Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 Nada gave birth to me when she was 24. So for my 24th birthday, I got to hear all about how excited she was that I was now at the exact same age as she was when she had the wonderful feeling of me bursting forth out of her body. She talked about it almost sexually. Gross! It grosses me out that I actually passed through her vagina. Yuck!!! Hope --- nevele wrote: > holly, i am trying to go home from work, but i can't tear > myself away > from you!!! > ha ha > > okay, here is my nada's birth story about ME: > > " i was in labor 24 hours. you were born in the middle > of the > night. the old mississippi hospital you were born in was > outdated > and had crazy medical philosophies. did you know that > they strapped > me to a bed that had oars on it, like the oars on a boat, > and told me > to prop up my legs and 'ROW'! i rowed that boat for > HOURS until you > were finally born. it was absolutely HORRIBLE!!!! and > your dad > wasn't even there with me. he was in on a business trip- > probably in > some hotel with another woman. " > > yes, it's a good thing your nada was doped up. you > probably don't > want to know the extent of her suffering!!!LOL > > also, has anyone out there EVER heard of the " oars on a > boat " > thing???? i have always believed this was probably true. > but i have > never heard anything like it before. can someone > validate this > birthing theory for me??? > > in contrast- my own daughter LOVES it when i tell her > about the day > she was born. it's one of her favorite bedtime stories. > i tell her > all about who was there...and how tiny she was- and how > the first > thing i noticed was her beautiful, long black eyelashes > all clumped > together and spilling out of her eyes. then, she will > always > ask, " did it hurt, mommy? " and i tell her " just a > little, but it was > the best hurt of my life. " and then i tell her- quite > truthfully- > that the day of her birth was the happiest day of my > life. > > as it should be. > > > nev > > > > > > > > > > > CREMATION??!!! ooooohhhhh, holly, there will be > > > none of that with a > > > borderline around!!!!! my nada FREAKED OUT when i > > > mentioned that i > > > might want something like that too. > > > > Probably because they wouldn't be able to take photos > > of us in the coffin However, my bpd ex did want to > > be cremated. He said he wanted to take up less space > > and it was better for the environment. He probably > > liked the idea because he didn't consider it > > 'mainstream'. He had to like everything that was > > 'unique' because he thought he was so much better than > > anyone else. > > > > > that idea was > > > as radical, weird > > > and DISGUSTING to her as when i breast fed my > > > daughter!!! (she > > > treated me like i was an animal raised in a barn > > > when i did that!) > > > > Oh Good grief. My mom didn't breast feed me so she > > probably felt the same way. At my mom's birthday, her > > mom always used to tell the 'birth story' which is > > basically " I suffered *this* much. " My mom asks if I > > want to hear the birth story on my birthday, but she > > can't remember anything. She had drugs and wasn't > > even conscious for it, so she can't pry a lot of guilt > > out of me with that one. > > > > They are so nuts. > > Holly > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 welcome back, hope! i wanted to comment on several of your responses...but, at the moment, i am having a pregnant moment...and can't remember what to say!!! LOL- But, i ditto the " gross out " statement you made below about being born from these women. nev > > > > CREMATION??!!! ooooohhhhh, holly, there will be > > > > none of that with a > > > > borderline around!!!!! my nada FREAKED OUT when i > > > > mentioned that i > > > > might want something like that too. > > > > > > Probably because they wouldn't be able to take photos > > > of us in the coffin However, my bpd ex did want to > > > be cremated. He said he wanted to take up less space > > > and it was better for the environment. He probably > > > liked the idea because he didn't consider it > > > 'mainstream'. He had to like everything that was > > > 'unique' because he thought he was so much better than > > > anyone else. > > > > > > > that idea was > > > > as radical, weird > > > > and DISGUSTING to her as when i breast fed my > > > > daughter!!! (she > > > > treated me like i was an animal raised in a barn > > > > when i did that!) > > > > > > Oh Good grief. My mom didn't breast feed me so she > > > probably felt the same way. At my mom's birthday, her > > > mom