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Dear ine,

I'm sorry to hear that things haven't been going too well in being able

to volunteer or get out in the community much lately. I am hoping that things

will improve for you each day that goes by. You will be in my prayers and my

thoughts, and I'm hoping only good things will come your way!! Lots of Love, PJ

shreiman wrote:

Well, my update. Volunteering isn't going so well. I called

hospitals-they have sent me applications. I have to go through

orientation, have a complete medical and an interview. This would be

for one day a week. Schools-nothing available. I called some

synagogues and they want me to come to their services to get to know

me which is difficult. I have social phobia and don't feel like

sitting in a synagogue for 2 hours lost. It is hard for me to go to

those places alone. I end up feeling like a little girl. I have

called various places to take a crochet or knit class. Nothing going

now. I wonder if things are going to just stay as they are. I can't

give me away. I'm depressed. ine

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Dear ine,

I am so sorry that this happened to you! That was very unprofessional of

her!!! What about confidentiality?! I deeply believe that she stepped out of

the boundaries. I am very sorry that you had to go through this -- sure hope

things work out for you!

Love & Hugs, PJ

shreiman wrote:

Well, I just thought I'd say hi and thank all that have been

supportive of me. I am not talking to the man in my building and he

is not talking to me. I finally feel free and have my self respect.

I did have an incident last week that through me. I go to a support

group each week called Recovery. Each week we give an example and

everyone helps to deal with it. Well I become close to the leader

privately and we had a misunderstanding. Well, much to my shock she

used our misunderstanding as her example without using my name. I

was so imbarrassed. Angry. She kept pushing me to respond on the

example and I refused. She was totally out of line. that is just

something you don't do in a group. that was a confidential thing.

Well, I was so upset for the next few day that I called my psy and

got in to see him and he gave me some medication which is helping

calm me. I also called the head office of Recovery and told them. I

feel so betrayed by her. There isn't another group during the day

for me to go to so we will see what happens. I did go out this week

to s and bought some yarn so I could play with crocheting and

knitting. Always something. ine

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Well, I talked to the head of the organization and the head for michigan

and they are going to talk to her and they found a group on Tues during the

day that I can go to. I just need to make bus arrangements. ine

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From: PJ mollyann365@...

Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:15:25 -0800 (PST)

To: AffirmationstoDe-Stress

Subject: Re: ine

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     Dear ine,<BR>

<BR>

       I am so sorry that this happened to you!  That was very

unprofessional of her!!!  What about confidentiality?!  I deeply believe

that she stepped out of the boundaries. I am very sorry that you had to go

through this -- sure hope things work out for you!  <BR>

Love & Hugs, PJ<BR>

<BR>

shreiman wrote:<BR>

Well, I just thought I'd say hi and thank all that have been <BR>

supportive of me.  I am not talking to the man in my building and he <BR>

is not talking to me.  I finally feel free and have my self respect.  <BR>

I did have an incident last week that through me.  I go to a support <BR>

group each week called Recovery.  Each week we give an example and <BR>

everyone helps to deal with it.  Well I become close to the leader <BR>

privately and we had a misunderstanding.  Well, much to my shock she <BR>

used our misunderstanding as her example without using my name.  I <BR>

was so imbarrassed.  Angry.  She kept pushing me to respond on the <BR>

example and I refused.  She was totally out of line.  that is just <BR>

something you don't do in a group.  that was a confidential thing.  <BR>

Well, I was so upset for the next few day that I called my psy and <BR>

got in to see him and he gave me some medication which is helping <BR>

calm me.  I also called the head office of Recovery and told them.  I <BR>

feel so betrayed by her.  There isn't another group during the day <BR>

for me to go to so we will see what happens.  I did go out this week <BR>

to s and bought some yarn so I could play with crocheting and <BR>

knitting.  Always something. ine<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

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Oh ine....it grieves my heart to see you feeling so badly!

