Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Hello and welcome to the group. I'm very busy right now so i'll keep this short. I would like to ask you a very selfish question that could perhaps help our cause here. I noticed that you are from Luxembourg. Do you know any French or German? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Hi anonymous, We can communicate in French or German, thats no problem for me, where are you from? do you have any experiences with SSRIS? Do you want me to translate something? I don't know other french or german people having the same problems Regards Jean --- anymonus777 wrote: > Hello and welcome to the group. I'm very busy > right now so i'll > keep this short. I would like to ask you a very > selfish question that > could perhaps help our cause here. I noticed that > you are from > Luxembourg. Do you know any French or German? > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Thanks for the reply. I'm Icelandic actually and i took SSRI antidepressants for about 3-4 years. I don't know any French and i can just barely read German. The reason why i asked is that i have been posting these videos about PSSD on youtube to try to get the message out to people. I read on Wikipedia that French and German are official languages in Luxembourg (or at least were) along with Luxembourgish. My point is that German and French are amongst the largest languages in Europe and also on the internet. So if we could get a video about PSSD in either French or German on the internet that would increase awareness alot. Here is the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0a1-LJNW6Q If you would like to translate it or write a similar text warning people in either French, German or both languages you could just post it on this messageboard and i could make the video. You don't have to rush to make a decission just take your time and if you are interested just post another comment or start a topic sometime in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 wel all i can say is i took trazodone hydrochloride and seroxat only for a month or so after being on sleeping pills because i couldnt sleep (ive always had the sleep problem even from being about 3 years old) i also got noises in my ears that were caused by the ssris but it was more of a sensitivity to sound than anything that was there permanently. i know it was the ssris that did it because after one year off them the sensitivity greatly improved. i took them again for a day of two and it come back as it was a year ago (so i know it was the medication that did it) > > > Dear All, > > HERE iS MY STORY: (Sorry but it is long) > > 2 years ago I was heavily mobbed at work, and got suicidal > thoughts, very heavy headaches, a kind of paralyzing sadness > that felt like having ice in the head, I was very nervous, angry, ... > but I was still feeling " normal " , able to enjoy sports, beeing > with friends, reading, beeing horny ... > > I went to the doctor and he gave me Seroxat (Praxil, a SSRI), I > hesitated but I took it, as there are almost any bad side-effects > written on the Patient information leaflet. My doctor also told me > just take it, it will make you feel good, and even though I > insisted he didn't tell me of any side effects or withdrawal > problems. > > One week later I suddenly felt very bad, heard a " SSSSSS " noise, > felt like a phosphor bomb exploded in my head (which is 100 times > worse than the ice feeling in the head), could not feel any more > feelings, felt like having drunk 3 bottles of wine, was unable to > concentrate, cooridinate movements well, and got completely impotent, > extremely anxious, and was feeling like not beeing myself anymore. > > After 1 month I stopped Seroxat, but my condition worsened > and even though beeing able to have orgasms I didn't enjoy them > anymore. > > After 2 months, I was terrified to death, thought I was dying, > cound not command my body or mind to do whatever effort, got even > afraid of my own movements and felt very strange seeing myself in > the mirror. I went to the hospital and the doctor told me I had > schizophrenia. > > During 16 months I was treatened for schiozophrenia (Risperdal), > and took another SSRI (Cipramil) on the advice of my new doctor (I > told him I had taken Seroxat). I tolerated these medicaments, > although Riperdal makes you feel very tired, unable to ejaculate, > and triples you apetite (I gained 25 kg). With the time doing its > job my condition improved, with the luck I lacked during the 5 > years before I found a good job and a nice girlfriend. > > One month ago I threw the medicaments away, My condition > even improved a little bit more, and I lost 8 kg. I think > I neither had a classical