Re: Question that will cause sparks but must ask

[Guest guest]

Sue and Vonnie,

STOP IT. I am diabetic and have several family members who are. Sue, I don't know if your grandmother is still alive, or how long she's been gone if she is, but a lot has changed in the way diabetics can eat and take care of themselves over the years. Diabetics can eat what they want within reason but not all the sugar they want. I can't do that. For both of you: Hypo is low, hyper is high. Only someone who is HIGH PRETTY MUCH ALL THE TIME is diagnosed diabetic. The lows are NOT necessarily caused by diabetes. I can go high or low myself. I know people who go low who are NOT diabetics. Treating a low involves getting the blood sugar back up, which usually means getting something WITH GLUCOSE OR SUGAR IN IT into the person. For a true diabetic it is vital that the blood sugars be properly controlled, which means eating a decent diet. I can give more information if it's wanted or give the addys of several great

websites that will teach about diabetes.

Sue, Your language and calling names like that is extremely rude and unkind ok. There is absolutely no need for this carrying on. Both of you are right to a point. You just need to make sure ALL facts are straight and right and then present them in a much nicer way than this. There is no excuse for the cyber rage here.

Thank you and take care,

Sue wrote:

Okay, whatever moron. Web MD is wrong, everyone is wrong but YOU! Whatever, little miss EXPERT. Did you even read what I posted from WebMD? Obviously not. YOU ARE AN IDIOT!! I pity anyone who believes you when you say diabetics can eat all the sugar they want, because it's DEAD WRONG! I pray that you will GROW THE HELL UP. YOU ARE WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!! You think because you teach CPR you are a medical doctor or something? Get your head out of your FAT ASS and read what I posted. Type I and Type II diabetes are NOT Hypo and Hyperglycemia!! YOU ARE WRONG!!

Since this has gone WAY off topic I am going to ignore you from now on as it's obvious you are so blinded by your "expertise" that you can't and won't admit that you are WRONG and totally MISUNDERSTANDING what diabetes, hypoglycemia and hyperglycemia are. I know exactly how to treat someone who's blood sugar is too low...I've had hypoglycemia and I've helped others as well. You give them orange juice or some other kind of quick acting sugar. That does NOT mean diabetics can or should eat all the sugary sweets they want! So you can just SHOVE your self rightious "expertise" right up your fat ass. READ WHAT WEB MD SAID, MORON!!

Re: Re: Question that will cause sparks but must ask

Where are you getting your information from???

For one thing - some diabetics NEED sugar in their diet - it's called Hypo-glycemia.

With this kind of diabetes - the blood sugar levels drop considerably low and the insulin levels are incredibly high. What causes this is either the diabetic has taken too much insulin; they haven't eaten enough during the day; they have incorporated exercising in their day and have burned off more sugar than they have accounted for in their dietary plan.

The first aid for any diabetic emergency is: If the casualty is conscious enough - give them something to eat or drinnk with SUGAR in it. The reason being - if the person is hypoglycemic then the sugar will help them. If the person is hyperglycemic (meaning sugar levels are too high and the insulin levels are too low) no long term harm will be done. Generally speaking a first aider will not know what type of diabetic emergency they are dealing with, so the first aid protocol will be the same.

In other words - before you choose to compare diabetes and asthma - KNOW YOUR FACTS.

Yes smoking is not good for someone who is asthmatic, but then again it's not good for anyone regardless of whether or not they have a lung disease.

As for your choice of words - certainly you can tone it down and be nice. This group is here to offer support - not to criticize and call people ugly names.

Sue wrote:

Your friend is an ignorant moron and I am sure her doctor would agree. Insisting on smoking when you have asthma is no different than insisting on eating sugary sweets knowing you have diabetes or salty snacks knowing you have high blood pressure. It's irresponsible and self destructive.

Anyone who values a vile, filthy, disgusting habit like smoking over their own health needs psychiatric help.

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[Guest guest]

Leona,

I smoked for 26 years, 13 of it with asthma. I am a reformed smoker, having quit 6 years ago. I do understand where you're coming from. You may email me privately if you want so we can avoid any further problems in the group.

yvonne wrote:

HI Leona,

I don't smoke but I have a husband who does smoke. I don't like it and wish he would quit smoking. He tries to be careful around me and he knows it's not good for me at all.

Quiting is very difficult. He has tried and you know as much as someone says they want to quit - it's a lot harder than said.

For someone who does smoke and wants to quit, I just keep encouraging him on the benefits to not smoking. We take it one step at a time.

vonnie

Leona wrote:

How many of you that have asthma, smoke? I do. Not asking for sympathy just trying to see if anyone else smokes and has asthma so I can ask some wierd questions.Leona

[Guest guest]

Sue,

Why do you have to be this way?

Sue wrote:

You have to be a total idiot and completely ignorant if you smoke knowingyou have asthma.Sue Question that will cause sparks but must ask> How many of you that have asthma, smoke? I do. Not asking for sympathy> just trying to see if anyone else smokes and has asthma so I can ask> some wierd questions.>> Leona>God bless you!

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Leona,

I have never smoked but I can understand your problem, Its hard to quit smoking. I have been around several people who have quit and it was a struggle. I hope that you do choose to quit. I don't know about any other members of the group, but I will support you if you do try to quit, and won't criticize if you choose to continue. Its your life, live it the way you see best.

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I don't like smoking but I don't have any problem with someone's choice. My daughter smokes and the only thing I require of her is that she does it outside. I do wish she'd quit, but I respect her right to do it and the choice she makes. I'll support whatever decision you make too, Leona. I'll help all I can with the quitting if you choose. I quit 6 years ago so I know the struggle well. It is very hard to quit but it can be done.

Take care,

Chalyn wrote:

Leona,

I have never smoked but I can understand your problem, Its hard to quit smoking. I have been around several people who have quit and it was a struggle. I hope that you do choose to quit. I don't know about any other members of the group, but I will support you if you do try to quit, and won't criticize if you choose to continue. Its your life, live it the way you see best.

Chalyn

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Smoking is a bad addiction, my husband and myself are wanting to quit.

Just seems like, you run out of smokes get more, gripe and moan over

the price and then argue the matter of quitting as your in search of

your lighter. It's funny to read it after wrote it but it's true.

Yes, I wanna quit. So far cutting down is getting better. Went from

two packs a day to half a pack. I do want to thank all of you with the

positive feedback.

In regards to the diabetic parts that got added in. I do not know

anything about diabetes. I had gestational diabetes in my last

pregnancy and had to take my blood sugar levels about 3 times a day.

It's been almost 2 yrs so I'm not to up on the diabetes in general.

Sorry I cant be of more help.

Leona

[Guest guest]

Smoking is hard on diabetics too. I have learned that much from talking to many diabetics and what I've learned in a couple of diabetes groups. I'm glad the gestational settled down after the baby was born.

Getting down to half a pack is very good. It's hard to quit, I know, but you can do it. Take it one day at a time.

Leona wrote:

Smoking is a bad addiction, my husband and myself are wanting to quit. Just seems like, you run out of smokes get more, gripe and moan over the price and then argue the matter of quitting as your in search of your lighter. It's funny to read it after wrote it but it's true. Yes, I wanna quit. So far cutting down is getting better. Went from two packs a day to half a pack. I do want to thank all of you with the positive feedback.In regards to the diabetic parts that got added in. I do not know anything about diabetes. I had gestational diabetes in my last pregnancy and had to take my blood sugar levels about 3 times a day. It's been almost 2 yrs so I'm not to up on the diabetes in general. Sorry I cant be of more help.LeonaGod bless you!

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