I wish I was there to give you a big hug! (((hugs)))

LeAnn

ine

I don't know what to do with myself. I'm somewhat decent as long as

I am not involved with people who have a normal life. Today I was

with my ex-fiance who is everything I'm not. Independent, confident,

strong......And then my ex-cousin comes and all they talk about is

their fancy house, money, wanting to get a place by the lake and when

they ask how I get along without a car I say I take busses. I feel

like scum. Imbarrassed. Like I'm not worth being around. then I

come home and honestly can't face my dumpy apartment, my life, can't

stand myself and want to die. First I think of cutting myself but

them how long would that take. I can't stamd myself anymore. What do

I have to hide from the world in order to stay alive. Then 2 days

ago I see an article on an ex-business partner who is very wealth now

and that makes me sick. Again another reminder of a person I

couldn't be. I could have it all but can't be strong, aggressive,

confident-be what you need to be to be in sales. For the first time

today I didn't care about leaving my mom, or brother behind. The

pain of being alive feels too great for me. I am alone. no one wants

me. I'm a nothing........ine

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Hi ine,

I think you really need lots of professional help -- please pardon

the unsolicited opinion.

Anyway, I shall be holding you in my mind with love and light.

Please know that no one is ever really alone. God is always an ever

present help in times of trouble. God is always there -- even in the

times that God does not seem to be present. God is an everpresent

loving and comforting presence. God is present everywhere --within

and around us. And God is always within you just as God is within me

and everyone else. God is the presence that unites all of us and

makes alive the statement that we are One.

I now claim for myself the ability to see only that Presence at work

in your life as the ever enfolding love that you desire. I now claim

for myself the ability to see you as the Truth of your being -- a

beloved child of God. I now see only the Truth of you -- that you

are a wonderful person -- made in the image and likeness of God --

that no matter what may be in the outer -- that which is the essence

of you -- that spark within you -- the Divine within you -- is

unchageable and perfect.

I am grateful that even now this prayer of mine is working on the

ethers which is made manifest in the outer. I have full faith in the

Power of God at work in all things. I let go with the knowledge all

prayers are answered-- in their perfect time. And so it is!

ine -- I am sure that there are many others on this list who are

praying for you. I am praying that you see yourself as who you truly

are -- a wonderful child of God -- a being of light and love --

worthy of staying here in this dimension. I trust that you'll see

the good that you are -- and that even just through your notes on the

internet -- you allow yourself to be a blessing to others by giving

others an opportunity to be a blessing to you.

Hang on -- you'll see that all is well after all.

In light and love,

> I don't know what to do with myself. I'm somewhat decent as long

as

> I am not involved with people who have a normal life. Today I was

> with my ex-fiance who is everything I'm not. Independent,

confident,

> strong......And then my ex-cousin comes and all they talk about is

> their fancy house, money, wanting to get a place by the lake and

when

> they ask how I get along without a car I say I take busses. I feel

> like scum. Imbarrassed. Like I'm not worth being around. then I

> come home and honestly can't face my dumpy apartment, my life,

can't

> stand myself and want to die. First I think of cutting myself but

> them how long would that take. I can't stamd myself anymore. What

do

> I have to hide from the world in order to stay alive. Then 2 days

> ago I see an article on an ex-business partner who is very wealth

now

> and that makes me sick. Again another reminder of a person I

> couldn't be. I could have it all but can't be strong, aggressive,

> confident-be what you need to be to be in sales. For the first

time

> today I didn't care about leaving my mom, or brother behind. The

> pain of being alive feels too great for me. I am alone. no one

wants

> me. I'm a nothing........ine

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Thanks, I am looking into therapy today. ine

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From: ma_vicsua ma_vicsua@...

Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 07:10:44 -0000

To: AffirmationstoDe-Stress

Subject: Re: ine

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Hi ine,<BR>

<BR>

I think you really need lots of professional help -- please pardon <BR>

the unsolicited opinion.<BR>

<BR>

Anyway,  I shall be holding you in my mind with love and light.  <BR>

Please know that no one is ever really alone. God is always an ever <BR>

present help in times of trouble.  God is always there -- even in the <BR>

times that God does not seem to be present.  God is an everpresent <BR>

loving and comforting presence.  God is present everywhere --within <BR>

and around us.  And God is always within you just as God is within me <BR>

and everyone else.  God is the presence that unites all of us and <BR>

makes alive the statement that we are One.<BR>

<BR>

I now claim for myself the ability to see only that Presence at work <BR>

in your life as the ever enfolding love that you desire.  I now claim <BR>

for myself the ability to see you as the Truth of your being -- a <BR>

beloved child of God.  I now see only the Truth of you -- that you <BR>

are a wonderful person -- made in the image and likeness of God -- <BR>

that no matter what may be in the outer -- that which is the essence <BR>

of you -- that spark within you -- the Divine within you -- is <BR>

unchageable and perfect.<BR>

<BR>

I am grateful that even now this prayer of mine is working on the <BR>

ethers which is made manifest in the outer.  I have full faith in the <BR>

Power of God at work in all things.  I let go with the knowledge all <BR>

prayers are answered-- in their perfect time. And so it is!<BR>

<BR>

ine -- I am sure that there are many others on this list who are <BR>

praying for you.  I am praying that you see yourself as who you truly <BR>

are -- a wonderful child of God -- a being of light and love -- <BR>

worthy of staying here in this dimension.  I trust that you'll see <BR>

the good that you are -- and that even just through your notes on the <BR>

internet -- you allow yourself to be a blessing to others by giving <BR>

others an opportunity to be a blessing to you.<BR>

<BR>

Hang on -- you'll see that all is well after all.<BR>

<BR>

In light and love,<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

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> I don't know what to do with myself.  I'm somewhat decent as long <BR>

as <BR>

> I am not involved with people who have a normal life.  Today I was <BR>

> with my ex-fiance who is everything I'm not. Independent, <BR>

confident, <BR>

> strong......And then my ex-cousin comes and all they talk about is <BR>

> their fancy house, money, wanting to get a place by the lake and <BR>

when <BR>

> they ask how I get along without a car I say I take busses.  I feel <BR>

> like scum.  Imbarrassed. Like I'm not worth being around.  then I <BR>

> come home and honestly can't face my dumpy apartment, my life, <BR>

can't <BR>

> stand myself and want to die.  First I think of cutting myself but <BR>

> them how long would that take. I can't stamd myself anymore.  What <BR>

do <BR>

> I have to hide from the world in order to stay alive.  Then 2 days <BR>

> ago I see an article on an ex-business partner who is very wealth <BR>

now <BR>

> and that makes me sick.  Again another reminder of a person I <BR>

> couldn't be.  I could have it all but can't be strong, aggressive, <BR>

> confident-be what you need to be to be in sales.  For the first <BR>

time <BR>

> today I didn't care about leaving my mom, or brother behind.  The <BR>

> pain of being alive feels too great for me. I am alone. no one <BR>

wants <BR>

> me. I'm a nothing........ine<BR>

<BR>

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Dear ine,

First off, let me say that I know that you have a whole lot of people

around here who care for you!! ine, I know that you know that, too.

Anytime you have gotten down, you have always had support here. I'm glad that

you feel comfortable enough with us to write to us, and to tell us how you are

feeling. However, when you start feeling as bad as you are telling us today,

....you also know that I will tell you to go to therapy or to a doctor today,

immediately. Sometimes your thoughts can be fleeting, and last for only a few

seconds, or minutes, but just in case, those bad thoughts continue -- you should

positively seek out help NOW!

ine, I also agree with what and Charlene told you.

ine, you are one of those remarkable people who been " to hell and back " MORE

than a few times in your lifetime, and you are still around, and able to talk

about it! It is because of your trials and life difficulties, that you feel so

much, and hurt so much too. All of us can, and WILL pray for you (as always),

but you have to go to the doctor or hospital too! Don't wait, go ask for help

locally where you are. Then, check in with us later on. Let us know what the

doctor said. We care about you, we are sad that you are feeling so " down " , but

other than giving you cyber hugs through the computer, and prayers, and to be

good listeners, that is about all we can offer. Keep hanging in there! Love,

PJ

shreiman wrote:

I don't know what to do with myself. I'm somewhat decent as long as

I am not involved with people who have a normal life. Today I was

with my ex-fiance who is everything I'm not. Independent, confident,

strong......And then my ex-cousin comes and all they talk about is

their fancy house, money, wanting to get a place by the lake and when

they ask how I get along without a car I say I take busses. I feel

like scum. Imbarrassed. Like I'm not worth being around. then I

come home and honestly can't face my dumpy apartment, my life, can't

stand myself and want to die. First I think of cutting myself but

them how long would that take. I can't stamd myself anymore. What do

I have to hide from the world in order to stay alive. Then 2 days

ago I see an article on an ex-business partner who is very wealth now

and that makes me sick. Again another reminder of a person I

couldn't be. I could have it all but can't be strong, aggressive,

confident-be what you need to be to be in sales. For the first time

today I didn't care about leaving my mom, or brother behind. The

pain of being alive feels too great for me. I am alone. no one wants

me. I'm a nothing........ine

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ine,

I'm sorry that things have come crashing down on you again. I'm glad that

you went to the doctor, though! If you remember, this has happened to you

before, and you have gotten much better. I have no doubt that you will get

better this time, as well. I'm saying prayers for you, and have you in my daily

thoughts, and am hoping that you will be feeling much better in a matter of

days! Feel free to write to me anytime: mollyann365@...

Love and Hugs to You, PJ

" shreiman@... " wrote:

thanks, I went to the psy yesterday and they increased my meds and today I

called my case worker and will ask about therapy. I know I was doing so

well. Well, I lost the car, was not able to get to my group and my

mother-in-law had surgery. Too many changes. Too much smacking me in the

face. I am in a place now that I get too upset when I run into anyone

having what I call a normal life. Never been this bad. But I have to get

therapy. and try to reach out more to help myself. ine

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From: PJ mollyann365@...

Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 12:51:15 -0700 (PDT)

To: AffirmationstoDe-Stress

Subject: Re: ine

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<tt>

Dear ine,<BR>

<BR>

First off, let me say that I know that you have a whole lot of

people around here who care for you!! ine, I know that you know that,

too. Anytime you have gotten down, you have always had support here. I'm

glad that you feel comfortable enough with us to write to us, and to tell

us how you are feeling. However, when you start feeling as bad as you are

telling us today, ...you also know that I will tell you to go to therapy or

to a doctor today, immediately. Sometimes your thoughts can be fleeting,

and last for only a few seconds, or minutes, but just in case, those bad

thoughts continue -- you should positively seek out help NOW! <BR>

<BR>

ine, I also agree with what and Charlene told

you. ine, you are one of those remarkable people who been " to hell and

back " MORE than a few times in your lifetime, and you are still around, and

able to talk about it! It is because of your trials and life difficulties,

that you feel so much, and hurt so much too. All of us can, and WILL pray

for you (as always), but you have to go to the doctor or hospital too!

Don't wait, go ask for help locally where you are. Then, check in with us

later on. Let us know what the doctor said. We care about you, we are sad

that you are feeling so " down " , but other than giving you cyber hugs

through the computer, and prayers, and to be good listeners, that is about

all we can offer. Keep hanging in there! Love, PJ<BR>

<BR>

shreiman wrote:<BR>

I don't know what to do with myself. I'm somewhat decent as long as <BR>

I am not involved with people who have a normal life. Today I was <BR>

with my ex-fiance who is everything I'm not. Independent, confident, <BR>

strong......And then my ex-cousin comes and all they talk about is <BR>

their fancy house, money, wanting to get a place by the lake and when <BR>

they ask how I get along without a car I say I take busses. I feel <BR>

like scum. Imbarrassed. Like I'm not worth being around. then I <BR>

come home and honestly can't face my dumpy apartment, my life, can't <BR>

stand myself and want to die. First I think of cutting myself but <BR>

them how long would that take. I can't stamd myself anymore. What do <BR>

I have to hide from the world in order to stay alive. Then 2 days <BR>

ago I see an article on an ex-business partner who is very wealth now <BR>

and that makes me sick. Again another reminder of a person I <BR>

couldn't be. I could have it all but can't be strong, aggressive, <BR>

confident-be what you need to be to be in sales. For the first time <BR>

today I didn't care about leaving my mom, or brother behind. The <BR>

pain of being alive feels too great for me. I am alone. no one wants <BR>

me. I'm a nothing........ine<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

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Has anyone ever heard of the supplements 5HTP. You can get it in the

health store. Or the herb Passion Flower for depression? Has anyone

ever used it? ine

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