We need a summary of PSSD information and money

[Guest guest]

We want to convince the world that PSSD is a major problem to

possibly a million people worldwide or even more. And that many

popular and very widely used psycho medications pose an imminent

health threat to a number of its users.

We have to convince relevant scientists, relevant national

politicians who are specialized in health care, high officers in

organizations of medication approval and relevant pharmaceutical

companies. A number of them probably already reads this group, which

would be great. We can adress them in this forum although we don't

exactly know which nicknames they have chosen.

Because of this I think it is important that we keep trying to make

the texts on this forum well thought and of 'high quality'. Although

many of us probably learned English only in high school.

So we need to inform scientists, relevant politicians and high rank

health officials in many countries, and the top management of the

relevant pharma companies. But these people are often extremely busy

and probably have no time to read much of this extensive support

group so they can't judge if PSSD is a serious problem. And of course

they have to care for their personal scientific reputation. So they

mostly won't react if they hear from this support group. And they are

possibly unwilling to register for this support group.

I guess these people have only one hour to decide if this 'PSSD-

stuff' is relevant to them or not. And if they think it important

enough to take action, they have probably in total maximum hundred

working hours to do so, including debate with other experts. Because

there are so many other very important problems they have to deal

with.

So I think it is nessecary that a very clear and well organized and

structured summary is made from the information on this forum. This

summary should be publicized prominently on a weblog or webforum that

anybody can read without registration. This summary could be about

ten to twenty pages text with an extensive list of specified weblinks

to more information on PSSD.

Anybody on this forum can choose to write a part of this summary

about a specific selected partial subject in relation to PSSD. For

example:

- What can we calculate statistically about the patient group from

this support group, based on their writings?

- How many members have send a post in the last two years?

- How many different members of this group have ever written to

suppose that they or their relative are a PSSD victim? Which psycho

medications were used in these cases and which of those drugs do they

suspect to be the cause of their PSSD?

- What are our theories about the specific biological causes of PSSD?

- What are possible solutions?

- Which alternative remedies have an effect? Etc.

- But most importantly, what are the specific data and arguments to

suppose that the sexual symptoms are the cause of the used psycho

drugs? That will be the main focus of scientists and officials to

decide for research funding and scientifical publication of PSSD.

If twenty persons would each write one page about one partial subject

of PSSD, we have a summary of twenty pages in total. And this summary

should not be perfect! Let's start with a very preliminary summary

without even consulting the texts on this forum. This preliminary

summary can later be improved by others. Sort of like the Wikipedia

system. We could even use special wiki-software for that.

Anyway, allocation of tasks among members of this PSSD forum seems

important to me. Just like in any succesful political or commercial

organization, like a pharma company.

And the PSSD group also needs some money I guess. It would be great

if we could even hire a scientific professional, which is extremely

expensive. How can we raise money for the PSSD movement? For example,

members of this forum can make a financial transaction via their bank

to the moderators of this forum, if we know a bank account number.

They have done a lot of very important work. Such a financial

transaction can de done amonymously by a cash deposit in a bank

office. I am not involved in the organization of this forum, so I

have no personal interest in this suggestion. And I personally don't

know the person(s) people behind this forum. But I think they do very

important work.

[Guest guest]

" But most importantly, what are the specific data and arguments to

suppose that the sexual symptoms are the cause of the used psycho

drugs? "

I made a mistake here. This sentence should be of course:

" But most importantly, what are the specific data and arguments to

suppose that the sexual symptoms are the RESULT of the used psycho

drugs? "

[Guest guest]

i think what you are saying is rite and i mostly agree with you, but

there is no way pharmaceutical companies are ever going to spend

money on researching something that they are going to end up liable

for!

and the governments WILL! turn a blind eye to all of this, because

they make billions from these pharmaceuticals.

its my guess that ssris were designed to have sexual side efects so

as to subject people that have taken them into needing other

medications for sustainted if not indefinite amounts of time.

