Re: Letter from the Psychiatrist who Ruined My Life

[Guest guest]

BTW, , calling people " Limp Lynch " or whatever will not be

tolerated in this forum. Do that again and you're out for good. We

are here to help each other, not antagonize.

Vornan

> > > >

> > > > Minorities as white people call them. Really the majority.

Go to

> > > > almost any major place in America and white people are the

minority.

> > > > Why are minorities called minorities?

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, all my black and hispanic friends had never even

heard of an

> > > > anti-depressant until I started using them. I don't think too

many

> > > > black or hispanic people even use psychiatric drugs.

> > > >

> > > > As my friend Jayvon used to say, Medication in the hood is

weed and

> > > > alcohal. I wish I had taken his advice.

> > > >

> > > > On top of that, all my black and hispanic friends are deep in

touch

> > > > with family and friends and rely on them for emotional

support. not

> > > > some pills. I lived in a white family. I never knew anybody

in my

> > > > family.

> > > >

> > > > White people are stopping themselves from breeding and basic

sexual

> > > > needs and its kind of funny. I'm a victim of my own white

family in

> > > > regards to PSSD.

> > > >

> > > > I guarantee you that 95% of the people in this group are

white.

> > > >

> > > > It's funny how the only people who listen to me about PSSD

are the

> > > > people you would never expect. I just had a conversation

about it

> > > > with a really cool dude from around the way who had been

locked

> up in

> > > > prison. He wasn't surprised about it. He didn't think I was

lying.

> > > > He said it was " the man's fault for making these drugs and

> making them

> > > > seem harmless. " He understands the unjustices in America. I

> guarantee

> > > > you that he was locked up for a really dumb reason.

> > > >

> > > > To understand PSSD, you have to understand that there's an

> underbelly

> > > > of America that a lot of white people don't want to look at.

That

> > > > same trust in America that a lot of white people have is what

is

> > > > killing themselves when they take this medication.

> > > >

> > > > I should be a preacher. As a matter of fact, I think that's my

> calling

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Vornan, please do not be offended by me calling him Limp Lynch. Hell,

my own nickname is Limpboy now. You gotta put it out there in the

open and just laugh about it. Making fun of each other over this is

going to help get through the pain. That's how it is in the hood too.

You just make fun of people about stuff and it clears out all of the

built up feelings. For example, one of my friend's names is Fat Mike.

It's just the way things are done in the hood. If you can take it,

then you can survive.

> > > > >

> > > > > Minorities as white people call them. Really the majority.

> Go to

> > > > > almost any major place in America and white people are the

> minority.

> > > > > Why are minorities called minorities?

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway, all my black and hispanic friends had never even

> heard of an

> > > > > anti-depressant until I started using them. I don't think too

> many

> > > > > black or hispanic people even use psychiatric drugs.

> > > > >

> > > > > As my friend Jayvon used to say, Medication in the hood is

> weed and

> > > > > alcohal. I wish I had taken his advice.

> > > > >

> > > > > On top of that, all my black and hispanic friends are deep in

> touch

> > > > > with family and friends and rely on them for emotional

> support. not

> > > > > some pills. I lived in a white family. I never knew anybody

> in my

> > > > > family.

> > > > >

> > > > > White people are stopping themselves from breeding and basic

> sexual

> > > > > needs and its kind of funny. I'm a victim of my own white

> family in

> > > > > regards to PSSD.

> > > > >

> > > > > I guarantee you that 95% of the people in this group are

> white.

> > > > >

> > > > > It's funny how the only people who listen to me about PSSD

> are the

> > > > > people you would never expect. I just had a conversation

> about it

> > > > > with a really cool dude from around the way who had been

> locked

> > up in

> > > > > prison. He wasn't surprised about it. He didn't think I was

> lying.

> > > > > He said it was " the man's fault for making these drugs and

> > making them

> > > > > seem harmless. " He understands the unjustices in America. I

> > guarantee

> > > > > you that he was locked up for a really dumb reason.

> > > > >

> > > > > To understand PSSD, you have to understand that there's an

> > underbelly

> > > > > of America that a lot of white people don't want to look at.

> That

> > > > > same trust in America that a lot of white people have is what

> is

> > > > > killing themselves when they take this medication.

> > > > >

> > > > > I should be a preacher. As a matter of fact, I think that's my

> > calling

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I understand what you mean - the humor and so on. But it deosn't

really work well on an internet forum. It's not the same as chatting

and joking with someone on the street. It's inappropraite for this

medium.

By the way, I agree with a lot of things you say generally, but you

need to find a better way to express yourself ar you'll just drive

people away.

Vornan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Minorities as white people call them. Really the

majority.

> > Go to

> > > > > > almost any major place in America and white people are

the

> > minority.

> > > > > > Why are minorities called minorities?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anyway, all my black and hispanic friends had never even

> > heard of an

> > > > > > anti-depressant until I started using them. I don't think

too

> > many

> > > > > > black or hispanic people even use psychiatric drugs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As my friend Jayvon used to say, Medication in the hood

is

> > weed and

> > > > > > alcohal. I wish I had taken his advice.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On top of that, all my black and hispanic friends are

deep in

> > touch

> > > > > > with family and friends and rely on them for emotional

> > support. not

> > > > > > some pills. I lived in a white family. I never knew

anybody

> > in my

> > > > > > family.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > White people are stopping themselves from breeding and

basic

> > sexual

> > > > > > needs and its kind of funny. I'm a victim of my own white

> > family in

> > > > > > regards to PSSD.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I guarantee you that 95% of the people in this group are

> > white.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's funny how the only people who listen to me about

PSSD

> > are the

> > > > > > people you would never expect. I just had a conversation

> > about it

> > > > > > with a really cool dude from around the way who had been

> > locked

> > > up in

> > > > > > prison. He wasn't surprised about it. He didn't think I

was

> > lying.

> > > > > > He said it was " the man's fault for making these drugs and

> > > making them

> > > > > > seem harmless. " He understands the unjustices in America.