depression nor schizophrenia (I > had no hallucinations, except the " SSSSSSSSS " noise which > is not a hallucination). > > However I still feel very strange, like having much less > emotions than 3 years ago, I don't enjoy efforts of the body > and the mind anymore (I was a mathematician and I did athletics), > my libido is only 15% of the huge libido I once had. I am also > very anxious. I cannot continue living like this for 5 more years > > HERE IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, > > -are there many people who have similar experiences ? > (I fond similar stories in the messages but maybe not all) > -given my story what do you think do I suffer from > (schizophrenia, depression, persistent SSRI side effects, ...) > -which medicaments can I try out to improve my mental health > -Stablon (tianeptine), my doctor says it is almost never > prescribed but he says it has no risks. It is anxiolytic, > may improve libido and is antidepressant. It also is an > SSRE (selective serotonin reuptake enhancer) so it might > correct the effects of an SSRI (selective serotonin > reuptake inhibatior). > -Bupropion is often used for the treatment of SSRI-induced > sexual dysfunction. > -other medicaments > -in which order should I try medicaments to minimize risks. > > THANKS A LOT FOR YOU RESPONSES > > thanks also for creating this mailing-list and if you > need some help tell me. > > Greetings from Luxembourg > > Jean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 jonny_man19@... wrote: " We can communicate in French or German, thats > no problem for me, where are you from? do you > have any experiences with SSRIS? Do you want me to > translate something? " It would be great if someone would publicize a German or French translation on www.wikipedia.org (or on an anonymous personal weblog) of the English Wikipedia-article about PSSD. (Or of course a Spanish translation, being an world language.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Look for websites about therapy for bullying victims. Some of these victims even suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder caused bij the bullying. Loving and accepting friends may help you cope with your situation and heal your mental trauma. And you should actively try to create a social safe situation on the job and at home. If your situation is still not socially safe enough, you should change it or find a safer situation. Consider Cognitive Behaviour Therapy as well, being the most evidence-based psychotherapy for most mental problems!! > Dear All, > > HERE iS MY STORY: (Sorry but it is long) > > 2 years ago I was heavily mobbed at work, and got suicidal > thoughts, very heavy headaches, a kind of paralyzing sadness > that felt like having ice in the head, I was very nervous, angry, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 I'll do the translations but I don't know when, my french and german are good, but not as perfect as the languages of Voltaire and Goethe --- anymonus777 wrote: > Thanks for the reply. I'm Icelandic actually and i > took SSRI > antidepressants for about 3-4 years. I don't know > any French and i can > just barely read German. The reason why i asked is > that i have been > posting these videos about PSSD on youtube to try to > get the message > out to people. I read on Wikipedia that French and > German are official > languages in Luxembourg (or at least were) along > with Luxembourgish. > My point is that German and French are amongst the > largest languages > in Europe and also on the internet. So if we could > get a video about > PSSD in either French or German on the internet that > would increase > awareness alot. > > Here is the video. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0a1-LJNW6Q > > If you would like to translate it or write a similar > text warning > people in either French, German or both languages > you could just post > it on this messageboard and i could make the video. > You don't have to > rush to make a decission just take your time and if > you are interested > just post another comment or start a topic sometime > in the future. > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Thanks a lot. You can do them whenever you want to. Your French and German are probably better than my English. Look i even misspelled my username for Christ's sake :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Same thing with me when I was on effexor. Once I stopped the ringing in my ear stopped gradually enough to where I didn't notice, but then came back suddenly when I restarted. nemo.shark wrote: > > wel all i can say is i took trazodone hydrochloride and seroxat only > for a month or so after being on sleeping pills because i couldnt > sleep (ive always had the sleep problem even from being about 3 years > old) i also got noises in my ears that were caused by the ssris but > it was more of a sensitivity to sound than anything that was there > permanently. i know it was the ssris that did it because after one > year off them the sensitivity greatly improved. > > i took them again for a day of two and it come back as it was a year > ago (so i know it was the medication that did it) > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > HERE iS MY STORY: (Sorry but it is long) > > > > 2 years ago I was heavily mobbed at work, and got suicidal > > thoughts, very heavy headaches, a kind of paralyzing sadness > > that felt like having ice in the head, I was very nervous, > angry, ... > > but I was still feeling " normal " , able to enjoy sports, beeing > > with friends, reading, beeing horny ... > > > > I went to the doctor and he gave me Seroxat (Praxil, a SSRI), I > > hesitated but I took it, as there are almost any bad side-effects > > written on the Patient information leaflet. My doctor also told me > > just take it, it will make you feel good, and even though I > > insisted he didn't tell me of any side effects or withdrawal > > problems. > > > > One week later I suddenly felt very bad, heard a " SSSSSS " noise, > > felt like a phosphor bomb exploded in my head (which is 100 times > > worse than the ice feeling in the head), could not feel any more > > feelings, felt like having drunk 3 bottles of wine, was unable to > > concentrate, cooridinate movements well, and got completely > impotent, > > extremely anxious, and was feeling like not beeing myself anymore. > > > > After 1 month I stopped Seroxat, but my condition worsened > > and even though beeing able to have orgasms I didn't enjoy them > > anymore. > > > > After 2 months, I was terrified to death, thought I was dying, > > cound not command my body or mind to do whatever effort, got even > > afraid of my own movements and felt very strange seeing myself in > > the mirror. I went to the hospital and the doctor told me I had > > schizophrenia. > > > > During 16 months I was treatened for schiozophrenia (Risperdal), > > and took another SSRI (Cipramil) on the advice of my new doctor (I > > told him I had taken Seroxat). I tolerated these medicaments, > > although Riperdal makes you feel very tired, unable to ejaculate, > > and triples you apetite (I gained 25 kg). With the time doing its > > job my condition improved, with the luck I lacked during the 5 > > years before I found a good job and a nice girlfriend. > > > > One month ago I threw the medicaments away, My condition > > even improved a little bit more, and I lost 8 kg. I think > > I neither had a classical depression nor schizophrenia (I > > had no hallucinations, except the " SSSSSSSSS " noise which > > is not a hallucination). > > > > However I still feel very strange, like having much less > > emotions than 3 years ago, I don't enjoy efforts of the body > > and the mind anymore (I was a mathematician and I did athletics), > > my libido is only 15% of the huge libido I once had. I am also > > very anxious. I cannot continue living like this for 5 more years > > > > HERE IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, > > > > -are there many people who have similar experiences ? > > (I fond similar stories in the messages but maybe not all) > > -given my story what do you think do I suffer from > > (schizophrenia, depression, persistent SSRI side effects, ...) > > -which medicaments can I try out to improve my mental health > > -Stablon (tianeptine), my doctor says it is almost never > > prescribed but he says it has no risks. It is anxiolytic, > > may improve libido and is antidepressant. It also is an > > SSRE (selective serotonin reuptake enhancer) so it might > > correct the effects of an SSRI (selective serotonin > > reuptake inhibatior). > > -Bupropion is often used for the treatment of SSRI-induced > > sexual dysfunction. > > -other medicaments > > -in which order should I try medicaments to minimize risks. > > > > THANKS A LOT FOR YOU RESPONSES > > > > thanks also for creating this mailing-list and if you > > need some help tell me. > > > > Greetings from Luxembourg > > > > Jean > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 yeah ive still got this problem with sensitivity to sound 5-6 years on, its worce in the morning when i wake up and gets better throughout the day. im not sure if its because my head is lay on its side while im asleep and this is pressing on a nerve or something, or if its just got something to do with sleep its self?? one thing is for sure though the longer im asleep the worce it is when i wake up!! it got much better after a heavy metal detox that i did