IT JUST MAKES GOOD BUISNESS SENCE TO DO THIS!

they are exploiting an area of biology that is the least know about

so as to make billions before anyone ever has any proof of what they

are doing.

the governments we all supposedly elect care more about there world

power status! and there gdp than there own people!!!

there paranoid about countries like north Korea and Iran gaining

weapons technology that rivals there own and anything that makes them

money and maitains there power is what they stand by above all else!!!

why do you think they went into iraq? they want to buy and use up

everyone else's oil so there own oil reserves are the last left and

demand the greatest price and put them in a position of control...

you find a way of turning pssd into more more money and power for

governments and you will soon find out exactly what mechanisms have

taken place in pssd and a way to resolve it!

>

> We want to convince the world that PSSD is a major problem to

> possibly a million people worldwide or even more. And that many

> popular and very widely used psycho medications pose an imminent

> health threat to a number of its users.

>

> We have to convince relevant scientists, relevant national

> politicians who are specialized in health care, high officers in

> organizations of medication approval and relevant pharmaceutical

> companies. A number of them probably already reads this group,

which

> would be great. We can adress them in this forum although we don't

> exactly know which nicknames they have chosen.

>

> Because of this I think it is important that we keep trying to make

> the texts on this forum well thought and of 'high quality'.

Although

> many of us probably learned English only in high school.

>

> So we need to inform scientists, relevant politicians and high rank

> health officials in many countries, and the top management of the

> relevant pharma companies. But these people are often extremely

busy

> and probably have no time to read much of this extensive support

> group so they can't judge if PSSD is a serious problem. And of

course

> they have to care for their personal scientific reputation. So they

> mostly won't react if they hear from this support group. And they

are

> possibly unwilling to register for this support group.

>

> I guess these people have only one hour to decide if this 'PSSD-

> stuff' is relevant to them or not. And if they think it important

> enough to take action, they have probably in total maximum hundred

> working hours to do so, including debate with other experts.

Because

> there are so many other very important problems they have to deal

> with.

>

> So I think it is nessecary that a very clear and well organized and

> structured summary is made from the information on this forum. This

> summary should be publicized prominently on a weblog or webforum

that

> anybody can read without registration. This summary could be about

> ten to twenty pages text with an extensive list of specified

weblinks

> to more information on PSSD.

>

> Anybody on this forum can choose to write a part of this summary

> about a specific selected partial subject in relation to PSSD. For

> example:

> - What can we calculate statistically about the patient group from

> this support group, based on their writings?

> - How many members have send a post in the last two years?

> - How many different members of this group have ever written to

> suppose that they or their relative are a PSSD victim? Which psycho

> medications were used in these cases and which of those drugs do

they

> suspect to be the cause of their PSSD?

> - What are our theories about the specific biological causes of

PSSD?

> - What are possible solutions?

> - Which alternative remedies have an effect? Etc.

> - But most importantly, what are the specific data and arguments to

> suppose that the sexual symptoms are the cause of the used psycho

> drugs? That will be the main focus of scientists and officials to

> decide for research funding and scientifical publication of PSSD.

>

> If twenty persons would each write one page about one partial

subject

> of PSSD, we have a summary of twenty pages in total. And this

summary

> should not be perfect! Let's start with a very preliminary summary

> without even consulting the texts on this forum. This preliminary

> summary can later be improved by others. Sort of like the Wikipedia

> system. We could even use special wiki-software for that.

>

> Anyway, allocation of tasks among members of this PSSD forum seems

> important to me. Just like in any succesful political or commercial

> organization, like a pharma company.

>

> And the PSSD group also needs some money I guess. It would be great

> if we could even hire a scientific professional, which is extremely

> expensive. How can we raise money for the PSSD movement? For

example,

> members of this forum can make a financial transaction via their

bank

> to the moderators of this forum, if we know a bank account number.

> They have done a lot of very important work. Such a financial

> transaction can de done amonymously by a cash deposit in a bank

> office. I am not involved in the organization of this forum, so I

> have no personal interest in this suggestion. And I personally

don't

> know the person(s) people behind this forum. But I think they do

very

> important work.

>

[Guest guest]

It's good to read something that has been given some serious thought.

Here are a few thoughts that I'd like to add. Hope this helps to work

on finding an effective approach to advance the cause.