I

> > > guarantee

> > > > > > you that he was locked up for a really dumb reason.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To understand PSSD, you have to understand that there's an

> > > underbelly

> > > > > > of America that a lot of white people don't want to look

at.

> > That

> > > > > > same trust in America that a lot of white people have is

what

> > is

> > > > > > killing themselves when they take this medication.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I should be a preacher. As a matter of fact, I think

that's my

> > > calling

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I agree. A typical psychiatrist wouldn't know about pssd. It is the fda's fault more than anything. They are the ones who approve the drugs the psychiatrists more then anything decide on what to prescribe to who. They aren't very involved in the process of approving meds, if at all. With that said, aside from pssd, many psychiatrists I have confronted were ignorant of the severe withdrawal that can be entailed in these drugs. SSRI's encompass suicidal idealation, the potential for mania, and many other serious consequences. When I was prescribed paxil I was never told that there was a possibility that I would be overcome with any of these effects ,including the possibility of being dependent on it for the rest of my life like many people are currently. I was also never told that the efficacy of the drugs I was taken wasn't proven in children under 18, and that it had been in fact banned in many other countries under the exact circumstance I was using it under. What about how exercise, or placebo at times equaled the efficacy of antidepressants? How many people here would have taken theses drugs if they knew these facts even without pssd? The psychiatrists can be blamed for turning a serious treatment for a serious problem into the equivalent of picking up some advil. These drugs should be taken seriously and they aren't, they aren't prescribed when justified. To that I would blame both the drug companies and the psychiatrists who go along with it. Look at all the drug advertising, behavior like this is illegal in many other countries and would be frowned upon by credible professionals. The drug companies have targeted the very profitable group that are not feeling so very depressed, but just have a mild, possible condition. They have targeted that group for profit and have completely undermined the process of proper diagnosis, and just sheer responsibility.

Guys I'm from Canada and docs dont get paid depending on meds they

prescribe. There is none of that shit here. I've perhaps 20 docs,

urologists, psychs, regular docs, you name it. DOCS (at least in

Canada) are not lying about knowledge of PSSD. THEY DONT KNOW IT

EXISTS! STOP BLAIMING THE DOCS! They dont get plessure by medically

castrating you. I'm sick and tired of posts blaming docs. Blame the

FDA who approved the drugs or the pharmceutical co.'s.

Antidepressants are the most or top 3 prescribed meds in Canada and

probably U.S. Dont you think if this was common it would be all over

the place. Dont give me that shit that people are too shy to tell

docs. THEIR DICKS ARE NOT WORKING PROPERLY, trust me if there is one

thing a man would go see a doc for, it would be for his dick. Docs

dont get satisfaction giving us pssd. THEY ARE NOT HIDING SHIT, FOR

THE LAST TIME THEY DONT KNOW ABOUT IT. We should consider how really

common our conditions are.

> >

> > Minorities as white people call them. Really the majority. Go

to

> > almost any major place in America and white people are the

minority.

> > Why are minorities called minorities?

> >

> > Anyway, all my black and hispanic friends had never even heard

of an

> > anti-depressant until I started using them. I don't think too

many

> > black or hispanic people even use psychiatric drugs.

> >

> > As my friend Jayvon used to say, Medication in the hood is weed

and

> > alcohal. I wish I had taken his advice.

> >

> > On top of that, all my black and hispanic friends are deep in

touch

> > with family and friends and rely on them for emotional support.

not

> > some pills. I lived in a white family. I never knew anybody in my

> > family.

> >

> > White people are stopping themselves from breeding and basic

sexual

> > needs and its kind of funny. I'm a victim of my own white family

in

> > regards to PSSD.

> >

> > I guarantee you that 95% of the people in this group are white.

> >

> > It's funny how the only people who listen to me about PSSD are

the

> > people you would never expect. I just had a conversation about it

> > with a really cool dude from around the way who had been locked

up in

> > prison. He wasn't surprised about it. He didn't think I was

lying.

> > He said it was " the man's fault for making these drugs and

making them

> > seem harmless. " He understands the unjustices in America. I

guarantee

> > you that he was locked up for a really dumb reason.

> >

> > To understand PSSD, you have to understand that there's an

underbelly

> > of America that a lot of white people don't want to look at. That

> > same trust in America that a lot of white people have is what is

> > killing themselves when they take this medication.

> >

> > I should be a preacher. As a matter of fact, I think that's my

calling

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

1. How is that relevant 2. I know at least depression penetrates all economic and racial barriers, it doesn't discriminate. This is probably with many other diagnosis as well. A black person is just as likely to get diagnosed and be medicated as a white person. Stop trying to make this issue into one about race because it isn't.

, I am not saying that whites are trying to kill blacks. I'm

saying that culturally, white people are about 50X more likely to take

anti-depressants than blacks and are killing themselves!!!!

> > >

> > > Minorities as white people call them. Really the majority. Go to

> > > almost any major place in America and white people are the minority.

> > > Why are minorities called minorities?

> > >

> > > Anyway, all my black and hispanic friends had never even heard of an

> > > anti-depressant until I started using them. I don't think too many

> > > black or hispanic people even use psychiatric drugs.

> > >

> > > As my friend Jayvon used to say, Medication in the hood is weed and

> > > alcohal. I wish I had taken his advice.

> > >

> > > On top of that, all my black and hispanic friends are deep in touch

> > > with family and friends and rely on them for emotional support. not

> > > some pills. I lived in a white family. I never knew anybody in my

> > > family.

> > >

> > > White people are stopping themselves from breeding and basic sexual

> > > needs and its kind of funny. I'm a victim of my own white family in

> > > regards to PSSD.

> > >

> > > I guarantee you that 95% of the people in this group are white.

> > >

> > > It's funny how the only people who listen to me about PSSD are the

> > > people you would never expect. I just had a conversation about it

> > > with a really cool dude from around the way who had been locked

up in

> > > prison. He wasn't surprised about it. He didn't think I was lying.

> > > He said it was " the man's fault for making these drugs and

making them

> > > seem harmless. " He understands the unjustices in America. I

guarantee

> > > you that he was locked up for a really dumb reason.

