LONG - blown-off by doc

[Guest guest]

Okay, I'm fine now (for the moment anyway) and able to think clearly enough

about the

events of the last two-and-a-half days to be very angry! I'm just wondering if

anyone has

any feedback about my doc's office because I'm VERY angry now that I'm putting

the whole

thing together in my head. Keep in mind that I like my doc very much, but she

is very

hard to get an appt with. I called a week or two ago wanting to get in because

of a flare

and they said my appt on Jan. 12th was the best they could do. I called several

days after

that with pain and they called-in some Darvocet. This past Thursday afternoon,

my knee

began to hurt and got to the point on Friday that I couldn't walk without

assistance and I

was in excruciating pain. I called the doc office and they were closed until

Tuesday. The

answering service gave me a very pat, matter-of-fact " we're closed until

Tuesday " . When I

pressed on, I got " the doctor on call doesn't call-in pain medications " . I

didn't even ASK

for pain medications! When I told the answering service that I was pregnant, it

was like

she was terrified to page the doctor. I wouldn't let up, saying that I wanted

to speak with a

doctor and she finally said she would have the on-call physician call me, but

that she

wasn't going to tell him that I was pregnant (presumably because he would be

angry with

her for bothering him with someone he can't prescribe drugs to, even though,

according

to her, he won't prescribe anything over the phone anyway). So, this doc

obviously sees

his role as to use a prescription pad and THAT'S ALL - that he has NO other

service,

wisdom, comfort, expertise to offer???!!! Anyway, he called and I explained my

situation.

He said I could probably take the Darvocet if I really needed it, but he asked

me NO

questions, gave me NO advice on whether or not to move my knee or use hot/cold

therapy

or increase prednisone or knee brace or ANYTHING. i find these things out from

my online

buddies. He said if I had to be seen,

go the ER.

He didn't mention that pregnant women can't get cortizone injections. I had no

idea about

this until my husband found this out from Walgreen's. Good thing I didn't spend

a painful

day at the ER only to be informed of that and CHARGED for it! I guess you have

to let them hear you in your full dramatic, screeching

agony before they " get it " . that's sad. i plan to

tell my regular rheumy all about it, along with my

frustration about not being able to get appts with her

when I really need them. i like her so much, but i

cannot con't to use a doc that i can't see when i'm

most in need. i'm also going to talk to her about how

i tend to be doing really well when i see her in the

office and that i'm so conscious of drug-seeking (I

work in psychiatry) that i'm downplaying my own pain,

at times when i really should make quite a fuss,

because i'm so worried they'll think i'm just

drug-seeking. anyway, what do any of you think about my on-call experience??

[Guest guest]

what--- In , " R. Peek " <wendyhollander@y...>

wrote:

>

> Okay, I'm fine now (for the moment anyway) and able to think clearly enough

> about the

> events of the last two-and-a-half days to be very angry! I'm just wondering if

> anyone has

> any feedback about my doc's office because I'm VERY angry now that I'm putting

> the whole

> thing together in my head. Keep in mind that I like my doc very much, but she

> is very

> hard to get an appt with. I called a week or two ago wanting to get in because

> of a flare

> and they said my appt on Jan. 12th was the best they could do. I called

several

> days after

> that with pain and they called-in some Darvocet. This past Thursday afternoon,

> my knee

> began to hurt and got to the point on Friday that I couldn't walk without

> assistance and I

> was in excruciating pain. I called the doc office and they were closed until

> Tuesday. The

> answering service gave me a very pat, matter-of-fact " we're closed until

> Tuesday " . When I

> pressed on, I got " the doctor on call doesn't call-in pain medications " . I

> didn't even ASK

> for pain medications! When I told the answering service that I was pregnant,

it

> was like

> she was terrified to page the doctor. I wouldn't let up, saying that I wanted

> to speak with a

> doctor and she finally said she would have the on-call physician call me, but

> that she

> wasn't going to tell him that I was pregnant (presumably because he would be

> angry with

> her for bothering him with someone he can't prescribe drugs to, even though,

> according

> to her, he won't prescribe anything over the phone anyway). So, this doc

> obviously sees

> his role as to use a prescription pad and THAT'S ALL - that he has NO other

> service,

> wisdom, comfort, expertise to offer???!!! Anyway, he called and I explained my

> situation.