>

> " We want to convince the world that PSSD is a major problem to

> possibly a million people worldwide or even more. And that many

> popular and very widely used psycho medications pose an imminent

> health threat to a number of its users. "

Big pharma wrote in their drug information labels that the rate is

about 4%. Later study's have proven that the real number is more like

80%. So the true number is actually in the hundreds of millions.

(80% of 543 million)

> " We have to convince relevant scientists, relevant national

> politicians who are specialized in health care, high officers in

> organizations of medication approval and relevant pharmaceutical

> companies. A number of them probably already reads this group, which

> would be great. We can adress them in this forum although we don't

> exactly know which nicknames they have chosen. "

With the explosion of pharmaceutical chemists working for the big

pharma cartel who are trying to create the next " me too " drugs, they

are always working to make the next Viagra or something better.

Clearly, hiring our own scientist would be prohibitively expensive,

unless one would volunteer, perhaps from personal interest. (i.e. the

scientist has PSSD) The only other option is for the former reason to

make big pharma our friend.

The highest officers of medical approval are mostly owned by big

pharma, a de-facto organized crime ring. The same situation is going

on with the politics. The political officers who are not accepting

money from special interest groups are always stigmatized by the

institution and cast out as wacky folks. What are the chances that the

green party will become the majority leaders anytime soon? zilch.

> " Because of this I think it is important that we keep trying to make

> the texts on this forum well thought and of 'high quality'. Although

> many of us probably learned English only in high school.

>

> So we need to inform scientists, relevant politicians and high rank

> health officials in many countries, and the top management of the

> relevant pharma companies. But these people are often extremely busy

> and probably have no time to read much of this extensive support

> group so they can't judge if PSSD is a serious problem. And of course

> they have to care for their personal scientific reputation. "

The top management of big pharma are just crooks, they will only do

what ever they do, for profit. legal or illegal. valid or invalid. It

makes no difference. It is all about money, money, money.

Eli Lilly's CEO's wife committed suicide 10 days into prozac treatment

and the company covered it up, telling the public that it was safe.

There is no greater power to these kind of folks than money.

As far as actual scientific integrity (what we need), it looks to me

like the Japanese are #1. I have not found one study that is flawed or

biased that they have done.

" So they mostly won't react if they hear from this support group. And

they are "

I think it depends on how the information is channeled, and who gets

it. In this respect, I know that doctors are allowed to publish

reports to scientific journals. I have found some of these reports to

be of interest here because there are some that are just about a

person with illness X goes to the doctor, and the doctor has to use

his/her own brain (as opposed to dishing out more pills like candy or

lying to the person)to find a new solution to a problem. Once this

type of study is published in a scientific journal/database, other

scientists think that it " warrants further investigation " . There are

only a handful of documents in these databases right now about SSRI

sexual dysfunction and psych med injury's. If only 50-100 people on

this list found doctors that would acknowledge and work as hard as the

few doctors who have made the fine example of themselves by taking

sexual dysfunction seriously and published their study's, we would

really get things rolling in the science dept.

Also I remember at least one published report of a body builder that

taught the doctor how to cure hypogonadism, low sperm count, sexual

dysfunction from using steroids. This is important to note because it

actually goes to show that regular folks who do enough research on

their own have figured out how to cure things that the scientists and

doctors never knew about. It is possible that one of our own members

could be intelligent enough and determined enough to figure out a cure

and then share it with the rest of the world. If that happens, my

suggestion to that person would be to patent the process to prevent

big pharma from cashing in on fixing the injury that they caused in

the first place, because they don't deserve to profit from the side

effect of causing a side effect.

> " possibly unwilling to register for this support group.

>

> I guess these people have only one hour to decide if this 'PSSD-

> stuff' is relevant to them or not. And if they think it important

> enough to take action, they have probably in total maximum hundred

> working hours to do so, including debate with other experts. Because

> there are so many other very important problems they have to deal

> with. "

In response I'll just re-iterate the basic point from earlier.

If they stand to make billions $$ they will think it's important

enough. Due to previous mentioned reasons, the " who and how " of

finding a cure, creates a moral dilemma. This may seem like a

non-issue to half the people reading this though.

>

> " So I think it is nessecary that a very clear and well organized and

> structured summary is made from the information on this forum. This

> summary should be publicized prominently on a weblog or webforum that

> anybody can read without registration. This summary could be about

> ten to twenty pages text with an extensive list of specified weblinks

> to more information on PSSD.