> > >

> > > To understand PSSD, you have to understand that there's an

underbelly

> > > of America that a lot of white people don't want to look at. That

> > > same trust in America that a lot of white people have is what is

> > > killing themselves when they take this medication.

> > >

> > > I should be a preacher. As a matter of fact, I think that's my

calling

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don't agree at all. As I've said many times here: most

psychiatrists have had patietents complain of persistent sexual

dysfunction after quitting drugs, but they don't believe them. They

attribute it to psychological causes. I'm sick and tired of

explaining this. Anybody with half a brain some sensitivity and

empathy and who is seeing a fair number of patients would have

recognized PSSD a long, *long* time time ago. The suicidal

tendencies induced by SSRIs as well. But most shrinks just don't

care enough about their patients.

Vornan

> > > >

> > > > Minorities as white people call them. Really the majority. Go

> > to

> > > > almost any major place in America and white people are the

> > minority.

> > > > Why are minorities called minorities?

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, all my black and hispanic friends had never even heard

> > of an

> > > > anti-depressant until I started using them. I don't think too

> > many

> > > > black or hispanic people even use psychiatric drugs.

> > > >

> > > > As my friend Jayvon used to say, Medication in the hood is

weed

> > and

> > > > alcohal. I wish I had taken his advice.

> > > >

> > > > On top of that, all my black and hispanic friends are deep in

> > touch

> > > > with family and friends and rely on them for emotional

support.

> > not

> > > > some pills. I lived in a white family. I never knew anybody

in my

> > > > family.

> > > >

> > > > White people are stopping themselves from breeding and basic

> > sexual

> > > > needs and its kind of funny. I'm a victim of my own white

family

> > in

> > > > regards to PSSD.

> > > >

> > > > I guarantee you that 95% of the people in this group are

white.

> > > >

> > > > It's funny how the only people who listen to me about PSSD are

> > the

> > > > people you would never expect. I just had a conversation

about it

> > > > with a really cool dude from around the way who had been

locked

> > up in

> > > > prison. He wasn't surprised about it. He didn't think I was

> > lying.

> > > > He said it was " the man's fault for making these drugs and

> > making them

> > > > seem harmless. " He understands the unjustices in America. I

> > guarantee

> > > > you that he was locked up for a really dumb reason.

> > > >

> > > > To understand PSSD, you have to understand that there's an

> > underbelly

> > > > of America that a lot of white people don't want to look at.

That

> > > > same trust in America that a lot of white people have is what

is

> > > > killing themselves when they take this medication.

> > > >

> > > > I should be a preacher. As a matter of fact, I think that's my

> > calling

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Mr. Lynch, nice to hear from you once again buddy. All I'm saying is

that race which usually leads into culture which definitely plays a

huge part in who is taking psychiatric medication. It is much less

common in black or latino culture to take or be placed on

antidepressant medication, while in white culture it is more

acceptable. That is all that I'm saying.

> > > > >

> > > > > Minorities as white people call them. Really the majority. Go to

> > > > > almost any major place in America and white people are the

minority.

> > > > > Why are minorities called minorities?

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway, all my black and hispanic friends had never even

heard of an

> > > > > anti-depressant until I started using them. I don't think

too many

> > > > > black or hispanic people even use psychiatric drugs.

> > > > >

> > > > > As my friend Jayvon used to say, Medication in the hood is

weed and

> > > > > alcohal. I wish I had taken his advice.

> > > > >

> > > > > On top of that, all my black and hispanic friends are deep

in touch

> > > > > with family and friends and rely on them for emotional

support. not

> > > > > some pills. I lived in a white family. I never knew anybody

in my

> > > > > family.

> > > > >

> > > > > White people are stopping themselves from breeding and basic

sexual

> > > > > needs and its kind of funny. I'm a victim of my own white

family in

> > > > > regards to PSSD.

> > > > >

> > > > > I guarantee you that 95% of the people in this group are white.

> > > > >

> > > > > It's funny how the only people who listen to me about PSSD

are the

> > > > > people you would never expect. I just had a conversation

about it

> > > > > with a really cool dude from around the way who had been locked

> > up in

> > > > > prison. He wasn't surprised about it. He didn't think I was

lying.

> > > > > He said it was " the man's fault for making these drugs and

> > making them

> > > > > seem harmless. " He understands the unjustices in America. I

> > guarantee

> > > > > you that he was locked up for a really dumb reason.

> > > > >

> > > > > To understand PSSD, you have to understand that there's an

> > underbelly

> > > > > of America that a lot of white people don't want to look at.

That

> > > > > same trust in America that a lot of white people have is what is

> > > > > killing themselves when they take this medication.

> > > > >

> > > > > I should be a preacher. As a matter of fact, I think that's my

> > calling

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

They hand out SSRI's like candy. Feeling blue? Feeling

anxious? here, try this " happy " pill. I cant tell you

how many people i know who have had their doctor

prescribe an SSRI after a traumatic

experience--REACTIVE depression---exactly what

anti-depressants are NOT for. Reactive depression from

a traumatic is something people are supposed to have.

Coping after is the way we get through and over

things, its not supposed to be dulled by medication,

but even family doctors pass it out to anyone. I went

through at least 5 or 6 different SSRI's for ANXIETY,

all of which were ineffective but big money earners

from being non generic. Xanax cured me and returned my

life to normal and has had little in the way of side

effects--especially when compared to SSRI's--yet they

hardly prescribe them--they are generic and

inexpensive, and doctors are terrified you are going

to become a pill popping, crazy drug addict! So here's

an SSRI instead. Dumb.

lisa

--- mike Lynch wrote:

> I agree. A typical psychiatrist wouldn't know about

> pssd. It is the fda's

> fault more than anything. They are the ones who

> approve the drugs the

> psychiatrists more then anything decide on what to

> prescribe to who. They

> aren't very involved in the process of approving

> meds, if at all.

>

> With that said, aside from pssd, many psychiatrists

> I have confronted were

> ignorant of the severe withdrawal that can be

> entailed in these drugs.