> He said I could probably take the Darvocet if I really needed it, but he asked

> me NO

> questions, gave me NO advice on whether or not to move my knee or use hot/cold

> therapy

> or increase prednisone or knee brace or ANYTHING. i find these things out from

my

online

> buddies. He said if I had to be seen,

> go the ER.

> He didn't mention that pregnant women can't get cortizone injections. I had no

> idea about

> this until my husband found this out from Walgreen's. Good thing I didn't

spend

> a painful

> day at the ER only to be informed of that and CHARGED for it! I guess you have

> to let them hear you in your full dramatic, screeching

> agony before they " get it " . that's sad. i plan to

> tell my regular rheumy all about it, along with my

> frustration about not being able to get appts with her

> when I really need them. i like her so much, but i

> cannot con't to use a doc that i can't see when i'm

> most in need. i'm also going to talk to her about how

> i tend to be doing really well when i see her in the

> office and that i'm so conscious of drug-seeking (I

> work in psychiatry) that i'm downplaying my own pain,

> at times when i really should make quite a fuss,

> because i'm so worried they'll think i'm just

> drug-seeking. anyway, what do any of you think about my on-call experience??

>

hi from lynn8953-i think you have gone through one of many frustrating doc

problems

that we all have to go through--i should imaine if you are pregnant you shuld've

called

your obgyn re;pain meds-to be safe..as far as telling you to go to the er-thats

usually

what they tell you cause they dont know you and dont want to order anything....i

am a

nurse myself and still get treated like an idiot--be carefull about ''what you

learn from

friends " " that also can be very dangerous--i have talked to some online who know

all the

medical terminology but have no idea whats going on inside their bodies or the

disease

process...be careful..you must be considered a high risk pregancy cause i hear

words like

'prednisone' 'darvocet' ect...in your letter-i cant believe you dont have and

oby/gyn that

you can reach anytime.....and if you are looking for compassion and caring and

support

from an on call doc you are wasting your time....you will be luckey if you can

find that in

your rheumy or pcp...and just because a doctor is''nice'' doesnt mean they are

good--so of

the most miserable doc there are -are the best in knowledge...good

luck....lynn8953

[Guest guest]

,

You on call experience is NOT typical. Usually when a doc takes call

its one of the docs within a practice. When sit rheumatology they

should discuss all the cases at " rounds " . I have no idea what kind

of doc this was that she called for you...sounds like a quack.

I would get in to see an OB doc and get a referral to a

perinatologist if you can. You case is going to be complicated due

to your RA and probably needs for meds throughout the pregnancy.

Then the two docs need to confer on what is best for you. Most docs

will NOT prescribe anything to a pregnanct women...they make the OB

doc control all meds....its liability issue....so hussle on in to see

the OB and get the ball rolling.

Toni

>

> Okay, I'm fine now (for the moment anyway) and able to think

clearly enough

> about the

> events of the last two-and-a-half days to be very angry! I'm just

wondering if

> anyone has

> any feedback about my doc's office because I'm VERY angry now that

I'm putting

> the whole

> thing together in my head. Keep in mind that I like my doc very

much, but she

> is very

> hard to get an appt with. I called a week or two ago wanting to get

in because

> of a flare

> and they said my appt on Jan. 12th was the best they could do. I

called several

> days after

> that with pain and they called-in some Darvocet. This past Thursday

afternoon,

> my knee

> began to hurt and got to the point on Friday that I couldn't walk

without

> assistance and I

> was in excruciating pain. I called the doc office and they were

closed until

> Tuesday. The

> answering service gave me a very pat, matter-of-fact " we're closed

until

> Tuesday " . When I

> pressed on, I got " the doctor on call doesn't call-in pain

medications " . I

> didn't even ASK

> for pain medications! When I told the answering service that I was

pregnant, it

> was like

> she was terrified to page the doctor. I wouldn't let up, saying

that I wanted

> to speak with a

> doctor and she finally said she would have the on-call physician

call me, but

> that she

> wasn't going to tell him that I was pregnant (presumably because he

would be

> angry with

> her for bothering him with someone he can't prescribe drugs to,

even though,

> according

> to her, he won't prescribe anything over the phone anyway). So,

this doc

> obviously sees

> his role as to use a prescription pad and THAT'S ALL - that he has

NO other

> service,

> wisdom, comfort, expertise to offer???!!! Anyway, he called and I

explained my

> situation.