>

> Anybody on this forum can choose to write a part of this summary

> about a specific selected partial subject in relation to PSSD. For

> example:

> - What can we calculate statistically about the patient group from

> this support group, based on their writings?

> - How many members have send a post in the last two years?

> - How many different members of this group have ever written to

> suppose that they or their relative are a PSSD victim? Which psycho

> medications were used in these cases and which of those drugs do they

> suspect to be the cause of their PSSD?

> - What are our theories about the specific biological causes of PSSD?

> - What are possible solutions?

> - Which alternative remedies have an effect? Etc.

> - But most importantly, what are the specific data and arguments to

> suppose that the sexual symptoms are the cause of the used psycho

> drugs? That will be the main focus of scientists and officials to

> decide for research funding and scientifical publication of PSSD.

>

> If twenty persons would each write one page about one partial subject

> of PSSD, we have a summary of twenty pages in total. And this summary

> should not be perfect! Let's start with a very preliminary summary

> without even consulting the texts on this forum. This preliminary

> summary can later be improved by others. Sort of like the Wikipedia

> system. We could even use special wiki-software for that.

>

> Anyway, allocation of tasks among members of this PSSD forum seems

> important to me. Just like in any succesful political or commercial

> organization, like a pharma company.

>

> And the PSSD group also needs some money I guess. It would be great

> if we could even hire a scientific professional, which is extremely

> expensive. How can we raise money for the PSSD movement? For example,

> members of this forum can make a financial transaction via their bank

> to the moderators of this forum, if we know a bank account number.

> They have done a lot of very important work. Such a financial

> transaction can de done amonymously by a cash deposit in a bank

> office. I am not involved in the organization of this forum, so I

> have no personal interest in this suggestion. And I personally don't

> know the person(s) people behind this forum. But I think they do very

> important work. "

I think the best approach is that the first things members should do

is print copy's of the already published reports of psych med induced

sexual dysfunction, first from the scientific database, and then from

a few news story's like the one that was posted a few days ago that

said the married lady who got hypersexuality from the head injury was

" treated with an SSRI because of it's PROVEN sexual dampening effect " .

These reports will give the doctors in denial a reality check and make

it impossible to deny. No more hearing " the medicatation couldn't have

caused it " and " it's all in your head " (i.e. imaginary). Then ask this

doctor to work on a study about PSSD to be published in a scientific

journal. If he won't, then find one that will. Although the study that

said the PSSD rats were cured by running could present an easy

opportunity for the doctor to say " running will fix it, have a nice day. "

[Guest guest]

survivor030406 wrote:

> Big pharma wrote in their drug information labels that the rate is

> about 4%. Later study's have proven that the real number is more like

> 80%. So the true number is actually in the hundreds of millions.

> (80% of 543 million)

I think PSSD is defined as sexual dysfunction due to an SSRI that

prolongs after quitting the SSRI. The 80% rate refers to the percentage

of SSRI users that have sexual side effects while still using an SSRI.

[Guest guest]

" i think what you are saying is rite and i mostly agree with you, but

there is no way pharmaceutical companies are ever going to spend

money on researching something that they are going to end up liable

for! "

At first this seems to be a reasonable assumption, but a few weeks ago

I learned that this is not actually the case. (I think it was on a

youtube video)The pharmaceutical industry is in a unique position to

create new markets for which they will make more profits from.

Eli Lilly: Prozac was there #1 most profitable drug. Prozac causes

diabetes and psychosis. Now their #2 and #3 best selling drugs are for

diabetes and psychosis. The way they avoid liability is their policy

of denying the drug injury's and as a last resort, settling lawsuits

out of court, which prevents the courts from publishing a guilty

verdict because there is no verdict in settlements. And these

settlements are also hush contracts where the plaintiff is not allowed

to talk about it.

Also big pharma doesn't advertise their drugs with statements like

" did you get diabetes and psychosis from Prozac? Ask your doctor about

insulin and Zyprexa. "

And it is becoming well known that since the explosive profits being

raked in from Viagra, that big pharma is looking to create the next

Viagra. The next " me too " drug. Just like what happened with SSRI's.

