Re: Spacer/was sore throat

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Carol and Rita

I am a singer also

Please see an ENT voice specialist doctor and get advice for this

Have you tried any throat sprays? I like Entertainer's Secret (for dry throat and hoarseness)

some pharmacies have it also available online if you search.

Also I think you can get spacers at pharmacies.

Good luck!

Devorah

Hi Rita:

     I told my doctor that I couldn't sing any more (on Advair, Maxair) and he said he didn't know why but he was sorry.  He also doesn't believe in spacers, he believes in teaching you how to use the inhaler correctly.  But I'd like to know where to buy a spacer.

     Thanks,

Carol

 

 

Rita:

I had the same problem with Advair (I am a singer also) so I had to discontinue.  Is the Flovent you're using a powder or aerosol?  I switched to Asthmacort aerosol and did better, although my vocal chords still get stiff, so the "delicate" soft notes don't come anymore.

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Hi Rita:

I told my doctor that I couldn't sing any more (on Advair, Maxair) and he said he didn't know why but he was sorry. He also doesn't believe in spacers, he believes in teaching you how to use the inhaler correctly. But I'd like to know where to buy a spacer.

Thanks,

Carol

Rita:

I had the same problem with Advair (I am a singer also) so I had to discontinue. Is the Flovent you're using a powder or aerosol? I switched to Asthmacort aerosol and did better, although my vocal chords still get stiff, so the "delicate" soft notes don't come anymore.

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Carol - that business regarding not needing the spacer is flat out B.S. - I recommend that you see another doctor immediately. Without the spacer, the medicine just shoots all over your throat and tongue, and it's much less effective. I got a great spacer when I was in the hospital (for another issue, but they regulated my asthma meds while I was there) - it's a rather cumbersome, big thing, but it works GREAT. Deborah - what meds are you on? I've seen 3 ENT's and 2 pulmonolists, with no real solutions. My gift has been greatly affected, and it breaks my heart, I've been singing since I was 14 (see our website www.classifiedevents.com). I do use Entertainer's Secret to help with dryness, but the inflammation continues and I constantly fight the "crud" and trying to sing over it. My new General Practicioner has prescribed a new reflux medication

(which is also part of my problem), we'll see what happens - I'm constantly praying for a miracle cure. Many of my favorite songs I can no longer sing (Ave , for example). Ritadslala@... wrote: Carol and RitaI am a singer alsoPlease see an ENT voice specialist doctor and get advice for thisHave you tried any throat sprays? I like Entertainer's Secret (for dry throat and hoarseness)some pharmacies have it also available online if you search.Also I think you can get spacers at pharmacies.Good luck!DevorahHi Rita: I told my doctor that I couldn't sing any more (on Advair, Maxair) and he

said he didn't know why but he was sorry. He also doesn't believe in spacers, he believes in teaching you how to use the inhaler correctly. But I'd like to know where to buy a spacer. Thanks,Carol Rita:I had the same problem with Advair (I am a singer also) so I had to discontinue. Is the Flovent you're using a powder or aerosol? I switched to Asthmacort aerosol and did better, although my vocal chords still get stiff, so the "delicate" soft notes don't come anymore.

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I agree. I give all my patients in the hospital a spacer. 1, its

protocol for us to do so and 2, I believe in them. There clinical

studies out there that say that using a spacer will get more of the

medication into your lungs and less on the back of your throat.

There is also a study out there that says if you use an MDI with a

spacer " correctly " it has virtually the same deposition as the

medications in a drug nebulizer. These studies are from medical

journals not tabloid publications.

> Carol and Rita

> I am a singer also

> Please see an ENT voice specialist doctor and get advice for this

> Have you tried any throat sprays? I like Entertainer's Secret (for

dry throat and hoarseness)

> some pharmacies have it also available online if you search.

> Also I think you can get spacers at pharmacies.

> Good luck!

> Devorah

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Maxair) and he said he didn't know why but he was sorry. He also

doesn't believe in spacers, he believes in teaching you how to use

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switched to Asthmacort aerosol and did better, although my vocal

chords still get stiff, so the " delicate " soft notes don't come

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Rita

I don't know what city you live in..Where are you?

there are otolaryngolists who should be able to help you

When I was on nexium it really really helped me with the gunk in the back of the troat...took about 2 weeks to really startt making a difference in my voice..also you have to follow diet guidelins too

then I lost my insurance and couldn't afford the nexxium...my voice really shows the difference

There are voice therapists and vocal teachers who can help you learn to sing around the problem...

