Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 Nonmelanoma skin cancer increased in RA patients Rheumawire Dec 19, 2005 Zosia Chustecka Wichita, KS - Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) patients are known to be at an increased risk of developing lymphoproliferative disorders, particularly non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Now a large US study suggests that they may also be at an increased risk of developing nonmelanoma skin cancer, such as basal cell carcinoma and squamous cell carcinoma [1]. The results come from an analysis of data collected by the National Data Bank for Rheumatic Diseases, directed by Dr Frederick Wolfe (University of Kansas, Wichita), and are reported in the November 2005 issue of the Journal of Rheumatology. The researchers compared data collected since 1999 on 15 789 patients with RA and 3639 patients with osteoarthritis (OA). Although the crude incidence rates were similar for both populations, after adjustment for covariates, there was a small but significant increased hazard of developing nonmelanoma skin cancer in patients with RA compared with those with OA (hazard ratio =1.19, p=0.042). Among the RA patients, the development of nonmelanoma skin cancer was associated with use of prednisone (HR=1.28, p=0.014) and with the use of TNF inhibitors with concomitant methotrexate (HR=1.97, p=0.001). No association was found with the use of methotrexate alone (HR=1.12, p=0.471) or leflunomide (HR=0.83, p=0.173). The researchers comment that the use of any TNF inhibitor (adalimumab, etanercept, or infliximab) was associated with a slightly increased risk (HR=1.24, p=0.89), but this did not reach statistical significance, whereas the use of a TNF inhibitor with concomitant methotrexate raised the risk twofold and was significant. " This suggests that increasing immunosuppression, particularly with the use of TNF inhibitors, may be associated with increased risk for developing nonmelanoma skin cancer, " the authors write. " However, it is possible that the trend toward increased hazard of nonmelanoma skin cancer with increased immunosuppressive medications is actually confounding by indication: a function of the severity of the underlying RA rather than the direct effects of immunosuppression itself. " " Together, these findings suggest that skin-cancer screening at regular intervals may be warranted for all patients with RA, especially those receiving chronic immunosuppressive therapy, " the researchers conclude. Findings " in concert " with European studies The finding of an increased risk of nonmelanoma skin cancer in RA patients from this study is " in concert " with earlier studies from Europe, the researchers comment. They note that two studies from Northern Europe have also suggested an increased risk: they compared the incidence in RA patients with that in the general population and found relative risks ranging from 1.17 [2] to 1.4 [3]. There have also been several case reports of a rapid development of squamous cell carcinoma after administration of TNF inhibitors [4, 5], the authors note, but a study of patients in clinical trials with etanercept found no increase in squamous cell carcinoma compared with the general population [6]. " Basal cell carcinoma and squamous cell carcinoma are among the commonest types of malignancies, and although they rarely metastasize to distant sites or lead to death, their high prevalence and associated morbidity contribute to the overall public-health burden, " the authors comment. Sources 1. Chakravarty EF, Michaud K, Wolfe F. Skin cancer, rheumatoid arthritis and tumor necrosis factor inhibitors. J Rheumatol 2005; 32:2130- 2135. 2. Gridley G, McLaughlin JK, Ekbom A, et al. Incidence of cancer among patients with rheumatoid arthritis. J Natl Cancer Inst 1993; 85:307-311. 3. Mellemkjaer L, Linet MS, Gridley G, et al. Rheumatoid arthritis and cancer risk. Eur J Cancer 1996; 32A:1753-1757. 4. KJ, Skelton HG. Rapid onset of cutaneous squamous cell carcinoma in patients with rheumatoid arthritis after starting tumor necrosis factor receptor IgG1-Fx fusion complex therapy. J Am Acad Dermatol 2001; 45:953-956. 5. Esser AC, Abril A, Fayne S, et al. Acute development of multiple keratoacanthomas and squamous cell carcinomas after treatment with infliximab. J Am Acad Dermatol 2004; 50 (Suppl 5):S75-S77. 6. Lebwohl M, Kim D, Do T, et al. Cutaneous squamous cell carcinoma incidence is not increased in rheumatoid arthritis patients receiving etanercept. EULAR 2003; June 12-15 2003; Lisbon, Portugal. Available at: http://www.eular.org. Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 Oh My God, Scary stuff!!!!!! I can't stand that my baby is on MTX and I know how horrible the steroids are she still has osteoporosis from them. But I NEVER knew how bad the TNF inhibitors were. She's on Remicade and has been for years as well as the other meds and all the docs told me about Rem was that it wasn't studied in children but that we were at the end of our med ropes and we had to try it. They mentioned stem cell transplant, but that involved a lot more than the TNF inhibitors. I long for the med free days of remission (if we ever get there). Thanks for the info, Missy <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: Nonmelanoma skin cancer increased in RA patients Rheumawire Dec 19, 2005 Zosia Chustecka Wichita, KS - Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) patients are known to be at an increased risk of developing lymphoproliferative disorders, particularly non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Now a large US study suggests that they may also be at an increased risk of developing nonmelanoma skin cancer, such as basal cell carcinoma and squamous cell carcinoma [1]. The results come from an analysis of data collected by the National Data Bank for Rheumatic Diseases, directed by Dr Frederick Wolfe (University of Kansas, Wichita), and are reported in the November 2005 issue of the Journal of Rheumatology. The researchers compared data collected since 1999 on 15 789 patients with RA and 3639 patients with osteoarthritis (OA). Although the crude incidence rates were similar for both populations, after adjustment for covariates, there was a small but significant increased hazard of developing nonmelanoma skin cancer in patients with RA compared with those with OA (hazard ratio =1.19, p=0.042). Among the RA patients, the development of nonmelanoma skin cancer was associated with use of prednisone (HR=1.28, p=0.014) and with the use of TNF inhibitors with concomitant methotrexate (HR=1.97, p=0.001). No association was found with the use of methotrexate alone (HR=1.12, p=0.471) or leflunomide (HR=0.83, p=0.173). The researchers comment that the use of any TNF inhibitor (adalimumab, etanercept, or infliximab) was associated with a slightly increased risk (HR=1.24, p=0.89), but this did not reach statistical significance, whereas the use of a TNF inhibitor with concomitant methotrexate raised the risk twofold and was significant. " This suggests that increasing immunosuppression, particularly with the use of TNF inhibitors, may be associated with increased risk for developing nonmelanoma skin cancer, " the authors write. " However, it is possible that the trend toward increased hazard of nonmelanoma skin cancer with increased immunosuppressive medications is actually confounding by indication: a function of the severity of the underlying RA rather than the direct effects of immunosuppression itself. " " Together, these findings suggest that skin-cancer screening at regular intervals may be warranted for all patients with RA, especially those receiving chronic immunosuppressive therapy, " the researchers conclude. Findings " in concert " with European studies The finding of an increased risk of nonmelanoma skin cancer in RA patients from this study is " in concert " with earlier studies from Europe, the researchers comment. They note that two studies from Northern Europe have also suggested an increased risk: they compared the incidence in RA patients with that in the general population and found relative risks ranging from 1.17 [2] to 1.4 [3]. There have also been several case reports of a rapid development of squamous cell carcinoma after administration of TNF inhibitors [4, 5], the authors note, but a study of patients in clinical trials with etanercept found no increase in squamous cell carcinoma compared with the general population [6]. " Basal cell carcinoma and squamous cell carcinoma are among the commonest types of malignancies, and although they rarely metastasize to distant sites or lead to death, their high prevalence and associated morbidity contribute to the overall public-health burden, " the authors comment. Sources 1. Chakravarty EF, Michaud K, Wolfe F. Skin cancer, rheumatoid arthritis and tumor necrosis factor inhibitors. J Rheumatol 2005; 32:2130- 2135. 2. Gridley G, McLaughlin JK, Ekbom A, et al. Incidence of cancer among patients with rheumatoid arthritis. J Natl Cancer Inst 1993; 85:307-311. 3. Mellemkjaer L, Linet MS, Gridley G, et al. Rheumatoid arthritis and cancer risk. Eur J Cancer 1996; 32A:1753-1757. 4. KJ, Skelton HG. Rapid onset of cutaneous squamous cell carcinoma in patients with rheumatoid arthritis after starting tumor necrosis factor receptor IgG1-Fx fusion complex therapy. J Am Acad Dermatol 2001; 45:953-956. 5. Esser AC, Abril A, Fayne S, et al. Acute development of multiple keratoacanthomas and squamous cell carcinomas after treatment with infliximab. J Am Acad Dermatol 2004; 50 (Suppl 5):S75-S77. 