In a few years there could be 20 different Viagra clones on the

market. There would be differences in efficacy and side effects, but

there could also be discovery's of potential therapeutic quality's

because of the variances in chemical structures. Pharmaceutical

chemists have created thousands, or even millions of compounds that

were never studied. This fact alone means that there is some

possibility that there could be an effective drug for PSSD already

invented but was never studied, so no one would even know about it.

It's the pharmaceutical equivalent of a basement full of cold case

files. But if the people in the proper channels of finding a cure for

PSSD do not see a market and profit potential for doing so, then we

will continue to be ignored. I know it is sickening to hear that these

company's will just profit from the injury's they created, but it is

what it is. The only other foreseeable possibility is if one of these

scientists actually gets PSSD so he/she has the personal motive to

invent a cure regardless of profit or corporate interest.

[Guest guest]

your rite about them having developed thousands if not billions of

compounds!!!!!!

they could easily be manufacturing compounds into there already

regulated drugs which have sexual side effects that require a life

time of treatment on there other upcoming drugs!!!!!

in fact they may well be doing so rite now.

if im not mistaken Glaxo smith Kline own a kids soft drink company

called ribena, now ribena is made from blackcurrants or should i say

it did and now its only about 1% of the drinks ingredients.

blackcurrants are a natural maoi inhibitor....hummmmm

why would gsk be interested in this well let me think, i leave you to

work that out.....

have you ever seen the first batman film with jack nicholson?

who played the joker, in the film everyone gets sick or ill and no

one knows how or why, they suspect food drink or cosmetics.

but testing or analyzing all these things finds nothing!

its not until batman discovers that the joker has poisoned all the

people by putting different compounds in different consumer

merchandise that react only when a person has come into contact with

2 or more of the products, that's why when they test just one they

find nothing wrong with it....

now this is just a film but it makes you think!!!

ask your self this, how hard would it be for a pharmaceutical company

to genetically engineer a plant or a flower that humans are allergic

to?

now if this pharmaceutical company had lots anti histamine meds, then

it would be tempting for them to pollinate the existing plants simply

by planting it and letting the bees do the rest.

please dont edit this it would make a great movie!

>

> " i think what you are saying is rite and i mostly agree with you,

but

> there is no way pharmaceutical companies are ever going to spend

> money on researching something that they are going to end up

liable

> for! "

>

> At first this seems to be a reasonable assumption, but a few weeks

ago

> I learned that this is not actually the case. (I think it was on a

> youtube video)The pharmaceutical industry is in a unique position to

> create new markets for which they will make more profits from.

> Eli Lilly: Prozac was there #1 most profitable drug. Prozac causes

> diabetes and psychosis. Now their #2 and #3 best selling drugs are

for

> diabetes and psychosis. The way they avoid liability is their policy

> of denying the drug injury's and as a last resort, settling lawsuits

> out of court, which prevents the courts from publishing a guilty

> verdict because there is no verdict in settlements. And these

> settlements are also hush contracts where the plaintiff is not

allowed

> to talk about it.

> Also big pharma doesn't advertise their drugs with statements like

> " did you get diabetes and psychosis from Prozac? Ask your doctor

about

> insulin and Zyprexa. "

> And it is becoming well known that since the explosive profits being

> raked in from Viagra, that big pharma is looking to create the next

> Viagra. The next " me too " drug. Just like what happened with SSRI's.

> In a few years there could be 20 different Viagra clones on the

> market. There would be differences in efficacy and side effects, but

> there could also be discovery's of potential therapeutic quality's

> because of the variances in chemical structures. Pharmaceutical

> chemists have created thousands, or even millions of compounds that

> were never studied. This fact alone means that there is some

> possibility that there could be an effective drug for PSSD already

> invented but was never studied, so no one would even know about

it.

> It's the pharmaceutical equivalent of a basement full of cold case

> files. But if the people in the proper channels of finding a cure

for

> PSSD do not see a market and profit potential for doing so, then we

> will continue to be ignored. I know it is sickening to hear that

these

> company's will just profit from the injury's they created, but it is

> what it is. The only other foreseeable possibility is if one of

these

> scientists actually gets PSSD so he/she has the personal motive to

> invent a cure regardless of profit or corporate interest.

