Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 It was a great feeling to have my article published in BMJ. But I think I had a greater joy reading all your comments and kudos. Thanks a million everybody. Your mails keep me ticking. Kishore Shah 1974 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 Congratulations, Kishore. Tejinder-1976 ________________________________ From: mgims on behalf of Shah Sent: Fri 11/4/2005 6:57 PM To: mgims Subject: Re: ALIAS It was a great feeling to have my article published in BMJ. But I think I had a greater joy reading all your comments and kudos. Thanks a million everybody. Your mails keep me ticking. Kishore Shah 1974 ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 Thanks again, Ameet, Prabha, Ravin, Teji, and OP Sir, Your wishes count for more than BMJ Kishore Shah 1974 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Excellent!! Made very interesting reading. To get stuff published in the BMJ is a real feather in your cap. Kudos Malini With regards L/M Prasad (lp1960@...) Wish a very happy and cheerful day keep smiling > ALIAS > > > This is my original article: > > ALIAS > (A Landing in an alphabet soup) > > When I received an invitation to attend a recent conference > on HIV management, I never dreamt that I would be landing in > a soup, an alphabet soup, to be precise. > > Until now, I had taken pride in the fact, that as a > Gynaecologist, I was part of a bizarre cult which used such > exotic short forms as PPH, PID, IUGR, > FD* to name a few. (*Post Partum Haemorrhage, Pelvic > Inflammatory Disease, Intra Uterine Growth Retardation, > Foetal distress.) In fact it was these acronyms, which > separated us from ordinary mortals. > > All medical specialities use short forms or acronyms. However > O & G (Obstetrics and Gynaecology) surely beats the nearest > contender hollow. So simple doctors just gape at us Gynaecs > while we merrily scatter alphabets hither and thither. > However, this conference on HIV management really opened my eyes. > > Until then, I had thought that calling Isoniazid with a short > form INH was the height of sophistication. I mean, only an > expert could have dreamt of putting an H there. But this HIV > conference opened up my senses to another level! > > Actually, the name itself should have warned me, since it > contained the acronym HIV and the sub text had the dreaded > alphabets AIDS. > > The conference began innocuously enough by discussing the > demography. Until then the only acronyms used were the oft > used and abused HIV and AIDS. That was simple enough. The > real action started when we reached the drugs of HIV. > > There is no drug used in the management of HIV, which does > not have a short form of its own. Almost all combinations > have now been used up, like web addresses, and the newer > discoveries will have to make do with numbers or symbols. > > Initially, it looked like a piece of cake to me. Yes, > Abacavir is called ABC. As simple as, well .., ABC! > Atazanavir is called ATV and Indinavir is called IDV. Smooth > and easy. No problems till now. > > Then suddenly the waters started getting murkier. It was as > if the bowler, who was throwing straight balls till now, had > suddenly bowled a googly. Zidovudine is called AZT. I can > understand the Z, but what are A and T doing there. A > fleeting thought struck me that maybe AT & T has sponsored that acronym. > > Just as I was recovering from that puzzler, I was faced with > Didanosine and Tenofovir. If I were asked to device their > acronyms, I would have said DDN and TNF respectively. > However, no one asked me, with the result that Didanosine is > called ddl and Tenofovir is TDF. They must have asked > somebody with a massive word ataxia. Why doesn't Didanosine > have capitals? Is it being punished for the 'sin' in it's name? > > One of the most intriguing short forms is that for the drug > Ritonavir. If I gave you a thousand guesses to think of what > it began with, you would not ever be close (unless, of > course, you knew beforehand!). The short form is /r. Yes! > There is an oblique sign to begin it. It is used to fortify > Protease inhibitors. Well, then why isn't it in capital > letters? I always thought fortification meant strengthening. > > Our ship suddenly entered calmer waters when SQV meant > Saquinavir. But calm waters run deep. Suddenly we were told > that SQV also meant Fortovase. Now, I know you can have two > guys called Bush at the same time, but stretching it to drugs > is a bit too much. To make matters worse, FTV does not mean > Fashion TV, but means Fortovase. Now if you ask why it is > also known as SQV, you will be told that Saquinavir can also > be called FTV. Just as you are recovering from that blow, you > are delivered a knock out punch saying that SQV and FTV can > both stand for SGC. This must be a world first. I mean one > short form for another short form? > > Matters got more