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HI all!! I have been on the armour 2 weeks now - still at 1 gr. Everytime I try to up int by 1/2 gr I feel hyper for a few days and it is awful. I am still tired and sleepy though on 1 gr per day.. Maybe I need just the t3 - not sure.. thoughts, suggestions? I have an appointment with Dr. Ozan on Monday.

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Steph,

Try going a 1/4 grain up and see if you have the hyper symptoms. You may be one of those who don't tolerate "big" jumps.

Have you done any Free T3 & Free T4 testing? Jan has to supplement with T4 to get her into the right T4 range. If she takes enough Armour to bring the T4 into range, it's too much T3. This works a lot of times for those who don't do a good job of converting T4 to T3. The Armour provides the right amt of T3 and the supplemental T4 brings that hormone up because your body doesn't do a good job of converting it to T3, thus you don't get overloaded with T3.

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HI all!! I have been on the armour 2 weeks now - still at 1 gr. Everytime I try to up int by 1/2 gr I feel hyper for a few days and it is awful. I am still tired and sleepy though on 1 gr per day.. Maybe I need just the t3 - not sure.. thoughts, suggestions? I have an appointment with Dr. Ozan on Monday.

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Steph:

I am one who has to increase very slowly. I can only increase 1/4

grain at a time and stay there for weeks before I introduce another

1/4 grain.

> HI all!! I have been on the armour 2 weeks now - still at 1 gr.

Everytime I

> try to up int by 1/2 gr I feel hyper for a few days and it is

awful. I am

> still tired and sleepy though on 1 gr per day.. Maybe I need just

the t3 - not

> sure.. thoughts, suggestions? I have an appointment with Dr. Ozan

on Monday.

>

> steph

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Hey Steph--

I've had my spouse cut my pills into four quarters with the pill

cutter. I am taking 45 mg a day, plus 1/4 of a 15 mg pill.

Do you think you could cut the pill into even quarters or eighths?

If it were me, I might even consider holding off of the increase

until you see Ozan on Monday. Especially since it is late in the

week, you might not want to try anything new with the weekend upon us,

as it is harder to get in touch with your regular doctor.

Best wishes--

Courtenay.

HI all!! I have been on the armour 2 weeks now - still

at 1 gr. Everytime I try to up int by 1/2 gr I feel hyper for a

few days and it is awful. I am still tired and sleepy though on

1 gr per day.. Maybe I need just the t3 - not sure.. thoughts,

suggestions? I have an appointment with Dr. Ozan on

Monday.

steph

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I am going to Dr. Ozan Monday. Does anyone know if he knows about saliva testing and about testing the adrenals, female hormones, etc?

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He does test female hormones and prescribes bio-identical hormones. I don't know about adrenals (but would like to).

I am going to Dr. Ozan Monday. Does anyone know if he knows about saliva testing and about testing the adrenals, female hormones, etc?

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I brought up adrenals last visit to Ozan, so he added that to my

bloodwork, but all he listed on there was a.m. cortisol & DHEA-s. I

honestly haven't done enough research in that area yet to question

him. Had just planned to have whatever he ordered done, then come here

and ask the " experts " when I get my labs back.

> >

> > I am going to Dr. Ozan Monday. Does anyone know if he knows about

saliva

> > testing and about testing the adrenals, female hormones, etc?

> > steph

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The first week I saw Dr. Ozan, when I called he answered the phone

and took time to speak with me, and during my visit he was alone with

his mother watching the front desk. I later found out Angie was on

vacation that week. It has been harder to get thru when she's there,

and I had to call a couple of times before my second visit to make

sure my labs were even there. She seemed very frustrated and

disorganized when I was there the second time. I got the feeling the

practice may be growing beyond a " one person " office and she's a bit

overwhelmed.

I was also wondering if he would be willing to communicate thru

email. Right now that works much better for me, because my thoughts

are so disconnected these days, and I can take the time to organize

them in writing.

> >

> > Rant on, darlin'!!

> >

> > I guess I'm lucky that I haven't had to have any referrals from

him yet.

> > Do you think he's the problem or is it his one-person office

staff? I only

> > have to get on someone when I have to deal with Angie (or

whoever) and not

> > directly with him. I usually have to call several times to get

lab results

> > and usually it's because he hadn't even seen them yet. Once he

gets them

> > he's usually pretty prompt about calling.

> >

> > I'm getting ready to send him a fax about something I just read

to see if

> > I should switch my thyroid meds from am to pm. It'll be

interesting to see

> > if and when he gets it, and how long it takes him to respond.

> >

> > Do you always speak to his nurse on the phone or do you try to

go

> > directly to him? I've had the best luck when he actually answers

the phone

> > himself (strange office sometimes!)

> >

> >

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Janet, thanks for the suggestion. Maybe that would work better for

me, too.

I really don't want to give up on him. I'm trying to be very honest

with myself and remind myself I am very disconnected, frustrated,

stressed and emotional right now, so I may not be expressing myself

well in a face-to-face situation. It could be a matter of poor

communication on my part. I've also been treated like a nut-case by

so many docs for so many years, I think I'm probably on the defensive

the minute I walk in the door!

I have accepted that it may take a year for me to feel like a person

again, no matter what doctor I'm seeing, so 6 weeks into treatment is

probably far too soon to make judgements. I do need to give him time

to familiarize himself with my body and how I respond to medications,

etc. I just have to convince him that my ft's below or just at the

halfway mark aren't going to cut it!

Should I just suffer thru it for a few weeks, and then go back to him

and convince him it's still not good enough, or should I keep pushing

the issue now?

> > >

> > > Rant on, darlin'!!

> > >

> > > I guess I'm lucky that I haven't had to have any referrals

from

> him yet.

> > > Do you think he's the problem or is it his one-person office

> staff? I only

> > > have to get on someone when I have to deal with Angie (or

> whoever) and not

> > > directly with him. I usually have to call several times to get

> lab results

> > > and usually it's because he hadn't even seen them yet. Once he

> gets them

> > > he's usually pretty prompt about calling.

> > >

> > > I'm getting ready to send him a fax about something I just

read

> to see if

> > > I should switch my thyroid meds from am to pm. It'll be

> interesting to see

> > > if and when he gets it, and how long it takes him to respond.

> > >

> > > Do you always speak to his nurse on the phone or do you try to

> go

> > > directly to him? I've had the best luck when he actually

answers

> the phone

> > > himself (strange office sometimes!)

> > >

> > >

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