Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 <I also touch the mom on her arm wiht the touch that is used so she understands how gentle itis.> I'm not as comfortable telling people how gentle it is any more. My daughter remembers her CST, done when she was quite young, and maintains that it hurt. Now whether that was pain from her chronically infected/fluid filled ears, I can't say. I would say that it's gentle and that it feels good; maybe that's because I have the capacity to frame it better than a toddler could. Wagner- Roseville, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 The touch itself is actually quite gentle. But the body experiences the trauma that is being released in many ways. Often, I feel that the CST practitioner who works on me has her fingernails dug in, yet she says that she doesn't. She has worked on me for over 10 years, since I need regular CST (and two other types of bodywork) to keep the ravages of post-concussion syndrome at bay. I do trust her completely, yet still wondered if she was really telling me the truth about those fingernails! Anyway, I often serve as a "third hand" for her because my body just knows what needs to be done and often one of my hands will place itself where extra touch is needed. But one day, I placed my own fingers on a spot, and I absolutely knew that I wasn't pressing hard at all, yet I felt that "digging-in-fingernails" feeling! So, yes, the practitioner's touch is quite gentle. But the body can feel the pain of the old trauma that is releasing in a variety of ways. And sometimes my arm or my leg will move in a way that is quite painful even though she isn't touching me there at all! Dee Kassing<I also touch the mom on her arm wiht the touch that is used so she understands how gentle it is.> I'm not as comfortable telling people how gentle it is any more. My daughter remembers her CST, done when she was quite young, and maintains that it hurt. Now whether that was pain from her chronically infected/fluid filled ears, I can't say. I would say that it's gentle and that it feels good; maybe that's because I have the capacity to frame it better than a toddler could. Wagner- Roseville, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 What this practitioner did is not CST. We talked about this case during my CST training. So terrible... I would not send a baby to someone I don't know or am not completely comfortable with. I wouldn't send a tongue tied baby to just anyone either... It is essential that we get to know our local practitioners! Healy Seattle, WA > I must admit that I too feel more than a little conflicted over CST. > > Sometime back I was researching the practice and came across this article about what happened after a certified CST practitioner worked on a baby:> > http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/infant-dies-after-craniosacral-therapy/ > (don't read it if you're not in the mood to cry, which is what I did after reading it)> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I just looked at this. horrible. who in their right mind would put a baby in that position and do what this person did!?? definitely not anything remotely close to CST. it pisses me off when people say they're something they're not, than the real professionals have to bear the burden...yuck. Beebe, M.Ed., IBCLC Lactation Consultant/Postpartum Doula www.second9months.comBreastfeeding Between the Lines: http://second9months.wordpress.com/--- Subject: Re: CSTTo: Date: Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 5:29 PM What this practitioner did is not CST. We talked about this case during my CST training. So terrible... I would not send a baby to someone I don't know or am not completely comfortable with. I wouldn't send a tongue tied baby to just anyone either... It is essential that we get to know our local practitioners! Healy Seattle, WA > I must admit that I too feel more than a little conflicted over CST. > > Sometime back I was researching the practice and came across this article about what happened after a certified CST practitioner worked on a baby:> > http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/infant-dies-after-craniosacral-therapy/ > (don't read it if you're not in the mood to cry, which is what I did after reading it)> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I agree, that this is certainly not CST. I know and trust the two practitioners that I refer to (one of them I see personally for CST for my migraines), and there is no “manipulation”, just gentle pressure. This reminds of those people who call themselves “Lactation Consultants “ but are not IBCLCs and give moms terrible breastfeeding advice. It really does hurt the whole profession. Thank you to everyone who has replied. Dee’s article is wonderful, and I do refer to it, along with a couple of others. I guess what I’m really looking for is a way to describe to parents what CST is, what it does, how it works etc., because that is what the parents are looking for. I see great results from CST, but sometimes parents are hesitant and