and more esoteric from thence onwards. Can > you guess what ddC and d4T could mean? Yes, we have a number > introduced now, as if alphabets alone were not sufficient to > confuse us. Well, ddC means Zalcitabine (I knew you would > guess that one). While as, d4T means Stavudine. Don't ask me > where that 4 comes from and what that weird capitalization is > all about. I did not device these short forms. For that > matter, do not even think about how FTC can mean > Emtricitabine or 3TC can mean Lamivudine. > > In the old times, Medical people used Greek and Latin to > confuse the proletariat. This seems to be an advanced > version of the same. > > At the end of the conference, I was looking suitably humbled > and dazed. A group of ten or twelve upstarts gathered > jeeringly around me. They started discussing all those > alphabets knowingly. Just as I was reeling from all those > body blows, I retaliated with one huge humdinger of a > comeback. A sucker punch to beat all sucker punches. I asked > them a simple question. " You say you must use ABC or XYZ if > the CD4 count comes down. Let me ask you a simple question. > What is the full form of CD, as in CD4 and CD8, and just how > many of these CDs are there? " > > Like a Phoenix rising from the ashes, I proudly tilted my > nose upwards and walked out triumphantly, leaving those guys > to figure out that bouncer. > > PS: I am not going to relieve you of your agony by telling > you the last answer. If you do not know it, you need to read > it up yourself and relive the torture that I went through! > > (The above article was originally published in an edited > version by the British Medical Journal (BMJ): BMJ > 2005;331:1071 (5 November), doi:10.1136/bmj.331.7524.1071 ) > > Kishore Shah 1974 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Congratulations,Kishoreda. It was to be the the next obvious step for u,having already been at the top here,for 3long years. Where next,Kishoreda.? Hope to find ur next article in BJO,someday,soon,perhaps. Keep up the good work. Aapka shubhachintak, Shyam(84) ALIAS > > > This is my original article: > > ALIAS > (A Landing in an alphabet soup) > > When I received an invitation to attend a recent conference > on HIV management, I never dreamt that I would be landing in > a soup, an alphabet soup, to be precise. > > Until now, I had taken pride in the fact, that as a > Gynaecologist, I was part of a bizarre cult which used such > exotic short forms as PPH, PID, IUGR, > FD* to name a few. (*Post Partum Haemorrhage, Pelvic > Inflammatory Disease, Intra Uterine Growth Retardation, > Foetal distress.) In fact it was these acronyms, which > separated us from ordinary mortals. > > All medical specialities use short forms or acronyms. However > O & G (Obstetrics and Gynaecology) surely beats the nearest > contender hollow. So simple doctors just gape at us Gynaecs > while we merrily scatter alphabets hither and thither. > However, this conference on HIV management really opened my eyes. > > Until then, I had thought that calling Isoniazid with a short > form INH was the height of sophistication. I mean, only an > expert could have dreamt of putting an H there. But this HIV > conference opened up my senses to another level! > > Actually, the name itself should have warned me, since it > contained the acronym HIV and the sub text had the dreaded > alphabets AIDS. > > The conference began innocuously enough by discussing the > demography. Until then the only acronyms used were the oft > used and abused HIV and AIDS. That was simple enough. The > real action started when we reached the drugs of HIV. > > There is no drug used in the management of HIV, which does > not have a short form of its own. Almost all combinations > have now been used up, like web addresses, and the newer > discoveries will have to make do with numbers or symbols. > > Initially, it looked like a piece of cake to me. Yes, > Abacavir is called ABC. As simple as, well .., ABC! > Atazanavir is called ATV and Indinavir is called IDV. Smooth > and easy. No problems till now. > > Then suddenly the waters started getting murkier. It was as > if the bowler, who was throwing straight balls till now, had > suddenly bowled a googly. Zidovudine is called AZT. I can > understand the Z, but what are A and T doing there. A > fleeting thought struck me that maybe AT & T has sponsored that acronym. > > Just as I was recovering from that puzzler, I was faced with > Didanosine and Tenofovir. If I were asked to device their > acronyms, I would have said DDN and TNF respectively. > However, no one asked me, with the result that Didanosine is > called ddl and Tenofovir is TDF. They must have asked > somebody with a massive word ataxia. Why doesn't Didanosine > have capitals? Is it being punished for the 'sin' in it's name? > > One of the most intriguing short forms is that for the drug > Ritonavir. If I gave you a thousand guesses to think of