Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 It's true that most people are so dumb that they don't kow what an SSRI is. But for now the term will remian as PSSD. I might change it eventually to PASD - Post Antidepresaant Sexual Dysfunction. " Antidepressant Reproductive Damage " or ARP doesn't really describe accurately what we have. It sounds unscientific and, if anything, like some kind of infertility syndrome rather than sexual dysfunction. In the end it doesn't really matter. The word will get out eventually. Vornan In SSRIsex , " brianbeezly " wrote: > > * a lot more people have it than you think. they don't know about it. > PSSD is not a good name for this. When they search the internet, > they have no clue to type in anything regarding an SSRI. I spent > years searching for a name to this until one day I typed in " permanent > impotence " which led me here. > > I really like the name, ARP, anti-depressant reproductive damage. I > really like that name. ARP. it's so much better. That's just my > opinion. > > How do I know a lot of people have it? I typed a flyer on Craigslist > about it and a bunch of people responded. They had no clue what the > hell PSSD was. You already know that their doctors are denying it to > them. > > ARP. ARP. ARP. Anti-depressant Reproductive Damage. A lot of > people are looking for this site, but are missing it because they're > typing in Anti-Depressant. > > Keep the name simple. More accurate and more accessible. It's just > my opinion, but I guarantee the site would have five times the amount > of members which would mean thousands more people spreading the word. > > ARP, Antidepressant Reproductive Damage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Does anyone know if it actually causes infertility in women? I never bore any children after anti-depressants, but i never tried or wanted to,either. For it to be called reproductive damage, wouldnt it have to cause at least diminished fertility in women as well? I know it does in fish--so maybe it DOES. Does anyone know?? I have a male friend who has taken many SSRI's and he and his wife have tried to get pregnant for years--however--i dont know that he is infertile or if she is. lisa --- brianbeezly wrote: > * a lot more people have it than you think. they > don't know about it. > PSSD is not a good name for this. When they search > the internet, > they have no clue to type in anything regarding an > SSRI. I spent > years searching for a name to this until one day I > typed in " permanent > impotence " which led me here. > > I really like the name, ARP, anti-depressant > reproductive damage. I > really like that name. ARP. it's so much better. > That's just my > opinion. > > How do I know a lot of people have it? I typed a > flyer on Craigslist > about it and a bunch of people responded. They had > no clue what the > hell PSSD was. You already know that their doctors > are denying it to > them. > > ARP. ARP. ARP. Anti-depressant Reproductive > Damage. A lot of > people are looking for this site, but are missing it > because they're > typing in Anti-Depressant. > > Keep the name simple. More accurate and more > accessible. It's just > my opinion, but I guarantee the site would have five > times the amount > of members which would mean thousands more people > spreading the word. > > ARP, Antidepressant Reproductive Damage. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 , you brought up a great point. A very great one. I have asked this question to myself a million times. Is a woman infertile if she suffers from PSSD. Honestly, I think that she does suffer from infertility and the inability to have a baby. Remember that the reproductive system is not just the womb and where a baby is generated within the woman's body. The reproductive system is part of a man's body too, everything from the brain's reproductive epicenter to the reproductive nerves to the reproductive organs. Together, a man and a woman make up the whole of a reproductive system. > > > * a lot more people have it than you think. they > > don't know about it. > > PSSD is not a good name for this. When they search > > the internet, > > they have no clue to type in anything regarding an > > SSRI. I spent > > years searching for a name to this until one day I > > typed in " permanent > > impotence " which led me here. > > > > I really like the name, ARP, anti-depressant > > reproductive damage. I > > really like that name. ARP. it's so much better. > > That's just my > > opinion. > > > > How do I know a lot of people have it? I typed a > > flyer on Craigslist > > about it and a bunch of people responded. They had > > no clue what the > > hell PSSD was. You already know that their doctors > > are denying it to > > them. > > > > ARP. ARP. ARP. Anti-depressant Reproductive > > Damage. A lot of > > people are looking for this site, but are missing it > > because they're > > typing in Anti-Depressant. > > > > Keep the name simple. More accurate and more > > accessible. It's just > > my opinion, but I guarantee the site would have five > > times the amount > > of members which would mean thousands more people > > spreading the word. > > > > ARP, Antidepressant Reproductive Damage. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 There's no reason to name it until we know what exactly it is... Shay brianbeezly wrote: > > * a lot more people have it than you think. they don't know about it. > PSSD is not a good name for this. When they search the internet, > they have no clue to type in anything regarding an SSRI. I spent > years searching for a name to this until one day I typed in " permanent > impotence " which led me here. > > I really like the name, ARP, anti-depressant reproductive damage. I > really like that name. ARP. it's so much better. That's just my > opinion. > > How do I know a lot of people have it? I typed a flyer on Craigslist > about it and a bunch of people responded. They had no clue what the > hell PSSD was. You already know that their doctors are denying it to > them. > > ARP. ARP. ARP. Anti-depressant Reproductive Damage. A lot of > people are looking for this site, but are missing it because they're > typing in Anti-Depressant. > > Keep the name simple. More accurate and more accessible. It's just > my opinion, but I guarantee the site would have five times the amount > of members which would mean thousands more people spreading the word. > > ARP, Antidepressant Reproductive Damage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 I have already named it. Vornan > > > > * a lot more people have it than you think. they don't know about it. > > PSSD is not a good name for this. When they search the internet, > > they have no clue to type in anything regarding an SSRI. I spent > > years searching for a name to this until one day I typed in " permanent > > impotence " which led me here. > > > > I really like the name, ARP, anti-depressant reproductive damage. I > > really like that name. ARP. it's so much better. That's just my > > opinion. > > > > How do I know a lot of people have it? I typed a flyer on Craigslist > > about it and a bunch of people responded. They had no clue what the > > hell PSSD was. You already know that their doctors are denying it to > > them. > > > > ARP. ARP. ARP. Anti-depressant Reproductive Damage. A lot of > > people are looking for this site, but are missing it because they're > > typing in Anti-Depressant. > > > > Keep the name simple. More accurate and more accessible. It's just > > my opinion, but I guarantee the site would have five times the amount > > of members which would mean thousands more people spreading the word. > > > > ARP, Antidepressant Reproductive Damage. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 > , you brought up a great point. A very great one. I have asked > this question to myself a million times. Is a woman infertile if she > suffers from PSSD. Honestly, I think that she does suffer from infertility and the inability to have a baby. > > Remember that the reproductive system is not just the womb and where a > baby is generated within the woman's body. The reproductive system is > part of a man's body too, everything from the brain's reproductive > epicenter to the reproductive nerves to the reproductive organs. > Together, a man and a woman make up the whole of a reproductive system. Sexual function is not the same thing as reproductive function. Reproduction need not involve sex, and sexual function usually has nothing at all to do with reproduction. Therefore, it would be highly inaccurate accurate to use the word " reproductive " in the context of this syndrome. And infertility in the medical sense involves the production and viability of gametes, not their delivery, so equating PSSD with infertility just confuses the issue. River Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 The education level of the members on this forum seems above average, especially when you realize that many of us have not English as their native language. That suggests that a large crowd of less educated PSSD- patients is not reached with this forum. We can speculate about their number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 You impressed me . Thank you. I hope reading a lot more from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 BTW, damage starts with a D not a P. > ARP, Antidepressant Reproductive Damage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 This is an interesting topic. Haven't there been reports of women who recovered from PSSD after they gave birth? > > > * a lot more people have it than you think. they > > don't know about it. > > PSSD is not a good name for this. When they search > > the internet, > > they have no clue to type in anything regarding an > > SSRI. I spent > > years searching for a name to this until one day I > > typed in " permanent > > impotence " which led me here. > > > > I really like the name, ARP, anti-depressant > > reproductive damage. I > > really like that name. ARP. it's so much better. > > That's just my > > opinion. > > > > How do I know a lot of people have it? I typed a > > flyer on Craigslist > > about it and a bunch of people responded. They had > > no clue what the > > hell PSSD was. You already know that their doctors > > are denying it to > > them. > > > > ARP. ARP. ARP. Anti-depressant Reproductive > > Damage. A lot of > > people are looking for this site, but are missing it > > because they're > > typing in Anti-Depressant. > > > > Keep the name simple. More accurate and more > > accessible. It's just > > my opinion, but I guarantee the site would have five > > times the amount > > of members which would mean thousands more people > > spreading the word. > > > > ARP, Antidepressant Reproductive Damage. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 > > The education level of the members on this forum seems above average, > especially when you realize that many of us have not English as their > native language. That suggests that a large crowd of less educated PSSD- > patients is not reached with this forum. We can speculate about their > number. > This is an interesting point. 543 million people drugged by psychiatry. This group only has 1300 members. How could we help fill this gap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Qualitative findings are sketchy still---but in general, its said that 60% of ppl taking SSRI's experience PSSD, that can linger for months, years, or indefinitely after discontinuation of SSRI. I'm sure you've seen this---but wiki is updated by users. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSSD I took Prozac for 6 months and stopped it altogether because of the fear of sexual dysfunction. My libido is still lower probably as I still suffer from a mild form of depression and admittedly, my exercise routine and diet is crap. Still, although I have no problem getting an erection, have sensation, and can orgasm, it's still not as intense or pleasureable as it used to be and my ejaculate pressure & volume are less. Are you talking this over with your doctor? Subject: How common is PSSD?To: SSRIsex Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 1:24 AM Hi everyone,I'm new here and wanted to share my story if you will..I've been on Zoloft for about 3 - 4 years now for OCD, ranging indose from 50mg to 150mg, though right now I'm at 75mg. I haveexperienced desensitization of the penis and inability to ejaculate inthe past year or two and only recently did I realize this is a causefor concern.. seeing this group frightens me.. it makes it seem likeSSRIs cause PSSD in tons of people!! anyway.. are the chancesreally high that I would retain my sexual side effects after stoppingthe medication should I choose to do so? .. Recently I lowered my dose from 100mg to 75mg about 2.5 weeks ago andhaven't really noticed much effect in terms of sexual side effects. Isthere a point at which I should start to notice the sensitivity and soforth bounce back ? ... at 50mg or so? or does this vary for variouspeople?I really wish I had tapered off the Zoloft a long time ago because Idon't want to have these side effects =(Thanks everyone for your support! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Thanks, though I must say your situation frightens me. 3 years and very little improvement?? >_< Were you on Zoloft before Prozac? Thing is, I hesitate to get off the meds entirely because I need to be able to concentrate on my studies and the OCD thoughts can be very intrusive sometimes. I am entering college in the fall and will be adjusting to a new environment altogether with new study schedules and meeting new people and all that. It's kind of a high stress environment and might trigger more intrusive OCD symptoms in which the Zoloft helps me to some extent. Also, without the Zoloft -- or even on lower doses -- I am sometimes kind of moody or bummed out for no reason.. I can kind of overcome it but I generally don't feel like doing so. Maybe mild depression (but I started on the meds for OCD, not for depression so I'm not really too concerned about that) Thanks everyone for your replies.. I wonder if the longer one uses the drug the less chance of " recovery " I started when I was 14 or 15 which would be about three years ago and I hope I didn't cause some irreversible damage (naturally I wasn't really concerned with the abstract term of " sexual side effects " at that time). > > > > Thanks everyone for your replies. That 60% figure worries me though.. > > where did you get it and what is it referring to -- percentage of > > people who have sexual side effects while on SSRIs or of people who > > have persisting sexual side effects after discontinuing them? > > > > I should have been clearer in the first post btw that I'm not sure if > > the sexual side effects only started a year or two after I started the > > meds. In fact they probably started much earlier but I wasn't really > > thinking about sex at the time so I didn't notice. > > > > Is it possible that if i were to lower to 50 or switch to prozac then > > the side effects might diminish? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I stopped taking the 50mg after six days. I had PSSD for months. I had no sex drive. No arousal from looking at women. I did not " follow treatment " That simply didn't make any sense to me. There was no medical reason why I was given the drug in the first place. It was not even recommended by my doctor. I was coerced by terror tactics by a corrupt nurse while the doctor was away. A few months after stopping I experienced side effects like the out-of-character severe urge to heavily drink hard liquor. (this is a documented side effect caused by blockage of blood sugar regulation) One day a neighbor knocked on my door and convinced me to go to the bar with him for social connection. We were having a beer and I saw a hot blond woman and instantly felt very powerful emotional and sexual energy. I managed to have a relationship with the woman for a few months and the whole time my libido was present again and getting better. I felt very strongly in love with her and she was extremely attractive to me. One thing I know is that having one or two beers triggers an increase in dopamine. The social and sexual experience helped rewire my brain back to a normal state. I was also very physically active with work. I think the combination of these things helped me. > > > > It is hard to say what might happen. For me Zoloft knocked out my > > sexuality on day one at 50mg. > > From your story it took 2 or 3 years for you to run into that trouble. > > I don't know of any study's to show if people who are less sensitive > > recover better than people who are more sensitive. > > The only way to know for yourself is to stop taking these drugs and > > wait and see. If you do that, you will also want to know about natural > > alternatives for depression, like SAM-E and exercise. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 A quick search on google found this. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3804/is_200207/ai_n9114293 Sexual dysfunction related to SSRIs, although far from rare, remains highly unrecognized. Comparing statistics from the Physician's Desk Reference (PDR) (2002) to a number of studies supports this assertion. The PDR indicates 2% to 16% of patients taking SSRIs experience sexual dysfunction, while other sources suggest rates of 50%, 70%, or even 90% (Clayton et al., 2001; Ferguson, 2001; Hirschfeld, 1999; Keltner & Folks, 2001). One explanation for disparities between classic references such as the PDR and other sources centers on the tendency of clients to not volunteer information of such a sensitive nature. However, when directly queried about such matters, there is a sharp increase in reports of sexual dysfunction. If you find a source that says 60 percent I'd like to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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