years ago, ch elation therapy, i took edta & dmsa, nac, alpha lipoic acid, and numerous other things. i aslo did loads of coffee enemas for over 6 weeks. > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > HERE iS MY STORY: (Sorry but it is long) > > > > > > 2 years ago I was heavily mobbed at work, and got suicidal > > > thoughts, very heavy headaches, a kind of paralyzing sadness > > > that felt like having ice in the head, I was very nervous, > > angry, ... > > > but I was still feeling " normal " , able to enjoy sports, beeing > > > with friends, reading, beeing horny ... > > > > > > I went to the doctor and he gave me Seroxat (Praxil, a SSRI), I > > > hesitated but I took it, as there are almost any bad side- effects > > > written on the Patient information leaflet. My doctor also told me > > > just take it, it will make you feel good, and even though I > > > insisted he didn't tell me of any side effects or withdrawal > > > problems. > > > > > > One week later I suddenly felt very bad, heard a " SSSSSS " noise, > > > felt like a phosphor bomb exploded in my head (which is 100 times > > > worse than the ice feeling in the head), could not feel any more > > > feelings, felt like having drunk 3 bottles of wine, was unable to > > > concentrate, cooridinate movements well, and got completely > > impotent, > > > extremely anxious, and was feeling like not beeing myself anymore. > > > > > > After 1 month I stopped Seroxat, but my condition worsened > > > and even though beeing able to have orgasms I didn't enjoy them > > > anymore. > > > > > > After 2 months, I was terrified to death, thought I was dying, > > > cound not command my body or mind to do whatever effort, got even > > > afraid of my own movements and felt very strange seeing myself in > > > the mirror. I went to the hospital and the doctor told me I had > > > schizophrenia. > > > > > > During 16 months I was treatened for schiozophrenia (Risperdal), > > > and took another SSRI (Cipramil) on the advice of my new doctor (I > > > told him I had taken Seroxat). I tolerated these medicaments, > > > although Riperdal makes you feel very tired, unable to ejaculate, > > > and triples you apetite (I gained 25 kg). With the time doing its > > > job my condition improved, with the luck I lacked during the 5 > > > years before I found a good job and a nice girlfriend. > > > > > > One month ago I threw the medicaments away, My condition > > > even improved a little bit more, and I lost 8 kg. I think > > > I neither had a classical depression nor schizophrenia (I > > > had no hallucinations, except the " SSSSSSSSS " noise which > > > is not a hallucination). > > > > > > However I still feel very strange, like having much less > > > emotions than 3 years ago, I don't enjoy efforts of the body > > > and the mind anymore (I was a mathematician and I did athletics), > > > my libido is only 15% of the huge libido I once had. I am also > > > very anxious. I cannot continue living like this for 5 more years > > > > > > HERE IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, > > > > > > -are there many people who have similar experiences ? > > > (I fond similar stories in the messages but maybe not all) > > > -given my story what do you think do I suffer from > > > (schizophrenia, depression, persistent SSRI side effects, ...) > > > -which medicaments can I try out to improve my mental health > > > -Stablon (tianeptine), my doctor says it is almost never > > > prescribed but he says it has no risks. It is anxiolytic, > > > may improve libido and is antidepressant. It also is an > > > SSRE (selective serotonin reuptake enhancer) so it might > > > correct the effects of an SSRI (selective serotonin > > > reuptake inhibatior). > > > -Bupropion is often used for the treatment of SSRI-induced > > > sexual dysfunction. > > > -other medicaments > > > -in which order should I try medicaments to minimize risks. > > > > > > THANKS A LOT FOR YOU RESPONSES > > > > > > thanks also for creating this mailing-list and if you > > > need some help tell me. > > > > > > Greetings from Luxembourg > > > > > > Jean > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Hello, welcome to the PSSD group. I'm very active here and glad to help however I can. I'm a little rough around the edges sometimes, because the pharmaceutical industrial complex has left me feeling very bitter. Please don't be offended if I use strong wording from time to time. Your doctor sucks. The " ssssss " noise in your head was a cerebral cardiovascular event. Kind of like accidentally injecting oil into a blood vessel and it gets into your brain and you hear the same noise. Serotonin is a cardiovascular agent. SSRI's disturb the balance so that's most likely the cause. 