> SSRI's encompass suicidal idealation, the potential

> for mania, and many

> other serious consequences. When I was prescribed

> paxil I was never told

> that there was a possibility that I would be

> overcome with any of these

> effects ,including the possibility of being

> dependent on it for the rest of

> my life like many people are currently. I was also

> never told that the

> efficacy of the drugs I was taken wasn't proven in

> children under 18, and

> that it had been in fact banned in many other

> countries under the exact

> circumstance I was using it under. What about how

> exercise, or placebo at

> times equaled the efficacy of antidepressants?

>

> How many people here would have taken theses drugs

> if they knew these facts

> even without pssd? The psychiatrists can be blamed

> for turning a serious

> treatment for a serious problem into the equivalent

> of picking up some

> advil. These drugs should be taken seriously and

> they aren't, they aren't

> prescribed when justified. To that I would blame

> both the drug companies and

> the psychiatrists who go along with it. Look at all

> the drug advertising,

> behavior like this is illegal in many other

> countries and would be frowned

> upon by credible professionals. The drug companies

> have targeted the very

> profitable group that are not feeling so very

> depressed, but just have a

> mild, possible condition. They have targeted that

> group for profit and have

> completely undermined the process of proper

> diagnosis, and just sheer

> responsibility.

>

>

> >

> > Guys I'm from Canada and docs dont get paid

> depending on meds they

> > prescribe. There is none of that shit here. I've

> perhaps 20 docs,

> > urologists, psychs, regular docs, you name it.

> DOCS (at least in

> > Canada) are not lying about knowledge of PSSD.

> THEY DONT KNOW IT

> > EXISTS! STOP BLAIMING THE DOCS! They dont get

> plessure by medically

> > castrating you. I'm sick and tired of posts

> blaming docs. Blame the

> > FDA who approved the drugs or the pharmceutical

> co.'s.

> > Antidepressants are the most or top 3 prescribed

> meds in Canada and

> > probably U.S. Dont you think if this was common it

> would be all over

> > the place. Dont give me that shit that people are

> too shy to tell

> > docs. THEIR DICKS ARE NOT WORKING PROPERLY, trust

> me if there is one

> > thing a man would go see a doc for, it would be

> for his dick. Docs

> > dont get satisfaction giving us pssd. THEY ARE NOT

> HIDING SHIT, FOR

> > THE LAST TIME THEY DONT KNOW ABOUT IT. We should

> consider how really

> > common our conditions are.

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > > Minorities as white people call them. Really

> the majority. Go

> > to

> > > > almost any major place in America and white

> people are the

> > minority.

> > > > Why are minorities called minorities?

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, all my black and hispanic friends had

> never even heard

> > of an

> > > > anti-depressant until I started using them. I

> don't think too

> > many

> > > > black or hispanic people even use psychiatric

> drugs.

> > > >

> > > > As my friend Jayvon used to say, Medication in

> the hood is weed

> > and

> > > > alcohal. I wish I had taken his advice.

> > > >

> > > > On top of that, all my black and hispanic

> friends are deep in

> > touch

> > > > with family and friends and rely on them for

> emotional support.

> > not

> > > > some pills. I lived in a white family. I never

> knew anybody in my

> > > > family.

> > > >

> > > > White people are stopping themselves from

> breeding and basic

> > sexual

> > > > needs and its kind of funny. I'm a victim of

> my own white family

> > in

> > > > regards to PSSD.

> > > >

> > > > I guarantee you that 95% of the people in this

> group are white.

> > > >

> > > > It's funny how the only people who listen to

> me about PSSD are

> > the

> > > > people you would never expect. I just had a

> conversation about it

> > > > with a really cool dude from around the way

> who had been locked

> > up in

> > > > prison. He wasn't surprised about it. He

> didn't think I was

> > lying.

> > > > He said it was " the man's fault for making

> these drugs and

> > making them

> > > > seem harmless. " He understands the unjustices

> in America. I

> > guarantee

> > > > you that he was locked up for a really dumb

> reason.

> > > >

> > > > To understand PSSD, you have to understand

> that there's an

> > underbelly

> > > > of America that a lot of white people don't

> want to look at. That

> > > > same trust in America that a lot of white

> people have is what is

> > > > killing themselves when they take this

> medication.

> > > >

> > > > I should be a preacher. As a matter of fact, I

> think that's my

> > calling

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

I want to add to the interesting points has made about the

interaction of medication and race:

It has long been recognized that minorities as well as those of lower

socioeconomic class, regardless of race, face more barriers to

entering he mental health system than do those of majority culture or

high socio-economic class-- barriers such as a lower liklihood of

having insurance, more mistrust of the system (justified), language

and cultural barriers, transportation to clinics, etc. That said,

overall, they are less likely to be on medication and to rely on

other forms of support. BUT--- once IN our broken mental health

system, monorities are MORE likely to simply be placed on medication

rather than offered the time-intensive resource of talk-therapy for

mental health problems.

-Zwerk

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Minorities as white people call them. Really the

majority. Go to

> > > > > > almost any major place in America and white people are the

> minority.

> > > > > > Why are minorities called minorities?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anyway, all my black and hispanic friends had never even

> heard of an

> > > > > > anti-depressant until I started using them. I don't think

> too many

> > > > > > black or hispanic people even use psychiatric drugs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As my friend Jayvon used to say, Medication in the hood is

> weed and

> > > > > > alcohal. I wish I had taken his advice.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On top of that, all my black and hispanic friends are deep

> in touch

> > > > > > with family and friends and rely on them for emotional

> support. not

> > > > > > some pills. I lived in a white family. I never knew

anybody

> in my

> > > > > > family.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > White people are stopping themselves from breeding and

basic

> sexual

> > > > > > needs and its kind of funny. I'm a victim of my own white

> family in

> > > > > > regards to PSSD.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I guarantee you that 95% of the people in this group are

white.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's funny how the only people who listen to me about PSSD

> are the

> > > > > > people you would never expect. I just had a conversation

> about it

> > > > > > with a really cool dude from around the way who had been

locked

> > > up in

> > > > > > prison. He wasn't surprised about it. He didn't think I

was

> lying.

