Re: French article on PSSD !!!

[Guest guest]

I also noticed that a very substantial Spanish article has been written.

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_SSRI_Sexual_Dysfunction

and the German Wikipedia mentions PSSD in one of its articles.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSRI_Discontinuation_Syndrome#Langzeitsymptome

[Guest guest]

It would be nice if the English PSSD article on Wikipedia would refer

to the PSSD articles in Spanish and French. That would make a more

serious impression.

> I also noticed that a very substantial Spanish article has been written.

[Guest guest]

Huh? What do you mean? It seems to me that the French and Spanish

articles are just translations of the one I wrote in English.

Vornan

> > I also noticed that a very substantial Spanish article has been

written.

>

[Guest guest]

I appreciate you have written that excellent and extensive English

Wiki article on PSSD. I suggested to add weblinks in this Eglish Wiki

article to the French and Spanish translations of it.

>

It seems to me that the French and Spanish

> articles are just translations of the one I wrote in English.

[Guest guest]

If i understand you correctly you are asking for someone to add

interwiki links to all the articles so they are linked together. The

french article for an example doesn't have interwiki links and the

English one doesn't link to the French one. It's easy to do, i'm a

little bit busy now but i'll do it today.

[Guest guest]

Would be great. Those links are very important to help prevent the

Wiki articles from deletion by opponent editors.

> If i understand you correctly you are asking for someone to add

> interwiki links to all the articles so they are linked together. The

> french article for an example doesn't have interwiki links and the

> English one doesn't link to the French one. It's easy to do, i'm a

> little bit busy now but i'll do it today.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for adding those links Anonymous777, but the Spanish and French

Wikipedia articles on PSSD have both been recently removed by someone.

That's bad news.

> If i understand you correctly you are asking for someone to add

> interwiki links to all the articles so they are linked together.

>

[Guest guest]

That is not entirely true. The French article is still up there.

Sometimes when i check out the English PSSD article the French link

isn't there. If it happens to you just check out some of the other

language articles and the link will be there and reappear on the

English site. The Spanish article on the other hand is gone which is

bad news because it was a long article and Spanish is spoken by about

500 million people. I don't know Spanish so i really can't argue why

they should keep the article but i hope it will be back up sometime.

In other news there is a German site (vielen dank) which is great

news. Together i think they have over 500 million speakers and are

dominant languages in the EU.

[Guest guest]

With this translation software (click on the link) the English PSSD

article can be more or less translated into many other languages and

can then be posted in the Wikipedia of those languages. The grammar of

such a translated text can subsequently be corrected by native editors

of that country.

http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en

> Together i think they have over 500 million speakers and are

> dominant languages in the EU.

[Guest guest]

I do not think that is a good idea. Translations by computer programs

often come out very untrustworthy and flat out silly. Wikipedia

editors are more likely to delete them than to keep them and if word

spreads around wikipedia that we are using machine translations to get

the article into all the other language wikipedias, wikipedia as a

whole is more likely to delete all the articles simply as spam.

Wikipedia is community driven and thus the PSSD articles on the other

language are bound to subjected to the same criticism as the English

language Wikipedia if no one who speaks the language is willing to

defend it, it migh get deleted. We first and foremost must maintain

our credibility. The reason why the English language edition is up

there is because Vornan is highly educated in this field and is able

to make a case for the article and write it well. It is well written,

it cites many reliable sources and whenever someone attacks it he is

able to defend it. Anyone who would delete it would be censoring

wikipedia and that is strictly against wikipedia policies and

everything that wikipedia stands for. On the other hand badly written

articles can be thrown away without debate and therefore i think we

should leave it up to people who know these languages to write

articles in their own language.

Ps. We already have articles in very dominant european languages. Many

Europeans are bilingual i think other language versions will pop up

very soon.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your opninion. I see what you mean. But a computer

generated translation can support ones own rudimental knowledge of a

foreign language. For example a Vietnamese person can make a very

simple short Korean text about PSSD with help of the Google translator.

Maybe this method works effectively if only a simple definition is

posted on Wikipedia, which can be elaborated by others.

Another possibility is that people post a short summary of the PSSD

article in their own language on this webforum. Three sentences

defining the term PSSD can be enough. Other members of this forum can

subsequently post that text on Wikipedia in that language if the

translator does not want to or cannot do so. At least one could

experiment carefully with that method on Wikipedia in one or two

foreign languages. If then a few Wikipedia articles would be being

deleted for poor grammar, not all the PSSD articles will be deleted IMO.

Wikipedia is very popular and very influential in many countries and

is often read by patients as wel as scientists and journalists.

>

> I do not think that is a good idea. Translations by computer programs

> often come out very untrustworthy and flat out silly. Wikipedia

> editors are more likely to delete them than to keep them and if word

> spreads around wikipedia that we are using machine translations to get

> the article into all the other language wikipedias, wikipedia as a

> whole is more likely to delete all the articles simply as spam.

[Guest guest]

It is also easy to ask on a specialised webforum for a translation of

a short text. For example on an English webforum about China will

probably be members who speak China as well as English. Or one can

visit a foreigners' cafe or refugees shelter in a city to ask for a

short translation to a foreign language. This translator should have

some further education though.

I think it is most effective if the Wikipedia article is now first

posted in the most important remaining languages. That are IMO

Russian, Mandarin Chinese, Modern Standard Arabic, Japanese, Bengali,

Farsi, Hindi and Urdu.

I suspect that in Japan many people will use SSRI's and have enough

education to study PSSD on the internet.

Great advantage of Wikipedia is that the articles draw attention from

people that are specifically interested in orgasm problems. That is

possible if a link to the PSSD article is added in a Wikipedia article

about orgasm problems or sexual problems in general.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_language

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>something like that has already happened.