98% of serotonin receptors are outside of the brain. The brain has 2000 different kinds of serotonin, it is not known which kind is effected, and SSRI's also effect a bunch of other types of transmitters as well. The word " selective " is pure BS to begin with. The strange mental experiences you had are SSRI induced psychosis. The doctor didn't warn you about these things because it's a classic scam to falsely diagnose adverse drug reactions as a means to prescribe more profitable and dangerous drugs. If you take SSRI's and atypical anti-psychotics at the same time, you will become schizophrenic. So the schizophrenia diagnosis is a premeditated effort to protect himself from liability. The emotional blunting is the actual effect that these drugs have, even long after you discontinue them. Your doctor misrepresented the drugs as " happy pills " . There is no such thing. Now the anxiety is a result of the sudden life changing event of not being able to feel good feelings, and an over active sympathetic nervous system and antihistamine level. Your experience sounds very familiar. It is certainly not uncommon. It's probably more common than uncommon. Most people just keep falling for the doctors BS and go through a merry-go-round of trying 20 or 30 different meds, and still never feel better. What do you suffer from? It looks like you suffered at work, and felt fine at play. On that note, you suffered from having an overwhelming job. First,you should try a good dose of L-tryptophan and L-tyrosine. Wait a month for these supps to balance in your system. See how you feel then. Then you could try bupropion. I think 100mg is the best dose. Try it for a month and see how you feel then. I don't like the idea of taking an SSRE. But honestly I haven't done any research about it. To me it just sounds like more pseudo-science crap from big pharma. As for Stablon, I'm sure others on the list know more about it. I think it helps mood pretty well, but minimally effect sexual feelings. I hope this helps. Have a nice day. > > > Dear All, > > HERE iS MY STORY: (Sorry but it is long) > > 2 years ago I was heavily mobbed at work, and got suicidal > thoughts, very heavy headaches, a kind of paralyzing sadness > that felt like having ice in the head, I was very nervous, angry, ... > but I was still feeling " normal " , able to enjoy sports, beeing > with friends, reading, beeing horny ... > > I went to the doctor and he gave me Seroxat (Praxil, a SSRI), I > hesitated but I took it, as there are almost any bad side-effects > written on the Patient information leaflet. My doctor also told me > just take it, it will make you feel good, and even though I > insisted he didn't tell me of any side effects or withdrawal > problems. > > One week later I suddenly felt very bad, heard a " SSSSSS " noise, > felt like a phosphor bomb exploded in my head (which is 100 times > worse than the ice feeling in the head), could not feel any more > feelings, felt like having drunk 3 bottles of wine, was unable to > concentrate, cooridinate movements well, and got completely impotent, > extremely anxious, and was feeling like not beeing myself anymore. > > After 1 month I stopped Seroxat, but my condition worsened > and even though beeing able to have orgasms I didn't enjoy them > anymore. > > After 2 months, I was terrified to death, thought I was dying, > cound not command my body or mind to do whatever effort, got even > afraid of my own movements and felt very strange seeing myself in > the mirror. I went to the hospital and the doctor told me I had > schizophrenia. > > During 16 months I was treatened for schiozophrenia (Risperdal), > and took another SSRI (Cipramil) on the advice of my new doctor (I > told him I had taken Seroxat). I tolerated these medicaments, > although Riperdal makes you feel very tired, unable to ejaculate, > and triples you apetite (I gained 25 kg). With the time doing its > job my condition improved, with the luck I lacked during the 5 > years before I found a good job and a nice girlfriend. > > One month ago I threw the medicaments away, My condition > even improved a little bit more, and I lost 8 kg. I think > I neither had a classical depression nor schizophrenia (I > had no hallucinations, except the " SSSSSSSSS " noise which > is not a hallucination). > > However I still feel very strange, like having much less > emotions than 3 years ago, I don't enjoy efforts of the body > and the mind anymore (I was a mathematician and I did athletics), > my libido is only 15% of the huge libido I once had. I am also > very anxious. I cannot continue living like this for 5 more years > > HERE IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, > > -are there many people who have similar experiences ? > (I fond similar stories in the messages but maybe not all) > -given my story what do you think do I suffer from > (schizophrenia, depression, persistent SSRI side effects, ...) > -which medicaments can I try out to improve my mental health > -Stablon (tianeptine), my doctor says it is almost never > prescribed but he says it has no risks. It is anxiolytic, > may improve libido and is antidepressant. It also is an > SSRE (selective serotonin reuptake enhancer) so it might > correct the effects of an SSRI (selective serotonin > reuptake inhibatior). > -Bupropion is often used for the treatment of SSRI-induced > sexual dysfunction. > -other medicaments > -in which order should I try medicaments to minimize risks. > > THANKS A LOT FOR YOU RESPONSES > > thanks also for creating this mailing-list and if you > need some help tell me. > > Greetings from Luxembourg > > Jean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Hello Survivor Thank you very much for your answer. I also think my 1st doctor mas incompetent, that's why I changed the doctor. The second doctor may be not more competent, but he is a nice guy,he is not arrogant, explains his decisions and it is possible to discuss with him. He also does not enjoy the huge power he has to make people more or less sick. I have 2 nice sisters but they also are doctors and when I was in a bad condition (but before I took the meds) they enjoyed some kind of superiority they suddenly gained, however the advice they gave me was bullshit.I Happyness from pills is just like artifical flowers, I don't like that. I prefer beeing sad, but since I took this shit I cannot be sad anymore. It probably is also very reasonable to complety give up medicaments. I might try bupropion and then if it does not help stablon, and then just completely stop. Regards and thanks Jean > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > HERE iS MY STORY: (Sorry but it is long) > > > > 2 years ago I was heavily mobbed at work, and got suicidal > > thoughts, very heavy headaches, a kind of paralyzing sadness > > that felt like having ice in the head, I was very nervous, angry, ... > > but I was still feeling " normal " , able to enjoy sports, beeing > > with friends, reading, beeing horny ... > > > > I went to the doctor and he gave me Seroxat (Praxil, a SSRI), I > > hesitated but I took it, as there are almost any bad side-effects > > written on the Patient information leaflet. My doctor also told me > > just take it, it will make you feel good, and even though I > > insisted he didn't tell me of any side effects or withdrawal > > problems. > > > > One week later I suddenly felt very bad, heard a " SSSSSS " noise, > > felt like a phosphor bomb exploded in my head (which is 100 times > > worse than the ice feeling in the head), could not feel any more > > feelings, felt like having drunk 3 bottles of wine, was unable to > > concentrate, cooridinate movements well, and got completely impotent, > > extremely anxious, and was feeling like not beeing myself anymore. > > > > After 1 month I stopped Seroxat, but my condition worsened > > and even though beeing able to have orgasms I didn't enjoy them > > anymore. > > > > After 2 months, I was terrified to death, thought I was dying, > > cound not command my body or mind to do whatever effort, got even > > afraid of my own movements and felt very strange seeing myself in > > the mirror. I went to the hospital and the doctor told me I had > > schizophrenia. > > > > During 16 months I was treatened for schiozophrenia (Risperdal), > > and took another SSRI (Cipramil) on the advice of my new doctor (I > > told him I had taken Seroxat). I tolerated these medicaments, > > although Riperdal makes you feel very tired, unable to ejaculate, > > and triples you apetite (I gained 25 kg). With the time doing its > > job my condition improved, with the luck I lacked during the 5 > > years before I found a good job and a nice girlfriend. > > > > One month ago I threw the medicaments away, My condition > > even improved a little bit more, and I lost 8 kg. I think > > I neither had a classical depression nor schizophrenia (I > > had no hallucinations, except the " SSSSSSSSS " noise which > > is not a hallucination). > > > > However I still feel very strange, like having much less > > emotions than 3 years ago, I don't enjoy efforts of the body > > and the mind anymore (I was a mathematician and I did athletics), > > my libido is only 15% of the huge libido I once had. I am also > > very anxious. I cannot continue living like this for 5 more years > > > > HERE IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, > > > > -are there many people who have similar experiences ? > > (I fond similar stories in the messages but maybe