Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 whats there organic shelf life got to do with anything, ive never heard that expression before, does he mean its half life when its in the body. well even if he means that if your taking it every day. hello! you have had a chemical between you synapses allowing continuous electrical transmission, when your awake, when your asleep, when your doing this when your doing that, he has no rite to comment on something like that when he obviously knows nothing about it other than what the regulators know which is what the drug companies have let them know. these drugs are supposed to change the way your mind works, that's what they do, ask him this and he will say yes! these drugs do cause side effects associated with sex, delayed ejaculation, ask him this and he will have to say yes! so what makes him think these things are going to go away after you stop taking them? unless these drugs don't do what they are supposed to do and change the way you think! coz in that case why does anyone take them, if all they are supposed to do is leave you in the exact same way as when you went on them? hmm yeah im going to take this drug for my mental illness and when i stop taking it ill still have my mental illness!!! that would make for a pretty effective drug don't you think, mr urologist? it would make the drug companies millions wouldn't it mr urologist if that's what it did and that's the way it was marketed? so mr urologist is that what these drugs do, leave you in the same state of mind as when you went on them? ooooooooohhhhhh cat got your tong mr urologist? > > I went to see a urologist for the first time today. You all are, I am sure, > familiar with their old song and dance. He wants to check my levels, of > course. Aside from that, he tells me that SSRIs cannot give you PSSD because their > " organic shelf life " is not that long. That, of course, doesn't take into > account the possibility that SSRIs cause permanent changes on the genetic > level!!! Or, that they may permanently disrupt the neurotransmitters between the > brain and genitalia!!! I presume that he is ignorant of these last two > possibilities. OR IS HE? He claims that it will go away with time, but of course, I > am sure you all have been told the same thing. Just one more wasted visit to > the urologist thanks to SSRIs. > > > > > > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Yeah, I think he means it's half life in the body. He claimed that SSRIs do effect you sexually. But he claims that that they only effect the libido, and ejaculation! I told him all the things that happened to me after re-starting these drugs, indeed, after a few days on them! He just ignored what I said, and claimed that if the problem was "organic" (which seems to be a favorite word of his) that it wouldn't come on me suddenly. He mentioned impotence caused by high blood pressure and diabetes as per the Levitra commercial. He implied that it was in my head (big surprise!) What kind of experiences have you had with urologists? Are they generally this ignorant and unhelpful? I think my doc meant well, I just think that he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. He told me it would go away on it's own. Would that that were true! I've read too much in this Group to be comforted by his words. I pray that it does go away on it's own, for all of us! See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 , My urologist has admitted that he believes in the phenomenon of PSSD, brought about by SSRIs. He has listened to me and has heard similar stories prior to mine.He could find no other reason for my impotence, although he noted that my testoserone was low-side normal. He could offer no " cure " so-to-speak other than the hope that time might reverse some of the damage. I have neither blood pressure or diabetes issues. Furthermore, my symptoms came on fairly gradually, although I did notice rather marked changes in my body from time-to-time. As I lost my sexual function I originally attributed it to my history, as I had smoked, at one time drank heavilly, and was exposed to organic solvents(xylene) on a daily basis for a couple of years. The flaw with that arguement was that after I left them alone I still had fairly good sexual function, although I had begun taking Prozac and was on it many years afterward. At the time I quit Prozac I had become completely impotent, and thats the reason I quit it and tried Wellbutrin: to see if it would make a difference. For me the Wellbutrin did nothing to help sexual function at all, only the side effects many have reported, plus withdrawals when I quit it, and anti-depressants all together. An interesting problem I have noticed over the years, since I have quit Prozac, is that I have trouble typing, it seems like the letters get jumbled up in my mind, almost like dyslexia. I never had this before...typing this is driving me nuts. I went back to school and became a network engineer: typing in commands on routers and switches gets on my nerves, as I'm always making typograpical errors, even though I kow the commands in my sleep, they don't exit my mind to my fingers properly. It's lik esomething has been rewired. Honestly, I don't necessarily think that your urologist was ignorant of the phenomenon: I think that many urologists are starting to hear these stories pop up. They don't have anything to gain by denying the phenomenon: the psychiatrists do. I think the big pharma companies know all about it and are covering it up as best they can. Bill Varuna1907@... wrote: > Yeah, I think he means it's half life in the body. He claimed that > SSRIs do effect you sexually. But he claims that that they only effect > the libido, and ejaculation! I told him all the things that happened > to me after re-starting these drugs, indeed, after a few days on them! > He just ignored what I said, and claimed that if the problem was > " organic " (which seems to be a favorite word of his) that it wouldn't > come on me suddenly. He mentioned impotence caused by high blood > pressure and diabetes as per the Levitra commercial. He implied that > it was in my head (big surprise!) What kind of experiences have you > had with urologists? Are they generally this ignorant and unhelpful? I > think my doc meant well, I just think that he doesn't know what the > hell he's talking about. He told me it would go away on it's own. > Would that that were true! I've read too much in this Group to be > comforted by his words. I pray that it does go away on it's own, for > all of us! > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > See AOL's top rated recipes > <http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004> and > easy ways to stay in shape > <http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aoltop00030000000003> > for winter. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 12/14/2007 11:29 AM > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 teephos wrote: If this doesn't help, you might try to provide him with some > papers on PSSD to at least make him aware of the issue. Should this > not change his/her opinion - look for another doc. IMO it might be better to show your doctor the commputerprints about PSSD right away. Than he doesn't have to change his opinion (give in) and he will save face. And than there is possibly more change that he will show interest in PSSD. If you show up the papers after he has denied PSSD, he might feel a little tested or even trapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Hey Bill, Thanks for the response. You're right in saying that the urologists have nothing to gain, but the shrinks do. I don't thinkj that my shrink is malevolent, but I don't think that he's telling the whole stoy either. I am sorry to hear about your typing problem, in your line of work, that must be very frustrating. I think that these drugs have affected my mind too. I have suffered from serious depression since I was about twenty, and I am now twenty- eight. I often thought that the depression has made my mind not as sharp, I don't have the memory that I used to, and I feel more confused than in the past. I used to think that this was caused by the depression, but now I wonder. Who knows what these drugs have done to our heads? who can say the effect that dousing your brain with chemicals everyday for (in my case) six years has on us? I think that one day anti-depressant drugs will be accorded the same scientific status as phrenology, yet with a much larger body count! The story that Biker posted is hopeful, and leads me to believe that perhaps what we need most is the time to heal our sick mind/bodies. God give everyone in this group strength. See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 You're right, of course. No matter how you approach it, it's most likely gonna be a challenge, though. > > If this doesn't help, you might try to provide him with some > > papers on PSSD to at least make him aware of the issue. Should this > > not change his/her opinion - look for another doc. > > IMO it might be better to show your doctor the commputerprints about > PSSD right away. Than he doesn't have to change his opinion (give in) > and he will save face. And than there is possibly more change that he > will show interest in PSSD. If you show up the papers after he has > denied PSSD, he might feel a little tested or even trapped. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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