> He said I could probably take the Darvocet if I really needed it,

but he asked

> me NO

> questions, gave me NO advice on whether or not to move my knee or

use hot/cold

> therapy

> or increase prednisone or knee brace or ANYTHING. i find these

things out from my online

> buddies. He said if I had to be seen,

> go the ER.

> He didn't mention that pregnant women can't get cortizone

injections. I had no

> idea about

> this until my husband found this out from Walgreen's. Good thing I

didn't spend

> a painful

> day at the ER only to be informed of that and CHARGED for it! I

guess you have

> to let them hear you in your full dramatic, screeching

> agony before they " get it " . that's sad. i plan to

> tell my regular rheumy all about it, along with my

> frustration about not being able to get appts with her

> when I really need them. i like her so much, but i

> cannot con't to use a doc that i can't see when i'm

> most in need. i'm also going to talk to her about how

> i tend to be doing really well when i see her in the

> office and that i'm so conscious of drug-seeking (I

> work in psychiatry) that i'm downplaying my own pain,

> at times when i really should make quite a fuss,

> because i'm so worried they'll think i'm just

> drug-seeking. anyway, what do any of you think about my on-call

experience??

>

[Guest guest]

our ER just pages our normal doc anyway- and our ER tells us straight out they

only take care of life threatening emergencies, and they have us sign a paper

absolving them from any liability concerning dx, mostreatments etc based on idea

they only treat a life threatening emergency anyway...

BUT when I cannot get a doc to answer and if I think we need help NOW..and

answering service won't page doc.then I do go to ER and tell ER hey my docs

answering service would not page our doc. I am only a lay person and I sure do

not know just what a life threatening emergency is but hey I am in pain.....and

I am in pain NOW. I am sorry my pain does not hold any regard for my docs

office hours or scheduling abilites.

Truth is, I am a nurse. But people have the right to have pain treated NOW>

(unless there is a reason they need the pain to reach a dx)

Bummer is I had a nasty fast flareup of fingers on Labor Day..it came so hard

and fast my rings got stuck on my fingers. I had to get them cut off. I went

to ER and said I know I have RA and I am having a flare, and I need my rings cut

off (my fingers were turning black already- within 2 hours and I had tried every

known way to get them off already) ER insisted I HAD to see doc, I HAD to go

thru all this red tape- had to have dx confirmed- oh but then since they are an

ER they cannot anymore confirm a chronic dx...I was like hey look, I only need

the rings cut off, I want no other treatment, I need no other treatment...I just

need your ring cutter tool....everywhere else who might have a ring cutter tool

is closed right now and the rings need to come off NOW or I WILL be having a

medical emergency.

I do NOT need labs and xrays etc. Grrr. Policy is policy....we have to follow

rules.

$1500 dollars in medical care later....and 6 HOURS later- my rings were a huge

sad mess.....(they did not know how to use the ring cutter, broke my finger in

the process and then mangled my rings so bad the jeweler could not repair them)

I don't like our ER (have many other horror stories as well, and 3 friends who

sued our ER and won...)

BUT if my doc is unreachable- I will go to ER. People should not have to just

sit it out if they have severe pain. (unless the pain cannot be managed)

- In , " lynn8953 " <lynn8953@y...> wrote:

>

> what

> >

> > Okay, I'm fine now (for the moment anyway) and able to think clearly enough

> > about the

> > events of the last two-and-a-half days to be very angry! I'm just wondering

if

> > anyone has

> > any feedback about my doc's office because I'm VERY angry now that I'm

putting

> > the whole

> > thing together in my head. Keep in mind that I like my doc very much, but

she

> > is very

> > hard to get an appt with. I called a week or two ago wanting to get in

because

> > of a flare

> > and they said my appt on Jan. 12th was the best they could do. I called

several

> > days after

> > that with pain and they called-in some Darvocet. This past Thursday

afternoon,

> > my knee

> > began to hurt and got to the point on Friday that I couldn't walk without

> > assistance and I

> > was in excruciating pain. I called the doc office and they were closed until

> > Tuesday. The

> > answering service gave me a very pat, matter-of-fact " we're closed until

> > Tuesday " . When I

> > pressed on, I got " the doctor on call doesn't call-in pain medications " . I

> > didn't even ASK

> > for pain medications! When I told the answering service that I was pregnant,

it

> > was like

> > she was terrified to page the doctor. I wouldn't let up, saying that I

wanted

> > to speak with a

> > doctor and she finally said she would have the on-call physician call me,

but

> > that she

> > wasn't going to tell him that I was pregnant (presumably because he would be

> > angry with

> > her for bothering him with someone he can't prescribe drugs to, even though,

> > according

> > to her, he won't prescribe anything over the phone anyway). So, this doc

> > obviously sees

> > his role as to use a prescription pad and THAT'S ALL - that he has NO other

> > service,

> > wisdom, comfort, expertise to offer???!!! Anyway, he called and I explained

my

> > situation.