what > it began with, you would not ever be close (unless, of > course, you knew beforehand!). The short form is /r. Yes! > There is an oblique sign to begin it. It is used to fortify > Protease inhibitors. Well, then why isn't it in capital > letters? I always thought fortification meant strengthening. > > Our ship suddenly entered calmer waters when SQV meant > Saquinavir. But calm waters run deep. Suddenly we were told > that SQV also meant Fortovase. Now, I know you can have two > guys called Bush at the same time, but stretching it to drugs > is a bit too much. To make matters worse, FTV does not mean > Fashion TV, but means Fortovase. Now if you ask why it is > also known as SQV, you will be told that Saquinavir can also > be called FTV. Just as you are recovering from that blow, you > are delivered a knock out punch saying that SQV and FTV can > both stand for SGC. This must be a world first. I mean one > short form for another short form? > > Matters got more and more esoteric from thence onwards. Can > you guess what ddC and d4T could mean? Yes, we have a number > introduced now, as if alphabets alone were not sufficient to > confuse us. Well, ddC means Zalcitabine (I knew you would > guess that one). While as, d4T means Stavudine. Don't ask me > where that 4 comes from and what that weird capitalization is > all about. I did not device these short forms. For that > matter, do not even think about how FTC can mean > Emtricitabine or 3TC can mean Lamivudine. > > In the old times, Medical people used Greek and Latin to > confuse the proletariat. This seems to be an advanced > version of the same. > > At the end of the conference, I was looking suitably humbled > and dazed. A group of ten or twelve upstarts gathered > jeeringly around me. They started discussing all those > alphabets knowingly. Just as I was reeling from all those > body blows, I retaliated with one huge humdinger of a > comeback. A sucker punch to beat all sucker punches. I asked > them a simple question. " You say you must use ABC or XYZ if > the CD4 count comes down. Let me ask you a simple question. > What is the full form of CD, as in CD4 and CD8, and just how > many of these CDs are there? " > > Like a Phoenix rising from the ashes, I proudly tilted my > nose upwards and walked out triumphantly, leaving those guys > to figure out that bouncer. > > PS: I am not going to relieve you of your agony by telling > you the last answer. If you do not know it, you need to read > it up yourself and relive the torture that I went through! > > (The above article was originally published in an edited > version by the British Medical Journal (BMJ): BMJ > 2005;331:1071 (5 November), doi:10.1136/bmj.331.7524.1071 ) > > Kishore Shah 1974 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Thanks Malini, Shyam, Raju, Parveen. Your words are always treasured. And, Shyam, my article is already there in BJO. (Oh! Did you say Brit. Jour. of Ophth.? Sorry! I thought you said " Blow JO.... " Er,, forget it.) Kishore Shah 1974 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 HEARTY CONGRATULATIONS....KISHOREDA. I AM GOING TO LOOK FOR THAT ISSUE. I WONDER IF THERE WERE ANY COMMENTS / RESPONSES FROM VIROLOGISTS /HIV EXPERTS. HATS OFF TO YOU SIR KISSORE ! ASHOK ' 84 Shah wrote: This is my original article: ALIAS (A Landing in an alphabet soup) When I received an invitation to attend a recent conference on HIV management, I never dreamt that I would be landing in a soup, an alphabet soup, to be precise. Until now, I had taken pride in the fact, that as a Gynaecologist, I was part of a bizarre cult which used such exotic short forms as PPH, PID, IUGR, FD* to name a few. (*Post Partum Haemorrhage, Pelvic Inflammatory Disease, Intra Uterine Growth Retardation, Foetal distress.) In fact it was these acronyms, which separated us from ordinary mortals. All medical specialities use short forms or acronyms. However O & G (Obstetrics and Gynaecology) surely beats the nearest contender hollow. So simple doctors just gape at us Gynaecs while we merrily scatter alphabets hither and thither. However, this conference on HIV management really opened my eyes. Until then, I had thought that calling Isoniazid with a short form INH was the height of sophistication. I mean, only an expert could have dreamt of putting an H there. But this HIV conference opened up my senses to another level! Actually, the name itself should have warned me, since it contained the acronym HIV and the sub text had the dreaded alphabets AIDS. The conference began innocuously enough by discussing the demography. Until then the only acronyms used were the oft used and abused HIV and AIDS. That was simple enough. The real action started when we reached the drugs of HIV. There is no drug used in the management of HIV, which does not have a short form of its own. Almost all combinations have now been used up, like web addresses, and the newer discoveries will