always used to tell the 'birth story' which is > > > basically " I suffered *this* much. " My mom asks if I > > > want to hear the birth story on my birthday, but she > > > can't remember anything. She had drugs and wasn't > > > even conscious for it, so she can't pry a lot of guilt > > > out of me with that one. > > > > > > They are so nuts. > > > Holly > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 Hi Hope, I hope I don't offend you,but when I read this I couldn't help but laugh. That last line....... :0) -- Re: birth stories... Nada gave birth to me when she was 24. So for my 24th birthday, I got to hear all about how excited she was that I was now at the exact same age as she was when she had the wonderful feeling of me bursting forth out of her body. She talked about it almost sexually. Gross! It grosses me out that I actually passed through her vagina. Yuck!!! Hope --- nevele wrote: > holly, i am trying to go home from work, but i can't tear > myself away > from you!!! > ha ha > > okay, here is my nada's birth story about ME: > > " i was in labor 24 hours. you were born in the middle > of the > night. the old mississippi hospital you were born in was > outdated > and had crazy medical philosophies. did you know that > they strapped > me to a bed that had oars on it, like the oars on a boat, > and told me > to prop up my legs and 'ROW'! i rowed that boat for > HOURS until you > were finally born. it was absolutely HORRIBLE!!!! and > your dad > wasn't even there with me. he was in on a business trip- > probably in > some hotel with another woman. " > > yes, it's a good thing your nada was doped up. you > probably don't > want to know the extent of her suffering!!!LOL > > also, has anyone out there EVER heard of the " oars on a > boat " > thing???? i have always believed this was probably true. > but i have > never heard anything like it before. can someone > validate this > birthing theory for me??? > > in contrast- my own daughter LOVES it when i tell her > about the day > she was born. it's one of her favorite bedtime stories. > i tell her > all about who was there...and how tiny she was- and how > the first > thing i noticed was her beautiful, long black eyelashes > all clumped > together and spilling out of her eyes. then, she will > always > ask, " did it hurt, mommy? " and i tell her " just a > little, but it was > the best hurt of my life. " and then i tell her- quite > truthfully- > that the day of her birth was the happiest day of my > life. > > as it should be. > > > nev > > > > > > > > > > > CREMATION??!!! ooooohhhhh, holly, there will be > > > none of that with a > > > borderline around!!!!! my nada FREAKED OUT when i > > > mentioned that i > > > might want something like that too. > > > > Probably because they wouldn't be able to take photos > > of us in the coffin However, my bpd ex did want to > > be cremated. He said he wanted to take up less space > > and it was better for the environment. He probably > > liked the idea because he didn't consider it > > 'mainstream'. He had to like everything that was > > 'unique' because he thought he was so much better than > > anyone else. > > > > > that idea was > > > as radical, weird > > > and DISGUSTING to her as when i breast fed my > > > daughter!!! (she > > > treated me like i was an animal raised in a barn > > > when i did that!) > > > > Oh Good grief. My mom didn't breast feed me so she > > probably felt the same way. At my mom's birthday, her > > mom always used to tell the 'birth story' which is > > basically " I suffered *this* much. " My mom asks if I > > want to hear the birth story on my birthday, but she > > can't remember anything. She had drugs and wasn't > > even conscious for it, so she can't pry a lot of guilt > > out of me with that one. > > > > They are so nuts. > > Holly > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 Hi Group and Hope and Nev!! Big huge Ditto on being born from my mother.... Does anyone still today not like what their Nada's liked? For example... I will not decorate my new apartment country style because that is what she liked and thank God I'm more modern and contemporary... I used to try so hard not to be anything like my Nada. One day after church when I was only like 9 I asked my Nada why she even bothered to go as she didn't practice anything the Priest talks about... boy did I get a beating for that one...lol... Love, Kim P. --- nevele wrote: > welcome back, hope! i wanted to comment on several > of your > responses...but, at the moment, i am having a > pregnant moment...and > can't remember what to say!!! LOL- > > But, i ditto the " gross