not all) > > -given my story what do you think do I suffer from > > (schizophrenia, depression, persistent SSRI side effects, ...) > > -which medicaments can I try out to improve my mental health > > -Stablon (tianeptine), my doctor says it is almost never > > prescribed but he says it has no risks. It is anxiolytic, > > may improve libido and is antidepressant. It also is an > > SSRE (selective serotonin reuptake enhancer) so it might > > correct the effects of an SSRI (selective serotonin > > reuptake inhibatior). > > -Bupropion is often used for the treatment of SSRI-induced > > sexual dysfunction. > > -other medicaments > > -in which order should I try medicaments to minimize risks. > > > > THANKS A LOT FOR YOU RESPONSES > > > > thanks also for creating this mailing-list and if you > > need some help tell me. > > > > Greetings from Luxembourg > > > > Jean > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Most of your serotonin is found in your digestive tract NOT Brain I stress the Serotonin Talk from Doctors is just a Theory there are No Blood Tests or Scans to currently validate it. Browne --- jonny_man19 wrote: > Hello Survivor > > Thank you very much for your answer. > I also think my 1st doctor mas incompetent, > that's why I changed the doctor. The second > doctor may be not more competent, but he is > a nice guy,he is not arrogant, explains his > decisions and it is possible to discuss with him. > He also does not enjoy the huge power he has to > make people more or less sick. I have 2 nice sisters > but they also are doctors and when I was in a bad > condition (but before I took the meds) they enjoyed > some kind of superiority they suddenly gained, > however > the advice they gave me was bullshit.I > > Happyness from pills is just like artifical flowers, > I don't like that. I prefer beeing sad, but since > I took this shit I cannot be sad anymore. > It probably is also very reasonable to complety > give up medicaments. I might try bupropion and then > if it does not help stablon, and then just > completely stop. > > Regards and thanks > > Jean > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > HERE iS MY STORY: (Sorry but it is long) > > > > > > 2 years ago I was heavily mobbed at work, and > got suicidal > > > thoughts, very heavy headaches, a kind of > paralyzing sadness > > > that felt like having ice in the head, I was > very nervous, angry, ... > > > but I was still feeling " normal " , able to enjoy > sports, beeing > > > with friends, reading, beeing horny ... > > > > > > I went to the doctor and he gave me Seroxat > (Praxil, a SSRI), I > > > hesitated but I took it, as there are almost any > bad side-effects > > > written on the Patient information leaflet. My > doctor also told me > > > just take it, it will make you feel good, and > even though I > > > insisted he didn't tell me of any side effects > or withdrawal > > > problems. > > > > > > One week later I suddenly felt very bad, > heard a " SSSSSS " noise, > > > felt like a phosphor bomb exploded in my head > (which is 100 times > > > worse than the ice feeling in the head), could > not feel any more > > > feelings, felt like having drunk 3 bottles of > wine, was unable to > > > concentrate, cooridinate movements well, and got > completely impotent, > > > extremely anxious, and was feeling like not > beeing myself anymore. > > > > > > After 1 month I stopped Seroxat, but my > condition worsened > > > and even though beeing able to have orgasms I > didn't enjoy them > > > anymore. > > > > > > After 2 months, I was terrified to death, > thought I was dying, > > > cound not command my body or mind to do whatever > effort, got even > > > afraid of my own movements and felt very strange > seeing myself in > > > the mirror. I went to the hospital and the > doctor told me I had > > > schizophrenia. > > > > > > During 16 months I was treatened for > schiozophrenia (Risperdal), > > > and took another SSRI (Cipramil) on the advice > of my new doctor (I > > > told him I had taken Seroxat). I tolerated these > medicaments, > > > although Riperdal makes you feel very tired, > unable to ejaculate, > > > and triples you apetite (I gained 25 kg). With > the time doing its > > > job my condition improved, with the luck I > lacked during the 5 > > > years before I found a good job and a nice > girlfriend. > > > > > > One month ago I threw the medicaments away, My > condition > > > even improved a little bit more, and I lost 8 > kg. I think > > > I neither had a classical depression nor > schizophrenia (I > > > had no hallucinations, except the " SSSSSSSSS " > noise which > > > is not a hallucination). > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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