Re: Re: I don't like this one!!!!!

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What are *positive* thoughts and what are *negative* thoughts?

I chose thoughts that make me feel good, and I don't even know whether they

are positive or negative. They are just thoughts that make me feel at peace

with myself. I am not the judge. Is there a judge?

RE: Re: I don't like this one!!!!!

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> This is not the Work to me. There is nowhere I have ever heard

> speak of thinking thoughts so that SOMETHING will manifest. I don't see

> the purpose of this life as being here to create a better dream. It's

> about waking up from the dream - the dream of fucking separation. And

> I'm angry that I'm not able to wax poetic about what I believe,the way

> others can. I'm angry that after years of doing the Work and everything

> before that I am still struggling with my life and my mind and then

> comes in and tells me to think positive thoughts. And L.

> and Tepet agree with her. And I'm pissed off at and others for not

> coming in and setting the record straight about what the fuck we are

> doing here on this planet.

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> And now after writing that I feel a bit calmer.

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> Love, Margaret

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> ---I think part of your reaction to " think positive thoughts " is similar

> to my own for maybe the following reasons. It's only part of the

> solution used by people with no answers, to appear to have one. Somehow,

> I don't think that's the direction this idea is going here. If

> said that though, I can forgive her...because right behind that she

> gives us tools to " love reality " and bore deeper into the truth and

> understand it better, which includes " negative thoughts " too.

> Affirmations try to drum out natural thought processes and pound

> something up the ass of the unconscious whether it wants it or not. To

> me...that's intrusive and ineffective...but that's my experience, not

> " what is " . My father-in-law cured himself of debilitating arthritis with

> affirmations. gives us a more elegant solution. It makes sense to

> me to not simply " think positive " but to do the work so thoroughly

> nothing operates in opposition to itself. Everything is where it's

> supposed to be doing what it's supposed to be doing. That's pretty

> " positive " to me.

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> --- " Thinking positive " on the other hand is to me, connected to the

> experience of having your house burn down, the dog get run over, your

> job go bankrupt and your hemorrhoids flare up and someone perks up from

> their stupor and chirps " think positive " . Sometimes I've had to

> seriously check the impulse to kill. But then hands me these fours

> questions and says in so many words, " So you can't think positive,

> explore that...and you may find the ability you already have to

> articulate brilliantly why " (of course to find our a little more

> accurately what " says " you need to buy her books and tapes).

> Thinking negatively is also a part of " what is " , and if we're to " Love

> What Is " , I think we need to allow negative thoughts to find their own

> way to their polar opposite...if that's their direction. Shaking and

> choking our thought process into " positive " ones just makes the poor

> things loll their tongues, flash the whites of their eyes and pass out.

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> ---So I understand your frustration. And while " thinking positive " may

> be a part of the itinerary here, there's more to it than the wave of the

> hand and the roll of the eyes you may be used to in other places, I'm

> pretty sure of that. Besides...I think you made your point eloquently

> enough. I got it...I believe. Others did too I bet. They're just not

> talking. But in our silence too we can indulge ourselves in the " fuck

> positive thoughts club " and no one will know the difference. Who knows

> what people do " the Work " on, in the privacy of their own homes?

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> ---Please don't be mad at me for not " setting the record straight " right

> away. I was in on the toilet when the question came up and missed the

> thread. And I hope you're laughing.

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