Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I think epinephrine is synthetic adrenaline. Years ago in ERs they just said they were giving a shot of adrenaline and the result was instantaneous and fully effective. I can tell a doctor I'm allergic to albuterol, but that doesn't mean he'll believe I know what I'm talking about. I find it safer to watch out for my allergens and otherwise make sure I don't end up in the emergency room. I am anyway healthiest when I get to basics like avoiding allergens instead of relying on meds to disguise increasing sensitivities until they become dangerous. > > do you know what shot they gave you? > > was it ephenephrine(sp)?? they gave you that cleared it up? > > I know when my allergy shots that I was taking triggered my asthma I ended up in the ER and they had to give me benadryl and a shot of I thought it was ephenephrine for like if you have a bee sting and you are having a reaction, carrying the epi pen helps. > > have you told your PCP or anyone to put albuterol on your allergy list?? > Granada > > > > I totally miss the old days (golly, I sound > like an ancient geezer, but I have been dealing with asthma for 50 > years now), when they just gave a shot of adrenaline. It cleared > the attack up immediately and there was no " rebound " attack an hour > or so later. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I think epinephrine is synthetic adrenaline. Years ago in ERs they just said they were giving a shot of adrenaline and the result was instantaneous and fully effective. I can tell a doctor I'm allergic to albuterol, but that doesn't mean he'll believe I know what I'm talking about. I find it safer to watch out for my allergens and otherwise make sure I don't end up in the emergency room. I am anyway healthiest when I get to basics like avoiding allergens instead of relying on meds to disguise increasing sensitivities until they become dangerous. > > do you know what shot they gave you? > > was it ephenephrine(sp)?? they gave you that cleared it up? > > I know when my allergy shots that I was taking triggered my asthma I ended up in the ER and they had to give me benadryl and a shot of I thought it was ephenephrine for like if you have a bee sting and you are having a reaction, carrying the epi pen helps. > > have you told your PCP or anyone to put albuterol on your allergy list?? > Granada > > > > I totally miss the old days (golly, I sound > like an ancient geezer, but I have been dealing with asthma for 50 > years now), when they just gave a shot of adrenaline. It cleared > the attack up immediately and there was no " rebound " attack an hour > or so later. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I think epinephrine is synthetic adrenaline. Years ago in ERs they just said they were giving a shot of adrenaline and the result was instantaneous and fully effective. I can tell a doctor I'm allergic to albuterol, but that doesn't mean he'll believe I know what I'm talking about. I find it safer to watch out for my allergens and otherwise make sure I don't end up in the emergency room. I am anyway healthiest when I get to basics like avoiding allergens instead of relying on meds to disguise increasing sensitivities until they become dangerous. > > do you know what shot they gave you? > > was it ephenephrine(sp)?? they gave you that cleared it up? > > I know when my allergy shots that I was taking triggered my asthma I ended up in the ER and they had to give me benadryl and a shot of I thought it was ephenephrine for like if you have a bee sting and you are having a reaction, carrying the epi pen helps. > > have you told your PCP or anyone to put albuterol on your allergy list?? > Granada > > > > I totally miss the old days (golly, I sound > like an ancient geezer, but I have been dealing with asthma for 50 > years now), when they just gave a shot of adrenaline. It cleared > the attack up immediately and there was no " rebound " attack an hour > or so later. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Well, I have allergies too though I would hate to see you end up on a ventilator when you are having an asthma attack and can't tell anyone then. I am quite sure they used albuterol on me in the hospital when I kept trying to stay at home and try to control my asthma myself when it wouldn't work. My dh had to take me in. He doesn't know what medications I am on. So I just pray that doesn't happen to you, do they have anything that works to keep your airways open, just the adrenaline (sp)?? Granada >I think epinephrine is synthetic adrenaline. Years ago in ERs they > just said they were giving a shot of adrenaline and the result was > instantaneous and fully effective. > > I can tell a doctor I'm allergic to albuterol, but that doesn't mean > he'll believe I know what I'm talking about. I find it safer to > watch out for my allergens and otherwise make sure I don't end up in > the emergency room. I am anyway healthiest when I get to basics like > avoiding allergens instead of relying on meds to disguise increasing > sensitivities until they become dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 These days I'm using hardly any meds and haven't needed to go the ER in a long time, so my allergy to albuterol doesn't come up much. I hear the thing is to ask for Xylonex instead. Right now I am more or less healthy, which is even better than