have to make do with numbers or symbols. Initially, it looked like a piece of cake to me. Yes, Abacavir is called ABC. As simple as, well .., ABC! Atazanavir is called ATV and Indinavir is called IDV. Smooth and easy. No problems till now. Then suddenly the waters started getting murkier. It was as if the bowler, who was throwing straight balls till now, had suddenly bowled a googly. Zidovudine is called AZT. I can understand the Z, but what are A and T doing there. A fleeting thought struck me that maybe AT & T has sponsored that acronym. Just as I was recovering from that puzzler, I was faced with Didanosine and Tenofovir. If I were asked to device their acronyms, I would have said DDN and TNF respectively. However, no one asked me, with the result that Didanosine is called ddl and Tenofovir is TDF. They must have asked somebody with a massive word ataxia. Why doesn't Didanosine have capitals? Is it being punished for the 'sin' in it's name? One of the most intriguing short forms is that for the drug Ritonavir. If I gave you a thousand guesses to think of what it began with, you would not ever be close (unless, of course, you knew beforehand!). The short form is /r. Yes! There is an oblique sign to begin it. It is used to fortify Protease inhibitors. Well, then why isn't it in capital letters? I always thought fortification meant strengthening. Our ship suddenly entered calmer waters when SQV meant Saquinavir. But calm waters run deep. Suddenly we were told that SQV also meant Fortovase. Now, I know you can have two guys called Bush at the same time, but stretching it to drugs is a bit too much. To make matters worse, FTV does not mean Fashion TV, but means Fortovase. Now if you ask why it is also known as SQV, you will be told that Saquinavir can also be called FTV. Just as you are recovering from that blow, you are delivered a knock out punch saying that SQV and FTV can both stand for SGC. This must be a world first. I mean one short form for another short form? Matters got more and more esoteric from thence onwards. Can you guess what ddC and d4T could mean? Yes, we have a number introduced now, as if alphabets alone were not sufficient to confuse us. Well, ddC means Zalcitabine (I knew you would guess that one). While as, d4T means Stavudine. Don't ask me where that 4 comes from and what that weird capitalization is all about. I did not device these short forms. For that matter, do not even think about how FTC can mean Emtricitabine or 3TC can mean Lamivudine. In the old times, Medical people used Greek and Latin to confuse the proletariat. This seems to be an advanced version of the same. At the end of the conference, I was looking suitably humbled and dazed. A group of ten or twelve upstarts gathered jeeringly around me. They started discussing all those alphabets knowingly. Just as I was reeling from all those body blows, I retaliated with one huge humdinger of a comeback. A sucker punch to beat all sucker punches. I asked them a simple question. " You say you must use ABC or XYZ if the CD4 count comes down. Let me ask you a simple question. What is the full form of CD, as in CD4 and CD8, and just how many of these CDs are there? " Like a Phoenix rising from the ashes, I proudly tilted my nose upwards and walked out triumphantly, leaving those guys to figure out that bouncer. PS: I am not going to relieve you of your agony by telling you the last answer. If you do not know it, you need to read it up yourself and relive the torture that I went through! (The above article was originally published in an edited version by the British Medical Journal (BMJ): BMJ 2005;331:1071 (5 November), doi:10.1136/bmj.331.7524.1071 ) Kishore Shah 1974 ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Dear Kishoreda, There is an e-group AIDS - INDIA. I'm sure a number of us would already be members of the group. Just wanted to tell you that your article ALIAS has been forwarded on that group too after being downloaded from bmj. It has your name duly acknowledged though. Anchita (93) > Thanks Malini, Shyam, Raju, Parveen. > > Your words are always treasured. > > And, Shyam, my article is already there in BJO. (Oh! Did you say Brit. Jour. > > of Ophth.? Sorry! I thought you said " Blow JO.... " Er,, forget it.) > > Kishore Shah 1974 > > > > > ------------------------------ > Website: www.mgims.org > ------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Thanks for the info, Anchita. I accessed the web and found that one Joe had forwarded it. Kishore Shah 1974 Re: ALIAS > Dear Kishoreda, > There is an e-group AIDS - INDIA. I'm sure a number of us would > already be members of the group. Just wanted to tell you that your > article ALIAS has been forwarded on that group too after being > downloaded from bmj. It has your name duly acknowledged though. > > Anchita (93) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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