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Hello - I discovered the site today. My brother and I are nearly at

the end of our rope with a possibly BPD mother. I don't even know

the terminology - what is a nada? I have gathered that it is the BPD

family member, but am curious what it stands for.

I ordered the Stop Walking on Eggshells book today as well as the

Mothers with BPD one. From a cursory look at the DMSR criteria I'm

about 99% sure she has it. Anyway, a brief primer would be

appreciated. I'll keep poring over the previous posts; they're quite

enlightening.

Thanks,

Seymour

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Seymour,

Welcome to our little haven! I think Edith (list moderator and recently

crowned guardian angel---good idea Suzy and Co.) will answer your questions

about terminology etc. So many of us end up here after a web-search for

answers to explain away our nada's (what we call our moms...for " not a "

mother) behavior. Good luck to you and your brother. I am glad you found

us.

Hugs,

Debbie

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Welcome to the group Seymour:-)

I am new here to, but just going through my first day of reading the emails,

I saw the light at the end of tunnel and for the first time it was not a

train heading for me:-)

In this short time, I feel as if a 2ton black cloud has been lifted off my

shoulders, and the black hole in my soul with an icy wind blowing through it,

seems to be closing up and warming up a bit.

It was something I felt I would have to bear the rest of my life, no matter

how much work I have done and will be doing on my healing. It was a

discouraging and overwhelming task in front of me.

Now, just being in the group and reading every single email, its like I am

floating.

Susie & Co.

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Hi Again Seymour,

Its funny I have known a few seymours in my life, and the name is not unique

to me, however, after reading your email, the vision of 'see more' is before

me.

I guess, from my personal experience with the group, is that I see you seeing

more:-)

Susie & Co.

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In a message dated 5/31/02 2:01:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

camckay@... writes:

> . I couldn't stomach mother any more, and I was very ready to

> face whatever " worse after her death " was, because I'd had it. Why

> couldn't anyone understand that?

>

Hey Carol,

I can understand it!! My therapist suggested to me the other day that I may

never have any relief from Megatron and my father until one of them is dead!

I've had it and somedays I couldn't care less which one of them goes...as

long as this infernal, destructive tug-of-war ends! I am begining to think

my dad is just as bad as Megatron, since he keeps " hoping " things will

magically get better. That is the source of my stress these days. I do not

speak to Megatron and am on the verge of not speaking with my father if he

keeps breaking the rules...ie.. " Couldn't you just say good night or have a

nice day? " NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I can't and I won't and I will never want to.

ickickick!

Debbie

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I felt the exact same way, Susie. Things with mother kept getting worse

and worse over the years. I was sinking in the quicksand of despair.

The only way out was her death. And yes, I wanted her to die. And then

I'd feel even guiltier for thinking such a horrid thing, especially when

everyone kept telling me to keep the channels of communication open at

all costs, that I'd live to regret it if I didn't blah blah blah. How

could things possibly be worse than mother being alive? Sure, maybe I'd

feel guilty about some stuff after she died, but at least I wouldn't

have a brick hanging over my head all the time, never knowing when it

would drop. I couldn't stomach mother any more, and I was very ready to

face whatever " worse after her death " was, because I'd had it. Why

couldn't anyone understand that?

Smiles!

Carol

Susieqoooo@... wrote:

> It was something I felt I would have to bear the rest of my life, no matter

> how much work I have done and will be doing on my healing. It was a

> discouraging and overwhelming task in front of me.

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People who have never lived with a BP don't understand. Like you I've

wished so many times that my nada would die. When she would get upset and

threaten suicide, I'd wish she'd go ahead and do it. My nada brings so much

chaos to my life that it would feel so peaceful not waiting for the next

shoe to drop

Jules

I felt the exact same way, Susie. Things with mother kept getting worse

and worse over the years. I was sinking in the quicksand of despair.

The only way out was her death. And yes, I wanted her to die. And then

I'd feel even guiltier for thinking such a horrid thing, especially when

everyone kept telling me to keep the channels of communication open at

all costs, that I'd live to regret it if I didn't blah blah blah. How

could things possibly be worse than mother being alive? Sure, maybe I'd

feel guilty about some stuff after she died, but at least I wouldn't

have a brick hanging over my head all the time, never knowing when it

would drop. I couldn't stomach mother any more, and I was very ready to

face whatever " worse after her death " was, because I'd had it. Why

couldn't anyone understand that?

Smiles!

Carol

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My therapist told me that it is Okay not to like your mother. Does your

father and nada live close to you? In UBM it has a section about the

different type of men who marry a BP. From what I've read so many of them

hide their heads in the sand. And by asking you to be nice to your nada, it

gets him off the hook. But it is so unfair to you. When my mom and dad got

divorced us kids were left with my mom. I'm still very angry at my dad for

leaving us with this woman. I asked my therapist one day how he could say

he loved us, but not protect us. I still carry a lot of anger against him

for that.

Jules

I can understand it!! My therapist suggested to me the other day that I may

never have any relief from Megatron and my father until one of them is dead!

I've had it and somedays I couldn't care less which one of them goes...as

long as this infernal, destructive tug-of-war ends! I am begining to think

my dad is just as bad as Megatron, since he keeps " hoping " things will

magically get better. That is the source of my stress these days. I do not

speak to Megatron and am on the verge of not speaking with my father if he

keeps breaking the rules...ie.. " Couldn't you just say good night or have a

nice day? " NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I can't and I won't and I will never want

to.

ickickick!

Debbie

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