being well-medicated. When I manage to avoid allergens and otherwise head off all attacks for a while, I find I become more resistant and less likely to respond with an attack even when I do run into one of my asthma triggers. My airways are presently in a pretty good place, so my main concern is keeping them there so I won't have to deal with emergencies. > > Well, I have allergies too though I would hate to see you end up on a > ventilator when you are having an asthma attack and can't tell anyone then. > > I am quite sure they used albuterol on me in the hospital when I kept trying > to stay at home and try to control my asthma myself when it wouldn't work. > > My dh had to take me in. > > He doesn't know what medications I am on. > > So I just pray that doesn't happen to you, do they have anything that works > to keep your airways open, just the adrenaline (sp)?? > > Granada > > > > > >I think epinephrine is synthetic adrenaline. Years ago in ERs they > > just said they were giving a shot of adrenaline and the result was > > instantaneous and fully effective. > > > > I can tell a doctor I'm allergic to albuterol, but that doesn't mean > > he'll believe I know what I'm talking about. I find it safer to > > watch out for my allergens and otherwise make sure I don't end up in > > the emergency room. I am anyway healthiest when I get to basics like > > avoiding allergens instead of relying on meds to disguise increasing > > sensitivities until they become dangerous. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 If your daughter won't speak up, you need to go & have a talk w/the gym teacher. Make sure you bring a note from the dr. stating that your daughter is not to run in gym class. If he (or she) sees it in writing and from the dr., they will be more likely to cooperate. But your daughter needs to learn to speak up for herself!!Granada wrote: My dd is having problems with gym class.Now she takes her albuterol 2 puffs before class.She is now on Advair 500/50 for over a week now.We see the doctor tomorrow. it was my appt but i switched cause i am so upset with the gym teacher for allowing her to run in class. she is so shy that she won't tell him that she is having problems and i don't know what to do about that. G "I've learned that no matter what happens, or how bad it seems today, life does go on, and it will be better tomorrow." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Why aren't you asking for the 504 plan? That is the only thing that will make them cooperate. You can send all the emails you want and have your husband talks to him till he's blue in the face but it won't protect your child. I don't understand why after several people told you to request the 504 plan you haven't done it. Rhonda~ Re: allergic to albuterol I know she has to stand up for herself but you would think another adult wouldn't let her go thru this stuff. Rather than have her pass out on him because she is shy and has a hard time talking to the teachers about not just this, their is another issue too but I tried to tell her then you have to work out something with the teacher. The school got a fax from the doctor over a week ago stating that she was not to do any exertional exercises until she is evaluated by her appt in 2 weeks, (I moved it up though) I already wrote a horrid email to the gym teacher(sent it to the principal too) and this last time I had my husband talk to him. I am so upset about this that I am ready to go off on him because I don't understand why they don't listen to a piece of paper. She doesn't have gym today, thank goodness so...have to go to the doctor this morning by 11am and hopefully we can get some answers or some help from the doctor. Granada If your daughter won't speak up, you need to go & have a talk w/the gym teacher. Make sure you bring a note from the dr. stating that your daughter is not to run in gym class. If he (or she) sees it in writing and from the dr., they will be more likely to cooperate. But your daughter needs to learn to speak up for herself!!Granada <robert_g54463frontiernet (DOT) net> wrote: My dd is having problems with gym class.Now she takes her albuterol 2 puffs before class.She is now on Advair 500/50 for over a week now.We see the doctor tomorrow. it was my appt but i switched cause i am so upset with the gym teacher for allowing her to run in class. she is so shy that she won't tell him that she is having problems and i don't know what to do about that. G "I've learned that no matter what happens, or how bad it seems today, life does go on, and it will be better tomorrow." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 I agree... Even if she is young and shy (I was both, once LOL)anyone with a chronic condition needs to be able to take initiative in controlling it - not just a gym, but at all times. A child who is allergic to something would be expected to say they cannot eat it...so should a asthmatic when it is needed. Now, to play devils advocate, I can think back to when I was in school, and all the times kids tried to get out of gym because they had cramps, or were sick, you get the point. A teacher has heard them all. You need to sit down with the teacher, with documentation from the Dr, and discuss your daughters health issue. Then, I would suggest trying to get your daughter to be more assertive in her dealings as well. Kris , My dd is having problems with gym class. > > Now she takes her albuterol 2 puffs before class. > > She is now on Advair 500/50 for over a week now. > > We see the doctor tomorrow. it was my appt but i switched cause i am so > upset with the gym teacher for allowing her to run in class. she is so shy > that she won't tell him that she is having problems and i don't know what to > do about that. > > G > > > > > > > " I've learned that no matter what happens, or how bad it seems today, life does go on, and it will be better tomorrow. " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 I don't want to rock the boat with them too much, that is also why I didn't talk to the gym teacher this last time because I start bi & ^%ing at them and get upset. I signed a Hatch agreement and they freaked out. Why aren't you asking for the 504 plan? That is the only thing that will make them cooperate. You can send all the emails you want and have your husband talks to him till he's blue in the face but it won't protect your child. I don't understand why after several people told you to request the 504 plan you haven't done it. Rhonda~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Are you kidding? in all honesty I am very concerned by the things I have seen written here by you. I don't like to post like this but we're talking about a child here. If you don't want to follow someone's advice about your own health that's fine but not "wanting to rock the boat" regarding your CHILDS health issues is bordering on neglect. Yeah that's a harsh word but you are the only person able to speak up for your child. Sending her to school where she will be subject to a PE teacher who is not aware or unwilling to follow what is needed to keep her safe is careless. You asked for advice here yet you are unwilling to follow through. We can't hold your hand. YOU have to advocate for your child and I'm very dissapointed to see you are unwilling to do that. I wish you well. Rhonda~ Re: allergic to albuterol I don't want to rock the boat with them too much, that is also why I didn't talk to the gym teacher this last time because I start bi & ^%ing at them and get upset. I signed a Hatch agreement and they freaked out. Why aren't you asking for the 504 plan? That is the only thing that will make them cooperate. You can send all the emails you want and have your husband talks to him till he's blue in the face but it won't protect your child. I don't understand why after several people told you to request the 504 plan you haven't done it. Rhonda~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 If the gym teacher and principal aren't even listening to the parents or the doctor a shy kid hasn't got a chance of being listened to. Could you pick her up from school between classes and bring her back after PE? They wouldn't like that much, but they might catch on that you mean business. > My dd is having problems with gym class. > > Now she takes her albuterol 2 puffs before class. > > She is now on Advair 500/50 for over a week now. > > We see the doctor tomorrow. it was my appt but i switched cause i am so > upset with the gym teacher for allowing her to run in class. she is so shy > that she won't tell him that she is having problems and i don't know what to > do about that. > > G > > > > > > > " I've learned that no matter what happens, or how bad it seems today, life does go on, and it will be better tomorrow. " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 that is true and we have done that in the past. I just don't know what reason to give for doing that too much. once i told them a doc appt, and another time, she told them she was sick > If the gym teacher and principal aren't even listening to the > parents or the doctor a shy kid hasn't got a chance of being > listened to. Could you pick her up from school between classes and > bring her back after PE? They wouldn't like that much, but they > might catch on that you mean business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 who said i was unwilling to do that I am doing what I can in the situation I have. And my husband is involved as well so... you don't know everything, only what i have posted. Are you kidding? in all honesty I am very concerned by the things I have seen written here by you. I don't like to post like this but we're talking about a child here. If you don't want to follow someone's advice about your own health that's fine but not "wanting to rock the boat" regarding your CHILDS health issues is bordering on neglect. Yeah that's a harsh word but you are the only person able to speak up for your child. Sending her to school where she will be subject to a PE teacher who is not aware or unwilling to follow what is needed to keep her safe is careless. You asked for advice here yet you are unwilling to follow through. We can't hold your hand. YOU have to advocate for your child and I'm very dissapointed to see you are unwilling to do that. I wish you well. Rhonda~ Re: allergic to albuterol I don't want to rock the boat with them too much, that is also why I didn't talk to the gym teacher this last time because I start bi & ^%ing at them and get upset. I signed a Hatch agreement and they freaked out. Why aren't you asking for the 504 plan? That is the only thing that will make them cooperate. You can send all the emails you want and have your husband talks to him till he's blue