I worry that perhaps sometimes it’s because it’s so hard to explain what it is! Warmly,Fleur From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: June-21-11 8:12 PMTo: Subject: CST I must admit that I too feel more than a little conflicted over CST.Sometime back I was researching the practice and came across this article about what happened after a certified CST practitioner worked on a baby:http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/infant-dies-after-craniosacral-therapy/(don't read it if you're not in the mood to cry, which is what I did after reading it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I read every single response to that blog post. As I understand it, the practitioner was indeed a CST. As I see it, it is more accurately compared like someone who IS an IBCLC, passed the exam and become certified but sucks at it. Just as happens in every health care profession. As I see it, the issues are thus: 1. Every profession has people who are incompetent. 2. The CST folks who initially responded were idiots for claiming no causation had been proved. They look pathetic and desperate and untrustworthy. 3. The bloggers have an axe to grind with holistic practices in general (referring to everything not allopathic as quackery) 4. The allopaths are blind to the complete fallacy of evidence-based medicine, given the fraud that drives the publication of almost all research. 5. Know your practitioner!! When I teach the Holistic practices workshop, I spend and entire section on building a team. You need to learn about the practice before you recommend it. Tow, IBCLC, France > > I agree, that this is certainly not CST. I know and trust the two > practitioners that I refer to (one of them I see personally for CST for my > migraines), and there is no " manipulation " , just gentle pressure. This > reminds of those people who call themselves " Lactation Consultants " but are > not IBCLCs and give moms terrible breastfeeding advice. It really does hurt > the whole profession. > > > > Thank you to everyone who has replied. Dee's article is wonderful, and I do > refer to it, along with a couple of others. I guess what I'm really looking > for is a way to describe to parents what CST is, what it does, how it works > etc., because that is what the parents are looking for. I see great results > from CST, but sometimes parents are hesitant and I worry that perhaps > sometimes it's because it's so hard to explain what it is! > > > > Warmly, > > Fleur > > > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf > Of > Sent: June-21-11 8:12 PM > To: > Subject: CST > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 , The therapy IS gentle. But, when my kids were little and they had a wound, for example, they would often scream before I ever touched them to was it out or apply medicine. Because the wound hurt--not bc my touch was harsh. I am pretty sure they were more likely to remember the pain of the wound afterwards, not my gentle touch. That the work itself is gentle is not untrue bc someone is in a traumatized place due to their own pain or fear. Tow, IBCLC, France > > <I also touch the mom on her arm wiht the touch that is used so she > understands how gentle itis.> > > I'm not as comfortable telling people how gentle it is any more. My > daughter remembers her CST, done when she was quite young, and maintains > that it hurt. Now whether that was pain from her chronically infected/fluid > filled ears, I can't say. I would say that it's gentle and that it feels > good; maybe that's because I have the capacity to frame it better than a > toddler could. > > > Wagner- > Roseville, CA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 , the most important words in that article are "so-called". The "so-called" craniosacral therapist wasn't really one and didn't know what the heck he or she was doing. There is never deep bending of the neck in CST, not on babies and not on adults. Dee Kassing I must admit that I too feel more than a little conflicted over CST.Sometime back I was researching the practice and came across this article about what happened after a certified CST practitioner worked on a baby:http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/infant-dies-after-craniosacral-therapy/(don't read it if you're not in the mood to cry, which is what I did after reading it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 ,I totally agree with you on every point. The first thing I did when I started working in a hosp. was build my team. Then as private practice I built my team. I tell moms all the time I can not do this alone. I also tell them I do not and I mean I do not recommend anyone unless I trust them with my life and my granpeanuts lives.My CST started working on Claira at 2 hours of age. I adore her and she is good.It is articles like this that drive me mad. Parents will read this and then not go to anyone for help but a PT who usually does nothing. Oh this makes me mad.I saw a baby today... 