> > > > > > He said it was " the man's fault for making these drugs and

> > > making them

> > > > > > seem harmless. " He understands the unjustices in America.

I

> > > guarantee

> > > > > > you that he was locked up for a really dumb reason.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To understand PSSD, you have to understand that there's an

> > > underbelly

> > > > > > of America that a lot of white people don't want to look

at.

> That

> > > > > > same trust in America that a lot of white people have is

what is

> > > > > > killing themselves when they take this medication.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I should be a preacher. As a matter of fact, I think

that's my

> > > calling

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

No you didn't. Have you even gotten a blood test for testosterone and

estradiol?

The only key to beating this is be open-minded and try everything in a

sensible way. I'll cheer you up, if you're willing to spend $20 bucks.

Go to megabiz.net and order the Ring of Power. I KNOW IT LOOKS STUPID.

It works. I have hard erections again thanks to it. I am sexually

attracted to women again. Sorry, it doesn't help with sensitivity. I am

working on that.

You know what the problem is? Everyone is lazy and wants a simple

answer. It just doesn't work that way. You have to get to the cause and

fix the body as a whole. It's not easy and will take time to figure out

and fix. But I know there is hope from all the progress that I have made

in the last six months.

Shay

brianbeezly wrote:

>

> I've tried everything. I mean everything, ya dig. Everything to try

> to reverse PSSD or Antidepressant Reproductive Damage as I call it.

>

> All the medications. Best one? Mirapex, but not a cure

>

> All the herbal stuff. Best one? None of those mutherfuckers work

> except maybe the first time you try it

>

> When did I see the most improvement?

>

> When I did a lot of running for about two weeks. I mean a lot of

> running. Mile after mile. After mile. After mile. After mile.

>

> It's the only cure baby. Run your ass off like your Forrest Gump.

> You'll see improvement, but you won't be cured. Then run some more.

> And run some more. And run some more. Notice how you feel peace of

> mind more. Then run some more. Then run some more. Notice how you

> fall into deep, deep sleeps. Then run some more. Then run some more.

> Then run some more. Notice how you can kinda feel sensation down

> there. Don't quit there like I did. It's so hard. Run or die.

>

> That's the plan for me. Those two weeks that I ran hard really

> sucked. They really really sucked. But it's the only way that I saw

> improvement.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Even the APA was started by a Nazi war criminal who emigrated to the

US from Germany and started that organization based on the same

horrific doctrine used to target, capture and torture innocent people

based on nothing more than opinion created for social conformity.

Nothing has changed. Your parents are brainwashed by the lies and

pseudo-science of an industry of torture and death. The short story is

that psychiatry is not your friend. Neither is anyone who is connected

or advocates for psychiatry. Maybe you should file a complaint with

cchr.org. I think everyone who has been wrongfully confined,

restrained, forced drugged, denied informed consent, and lied to about

the dangers of these drugs should take a stand. But the hard part is

finding the safe effective way to stand up for your self, becuase this

industry has billions of dollars and decades of experince in

manipulating the system, it makes it nearly impossible. I think

cchr.org is most likely the best place to speak the truth on this

issue. I hope you can find a way to get justice before the martial law

against truth takes us down any further.

>

> I contacted my psychiatrist seven times after she hung up on me after

> I compared her to a drug dealer. She wrote me a letter that she has

> notified the police and that my messages for her are available for the

> law enforcement. She claims they are threatening. She gave me drugs

> that neutered me and I get in trouble for being mad at her. She also

> said in her note that it was impossible for these drugs to cause

> permanent sexual dysfunction.

>

> My neurologist charges me 350 dollars a visit to sit there and tell

> him all the research that I have done on PSSD, while he is a very old

> man that knows absolutely nothing. How could I have more knowledge

> about the dopamine and serotonin systems in the body than a man who

> has wrote journals and is supposed to be a highly respected neurologist.

>

> There's no cure to this thing. Just let millions of people keep

> getting affected until one day it will come to light.

>

> This has kind of been like an out of body experience to me for the

> last couple years. No one can help. No one completely believes me.

>

> And why do my parents and that psychiatrist stay in touch. I'm a 24

> year old man and the first thing that she did was go to my parents

> when I confronted her. Somehow, they're on her side in this whole

> thing. My parents and her had a meeting with the police about me.

>

> This is unbelievable, but I'm sick of complaining. The same way that

> people who go to prison harden up and accept their reality is the same

> way I'm coping with PSSD. It's just something that I have to accept

> and I really don't have a choice, ya dig. There's nothing else you

> can do but accept it. It's all you can do.

>

[Guest guest]

You have a valid point there. But the damage is done now. We have all

heard the lies from these doctors saying that " these drugs never hurt

anyone " . " It is impossible " etc..etc.. All this guy did was tell the

truth. Now the shrink has threatened him, putting him in fear of

losing whatever little freedom he has left. The police have been

involved. His parents have sided with the person who assaulted him.

Psychiatry feeds itself by creating a police state under a charade of

pseudo-science. It is a total fraud.

This guy is better off denying he has ever had any mental illness and

getting a lawyer to sue the shrink, and anybody else involved in

perpetrating his crisis. In the last four decades government mental

hospitals have killed twice as many people than every war combined

since the year 1776. And that's just the government. The private

hospitals have killed far more. Every 75 seconds psychiatry imprisons

another victim. This guy has to do something before he becomes another

statistic.

>

> You shouldn't have called her a drug dealer. You're just undermining

your

> argument by being insulting, regardless of it being an apt analogy

or not,

> it isn't useful in creating a genuine, productive dialogue about this

> situation.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>In the last four decades government mental

> hospitals have killed twice as many people than every war combined

> since the year 1776.

Source, please?

River

[Guest guest]

>

> > ... they talked to his parents, not the government, i think the

psychiatrist

> > probably did the right thing.

>

> That is actually not true. Physicians are bound both by laws and by

ethical rules enforced by

> the medical board. There are instances in which the standards may

legally and ethically be

> ignored, but by and large it is true to say that a physician has no

business discussing

> anything to do with the treatment of a patient with anyone else.