6. Lebwohl M, Kim D, Do T, et al. Cutaneous squamous cell carcinoma incidence is not increased in rheumatoid arthritis patients receiving etanercept. EULAR 2003; June 12-15 2003; Lisbon, Portugal. Available at: http://www.eular.org. Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Try not to worry, Missy. The types of skin cancer they are talking about are common and easily treatable. From what is known so far, the benefits of the use of TNF inhibitors and methotrexate in the treatment of RA still far outweigh the risks. Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Re: [ ] RESEARCH - Nonmelanoma skin cancer increased in RA patients > Oh My God, Scary stuff!!!!!! I can't stand that my baby is on MTX and I > know how horrible the steroids are she still has osteoporosis from them. > But I NEVER knew how bad the TNF inhibitors were. She's on Remicade and > has been for years as well as the other meds and all the docs told me > about Rem was that it wasn't studied in children but that we were at the > end of our med ropes and we had to try it. They mentioned stem cell > transplant, but that involved a lot more than the TNF inhibitors. I long > for the med free days of remission (if we ever get there). > Thanks for the info, > Missy > > <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: > Nonmelanoma skin cancer increased in RA patients > > Rheumawire > Dec 19, 2005 > Zosia Chustecka > > Wichita, KS - Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) patients are known to be at an > increased risk of developing lymphoproliferative disorders, particularly > non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Now a large US study suggests that they may also > be > at an increased risk of developing nonmelanoma skin cancer, such as basal > cell carcinoma and squamous cell carcinoma [1]. > > The results come from an analysis of data collected by the National Data > Bank for Rheumatic Diseases, directed by Dr Frederick Wolfe (University of > Kansas, Wichita), and are reported in the November 2005 issue of the > Journal > of Rheumatology. > > The researchers compared data collected since 1999 on 15 789 patients with > RA and 3639 patients with osteoarthritis (OA). Although the crude > incidence > rates were similar for both populations, after adjustment for covariates, > there was a small but significant increased hazard of developing > nonmelanoma > skin cancer in patients with RA compared with those with OA (hazard ratio > =1.19, p=0.042). > > Among the RA patients, the development of nonmelanoma skin cancer was > associated with use of prednisone (HR=1.28, p=0.014) and with the use of > TNF > inhibitors with concomitant methotrexate (HR=1.97, p=0.001). No > association > was found with the use of methotrexate alone (HR=1.12, p=0.471) or > leflunomide (HR=0.83, p=0.173). The researchers comment that the use of > any > TNF inhibitor (adalimumab, etanercept, or infliximab) was associated with > a > slightly increased risk (HR=1.24, p=0.89), but this did not reach > statistical significance, whereas the use of a TNF inhibitor with > concomitant methotrexate raised the risk twofold and was significant. > > > " This suggests that increasing immunosuppression, particularly with the > use > of TNF inhibitors, may be associated with increased risk for developing > nonmelanoma skin cancer, " the authors write. " However, it is possible that > the trend toward increased hazard of nonmelanoma skin cancer with > increased > immunosuppressive medications is actually confounding by indication: a > function of the severity of the underlying RA rather than the direct > effects > of immunosuppression itself. " > > " Together, these findings suggest that skin-cancer screening at regular > intervals may be warranted for all patients with RA, especially those > receiving chronic immunosuppressive therapy, " the researchers conclude. > > > Findings " in concert " with European studies > > The finding of an increased risk of nonmelanoma skin cancer in RA patients > from this study is " in concert " with earlier studies from Europe, the > researchers comment. They note that two studies from Northern Europe have > also suggested an increased risk: they compared the incidence in RA > patients > with that in the general population and found relative risks ranging from > 1.17 [2] to 1.4 [3]. There have also been several case reports of a rapid > development of squamous cell carcinoma after administration of TNF > inhibitors [4, 5], the authors note, but a study of patients in clinical > trials with etanercept found no increase in squamous cell carcinoma > compared > with the general population [6]. > > " Basal cell carcinoma and squamous cell carcinoma are among the commonest > types of malignancies, and although they rarely metastasize to distant > sites > or lead