in the face but it won't protect your child. I don't understand why after several people told you to request the 504 plan you haven't done it. Rhonda~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Your situation is no different than every other child and parent in this country, assuming you are in the US. 504 is FEDERAL law. YOU say you don't want to rock the boat. To me that says you are unwilling to do what is necasary to keep your child safe in school. Unless there is something you aren't telling us I can only come to the conclusion that you are telling us that your child has asthma so severe that it effects her negatively during PE and puts her at risk. You asked for advice and you were told exactly what to do and you have not done it. People before you hired lawyers and got this law put into place for people like you and me. The school can throw all the hissy fits they want...they have no choice. Your husband does not have the power to make them do anything, 504 does. Please stop with the excuses. I just spent half my day at my DD's school fine tuning her action plan for her new teacher to make sure she can attend school safely. If we were not able to come to an understanding then I would have gladly pulled her from the school and homeschooled her. I've done it before with my older kids and will do it again in a heartbeat. Rhonda~ Re: allergic to albuterol I don't want to rock the boat with them too much, that is also why I didn't talk to the gym teacher this last time because I start bi & ^%ing at them and get upset. I signed a Hatch agreement and they freaked out. Why aren't you asking for the 504 plan? That is the only thing that will make them cooperate. You can send all the emails you want and have your husband talks to him till he's blue in the face but it won't protect your child. I don't understand why after several people told you to request the 504 plan you haven't done it. Rhonda~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 - I hate to be critical, but it seems like you asked for advice, and have received some excellent advice from many on this list. But, you appear to making excuses instead of listening to them. I am not sure what it is you are looking for in the way of advice, and although I can't speak from experience (SINK), I have to agree with Rhonda...I would beg, borrow and steal to make sure that my children are getting the proper treatment. I don't mean this to be nasty, but I am trying to help. Kris > > Are you kidding? > > in all honesty I am very concerned by the things I have seen written here by you. I don't like to post like this but we're talking about a child here. If you don't want to follow someone's advice about your own health that's fine but not " wanting to rock the boat " regarding your CHILDS health issues is bordering on neglect. Yeah that's a harsh word but you are the only person able to speak up for your child. Sending her to school where she will be subject to a PE teacher who is not aware or unwilling to follow what is needed to keep her safe is careless. You asked for advice here yet you are unwilling to follow through. We can't hold your hand. YOU have to advocate for your child and I'm very dissapointed to see you are unwilling to do that. > > I wish you well. > > Rhonda~ > > > Re: allergic to albuterol > > > > I don't want to rock the boat with them too much, that is also why I didn't talk to the gym teacher this last time because I start bi & ^%ing at them and get upset. > > I signed a Hatch agreement and they freaked out. > > > Why aren't you asking for the 504 plan? That is the only thing that will make them cooperate. You can send all the emails you want and have your husband talks to him till he's blue in the face but it won't protect your child. I don't understand why after several people told you to request the 504 plan you haven't done it. > > Rhonda~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Some states do come at you with a "price" if you advocate too hard for your child. I mean a "price" that can even cost you your children if you rub the authorities the wrong way. Having said that, I did/do whatever it takes for my child (whom has a brain malformation, but is pretty much fine now), but it was a fight that cost us a LOT in the past! I agree that you need a 504, an IEP, and whatever it takes to keep the school on top of your child's well-being, but you need to go about it the right way. Meaning try ALL the advice the group has given , and then adapt everything to what is best for your personal case. Re: allergic to albuterol I don't want to rock the boat with them too much, that is also why I didn't talk to the gym teacher this last time because I start bi & ^%ing at them and get upset. I signed a Hatch agreement and they freaked out. Why aren't you asking for the 504 plan? That is the only thing that will make them cooperate. You can send all the emails you want and have your husband talks to him till he's blue in the face but it won't protect your child. I don't understand why after several people told you to request the 504 plan you haven't done it. Rhonda~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 The only catch to that is the fact that I have already hocked the house once and the House payment is already almost 1,000 and we own it. I don't want to have to lose the house too and be homeless. I would take them