Familial relationships are not

> excepted.

>

> River

>

Have you studied bio-ethics, health care law, the rights of patients,

and the statistics regarding these issues? I have. There are doctors

who have settled dozens of malpractice cases, never been disciplined

by the state medical boards, and then hired by the big pharma to ghost

write the clinical trial documents which are given to their friends at

the FDA for approval, and they always get approval, even when people

died in the clinical trial. We are in this situation because the

government and the big company's and the doctors are not our friends.

The laws, ethical rules, codes of conduct etc. are not worth the paper

they are written on. The medical practice and the system as a whole

behaves no different than the crack dealers in the street, or

organized crime. It is all about doing whatever they can get away with

and manipulating the system to make it easier to do so.

There is very, very little oversight by any agency to do anything

about it, and there is absolutely no system to monitor the actions

perpetrated by doctors. You don't see any health care martials

gaurding patients in hospitals in the style of an air martial

protecting us from terrorists high jacking airplanes. The government

and police simply don't care.

In fact, when you combine all the statistics of the malpractice

committed, the complaints filed, and the justice served, all these

figures across the board are ten times worse than rape and murder

combined. But because there isn't any large scale campaign on the

boob-tube (aka television), people naturally perceive the problem in

these ways: ignore it, denie it, minimize it, shift blame, discredit

the facts, and often even sympathize with the industry that kills

300,000 Americans per year. I challenge anyone to compare it to any

other " crises " being pushed onto our conscience by the powers that be.

This includes: terrorism, auto-accidents, alcoholism, illicit drug

overdose, homicide, suicide, and every war in history.

Not a single one of these media pushed " crises " can hold a candle to

the medical industry killing people.

The psychiatric industry is responsible for driving up health care

costs 200%, while at the same time admitting that they dont't know any

cause for illnesses the supposedly treat, and have no cures, and the

persistent talk of the " chemical imbalance " is an actual lie.

They are doing nothing legitimate and the are billing the insurance

company's for about $75 billion per year. It is a nakedly obvious

fraud. The Bush administration so far has only made it nearly

impossible to bring these criminals to justice by passing a law about

" frivolous " lawsuits and forced victims to face a medical tribunal,

and mandated a pharmacaust on our school children.

The laws that supposedly " bound " the folks in power are meaningless.

The Bush administration will say and do anything they they want under

the pretext of 9/11. Our constitution has been destroyed. Our civil

liberties are destroyed. Our sovereignty will soon be a thing of the

past. Our new currency will be the Amero. This is to make it easier

for the world bank to make more money without doing those pesky

currency conversions. The New World Order is being constructed right

under our nose, and these doctors are actually a big part of the plan.

The American government recruited at least 600 psychiatrists from WW2

to be unbound from punishment and perform the very same kind of

experiments corvertly on Americans that the Nuremberg code was created

to ban. These experiments continue to be covertly done on our society

today. Hard to believe? Bill Clinton made a public apology about.

Abandon any notion that laws and codes will protect you. It is simply

a myth. You have a better chance of the Lock Ness monster coming to

your next pool party.

[Guest guest]

Watch this video. This guy isn't white. He was a CEO in big pharma.

Now he's speaking out. He wrote a two books about the bad and illegal

things he did to make big money.

> > >

> > > Minorities as white people call them. Really the majority. Go to

> > > almost any major place in America and white people are the minority.

> > > Why are minorities called minorities?

> > >

> > > Anyway, all my black and hispanic friends had never even heard of an

> > > anti-depressant until I started using them. I don't think too many

> > > black or hispanic people even use psychiatric drugs.

> > >

> > > As my friend Jayvon used to say, Medication in the hood is weed and

> > > alcohal. I wish I had taken his advice.

> > >

> > > On top of that, all my black and hispanic friends are deep in touch

> > > with family and friends and rely on them for emotional support. not

> > > some pills. I lived in a white family. I never knew anybody in my

> > > family.

> > >

> > > White people are stopping themselves from breeding and basic sexual

> > > needs and its kind of funny. I'm a victim of my own white family in

> > > regards to PSSD.

> > >

> > > I guarantee you that 95% of the people in this group are white.

> > >

> > > It's funny how the only people who listen to me about PSSD are the

> > > people you would never expect. I just had a conversation about it

> > > with a really cool dude from around the way who had been locked

up in

> > > prison. He wasn't surprised about it. He didn't think I was lying.

> > > He said it was " the man's fault for making these drugs and

making them

> > > seem harmless. " He understands the unjustices in America. I

guarantee

> > > you that he was locked up for a really dumb reason.

> > >

> > > To understand PSSD, you have to understand that there's an

underbelly

> > > of America that a lot of white people don't want to look at. That

> > > same trust in America that a lot of white people have is what is

> > > killing themselves when they take this medication.

> > >

> > > I should be a preacher. As a matter of fact, I think that's my

calling

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It is the doc's fault for not knowing. They have not fulfilled the

code of ethics to make decisions by getting information from unbiased

sources. Instead, as research shows, a large percentage of them think

that pharma drug pushers like the ones in the link below are a good

source to RELY ON for information.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9-uqIJfRd8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEIg1as2ppc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OWtdOwLn-k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADwuLxVsscU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emn_UwnpRPY

By now, enough whistle blowers have spoken out to prove that they know

they are doing illegal things and deceptive things that put peoples

lives in harms way for big profits. There is no doubt that if things

were different, we wouldn't be in this mess. The congress takes big

bribes from big pharma, so they do not want to change this system.

They guard their jobs like gold.

Here's the real kicker.

Pfizer throws sexy party's like this.

> > >

> > > Minorities as white people call them. Really the majority. Go

> to

> > > almost any major place in America and white people are the

> minority.

> > > Why are minorities called minorities?

> > >

> > > Anyway, all my black and hispanic friends had never even heard

> of an

> > > anti-depressant until I started using them. I don't think too

> many

> > > black or hispanic people even use psychiatric drugs.