out " statement you made > below about being > born from these women. > > > nev > > > > > > > CREMATION??!!! ooooohhhhh, holly, there > will be > > > > > none of that with a > > > > > borderline around!!!!! my nada FREAKED OUT > when i > > > > > mentioned that i > > > > > might want something like that too. > > > > > > > > Probably because they wouldn't be able to take > photos > > > > of us in the coffin However, my bpd ex did > want to > > > > be cremated. He said he wanted to take up > less space > > > > and it was better for the environment. He > probably > > > > liked the idea because he didn't consider it > > > > 'mainstream'. He had to like everything that > was > > > > 'unique' because he thought he was so much > better than > > > > anyone else. > > > > > > > > > that idea was > > > > > as radical, weird > > > > > and DISGUSTING to her as when i breast fed > my > > > > > daughter!!! (she > > > > > treated me like i was an animal raised in a > barn > > > > > when i did that!) > > > > > > > > Oh Good grief. My mom didn't breast feed me > so she > > > > probably felt the same way. At my mom's > birthday, her > > > > mom always used to tell the 'birth story' > which is > > > > basically " I suffered *this* much. " My mom > asks if I > > > > want to hear the birth story on my birthday, > but she > > > > can't remember anything. She had drugs and > wasn't > > > > even conscious for it, so she can't pry a lot > of guilt > > > > out of me with that one. > > > > > > > > They are so nuts. > > > > Holly > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 oh yessss, kim! i hate anything about myself that is like her. i have noticed that i am looking more like her as i age than i did when i was younger. i have always been a " daddy's girl " with my looks...but sometimes now, when i look in the mirror- or catch my face in a certain expression, i just cringe. also, how i relate to daughter...the GOOD ways i mean, are a lot like her...i find myself singing the same little stupid songs- or making the same " playful noises " . ick. and the way i move my hands...i have extremely long fingers like her- so our gestures are alike. i despise that. AND MY VOICE, lord help me, i am starting to SOUND like her now that my voice is changing with age!!!!!!! i always tell myself that i shouldn't beat myself up over these genetic factors that i can't control...but i still hate it. nev > > > > > > CREMATION??!!! ooooohhhhh, holly, there > > will be > > > > > > none of that with a > > > > > > borderline around!!!!! my nada FREAKED OUT > > when i > > > > > > mentioned that i > > > > > > might want something like that too. > > > > > > > > > > Probably because they wouldn't be able to take > > photos > > > > > of us in the coffin However, my bpd ex did > > want to > > > > > be cremated. He said he wanted to take up > > less space > > > > > and it was better for the environment. He > > probably > > > > > liked the idea because he didn't consider it > > > > > 'mainstream'. He had to like everything that > > was > > > > > 'unique' because he thought he was so much > > better than > > > > > anyone else. > > > > > > > > > > > that idea was > > > > > > as radical, weird > > > > > > and DISGUSTING to her as when i breast fed > > my > > > > > > daughter!!! (she > > > > > > treated me like i was an animal raised in a > > barn > > > > > > when i did that!) > > > > > > > > > > Oh Good grief. My mom didn't breast feed me > > so she > > > > > probably felt the same way. At my mom's > > birthday, her > > > > > mom always used to tell the 'birth story' > > which is > > > > > basically " I suffered *this* much. " My mom > > asks if I > > > > > want to hear the birth story on my birthday, > > but she > > > > > can't remember anything. She had drugs and > > wasn't > > > > > even conscious for it, so she can't pry a lot > > of guilt > > > > > out of me with that one. > > > > > > > > > > They are so nuts. > > > > > Holly > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 Hi everyone! Thanks so much for your posts. You guys make me feel so lucky. My mom left two years ago, and you guys are so right that I do have my whole life ahead of me. It's a good thing that I figured this stuff out early in my life so that I can do productive stuff with it. Oh, and I do live with my dad, but I'm in college now, so when I'm home, I live with him. Thanks for your posts. What you just said is so funny. My mom acts like she is the most pious woman on the face of the earth. She puts all this angel stuff around her desk, has prayers stuck to cabinets in her condo, is saying that we have to believe in the