>

[Guest guest]

I understand what your saying. PSSD is rarely reported,

so at this time we can only speculate on what the real number could be.

Maybe it's 25%, maybe it's close to 80%. I tend to lean to the worst

case scenario because I'm left feeling bitter towards the psych/pharma

industry after all the criminal acts they've done.

I understand your point though. I'm not trying to contradict what your

saying. I just think the injury is a lot more prevalent because it is

known that most folks feel too embarrassed to spontaneously report

this adverse event, and doctors have a well established history of

just blaming it on anything they can besides the meds.

>

> > Big pharma wrote in their drug information labels that the rate is

> > about 4%. Later study's have proven that the real number is more like

> > 80%. So the true number is actually in the hundreds of millions.

> > (80% of 543 million)

>

> I think PSSD is defined as sexual dysfunction due to an SSRI that

> prolongs after quitting the SSRI. The 80% rate refers to the percentage

> of SSRI users that have sexual side effects while still using an SSRI.

>

[Guest guest]

" they could easily be manufacturing compounds into there already

regulated drugs which have sexual side effects that require a life

time of treatment on there other upcoming drugs!!!!!

in fact they may well be doing so rite now. "

This rings a bell here. Recently it was on the news that the FDA

actually tests only 7% of imported drugs. The same drugs that are

prescribed by the doctor. An investigation found some of these drugs

to have an unforeseen defect that the material in the pills

deteriorates over time, the resulting contamination IS highly toxic

and dangerous. Have we heard anything from the government or the FDA

about fixing this problem? NO. This was on the news just a few days

ago. An FDA spokesman responded to this by saying that their resources

are so cut back, that they just can't regulate these problems anymore.

Doesn't this fact alone undermine the DEA's crusade to stop the

importation of drugs from overseas? 90% of drugs sold in the US are

made in China and India.

Hmm...China? If we have been paying attention here, we've been seeing

childrens toys made in China that are made with lead paint and date

rape drugs etc.. China has no quality control systems for anything, no

respect for human life itself, look what they're doing to Falun Gong

practitioners. But Americans are more upset over gas prices. They had

an expert on the issue saying that drugs imported from Europe have

never been fakes or contaminated, so your safe to import drugs from

Europe. (they consider piracetem and SAM-E to be drugs, I have a

friend from Germany and she says none of the advil, aleive, or cold

medicines are legal there) As I said before, the government is not our

friends.

Rarely do they fix anything, and that is only by investigating post

market reports, and it is extremely rare for people to report problems

to the FDA.

" have you ever seen the first batman film with jack nicholson?

who played the joker, in the film everyone gets sick or ill and no

one knows how or why, they suspect food drink or cosmetics.

but testing or analyzing all these things finds nothing!

its not until batman discovers that the joker has poisoned all the

people by putting different compounds in different consumer

merchandise that react only when a person has come into contact with

2 or more of the products, that's why when they test just one they

find nothing wrong with it....

now this is just a film but it makes you think!!! "

A lot of science fiction and comic book story's have actually had

certain themes play out in the real world. This very well could be

another one of those times.

Look at aspartame. I'm sure some cold or pain medicine mixed with it

could be disastrous.

" ask your self this, how hard would it be for a pharmaceutical

company to genetically engineer a plant or a flower that humans are

allergic to? now if this pharmaceutical company had lots anti

histamine meds, then it would be tempting for them to pollinate the

existing plants simply by planting it and letting the bees do the

rest. please dont edit this it would make a great movie! "

Sure, it is easy for them to do those things. They have the technology

and billions $$. They can weaponize anthrax by making it float in the

air. Big pharma directly infected a large number of people with the

HIV virus, which spread to millions of unsuspecting victims. There is

a video of an interview with the doctor who orchestrated that assault

on our society. He admitted it. Just search on youtube for it.

hmm...those perps at the ruthless pharma cartel never were punished

for it, and now they make big, big $$ selling extremely expensive AIDS

drugs. As I said before, they ARE in a unique position to create new

markets for them to profit from. Although it started as an accident,

there is no doubt that it put a lot of sick ideas into the minds of

the CEO's and presidents in the pharma industrial complex. There is

even a video of one saying he wrote a book about the truth. He did bad

things. illegal things. All in the name of money.