3 mon. old. Severe head molding, flat head, cone head, bulging on he top right. Baby lies in a crescent shape, head in extension leaning to his left, when prone the left arm straight to his side rotated out. Forehead pushed back. Plus a posterior tongue tie with a tight maxillary. could there be anything else wrong. and this mom had paid 3 LC's before me to help her and each LC said they could not figure out why this baby would not breastfeed. OMG grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr time to call it a day... one frustrated LCShari Silady I read every single response to that blog post. As I understand it, the practitioner was indeed a CST. As I see it, it is more accurately compared like someone who IS an IBCLC, passed the exam and become certified but sucks at it. Just as happens in every health care profession. As I see it, the issues are thus: 1. Every profession has people who are incompetent. 2. The CST folks who initially responded were idiots for claiming no causation had been proved. They look pathetic and desperate and untrustworthy. 3. The bloggers have an axe to grind with holistic practices in general (referring to everything not allopathic as quackery) 4. The allopaths are blind to the complete fallacy of evidence-based medicine, given the fraud that drives the publication of almost all research. 5. Know your practitioner!! When I teach the Holistic practices workshop, I spend and entire section on building a team. You need to learn about the practice before you recommend it. Tow, IBCLC, France > > I agree, that this is certainly not CST. I know and trust the two > practitioners that I refer to (one of them I see personally for CST for my > migraines), and there is no " manipulation " , just gentle pressure. This > reminds of those people who call themselves " Lactation Consultants " but are > not IBCLCs and give moms terrible breastfeeding advice. It really does hurt > the whole profession. > > > > Thank you to everyone who has replied. Dee's article is wonderful, and I do > refer to it, along with a couple of others. I guess what I'm really looking > for is a way to describe to parents what CST is, what it does, how it works > etc., because that is what the parents are looking for. I see great results > from CST, but sometimes parents are hesitant and I worry that perhaps > sometimes it's because it's so hard to explain what it is! > > > > Warmly, > > Fleur > > > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf > Of > Sent: June-21-11 8:12 PM > To: > Subject: CST > > > > -- ~~~~~~~~~~ Shari Silady ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ " Mothers have as powerful an influence over the welfare of future generations as all other earthly causes combined. " ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 OK, Fleur, here's what I tell parents: Craniosacral therapy is a type of bodywork that is very gentle. Any bodyworker can choose to learn it. Chiropractors can learn it, but it is not "twist-pop". Massage therapists can learn it, but it is not "rubbing". Physical therapists can learn it, but it is not "stretch the muscle until the baby screams in pain, so that he can eventually turn his head far enough". Instead, the practitioner lays his hands or his fingers on the baby and leaves them in place for a while. There is no more pressure than what a nickel lying on your hand has (and here I demonstrate the proper pressure, and tell them that I took the first four-day class so I can explain it and demonstrate, but I'm not qualified to work on a soul!). Those who do it know exactly where to place their hands or fingers, and then the body's own energy moves things around so they get back into correct position. I have seen babies who have terribly misshapen heads from birth trauma. Yet it isn't safe to just shove on the bones to get them to move to where they ought to be. But in craniosacral therapy, the body's own energy moves those bones and changes those misshapen heads to beautiful normal heads, and no one shoved on the baby's head. The above paragraph is what I tell parents, and it usually satisfies them. (Just as in the rest of life, nothing works for everybody!) Dee Kassing Subject: RE: CSTTo: Date: Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 8:30 PM I agree, that this is certainly not CST. I know and trust the two practitioners that I refer to (one of them I see personally for CST for my migraines), and there is no “manipulationâ€, just gentle pressure. This reminds of those people who call themselves “Lactation Consultants “ but are not IBCLCs and give moms terrible breastfeeding advice. It really does hurt the whole profession. Thank you to everyone who has replied. Dee’s article is wonderful, and I do refer to it, along with a couple of others. I guess what I’m really looking for is a way to describe to parents what CST is, what it does, how it works etc., because that is what the parents are looking for. I see great results from CST, but sometimes parents are hesitant and I worry that perhaps sometimes it’s because it’s so hard to explain what it is! Warmly, Fleur From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: