. This is a big step because most things

> like muccuna puriens, dostinex, and burpropion had little effect.

If

> we can build upon these findings we can probaby come up with better

> long term results in the future.

>

> WHAT YOU SEEM TO BE SAYING IS THAT PSSD IS SYNONOMOUS WITH LOW T

> LEVELS, AND THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER NEUROLOGICAL CAUSES, WHICH IS

> PATENTLY UNTRUE. NEXT TIME YOU COME MAKING A WISE CRACK, TRY

BACKING

> IT UP.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> What about people who don't have low testosterone? duh.

>

>

> You've dealt with it since 1994, but you've failled to notice tat

> many people with pssd don't have low T levels.

>

I haven't failed to notice anything. I am sure there are people here

without low T. I am also sure from the posts I've read on here that

a greater number of people have been told their T is normal because

it falls into the bottom of an outdated, inaccurate range. Mine was

actually normal. Others on here have tried T replacement and failed

because they gave up much too easy. It does take some time to sort

out.

> We've been finding drugs recently that may improve pssd for people

> who don't have low T levels. This is a big step because most

things

> like muccuna puriens, dostinex, and burpropion had little effect.

If

> we can build upon these findings we can probaby come up with

better

> long term results in the future.

>

> WHAT YOU SEEM TO BE SAYING IS THAT PSSD IS SYNONOMOUS WITH LOW T

> LEVELS, AND THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER NEUROLOGICAL CAUSES, WHICH IS

> PATENTLY UNTRUE.

I'll thank you not to speak for me, for sure this is a COMPLEX

problem. While it probably won't work for everyone I have to believe

a lot of folks could benefit if T replacement was administered

properly.

NEXT TIME YOU COME MAKING A WISE CRACK, TRY BACKING

> IT UP.

>

Irritability is a sure sign of low T and high estrogen.

I can maintain an erection and experience great orgasms, before you

start shouting again make sure YOU can do that, else you really don't

have anything to back up.

[Guest guest]

Because many doctors are not informed about PSSD, it is IMO important

that patients themselves study these subjects. All the best.

I was put on Cymbalta and

> immediately lost all the gains of the last 2 years.I completely lost

all

> desire and my equipment had drawn up within itself. Stayed on it a week

> and a half. She said " oh, its not an SSRI " , and now I know its an SSRI

> plus something else.

> Bill

>