Lord, and goes to church every Sunday. Except that's only now. From the time I was about eight, she stopped going to church altogether, and she constantly complained that my dad was too involved in church because he had some interest outside of her. Then when he kicked her out two years ago, she immediately, the very next Sunday, started going to church again. I thought it was the most hilarious thing I have ever seen. As for not doing things just because my mother does them, well, I find myself doing this to a great extent, but more rationally than just not doing them because she does them. I try not to do the things that are so bad and destructive that she does. Like she eats constantly, has diet pepsi morning, noon, and night, buys things on impulse, etc. But then there are things I have found myself not doing all my life, just because she did them, or wanted me to do them. My mom loves frilly things, and she always wanted to dress me up like a baby doll. I, on the other hand, hated being dressed up like a little baby doll, and we would get in huge fights whenever we went out shopping. My brother's much more guilty of this than I am. He's listened to certain bands, worn certain clothes, didn't try at school, hung out with certain people, etc. just because my mom was always yelling at him not to do those things. Now, he's finally finding out what he actually wants and taking care of himself, and I'm so proud of him. He's lost tons of weight (he used to be so overweight), and he's trying in school. Quoting Pollock : > Hi Group and Hope and Nev!! > > Big huge Ditto on being born from my mother.... > > Does anyone still today not like what their Nada's > liked? For example... I will not decorate my new > apartment country style because that is what she liked > and thank God I'm more modern and contemporary... > > I used to try so hard not to be anything like my Nada. > One day after church when I was only like 9 I asked > my Nada why she even bothered to go as she didn't > practice anything the Priest talks about... boy did I > get a beating for that one...lol... > > Love, > Kim P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 ha ha...you said your nada was " pious " ...i believe the word i have used for mine is " pristine " . there's nothin worse than a nada gone religious. nev > Hi everyone! > > Thanks so much for your posts. You guys make me feel so lucky. My mom left two > years ago, and you guys are so right that I do have my whole life ahead of me. > It's a good thing that I figured this stuff out early in my life so that I can > do productive stuff with it. Oh, and I do live with my dad, but I'm in college > now, so when I'm home, I live with him. Thanks for your posts. > > What you just said is so funny. My mom acts like she is the most pious woman on > the face of the earth. She puts all this angel stuff around her desk, has > prayers stuck to cabinets in her condo, is saying that we have to believe in > the Lord, and goes to church every Sunday. Except that's only now. From the > time I was about eight, she stopped going to church altogether, and she > constantly complained that my dad was too involved in church because he had > some interest outside of her. Then when he kicked her out two years ago, she > immediately, the very next Sunday, started going to church again. I thought it > was the most hilarious thing I have ever seen. > > As for not doing things just because my mother does them, well, I find myself > doing this to a great extent, but more rationally than just not doing them > because she does them. I try not to do the things that are so bad and > destructive that she does. Like she eats constantly, has diet pepsi morning, > noon, and night, buys things on impulse, etc. But then there are things I have > found myself not doing all my life, just because she did them, or wanted me to > do them. My mom loves frilly things, and she always wanted to dress me up like > a baby doll. I, on the other hand, hated being dressed up like a little baby > doll, and we would get in huge fights whenever we went out shopping. > > My brother's much more guilty of this than I am. He's listened to certain > bands, worn certain clothes, didn't try at school, hung out with certain > people, etc. just because my mom was always yelling at him not to do those > things. Now, he's finally finding out what he actually wants and taking care of > himself, and I'm so proud of him. He's lost tons of weight (he used to be so > overweight), and he's trying in school. > > > Quoting Pollock <kkapollock@y...