> > >

> > > As my friend Jayvon used to say, Medication in the hood is weed

> and

> > > alcohal. I wish I had taken his advice.

> > >

> > > On top of that, all my black and hispanic friends are deep in

> touch

> > > with family and friends and rely on them for emotional support.

> not

> > > some pills. I lived in a white family. I never knew anybody in my

> > > family.

> > >

> > > White people are stopping themselves from breeding and basic

> sexual

> > > needs and its kind of funny. I'm a victim of my own white family

> in

> > > regards to PSSD.

> > >

> > > I guarantee you that 95% of the people in this group are white.

> > >

> > > It's funny how the only people who listen to me about PSSD are

> the

> > > people you would never expect. I just had a conversation about it

> > > with a really cool dude from around the way who had been locked

> up in

> > > prison. He wasn't surprised about it. He didn't think I was

> lying.

> > > He said it was " the man's fault for making these drugs and

> making them

> > > seem harmless. " He understands the unjustices in America. I

> guarantee

> > > you that he was locked up for a really dumb reason.

> > >

> > > To understand PSSD, you have to understand that there's an

> underbelly

> > > of America that a lot of white people don't want to look at. That

> > > same trust in America that a lot of white people have is what is

> > > killing themselves when they take this medication.

> > >

> > > I should be a preacher. As a matter of fact, I think that's my

> calling

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> To a degree, you are right--its not like doctors are

> wringing their hands together, thinking evil thoughts

> about the joys of wreaking havoc on everyones

> sexuality. Instead, its that doctors have the whole

> know-it-all, god complex-like thoughts that definitely

> include their fervent belief that we are all too dumb

> to know anything that they dont. They wont ever

> believe that we could be intelligent about ourselves,

> our research, our bodies and the things going on with

> us. most medical discoveries in history had many

> doctors against them--its like its in their

> nature--like that they have been taught EVERYTHING

> there is to know--and so there is no other medical

> explanation. This will come out in the wash--it will

> be another vioxx or fen-phen. I do think many types of

> people, men and women included- wont go to a doctor

> about sexual problems. Ignorance drives this as much

> as anything. Just yesterday, there was a Dear Margo

> letter about a woman whose husbands' delayed

> ejaculation was making her sore. Not once was the

> possibility of anti-depressant use part of the

> response as a possible cause, but the possibility of

> whisky-dick sure was mentioned. The more people that

> experience this trouble with anti-depressants, the

> more it will finally move toward recognition. Not

> everyone knows. Not many do--they will eventually.

> lisa

1. The most prolific serial killers in history have all been physicians.

2. Your second point is correct. Doctors view their profession as an

enforcement of paternalistic ideology. Not a practice of science.

This alone puts people in harms way.

3. I think it was Einstein who said something like " the end of

learning something new is the beginning of all unwisdom. "

e.i. " I know everything, so no one is smarter than me -or- no one

could possible teach me anything. " Einstein is 100% correct. The

dumbest folks I've ever met, think exactly like that.

Do you feel comfortable having medical decisions made by dumb people?

4. Fen-Phen is the exact same catagory of drug and mechanism of action

as SSRI's. Didn't it make headlines that it was causing sexual

dysfunction? The only reason no one believes people are injured by

psych meds is because the perps are quick to push the lies that it's

all in your head or you drank too much. I think from now on we should

remind these people that SSRI's are the same as fen-phen. How could

they argue with that? Maybe these facts will make a difference some day.

5. That is correct, most people (90%) will not spontaneously report

sexual side effects. Drug company's know this. They use this as a way

to skew the clinical research and lie to doctors and the public about

the safety.

6. What is a Dear Margo letter? If these are inquiry's answered by a

medical practitioner, " Margo " most likely is receiving dirty money

from the big pharma cartel and " she " doesn't want to risk losing that

extra $200,000 or however much she gets per year, by speaking against

the evil rat pack.

7. As a general rule of thumb, medical practitioners will construct

any kind of lie to shift the blame on non-existent conditions or

behaviors. The latter is really what infuriates me the most. I am

compelled to file complaints when the doctor concludes somehow that it

is from alcohol or drugs that I never did in the first place. And as a

matter of fact, I actually worked hard to help others get clean and

sober, and actually tried working to get the drug dealers off the

streets and almost was killed several times doing it.

Sooner or later the B.S. has to end. Maybe something will change after

I sue all these scum bags.

[Guest guest]

I have to disagree from personal experience. I'm in a day treatment

program where I happen to be the only one who isn't chemically

lobotomized on these meds and I can see the statistical relevance in a

real world setting. The USA's population is about 5% black and 5%

latino. This is the same ethnic prevalence I see in day treatment.

This shows that depression and fraudulent psychiatry is an equal

opportunity disaster.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Minorities as white people call them. Really the majority.

Go to

> > > > > > almost any major place in America and white people are the

> minority.

> > > > > > Why are minorities called minorities?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anyway, all my black and hispanic friends had never even

> heard of an

> > > > > > anti-depressant until I started using them. I don't think

> too many

> > > > > > black or hispanic people even use psychiatric drugs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As my friend Jayvon used to say, Medication in the hood is

> weed and

> > > > > > alcohal. I wish I had taken his advice.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On top of that, all my black and hispanic friends are deep

> in touch

> > > > > > with family and friends and rely on them for emotional

> support. not

> > > > > > some pills. I lived in a white family. I never knew anybody

> in my

> > > > > > family.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > White people are stopping themselves from breeding and basic

> sexual

> > > > > > needs and its kind of funny. I'm a victim of my own white

> family in

> > > > > > regards to PSSD.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I guarantee you that 95% of the people in this group are

white.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's funny how the only people who listen to me about PSSD

> are the

> > > > > > people you would never expect. I just had a conversation

> about it

> > > > > > with a really cool dude from around the way who had been

locked

> > > up in

> > > > > > prison. He wasn't surprised about it. He didn't think I was

> lying.