to death, their high prevalence and associated morbidity > contribute > to the overall public-health burden, " the authors comment. > > > Sources > > 1. Chakravarty EF, Michaud K, Wolfe F. Skin cancer, > rheumatoid arthritis and tumor necrosis factor inhibitors. J Rheumatol > 2005; > 32:2130- 2135. > 2. Gridley G, McLaughlin JK, Ekbom A, et al. Incidence of > cancer among patients with rheumatoid arthritis. J Natl Cancer Inst 1993; > 85:307-311. > 3. Mellemkjaer L, Linet MS, Gridley G, et al. Rheumatoid > arthritis and cancer risk. Eur J Cancer 1996; 32A:1753-1757. > 4. KJ, Skelton HG. Rapid onset of cutaneous squamous > cell carcinoma in patients with rheumatoid arthritis after starting tumor > necrosis factor receptor IgG1-Fx fusion complex therapy. J Am Acad > Dermatol > 2001; 45:953-956. > 5. Esser AC, Abril A, Fayne S, et al. Acute development of > multiple keratoacanthomas and squamous cell carcinomas after treatment > with > infliximab. J Am Acad Dermatol 2004; 50 (Suppl 5):S75-S77. > 6. Lebwohl M, Kim D, Do T, et al. Cutaneous squamous cell > carcinoma incidence is not increased in rheumatoid arthritis patients > receiving etanercept. EULAR 2003; June 12-15 2003; Lisbon, Portugal. > Available at: http://www.eular.org. > > > > > > > > Not an MD > > I'll tell you where to go! > > Mayo Clinic in Rochester > http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester > > s Hopkins Medicine > http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Thanks for the info. Hey, I was wondering about the strollers and wheelchairs in the middle of the mall too. What's up with that??? My baby is six and weighs around 45 lbs. Not that much, but to carry her from the front to the middle is sooooo hard on my back. She's too big for a regular stroller per se' but I have put her in those car shaped ones before. She always rides in carts in stores (the back of it). Also, I can't believe people can be so cruel as to rush you through the grocery aisles because you're going too slow. But what I can sympathize with are the stares and glares of ornery people when you or your child is on steroids. Man, I had some HATEFUL people say some awful things to me and my daughter. She was two and three when she was on the heaviest doses of pred. 67 mg. a day and she was only 29 lbs. (well 52 by the time she was on it for 2 months). I have NEVER hit anyone but I swear I almost clobbered this bxxtch in the Post Office once. She herself was overweight and as loud as you please said, " Oh, My GOD!!! Look at that fat little girl. For God's sake how much did she weigh when she was born??? That is just child abuse that's what that is you hear me? She should be on Oprah. " Can you imagine someone saying that about your little precious girl who nearly died from this horrible disease? At first I was speachless, then I noticed tears in her eyes and everyone in the entire post office staring at me to see my response. I looked her dead in the face (mind you I'm a little person and she looked like she could squash me) and said, " Not that it's any of your business you ornery, hateful woman, but my daughter takes powerful immune suppressant drugs that cause weight gain and without them she would meet our maker (I didn't want to say die in front of ) what's your excuse? Do you have any other rude questions I can answer for you? " I wanted to cuss her out but I didn't want to set that example for my little girl or make her feel like there was really something wrong with her. I just left the post office with everyone now staring at that bxxxtch. Everyone was speachless. I hope she felt 2 inches tall after that. Maybe she'll learn to keep her big mouth shut. Mind you she did look like there was something wrong with her, but really would you ask an amputee what happened to their leg, arm, etc? NOT!!!!! Do you think I did the right thing? Missy <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: Try not to worry, Missy. The types of skin cancer they are talking about are common and easily treatable. From what is known so far, the benefits of the use of TNF inhibitors and methotrexate in the treatment of RA still far outweigh the risks. Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Re: [ ] RESEARCH - Nonmelanoma skin cancer increased in RA patients > Oh My God, Scary stuff!!!!!! I can't stand that my baby is on MTX and I > know how horrible the steroids are she still has osteoporosis from them. > But I NEVER knew how bad the TNF inhibitors were. She's on Remicade and > has been for years as well as the other meds and all the docs told me > about Rem was that it wasn't studied in children but that we were at the > end of our med ropes and we had to try it. They mentioned stem cell > transplant, but that involved a lot more than the TNF inhibitors. I long > for the med free days of remission (if we ever get there). > Thanks for the info, > Missy > > <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: > Nonmelanoma skin cancer increased in RA patients > > Rheumawire > Dec 19, 2005 > Zosia Chustecka > > Wichita, KS - Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) patients are known to be at an > increased risk of developing lymphoproliferative disorders, particularly > non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Now a large US study suggests that they may also > be > at an increased risk of developing nonmelanoma skin cancer, such as basal > cell carcinoma and squamous cell carcinoma [1]. > > The results come from an analysis of data collected by the National Data > Bank for Rheumatic Diseases, directed by Dr Frederick Wolfe (University of > Kansas, Wichita), and are reported in the November 2005 issue of the > Journal > of Rheumatology. > > The researchers compared data collected since 1999 on 15 789 patients with > RA and 3639 patients with osteoarthritis (OA). Although the crude > incidence > rates were similar for both populations, after adjustment for covariates, > there was a small but significant increased hazard of developing > nonmelanoma > skin cancer in patients with RA compared with those with OA (hazard ratio > =1.19, p=0.042). > > Among the RA patients, the development of nonmelanoma skin cancer was > associated with use of prednisone (HR=1.28, p=0.014) and with the use of > TNF > inhibitors with concomitant methotrexate (HR=1.97, p=0.001). No > association > was found with the use of methotrexate alone (HR=1.12, p=0.471) or > leflunomide (HR=0.83, p=0.173). The researchers comment that the use of > any > TNF inhibitor (adalimumab, etanercept, or infliximab) was associated with > a > slightly increased risk (HR=1.24, p=0.89), but this did not reach > statistical significance, whereas the use of a TNF inhibitor with > concomitant methotrexate raised the risk twofold and was significant. > > > " This suggests that increasing immunosuppression, particularly with the > use > of TNF inhibitors, may be associated with increased risk for developing > nonmelanoma skin cancer, " the authors write. " However, it is possible that > the trend toward increased hazard of nonmelanoma skin cancer with > increased > immunosuppressive medications is actually confounding by indication: a > function of the severity of the underlying RA rather than the direct > effects > of immunosuppression itself. " > > " Together, these findings suggest that skin-cancer screening at regular > intervals may be warranted for all patients with RA, especially those > receiving chronic immunosuppressive therapy, " the researchers conclude. > > > Findings " in concert " with European studies > > The finding of an increased risk of nonmelanoma skin cancer in RA patients > from this study is " in concert " with earlier studies from Europe, the > researchers comment. They note that two studies from Northern Europe have > also suggested an increased risk: they compared the incidence in RA > patients > with that in the general population and found relative risks ranging from > 1.17 [2] to 1.4 [3]. There have also been several case reports of a rapid > development of squamous cell carcinoma after administration of TNF > inhibitors [4, 5], the authors note, but a study of patients in clinical > trials with etanercept found no increase in squamous cell carcinoma > compared > with the general population [6]. > > " Basal cell carcinoma and squamous cell carcinoma are among the commonest > types of malignancies, and although they rarely metastasize to distant > sites > or lead to death, their high prevalence and associated morbidity > contribute > to the overall public-health burden, " the authors comment. > > > Sources > > 1. Chakravarty EF, Michaud K, Wolfe F. Skin cancer, > rheumatoid arthritis and tumor necrosis factor inhibitors. J Rheumatol > 2005; > 32:2130- 2135. > 2. Gridley G, McLaughlin JK, Ekbom A, et al. Incidence of > cancer among patients with rheumatoid arthritis. J Natl Cancer Inst 1993; > 85:307-311. > 3. Mellemkjaer L, Linet MS, Gridley G, et al. Rheumatoid > arthritis and cancer risk. Eur J Cancer 1996; 32A:1753-1757. > 4. KJ, Skelton HG. Rapid onset of cutaneous squamous > cell carcinoma in patients with rheumatoid arthritis after starting tumor > necrosis factor receptor IgG1-Fx fusion complex therapy. J Am Acad > Dermatol > 2001; 45:953-956. > 5. Esser AC, Abril A, Fayne S, et al. Acute development of > multiple keratoacanthomas and squamous cell carcinomas after treatment > with > infliximab. J Am Acad Dermatol 2004; 50 (Suppl 5):S75-S77. > 6. Lebwohl M, Kim D, Do T, et al. Cutaneous squamous cell > carcinoma incidence is not increased in rheumatoid arthritis patients > receiving etanercept. EULAR 