>: > > > Hi Group and Hope and Nev!! > > > > Big huge Ditto on being born from my mother.... > > > > Does anyone still today not like what their Nada's > > liked? For example... I will not decorate my new > > apartment country style because that is what she liked > > and thank God I'm more modern and contemporary... > > > > I used to try so hard not to be anything like my Nada. > > One day after church when I was only like 9 I asked > > my Nada why she even bothered to go as she didn't > > practice anything the Priest talks about... boy did I > > get a beating for that one...lol... > > > > Love, > > Kim P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2002 Report Share Posted April 23, 2002 Hi , I'm not offended :-) I'm so glad you can laugh at this stuff, I look forward to eventually being able to laugh about it too, but right now I just feel SLIMED. No joke. Hope --- wendy keetch wrote: > Hi Hope, > I hope I don't offend you,but when I read this I couldn't > help but laugh. > That last line....... > :0) > > > -- Re: birth stories... > > Nada gave birth to me when she was 24. So for my 24th > birthday, I got to hear all about how excited she was > that > I was now at the exact same age as she was when she had > the > wonderful feeling of me bursting forth out of her body. > She > talked about it almost sexually. Gross! It grosses me out > that I actually passed through her vagina. Yuck!!! > > Hope > > --- nevele wrote: > > holly, i am trying to go home from work, but i can't > tear > > myself away > > from you!!! > > ha ha > > > > okay, here is my nada's birth story about ME: > > > > " i was in labor 24 hours. you were born in the middle > > of the > > night. the old mississippi hospital you were born in > was > > outdated > > and had crazy medical philosophies. did you know that > > they strapped > > me to a bed that had oars on it, like the oars on a > boat, > > and told me > > to prop up my legs and 'ROW'! i rowed that boat for > > HOURS until you > > were finally born. it was absolutely HORRIBLE!!!! and > > your dad > > wasn't even there with me. he was in on a business > trip- > > probably in > > some hotel with another woman. " > > > > yes, it's a good thing your nada was doped up. you > > probably don't > > want to know the extent of her suffering!!!LOL > > > > also, has anyone out there EVER heard of the " oars on a > > boat " > > thing???? i have always believed this was probably > true. > > but i have > > never heard anything like it before. can someone > > validate this > > birthing theory for me??? > > > > in contrast- my own daughter LOVES it when i tell her > > about the day > > she was born. it's one of her favorite bedtime stories. > > > i tell her > > all about who was there...and how tiny she was- and how > > the first > > thing i noticed was her beautiful, long black eyelashes > > all clumped > > together and spilling out of her eyes. then, she will > > always > > ask, " did it hurt, mommy? " and i tell her " just a > > little, but it was > > the best hurt of my life. " and then i tell her- quite > > truthfully- > > that the day of her birth was the happiest day of my > > life. > > > > as it should be. > > > > > > nev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CREMATION??!!! ooooohhhhh, holly, there will be > > > > none of that with a > > > > borderline around!!!!! my nada FREAKED OUT when i > > > > mentioned that i > > > > might want something like that too. > > > > > > Probably because they wouldn't be able to take photos > > > of us in the coffin However, my bpd ex did want to > > > be cremated. He said he wanted to take up less space > > > and it was better for the environment. He probably > > > liked the idea because he didn't consider it > > > 'mainstream'. He had to like everything that was > > > 'unique' because he thought he was so much better > than > > > anyone else. > > > > > > > that idea was > > > > as radical, weird > > > > and DISGUSTING to her as when i breast fed my > > > > daughter!!! (she > > > > treated me like i was an animal raised in a barn > > > > when i did that!) > > > > > > Oh Good grief. My mom didn't breast feed me so she > > > probably felt the same way. At my mom's birthday, her > > > mom always used to tell the 'birth story' which is > > > basically " I suffered *this* much. " My mom asks if I > > > want to hear the birth story on my birthday, but she > > > can't remember anything. She had drugs and wasn't > > > even conscious for it, so she can't pry a lot of > guilt > > > out of me with that one. > > > > > > They are so nuts. > > > Holly > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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