out of that school if I could but that means moving again > I hate to be critical, but it seems like you asked for advice, and > have received some excellent advice from many on this list. But, > you appear to making excuses instead of listening to them. I am not > sure what it is you are looking for in the way of advice, and > although I can't speak from experience (SINK), I have to agree with > Rhonda...I would beg, borrow and steal to make sure that my children > are getting the proper treatment. I don't mean this to be nasty, > but I am trying to help. > > Kris > > >> >> Are you kidding? >> >> in all honesty I am very concerned by the things I have > seen written here by you. I don't like to post like this but we're > talking about a child here. If you don't want to follow someone's > advice about your own health that's fine but not " wanting to rock > the boat " regarding your CHILDS health issues is bordering on > neglect. Yeah that's a harsh word but you are the only person able > to speak up for your child. Sending her to school where she will be > subject to a PE teacher who is not aware or unwilling to follow what > is needed to keep her safe is careless. You asked for advice here > yet you are unwilling to follow through. We can't hold your hand. > YOU have to advocate for your child and I'm very dissapointed to see > you are unwilling to do that. >> >> I wish you well. >> >> Rhonda~ >> >> >> Re: allergic to albuterol >> >> >> >> I don't want to rock the boat with them too much, that is also > why I didn't talk to the gym teacher this last time because I start > bi & ^%ing at them and get upset. >> >> I signed a Hatch agreement and they freaked out. >> >> >> Why aren't you asking for the 504 plan? That is the only thing > that will make them cooperate. You can send all the emails you want > and have your husband talks to him till he's blue in the face but it > won't protect your child. I don't understand why after several > people told you to request the 504 plan you haven't done it. >> >> Rhonda~ >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 , the first thing you have to do is get a note from her Dr. stating that taking gym class will endanger the child's health, and that it is forbidden. You go to the principal, NOT the gym teacher with the note in hand, give it to him (or her) and very calmly state (take a deep breath and stay focused) that unless the school wants a lawsuit on their hands for child endangerment, they will keep your child out of gym class. They can decide whether to send her to the library, or just let her sit in the classroom and study, but she is ABSOLUTELY FORBIDEN TO PARTICIPATE IN GYM CLASS!! Then you tell the principal to make sure the gym teacher cooperates, or you will have to go over his (or her) head, and contact the school superintendant. The principal will not want you to do this, because it makes him (or her) look like they not doing their job, and can't control their teachers. Tell the principal that you want the gym classes discontinued immediately. You don't need to yell and scream, just speak in a firm voice, look them straight in the eye, and most of all, KEEP YOUR COMPOSURE!! Yelling will get you nowhere, but if you are serious & firm with them, they will cooperate. Just make the statement "I would really hate to have to take this to a higher level, but my attorney is a phone call away. Get this taken care of as soon as possible, for the sake of your child!!! Good luck, and remember, you get more out of people if you are serious, but when you yell & scream, it makes things worse, because then they get defensive, and may decide that you're bluffing. DON'T LET THEM WALK ALL OVER YOU!!! This is your child's well being we're talking about, and she needs you to take care of this situation NOW!!! >>>> Re: allergic to albuterol>>>>>>>> I don't want to rock the boat with them too much, that is also> why I didn't talk to the gym teacher this last time because I start> bi & ^%ing at them and get upset.>>>> I signed a Hatch agreement and they freaked out.>> >>>> Why aren't you asking for the 504 plan? That is the only thing> that will make them cooperate. You can send all the emails you want> and have your husband talks to him till he's blue in the face but it> won't protect your child. I don't understand why after several> people told you to request the 504 plan you haven't done it.>>>> Rhonda~>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Have you considered a political approach? It's mid-October before an election. Is there perhaps a school board member who's interested in at least appearing to listen to the folks he's supposed to represent? Principals will listen to school board members before they'll listen to parents. Is there a local newspaper that would happily feature your school's unresponsiveness or at least publish a letter to the editor about it? Both of these approaches have some possibility of immediate results, and neither would cost anything to implement. > > The only catch to that is the fact that I have already hocked the house once > and the House payment is already almost 1,000 and we own it. I don't want to > have to lose the house too and be homeless. > I would take them out of that school if I could but that means moving again > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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