> > > > > > He said it was " the man's fault for making these drugs and

> > > making them

> > > > > > seem harmless. " He understands the unjustices in America. I

> > > guarantee

> > > > > > you that he was locked up for a really dumb reason.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To understand PSSD, you have to understand that there's an

> > > underbelly

> > > > > > of America that a lot of white people don't want to look at.

> That

> > > > > > same trust in America that a lot of white people have is

what is

> > > > > > killing themselves when they take this medication.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I should be a preacher. As a matter of fact, I think that's my

> > > calling

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What your saying is totally true. I don't have the link offhand. But

the fact is that evil pharma has already been busted for sending a

letter to doctors instructing them to prescribe these drugs for

non-medical reasons. Proven drugs that are cheap, safe, and effective,

like xanax simply are not profitable. Total fraud. That's all it is.

Greed and fraud.

> > > > >

> > > > > Minorities as white people call them. Really

> > the majority. Go

> > > to

> > > > > almost any major place in America and white

> > people are the

> > > minority.

> > > > > Why are minorities called minorities?

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway, all my black and hispanic friends had

> > never even heard

> > > of an

> > > > > anti-depressant until I started using them. I

> > don't think too

> > > many

> > > > > black or hispanic people even use psychiatric

> > drugs.

> > > > >

> > > > > As my friend Jayvon used to say, Medication in

> > the hood is weed

> > > and

> > > > > alcohal. I wish I had taken his advice.

> > > > >

> > > > > On top of that, all my black and hispanic

> > friends are deep in

> > > touch

> > > > > with family and friends and rely on them for

> > emotional support.

> > > not

> > > > > some pills. I lived in a white family. I never

> > knew anybody in my

> > > > > family.

> > > > >

> > > > > White people are stopping themselves from

> > breeding and basic

> > > sexual

> > > > > needs and its kind of funny. I'm a victim of

> > my own white family

> > > in

> > > > > regards to PSSD.

> > > > >

> > > > > I guarantee you that 95% of the people in this

> > group are white.

> > > > >

> > > > > It's funny how the only people who listen to

> > me about PSSD are

> > > the

> > > > > people you would never expect. I just had a

> > conversation about it

> > > > > with a really cool dude from around the way

> > who had been locked

> > > up in

> > > > > prison. He wasn't surprised about it. He

> > didn't think I was

> > > lying.

> > > > > He said it was " the man's fault for making

> > these drugs and

> > > making them

> > > > > seem harmless. " He understands the unjustices

> > in America. I

> > > guarantee

> > > > > you that he was locked up for a really dumb

> > reason.

> > > > >

> > > > > To understand PSSD, you have to understand

> > that there's an

> > > underbelly

> > > > > of America that a lot of white people don't

> > want to look at. That

> > > > > same trust in America that a lot of white

> > people have is what is

> > > > > killing themselves when they take this

> > medication.

> > > > >

> > > > > I should be a preacher. As a matter of fact, I

> > think that's my

> > > calling

> > > > >

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[Guest guest]

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> I want to add to the interesting points has made about the

> interaction of medication and race:

> It has long been recognized that minorities as well as those of lower

> socioeconomic class, regardless of race, face more barriers to

> entering he mental health system than do those of majority culture or

> high socio-economic class-- barriers such as a lower liklihood of

> having insurance, more mistrust of the system (justified), language

> and cultural barriers, transportation to clinics, etc. That said,

> overall, they are less likely to be on medication and to rely on

> other forms of support. BUT--- once IN our broken mental health

> system, monorities are MORE likely to simply be placed on medication

> rather than offered the time-intensive resource of talk-therapy for

> mental health problems.

> -Zwerk

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I have to disagree with the latter part of what your saying.

When I was captured and forced to do an " evaluation " I objected to

being medicated, and said I needed stabilization of adrenal function

and said I only need " psychotherapy " . I was verbally snapped at with

the statement " no, you're not getting psychotherapy. " I asked why not

and got snapped at again. " because we don't have a psychotherapist

here. " This is totally illegal mind you, as federal regulation

requires a mental hospital to have a psychotherapist on staff at all

mental health care facility's. As I later found out, it is almost a

universal trend for hospitals to have only drugging (usually forced)

as their only means of " treatment " . Yes it is also illegal too, and

has created a phenomenal increase in violence in hospitals. ( Only to

be blamed on other things, more diagnoses etc..)

To this day, every medical worker has either pushed drugs directly or

tried some back door approach to push drugs on me. I only have one

counselor who hasn't tried to pull this scam on me yet. I have to dump

my therapist now because of it, and I'm seriously considering dropping

out of my program also.

Greed and fraud doesn't care what color some one is.

I was homeless for eight months, and the black folks all had the same

health insurance as me. I still can't see any way that race is a

factor in this at all. Not one bit.

[Guest guest]

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> >In the last four decades government mental

> > hospitals have killed twice as many people than every war combined

> > since the year 1776.

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> Source, please?

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> River

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" Psychiatry: An Industry of Death "

[Guest guest]

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> I have to disagree from personal experience. I'm in a day treatment

> program where I happen to be the only one who isn't chemically

> lobotomized on these meds and I can see the statistical relevance in a

> real world setting. The USA's population is about 5% black and 5%

> latino.

Way off. In 2005, the U.S. population is 12.8% black and 14.4% Latino.

River

[Guest guest]

> >

> > >In the last four decades government mental

> > > hospitals have killed twice as many people than every war combined

> > > since the year 1776.

> >

> > Source, please?

> >

> > River

> >

> " Psychiatry: An Industry of Death "

>

No, I meant reliable source. Youtube is a worthwhile site, but it has no

standards; anyone

can upload anything. Again, there's a huge problem with the numbers you allege.

These

hyperbolic claims are undermining your message.

River

[Guest guest]

Thanks about the stats on the minority population. I knew it wasn't

right........

> >

> > I have to disagree from personal experience. I'm in a day treatment

> > program where I happen to be the only one who isn't chemically

> > lobotomized on these meds and I can see the statistical relevance in a

> > real world setting. The USA's population is about 5% black and 5%

> > latino.

>

> Way off. In 2005, the U.S. population is 12.8% black and 14.4% Latino.

>

> River

>