That was a great boon to me here in NYC

Have you tried steam techniques that relax the vocal cords?

Simplest is pour boiling water into a mug, place a funnel upside down on top of mug, put your mouth around the funnel (like a straw) and simple breath in the steam

Best of luck to you

don't lose heart there are things that can get you back to where you want to be

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Hi Deborah, thanks for all of your suggestions. Unfortunately, I've sort of "been there/done that" with most of them. I've been fighting this for 10+ years. I was in Atlanta GA, have just moved to Valrico,FL (12 mi east of Tampa). I'm not sure what an otolaryngolist does, I haven't seen one of those - I'll have to look it up. When this thing started, I was doing my best to sing over the crud, and developed a (small) vocal nodule in the process. I was sent to the St. ph's Hospital Voice and Swallowing center, and went through about 10 voice therapy sessions. It definitely helped, as I was able to get some exercises to help get the sound back where it needed to go. I was then sent to a vocal coach to continue with training. After about 6 months, the coach admitted that she really couldn't help me until I got the physical problem better under control - even she could hear the

"crud". The vocal coach recommended a good ENT who did diagnose the reflux (which, by the way, was NOT diagnosed by a gastro doc that I went to). I went (and still am) on Nexium (I do still have my insurance, thank God). It helped about 50% of the problem, so I was able to get some of my tone back. My most recent doc (just a pretty good GP, have to find new docs here in Florida) gave me another prescription that is supposed to help strengthen the muscle that closes off the esophagus from the stomach. I had to send it away (mail-in prescription coversage). This doc says that even though the Nexiium is controlling the acid, it's not controlling the "flux" - "stuff" is still flushing up into my vocal chord area. So, we'll see what happens there. Maybe my miracle cure? I do have a personal steamer that I use frequently, it stays on my nightstand. I often

use Eucalyptus (spelling?) with it. I also have a flutter valve, which does help when I'm feeling particularly "wheezy". I also do Yoga breathing each morning, to help clear out the crud that accumulates during the night. I seem to have drainage 24/7. I've been allergy tested twice, and have been declared "allergic to nothing" both times. I also take allegra D - I think it's the decongestant part of that med that helps the most. Also singulair (not sure if that helps at all), Flonase, Asthmacort, and albuterol when I'm having a particularly bad day. I was taking the Serevent, when they discontinued the "puffer" version of that, I found the powder version to be a problem so I discontinued it. The puffer version did help quite a bit. So, there's the (sorry so long) version of my story. I get very discouraged when I try to practice, because it takes me at least an hour to

warm up over the crud. By that time, I'm worn out from fighting so hard and I no longer feel like singing. Any more comments/suggestions are always welcome, I'll try ANYTHING to get my gift back. Rita (songbird_rita@...) dslala@... wrote: RitaI don't know what city you live in..Where are you?there are otolaryngolists who should be able to help youWhen I was on nexium it really really helped me with the gunk in the back of the troat...took about 2 weeks to really startt making a difference in my voice..also you have to follow diet guidelins toothen I lost my insurance and couldn't afford the nexxium...my voice really

shows the differenceThere are voice therapists and vocal teachers who can help you learn to sing around the problem...That was a great boon to me here in NYCHave you tried steam techniques that relax the vocal cords?Simplest is pour boiling water into a mug, place a funnel upside down on top of mug, put your mouth around the funnel (like a straw) and simple breath in the steamBest of luck to youdon't lose heart there are things that can get you back to where you want to beDevorah www.geocities.com/jazzdevorahariSINGmusic click links for my webpages:                Devorah Segall, Jazz                creative arts workshops Devorah Segall kids cl…        Birthday Party NY

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I have a kind of cumbersome spacer too, but it functions well. I won't use my MDI without it. My major gripe about this spacer is that my inhaler doesn't fit inside it like my old spacer. I gave it to a friend who didn't have one and taught her how to use it. Anyways, just my 2 cents worth. "Matt Anders, RRT, EMT" wrote: I agree. I give all my patients in the hospital a spacer. 1, its protocol for us to do so and 2, I believe in them. There clinical studies out there that say that using a spacer will get more of the medication into your lungs and less on the back of your throat. There is also a study out there that says if you use an MDI with a spacer "correctly" it has virtually the same deposition as the medications in a drug nebulizer. These studies are from medical