June-21-11 8:12 PMTo: Subject: CST I must admit that I too feel more than a little conflicted over CST.Sometime back I was researching the practice and came across this article about what happened after a certified CST practitioner worked on a baby:http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/infant-dies-after-craniosacral-therapy/(don't read it if you're not in the mood to cry, which is what I did after reading it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I think one of the most important thing is to know that your CST has the right qualifications. Not every CST is qualified and finished the right courses to work on babies. I am not sure if the differences are similar between an IBCLC and a person who finished some kind of lactation course and calling themselves an LC, but I do know it makes a difference.I learned this when our usual CST had to go away for couple of months. I came a cross another lady which excited me very much as she was advertising herself as "specialising infant feeding problems since 1998" I send a mom to her -and luckily I went with them- to find her methods were quite different then our usual practitioner. Somewhat not-respectful for the baby's oral cavity, letting the baby cry not explaining what she was doing, etc.Anyway, when I came home did my homework little further and found out she was actually never took any pediatric courses. (apparently it should be 7 altogether) Needlessly to say I have never referred anyone to her.I am sure there are real healers and people who know what they are doing without the piece of paper out there. But if this is your 2 days old baby, I am sure you would only want the best for him/her, too.My penny worth :)Kindly,AnnAnn Faust, MBChB, BA (Hons), IBCLC, RLC BABY AND ME LACTATION SERVICES LLC www.BabyAndMeLC.com Facebook: Baby And Me Lactation Services phone: This information is for general informational purposes only and is not intended to provide specific authority, advice or recommendations. Where you deem necessary, we suggest that you seek advice regarding your particular situation from the appropriate professional. The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the named addressee. Access, copying or re-use of the e-mail or any information contained therein by any other person is not authorized. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately by returning the e-mail to the originator. This e-mail transmission and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it, are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, copying, dissemination, distribution or use of any of the information contained in, or attached to this e-mail transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify Baby and Me Lactation Services, LLC by telephone at (240)893-3808 and then delete the message and its attachments from your computer. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 In my area I have seen the results of the few CST practitioners here and I am not impressed – at all. For babies who have minimal issues – they do ok. For babies who have complicated issues they are nearly worthless. They charge an exorbitant amount of money and get very little release. Babies who are going to have any results at all would require weekly – bi-weekly treatment just to even consider getting better. I don’t get it. I hear about CST practitioners elsewhere getting these great results…I just have yet to see it here. The ones here just simply miss the bigger picture. And it pisses me off. The gal I send my babies to (Judy Terwilliger) is a Bowen practitioner as well as an RN – worked Peds for 25-30 yrs. She works on special needs babies – down syndrome, cerebral palsy, spina bifida, multiple dysfunctions – and has phenomenal results – EVERY time…without fail. I have yet to see a baby (whose parents stick with treatment) NOT get better and go on to breastfeed well and have their body function at 100%. And she doesn’t charge an arm and a leg, nor does she keep them coming week after week so she can make a buck. My biggest problem is that we need more of her. She will be teaching a Pediatric Bowen Training this October. I will be taking that class. I already do basic Bowen. However, there are a couple other Bowen people doing ‘Baby Bowen” (so far removed from what Judy does it isn’t even funny). They don’t charge – and they don’t get results. Just like the CST people here who are regularly referred to by others, the results are minimal at best, and unhelpful at worst – and it give ALL the practioner’s a bad name and the parents become distrustful. On more than ten occasions I have been outright blunt and told parents that the person they saw clearly didn’t do much for their child, and it makes me angry that they are out there touting how great they are, charging all that money…and 8 wks later baby still has an issue. I nearly beg them to try Judy – I give them other parents to call. They are skeptical as hell – and I don’t blame them. Many do give it a shot…and are very pleasantly surprised to have their child’s issues resolve. My point here is that Fleur is so right on the money: Those who are good need to be found and utilized. Those who are not good need to (in my opinion) either get more training or just go away. I am tired of the bad name the crappy ones give the others. It’s bad enough I have to explain to a pissed off parent why the other 4 LC’s missed this or that (like an obvious tongue-tie)…having to explain the body work stuff??? ugh. For me it all goes back to consistency of care and education…guess I am living in a dream world if I think that will ever happen… Just my ramblings on the subject and up far too early today…sigh. Warmly Jaye Jaye Simpson, IBCLC, CIIM Breastfeeding Network Sacramento, CA www.breastfeedingnetwork.