> > He said I could probably take the Darvocet if I really needed it, but he

asked

> > me NO

> > questions, gave me NO advice on whether or not to move my knee or use

hot/cold

> > therapy

> > or increase prednisone or knee brace or ANYTHING. i find these things out

from my

> online

> > buddies. He said if I had to be seen,

> > go the ER.

> > He didn't mention that pregnant women can't get cortizone injections. I had

no

> > idea about

> > this until my husband found this out from Walgreen's. Good thing I didn't

spend

> > a painful

> > day at the ER only to be informed of that and CHARGED for it! I guess you

have

> > to let them hear you in your full dramatic, screeching

> > agony before they " get it " . that's sad. i plan to

> > tell my regular rheumy all about it, along with my

> > frustration about not being able to get appts with her

> > when I really need them. i like her so much, but i

> > cannot con't to use a doc that i can't see when i'm

> > most in need. i'm also going to talk to her about how

> > i tend to be doing really well when i see her in the

> > office and that i'm so conscious of drug-seeking (I

> > work in psychiatry) that i'm downplaying my own pain,

> > at times when i really should make quite a fuss,

> > because i'm so worried they'll think i'm just

> > drug-seeking. anyway, what do any of you think about my on-call experience??

> >

>

> hi from lynn8953-i think you have gone through one of many frustrating doc

problems

> that we all have to go through--i should imaine if you are pregnant you

shuld've called

> your obgyn re;pain meds-to be safe..as far as telling you to go to the

er-thats usually

> what they tell you cause they dont know you and dont want to order

anything....i am a

> nurse myself and still get treated like an idiot--be carefull about ''what you

learn from

> friends " " that also can be very dangerous--i have talked to some online who

know all the

> medical terminology but have no idea whats going on inside their bodies or the

disease

> process...be careful..you must be considered a high risk pregancy cause i hear

words like

> 'prednisone' 'darvocet' ect...in your letter-i cant believe you dont have and

oby/gyn that

> you can reach anytime.....and if you are looking for compassion and caring

and support

> from an on call doc you are wasting your time....you will be luckey if you can

find that in

> your rheumy or pcp...and just because a doctor is''nice'' doesnt mean they are

good--so of

> the most miserable doc there are -are the best in knowledge...good

luck....lynn8953

>

[Guest guest]

I know what you mean my rheumy is also by herself, but she usually has a nurse

on duty and will call her at home if need be. I love my clinic I go to for

everything else.

Doctors and even emergency same day clinic all in same building so they always

have your records. If you can't see your doctor they will send you to the same

day clinic. If you take yourself to the same day clinic on a weekend or at night

the notify your regular doctor about was was going. I hate the fact that they

don;t have a rheumy Right now. He had a stroke,and is not pr acting right now.

If he comes back I am not going back to him, but if they get a different one I

might switch back, It is just soooo.. much easier ti combine all your medical

care that way. in WI

lynn8953 <lynn8953@...> wrote:

what--- In , " R. Peek " <wendyhollander@y...>

wrote:

>

> Okay, I'm fine now (for the moment anyway) and able to think clearly enough

> about the

> events of the last two-and-a-half days to be very angry! I'm just wondering if

> anyone has

> any feedback about my doc's office because I'm VERY angry now that I'm putting

> the whole

> thing together in my head. Keep in mind that I like my doc very much, but she

> is very

> hard to get an appt with. I called a week or two ago wanting to get in because

> of a flare

> and they said my appt on Jan. 12th was the best they could do. I called

several

> days after

> that with pain and they called-in some Darvocet. This past Thursday afternoon,

> my knee

> began to hurt and got to the point on Friday that I couldn't walk without

> assistance and I

> was in excruciating pain. I called the doc office and they were closed until

> Tuesday. The

> answering service gave me a very pat, matter-of-fact " we're closed until

> Tuesday " . When I

> pressed on, I got " the doctor on call doesn't call-in pain medications " . I

> didn't even ASK

> for pain medications! When I told the answering service that I was pregnant,

it

> was like

> she was terrified to page the doctor. I wouldn't let up, saying that I wanted

> to speak with a

> doctor and she finally said she would have the on-call physician call me, but

> that she

> wasn't going to tell him that I was pregnant (presumably because he would be

> angry with

> her for bothering him with someone he can't prescribe drugs to, even though,

> according

> to her, he won't prescribe anything over the phone anyway). So, this doc

> obviously sees

> his role as to use a prescription pad and THAT'S ALL - that he has NO other

> service,

> wisdom, comfort, expertise to offer???!!! Anyway, he called and I explained my

> situation.

> He said I could probably take the Darvocet if I really needed it, but he asked

> me NO

> questions, gave me NO advice on whether or not to move my knee or use hot/cold

> therapy

> or increase prednisone or knee brace or ANYTHING. i find these things out from

my

online

> buddies. He said if I had to be seen,

> go the ER.

> He didn't mention that pregnant women can't get cortizone injections. I had no

> idea about

> this until my husband found this out from Walgreen's. Good thing I didn't

spend

> a painful

> day at the ER only to be informed of that and CHARGED for it! I guess you have

> to let them hear you in your full dramatic, screeching

> agony before they " get it " . that's sad. i plan to

> tell my regular rheumy all about it, along with my

> frustration about not being able to get appts with her

> when I really need them. i like her so much, but i

> cannot con't to use a doc that i can't see when i'm

> most in need. i'm also going to talk to her about how

> i tend to be doing really well when i see her in the

> office and that i'm so conscious of drug-seeking (I

> work in psychiatry) that i'm downplaying my own pain,

> at times when i really should make quite a fuss,

> because i'm so worried they'll think i'm just

> drug-seeking. anyway, what do any of you think about my on-call experience??

>

hi from lynn8953-i think you have gone through one of many frustrating doc

problems

that we all have to go through--i should imaine if you are pregnant you shuld've

called

your obgyn re;pain meds-to be safe..as far as telling you to go to the er-thats

usually

what they tell you cause they dont know you and dont want to order anything....i

am a

nurse myself and still get treated like an idiot--be carefull about ''what you

learn from

friends " " that also can be very dangerous--i have talked to some online who know

all the

medical terminology but have no idea whats going on inside their bodies or the

disease

process...be careful..you must be considered a high risk pregancy cause i hear

words like

'prednisone' 'darvocet' ect...in your letter-i cant believe you dont have and

oby/gyn that

you can reach anytime.....and if you are looking for compassion and caring and

support

from an on call doc you are wasting your time....you will be luckey if you can

find that in

your rheumy or pcp...and just because a doctor is''nice'' doesnt mean they are

good--so of

the most miserable doc there are -are the best in knowledge...good

luck....lynn8953

[Guest guest]

Excuse me for butting in but I agree with you about ER. My late husband had

RA and in all the

years I was in nursing I never saw a person suffer as much as he did. One

weekend he was

in excruciating pain and I called ER. The male nurse I spoke to said they

didn't take RA patience.

I was never so angry. My husband was in pain all weekend. He died in 1994

from complications

from RA.

Joyce from Texas

[ ] Re: LONG - blown-off by doc

our ER just pages our normal doc anyway- and our ER tells us straight out

they only take care of life threatening emergencies, and they have us sign a

paper absolving them from any liability concerning dx, mostreatments etc

based on idea they only treat a life threatening emergency anyway...

BUT when I cannot get a doc to answer and if I think we need help NOW..and

answering service won't page doc.then I do go to ER and tell ER hey my docs

answering service would not page our doc. I am only a lay person and I sure

do not know just what a life threatening emergency is but hey I am in

pain.....and I am in pain NOW. I am sorry my pain does not hold any regard

for my docs office hours or scheduling abilites.

Truth is, I am a nurse. But people have the right to have pain treated NOW>

(unless there is a reason they need the pain to reach a dx)

Bummer is I had a nasty fast flareup of fingers on Labor Day..it came so

hard and fast my rings got stuck on my fingers. I had to get them cut off.