journals not tabloid publications.> Carol and Rita> I am a singer also> Please see an ENT voice specialist doctor and get advice for this> Have you tried any throat sprays? I like Entertainer's Secret (for dry throat and hoarseness)> some pharmacies have it also available online if you search.> Also I think you can get spacers at pharmacies.> Good luck!> Devorah> > > Hi Rita:> > I told my doctor that I couldn't sing any more (on Advair, Maxair) and he said he didn't

know why but he was sorry. He also doesn't believe in spacers, he believes in teaching you how to use the inhaler correctly. But I'd like to know where to buy a spacer.> > Thanks,> > Carol> > > > > > > Rita:> > I had the same problem with Advair (I am a singer also) so I had to discontinue. Is the Flovent you're using a powder or aerosol? I switched to Asthmacort aerosol and did better, although my vocal chords still get stiff, so the "delicate" soft notes don't come anymore.> > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Hi , I just got a aero chamber plus and fist time having one and i can tell the difference right away.The first time i didnt do it right and and it made a whistle sound so did again and got it right.Bill and Canter wrote: I have a kind of cumbersome spacer too, but it functions well. I won't use my MDI without it. My major gripe about this spacer is that my inhaler doesn't fit inside it like my old spacer. I gave it to a friend who didn't have one and taught her how to use it. Anyways, just my 2 cents worth. "Matt Anders, RRT, EMT" wrote: I agree. I give all my patients in the hospital a spacer. 1, its protocol for us to do so and 2, I believe in them. There clinical studies out there that say that using a spacer will get more of the medication into your lungs and less on the back of your throat. There is also a study out there that says if you use an MDI with a spacer "correctly" it has virtually the same deposition as the medications in a drug nebulizer. These studies are from medical journals not tabloid publications.> Carol and Rita> I am a singer also> Please see an ENT voice specialist doctor and get advice for this> Have you tried any throat sprays? I like Entertainer's Secret (for dry throat and hoarseness)> some pharmacies have it also available online if you search.> Also I think you can get spacers at pharmacies.> Good luck!> Devorah> > > Hi Rita:> > I told my doctor that I couldn't sing any more (on Advair, Maxair) and he said he didn't know why but he was sorry. He also doesn't believe in spacers, he believes in teaching you how to use the inhaler correctly. But I'd like to know where to buy a spacer.> > Thanks,> > Carol> > > > > > > Rita:> > I had the same problem with Advair (I

am a singer also) so I had to discontinue. Is the Flovent you're using a powder or aerosol? I switched to Asthmacort aerosol and did better, although my vocal chords still get stiff, so the "delicate" soft notes don't come anymore.> > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Mine whistles too. It lets you know you're breathing in your medicine too fast. Breathe in deeply and slowly and the medicine works much better. I really like using a spacer for that reason. angel has ms wrote: Hi , I just got a aero chamber plus and fist time having one and i can tell the difference right away.The first time i didnt do it right and and it made a whistle sound so did again and got it right.Bill and Canter wrote: I have a kind of cumbersome

spacer too, but it functions well. I won't use my MDI without it. My major gripe about this spacer is that my inhaler doesn't fit inside it like my old spacer. I gave it to a friend who didn't have one and taught her how to use it. Anyways, just my 2 cents worth. "Matt Anders, RRT, EMT" wrote: I agree. I give all my patients in the hospital a spacer. 1, its protocol for us to do so and 2, I believe in them. There clinical studies out there that say that using a spacer will get more of the medication into your lungs and less on the back of your throat. There is also a study out there that says if you use an MDI with a spacer "correctly" it has virtually the same deposition as the medications in a drug nebulizer. These studies are from medical journals not tabloid

publications.> Carol and Rita> I am a singer also> Please see an ENT voice specialist doctor and get advice for this> Have you tried any throat sprays? I like Entertainer's Secret (for dry throat and hoarseness)> some pharmacies have it also available online if you search.> Also I think you can get spacers at pharmacies.> Good luck!> Devorah> > > Hi Rita:> > I told my doctor that I couldn't sing any more (on Advair, Maxair) and he said he didn't know why but he was

sorry. He also doesn't believe in spacers, he believes in teaching you how to use the inhaler correctly. But I'd like to know where to buy a spacer.> > Thanks,> > Carol> > > > > > > Rita:> > I had the same problem with Advair (I am a singer also) so I had to discontinue. Is the Flovent you're using a powder or aerosol? I switched to Asthmacort aerosol and did better, although my vocal chords still get stiff, so the "delicate" soft notes don't come anymore.> > > > > > > > > > > > >