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Ok, this is a great point you bring up, which begs the question - Jane Doe has a background as a healthcare professional and works with babies a lot, where does Jane Doe go to become a Certified Infant Cranio-Sacral Therapist? I have yet to find the Certifying body for Infant Cranio-Sacral Therapists -and I have looked. If no certifying body exists, I'd have a pretty tough time expecting my clients to trust a practitioner -even if they have a lot of experience, if they are not specifically trained and certified to to bodywork on newborn babies. Even regular Cranio-Sacral therapists are not certified as I know (correct me if I'm wrong), they just attend training workshops or go to Upledger Institute or other college and can receive 0-2 yrs training, but no actual certifying body certifies or regulates them, unless they live in England where there is a certifying body (which the practitioner involved in the incident where the baby died was certified by, apparantly). Also, what qualifies as a manipulation? and how far to take this? I understand that there must be some great CST bodyworkers working on infants out there, but I also feel that it is very tricky business when it comes to referring as an IBCLC. I like that Ann said she goes with the parents to the therapist. I think that until a certifying body exists, this is important - as long as the IBCLC her/himself also has an understanding of which movements are safe/unsafe for a baby (which opens a whole other can of beans... but I totally understand why parents are skeptical of CST therapists, and I actually think it's a good sign that they care for their baby enough not to just trust anyone to do whatever to their precious baby. Yet still some babies need bodywork so we must refer, but refer with great care... > > I think one of the most important thing is to know that your CST has the > right qualifications. Not every CST is qualified and finished the right > courses to work on babies. I am not sure if the differences are similar > between an IBCLC and a person who finished some kind of lactation course > and calling themselves an LC, but I do know it makes a difference. > > I learned this when our usual CST had to go away for couple of months. I > came a cross another lady which excited me very much as she was > advertising herself as " specialising infant feeding problems since 1998 " > I send a mom to her -and luckily I went with them- to find her methods > were quite different then our usual practitioner. Somewhat > not-respectful for the baby's oral cavity, letting the baby cry not > explaining what she was doing, etc. > > Anyway, when I came home did my homework little further and found out > she was actually never took any pediatric courses. (apparently it should > be 7 altogether) > Needlessly to say I have never referred anyone to her. > > I am sure there are real healers and people who know what they are doing > without the piece of paper out there. But if this is your 2 days old > baby, I am sure you would only want the best for him/her, too. > > My penny worth > > Kindly, > Ann > > > Ann Faust, MBChB, BA (Hons), IBCLC, RLC > > BABY AND ME LACTATION SERVICES LLC > www.BabyAndMeLC.com <http://www.babyandmelc.com/> > Facebook: Baby And Me Lactation Services > phone: > > > > > This information is for general informational purposes only and is not > intended to provide specific authority, advice or recommendations. Where > you deem necessary, we suggest that you seek advice regarding your > particular situation from the appropriate professional. > > > The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and is > intended solely for the use of the named addressee. Access, copying or > re-use of the e-mail or any information contained therein by any other > person is not authorized. If you are not the intended recipient please > notify us immediately by returning the e-mail to the originator. > This e-mail transmission and any documents, files or previous e-mail > messages attached to it, are confidential. If you are not the intended > recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, copying, > dissemination, distribution or use of any of the information contained > in, or attached to this e-mail transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If > you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify > Baby and Me Lactation Services, LLC by telephone at (240)893-3808 and > then delete the message and its attachments from your computer. Thank > you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 look at the Upledger Institute.. Ok, this is a great point you bring up, which begs the question - Jane Doe has a background as a healthcare professional and works with babies a lot, where does Jane Doe go to become a Certified Infant Cranio-Sacral Therapist? I have yet to find the Certifying body for Infant Cranio-Sacral Therapists -and I have looked. If no certifying body exists, I'd have a pretty tough time expecting my clients to trust a practitioner -even if they have a lot of experience, if they are not specifically trained and certified to to bodywork on newborn babies. Even regular Cranio-Sacral therapists are not certified as I know (correct me if I'm wrong), they just attend training workshops or go to Upledger Institute or other college and can receive 0-2 yrs training, but no actual certifying body certifies or regulates them, unless they live in England where there is a certifying body (which the practitioner involved in the incident where the baby died was certified by, apparantly). Also, what qualifies as a manipulation? and how far to take this? I understand that there must be some great CST bodyworkers working on infants out there, but I also feel that it is very tricky business when it comes to referring as an IBCLC. I like that Ann said she goes with the parents to the therapist. I think that until a certifying body exists, this is important - as long as the IBCLC her/himself also has an understanding of which movements are safe/unsafe for a baby (which opens a whole other can of beans... but I totally understand why parents are skeptical of CST therapists, and I actually think it's a good sign that they care for their baby enough not to just trust anyone to do whatever to their precious baby. Yet still some babies need bodywork so we must refer, but refer with great care... > > I think one of the most important thing is to know that your CST has the > right qualifications. Not every CST is qualified and finished the right > courses to work on babies. I am not sure if the differences are similar > between an IBCLC and a person who finished some kind of lactation course > and calling themselves an LC, but I do know it makes a difference. > > I learned this when our usual CST had to go away for couple of months. I > came a cross another lady which excited me very much as she was > advertising herself as " specialising infant feeding problems since 1998 " > I send a mom to her -and luckily I went with them- to find her methods > were quite different then our usual practitioner. Somewhat > not-respectful for the baby's oral cavity, letting the baby cry not > explaining what she was doing, etc. > > Anyway, when I came home did my homework little further and found out > she was actually never took any pediatric courses. (apparently it should > be 7 altogether) > Needlessly to say I have never referred anyone to her. > > I am sure there are real healers and people who know what they are doing > without the piece of paper out there. But if this is your 2 days old > baby, I am sure you would only want the best for him/her, too. > > My penny worth > > Kindly, > Ann > > > Ann Faust, MBChB, BA (Hons), IBCLC, RLC > > BABY AND ME LACTATION SERVICES LLC > www.BabyAndMeLC.com <http://www.babyandmelc.com/> > Facebook: Baby And Me Lactation Services > phone: > > > > > This information is for general informational purposes only and is not > intended to provide specific authority, advice or recommendations. Where > you deem necessary, we suggest that you seek advice regarding your > particular situation from the appropriate professional. > > > The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and is > intended solely for the use of the named addressee. Access, copying or > re-use of the e-mail or any information contained therein by any other > person is not authorized. If you are not the intended recipient please > notify us immediately by returning the e-mail to the originator. > This e-mail transmission and any documents, files or previous e-mail > messages attached to it, are confidential. If you are not the intended > recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, copying, > dissemination, distribution or use of any of the information contained > in, or attached to this e-mail transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If > you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify > Baby and Me Lactation Services, LLC by telephone at (240)893-3808 and > then delete the message and its attachments from your computer. Thank > you. > -- ~~~~~~~~~~ Shari Silady ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ " Mothers have as powerful an influence over the welfare of future generations as all other earthly causes combined. " ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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