2003; June 12-15 2003; Lisbon, Portugal. > Available at: http://www.eular.org. > > > > > > > > Not an MD > > I'll tell you where to go! > > Mayo Clinic in Rochester > http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester > > s Hopkins Medicine > http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Boy, it sounds like you handled that insensitivity just right. I love it when loudmouths get theirs. It is amazing what can come from their small minds. I don't know why, but it seems that the people that run things always do something stupid. Lowe's built a new store and put all handicap parking on the side of the store away from the entrance/exit doors. The first time I went into the store, I went to the manager and complained. Why should I have to park that far from the doors and a healthy person can park right at the doors! The next week, when I went past the store, I noticed that all the store-front parking spaces were now handicap spaces. All it takes is to bring the problem to the right people. Go to the mall office and give them an ear full of their discrimination and they will most likely fix it because they don't want negative press. That's what I would do. Dennis Re: [ ] RESEARCH - Nonmelanoma skin cancer increased in RA patients Thanks for the info. Hey, I was wondering about the strollers and wheelchairs in the middle of the mall too. What's up with that??? My baby is six and weighs around 45 lbs. Not that much, but to carry her from the front to the middle is sooooo hard on my back. She's too big for a regular stroller per se' but I have put her in those car shaped ones before. She always rides in carts in stores (the back of it). Also, I can't believe people can be so cruel as to rush you through the grocery aisles because you're going too slow. But what I can sympathize with are the stares and glares of ornery people when you or your child is on steroids. Man, I had some HATEFUL people say some awful things to me and my daughter. She was two and three when she was on the heaviest doses of pred. 67 mg. a day and she was only 29 lbs. (well 52 by the time she was on it for 2 months). I have NEVER hit anyone but I swear I almost clobbered this bxxtch in the Post Office once. She herself was overweight and as loud as you please said, " Oh, My GOD!!! Look at that fat little girl. For God's sake how much did she weigh when she was born??? That is just child abuse that's what that is you hear me? She should be on Oprah. " Can you imagine someone saying that about your little precious girl who nearly died from this horrible disease? At first I was speachless, then I noticed tears in her eyes and everyone in the entire post office staring at me to see my response. I looked her dead in the face (mind you I'm a little person and she looked like she could squash me) and said, " Not that it's any of your business you ornery, hateful woman, but my daughter takes powerful immune suppressant drugs that cause weight gain and without them she would meet our maker (I didn't want to say die in front of ) what's your excuse? Do you have any other rude questions I can answer for you? " I wanted to cuss her out but I didn't want to set that example for my little girl or make her feel like there was really something wrong with her. I just left the post office with everyone now staring at that bxxxtch. Everyone was speachless. I hope she felt 2 inches tall after that. Maybe she'll learn to keep her big mouth shut. Mind you she did look like there was something wrong with her, but really would you ask an amputee what happened to their leg, arm, etc? NOT!!!!! Do you think I did the right thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Of course you did the right thing, Missy. That person was incredibly rude and insensitive. She got off easy. >From: MELISSA CRIGLER <nmsanders@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: [ ] RESEARCH - Nonmelanoma skin cancer increased in >RA patients >Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 21:06:41 -0800 (PST) > >Thanks for the info. Hey, I was wondering about the strollers and >wheelchairs in the middle of the mall too. What's up with that??? My baby >is six and weighs around 45 lbs. Not that much, but to carry her from the >front to the middle is sooooo hard on my back. She's too big for a regular >stroller per se' but I have put her in those car shaped ones before. She >always rides in carts in stores (the back of it). > > Also, I can't believe people can be so cruel as to rush you through the >grocery aisles because you're going too slow. But what I can sympathize >with are the stares and glares of ornery people when you or your child is >on steroids. Man, I had some HATEFUL people say some awful things to me and >my daughter. She was two and three when she was on the