I went to ER and said I know I have RA and I am having a flare, and I need

my rings cut off (my fingers were turning black already- within 2 hours and

I had tried every known way to get them off already) ER insisted I HAD to

see doc, I HAD to go thru all this red tape- had to have dx confirmed- oh

but then since they are an ER they cannot anymore confirm a chronic dx...I

was like hey look, I only need the rings cut off, I want no other treatment,

I need no other treatment...I just need your ring cutter tool....everywhere

else who might have a ring cutter tool is closed right now and the rings

need to come off NOW or I WILL be having a medical emergency.

I do NOT need labs and xrays etc. Grrr. Policy is policy....we have to

follow rules.

$1500 dollars in medical care later....and 6 HOURS later- my rings were a

huge sad mess.....(they did not know how to use the ring cutter, broke my

finger in the process and then mangled my rings so bad the jeweler could not

repair them)

I don't like our ER (have many other horror stories as well, and 3 friends

who sued our ER and won...)

BUT if my doc is unreachable- I will go to ER. People should not have to

just sit it out if they have severe pain. (unless the pain cannot be

managed)

[Guest guest]

joyce - I am so sorry for your loss. my husband was just telling me how

frustrating it is

for him to see me in pain and not be able to fix it.

wendy

My husband was in pain all weekend. He died in 1994

> from complications

> from RA.

>

> Joyce from Texas

[Guest guest]

,

I am not surprised with what you've been through, after working at an

afterhours answering service for years, and answering high-priority

medical lines. Many docs don't want to be bothered afterhours, and

leave strict instructions for answering service staff to tell patients to go

to the ER. Nothing more frustrating for people answering the phone at

an afterhours service to NOT be able to help people in need. If we

dared to page or call the on-call doc if there was an emergency and the

patient needed to speak with him/her, we usually got a nasty call from

the doc or the office manager the following work day.

I have gone to the ER here in Canada when the pain is out of control

and I can no longer handle it with the meds I have. Keep in mind, the

last time I went, I was wearing 2 of the 25mg fentonyl pain patches and

taking up to 2 Percocets on top of that. Still, the pain was out of

control. They did blood tests and my SED count was 54 (I think), and

the high end of " normal " for a woman was in the 20's. Once that

bloodwork came back, they couldn't give me a shot of Morphine fast

enough. They were asking me what I wanted for the pain as the blood

work backed up what I was saying. The doc and nurse even asked me

how I managed to cope with it when it was that bad.

I know what you mean about seeming like a person who is only seeking

out pain meds. Prior to being diagnosed with RA a year ago, I would

never even take so much as a Tylenol unless I absolutely needed it. I

was the person who refused pain meds through IV or shots, and would

take a Tylenol if I really had to have something.

RA has brought me some of the worst pain I have ever experienced. I

have had gallstones, natural childbirth that lasted 3 days of labour, and

a tonsillectomy when I was 33 years old. All of that combined wouldn't

even come close to an RA flare.

I also have a wonderful Rheumy who is kind, compassionate and

understanding. When I called her office at the end of November to let

them know that I needed an appointment ASAP, as I had stopped all

RA treatment a month earlier because of side effects - (which turned

out to be MS symptoms undiagnosed), I was told the earliest I could get

in was the end of January. Can you believe a 2 month wait with no RA

meds??? I go in to see her in 4 weeks, and I will vent then.

Until the end of the month comes, I will see my GP every 2 weeks, and

he's been wonderful about helping me out with pain meds, prednisone,

whatever I need to get through this. He has been available 24/7, and

without him, I don't know what I would do. Sometimes, having a great

GP makes up for it all.

Hang in there girl, and hopefully they will have some answers for you

when you go on the 12th.

[Guest guest]

, I not only feel for you but I feel for your husband. I don't believe

my son realized the pain I am in until he got osteoarthritis. I rarely call

him to help me because of my RA but when I do he comes as soon as he

can. I am so glad your husband understands............Joyce

[ ] Re: LONG - blown-off by doc

joyce - I am so sorry for your loss. my husband was just telling me how

frustrating it is

for him to see me in pain and not be able to fix it.

wendy

My husband was in pain all weekend. He died in 1994

> from complications

> from RA.

>

> Joyce from Texas

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/1/2006 10:23:28 AM Central Standard Time,

wendyhollander@... writes:

what do any of you think about my on-call experience??

I think that on call doc is a jerk... good for you for not giving up. hugs