If one of us independently finds a cure for PSSD, PATENT IT!

DON'T LET THE RUTHLESS PHARMA CARTEL PROFIT ANYMORE FROM DOING THIS.

[Guest guest]

your someone like me, you see past the bullshit and know whats really

going on here!!!!

they need to be stopped!!!

>

> " they could easily be manufacturing compounds into there already

> regulated drugs which have sexual side effects that require a life

> time of treatment on there other upcoming drugs!!!!!

> in fact they may well be doing so rite now. "

>

> This rings a bell here. Recently it was on the news that the FDA

> actually tests only 7% of imported drugs. The same drugs that are

> prescribed by the doctor. An investigation found some of these drugs

> to have an unforeseen defect that the material in the pills

> deteriorates over time, the resulting contamination IS highly toxic

> and dangerous. Have we heard anything from the government or the FDA

> about fixing this problem? NO. This was on the news just a few days

> ago. An FDA spokesman responded to this by saying that their

resources

> are so cut back, that they just can't regulate these problems

anymore.

> Doesn't this fact alone undermine the DEA's crusade to stop the

> importation of drugs from overseas? 90% of drugs sold in the US are

> made in China and India.

> Hmm...China? If we have been paying attention here, we've been

seeing

> childrens toys made in China that are made with lead paint and date

> rape drugs etc.. China has no quality control systems for anything,

no

> respect for human life itself, look what they're doing to Falun Gong

> practitioners. But Americans are more upset over gas prices. They

had

> an expert on the issue saying that drugs imported from Europe have

> never been fakes or contaminated, so your safe to import drugs from

> Europe. (they consider piracetem and SAM-E to be drugs, I have a

> friend from Germany and she says none of the advil, aleive, or cold

> medicines are legal there) As I said before, the government is not

our

> friends.

> Rarely do they fix anything, and that is only by investigating post

> market reports, and it is extremely rare for people to report

problems

> to the FDA.

>

> " have you ever seen the first batman film with jack nicholson?

> who played the joker, in the film everyone gets sick or ill and

no

> one knows how or why, they suspect food drink or cosmetics.

> but testing or analyzing all these things finds nothing!

> its not until batman discovers that the joker has poisoned all

the

> people by putting different compounds in different consumer

> merchandise that react only when a person has come into contact

with

> 2 or more of the products, that's why when they test just one they

> find nothing wrong with it....

> now this is just a film but it makes you think!!! "

>

> A lot of science fiction and comic book story's have actually had

> certain themes play out in the real world. This very well could be

> another one of those times.

> Look at aspartame. I'm sure some cold or pain medicine mixed with it

> could be disastrous.

>

> " ask your self this, how hard would it be for a pharmaceutical

> company to genetically engineer a plant or a flower that humans are

> allergic to? now if this pharmaceutical company had lots anti

> histamine meds, then it would be tempting for them to pollinate the

> existing plants simply by planting it and letting the bees do the

> rest. please dont edit this it would make a great movie! "

>

> Sure, it is easy for them to do those things. They have the

technology

> and billions $$. They can weaponize anthrax by making it float in

the

> air. Big pharma directly infected a large number of people with the

> HIV virus, which spread to millions of unsuspecting victims. There

is

> a video of an interview with the doctor who orchestrated that

assault

> on our society. He admitted it. Just search on youtube for it.

> hmm...those perps at the ruthless pharma cartel never were punished

> for it, and now they make big, big $$ selling extremely expensive

AIDS

> drugs. As I said before, they ARE in a unique position to create new

> markets for them to profit from. Although it started as an accident,

> there is no doubt that it put a lot of sick ideas into the minds of

> the CEO's and presidents in the pharma industrial complex. There is

> even a video of one saying he wrote a book about the truth. He did

bad

> things. illegal things. All in the name of money.

>

> If one of us independently finds a cure for PSSD, PATENT IT!

> DON'T LET THE RUTHLESS PHARMA CARTEL PROFIT ANYMORE FROM DOING THIS.

>