heaviest doses of >pred. 67 mg. a day and she was only 29 lbs. (well 52 by the time she was on >it for 2 months). I have NEVER hit anyone but I swear I almost clobbered >this bxxtch in the Post Office once. She herself was overweight and as loud >as you please said, " Oh, My GOD!!! Look at that fat little girl. For God's >sake how much did she weigh when she was born??? That is just child abuse >that's what that is you hear me? She should be on Oprah. " Can you imagine >someone saying that about your little precious girl who nearly died from >this horrible disease? At first I was speachless, then I noticed tears in >her eyes and everyone in the > entire post office staring at me to see my response. I looked her dead in >the face (mind you I'm a little person and she looked like she could squash >me) and said, " Not that it's any of your business you ornery, hateful >woman, but my daughter takes powerful immune suppressant drugs that cause >weight gain and without them she would meet our maker (I didn't want to say >die in front of ) what's your excuse? Do you have any other rude >questions I can answer for you? " I wanted to cuss her out but I didn't want >to set that example for my little girl or make her feel like there was >really something wrong with her. I just left the post office with everyone >now staring at that bxxxtch. Everyone was speachless. I hope she felt 2 >inches tall after that. Maybe she'll learn to keep her big mouth shut. Mind >you she did look like there was something wrong with her, but really would >you ask an amputee what happened to their leg, arm, etc? NOT!!!!! Do you >think I did the right thing? > > Missy > <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: > Try not to worry, Missy. The types of skin cancer they are talking about >are >common and easily treatable. > >From what is known so far, the benefits of the use of TNF inhibitors and >methotrexate in the treatment of RA still far outweigh the risks. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 You BET you did the right thing! Rude people never cease to amaze me with some comments they make. Hopefully you made her feel so small that she'll think twice before opening her mouth. a On Jan 2, 2006, at 12:06 AM, MELISSA CRIGLER wrote: > Thanks for the info. Hey, I was wondering about the strollers and > wheelchairs in the middle of the mall too. What's up with that??? > My baby is six and weighs around 45 lbs. Not that much, but to > carry her from the front to the middle is sooooo hard on my back. > She's too big for a regular stroller per se' but I have put her in > those car shaped ones before. She always rides in carts in stores > (the back of it). > > Also, I can't believe people can be so cruel as to rush you > through the grocery aisles because you're going too slow. But what > I can sympathize with are the stares and glares of ornery people > when you or your child is on steroids. Man, I had some HATEFUL > people say some awful things to me and my daughter. She was two and > three when she was on the heaviest doses of pred. 67 mg. a day and > she was only 29 lbs. (well 52 by the time she was on it for 2 > months). I have NEVER hit anyone but I swear I almost clobbered > this bxxtch in the Post Office once. She herself was overweight and > as loud as you please said, " Oh, My GOD!!! Look at that fat little > girl. For God's sake how much did she weigh when she was born??? > That is just child abuse that's what that is you hear me? She > should be on Oprah. " Can you imagine someone saying that about your > little precious girl who nearly died from this horrible disease? At > first I was speachless, then I noticed tears in her eyes and everyo > entire post office staring at me to see my response. I looked her > dead in the face (mind you I'm a little person and she looked like > she could squash me) and said, " Not that it's any of your business > you ornery, hateful woman, but my daughter takes powerful immune > suppressant drugs that cause weight gain and without them she would > meet our maker (I didn't want to say die in front of ) what's > your excuse? Do you have any other rude questions I can answer for > you? " I wanted to cuss her out but I didn't want to set that > example for my little girl or make her feel like there was really > something wrong with her. I just left the post office with everyone > now staring at that bxxxtch. Everyone was speachless. I hope she > felt 2 inches tall after that. Maybe she'll learn to keep her big > mouth shut. Mind you she did look like there was something wrong > with her, but really would you ask an amputee what happened to > their leg, arm, etc? NOT!!!!! Do you think I did the right t > Missy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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