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Thanks from me, too! It was a lot of fun and I enjoyed meeting everyone. My husband enjoyed it too (I was a little nervous about that!)

Betsy

Just wanted to say thank you for coordinating the joint San/Austin meeting. It was definitely a pleasure meeting you both

and your friend Mark, Courtenay, and you and your husband, Betty.Bill and I really enjoyed getting to know you and the helpfulconversations! I look forward to seeing you all again soon.I'll get those pictures developed within the next couple of days.

Jan, if I e-mail you the pictures as attachments, will you considerposting them on the site?Thanks -- you all take care! :o)

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OMG! Betsy, please, please forgive me for typing your name wrong.

Purely typo-fog, not hypo-fog, I promise!

:o)

> >

> > Just wanted to say thank you for coordinating the joint San

> > /Austin meeting. It was definitely a pleasure meeting you

both

> > and your friend Mark, Courtenay, and you and your husband, Betty.

> > Bill and I really enjoyed getting to know you and the helpful

> > conversations! I look forward to seeing you all again soon.

> >

> > I'll get those pictures developed within the next couple of days.

> > Jan, if I e-mail you the pictures as attachments, will you

consider

> > posting them on the site?

> >

> > Thanks -- you all take care!

> > :o)

> >

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I had a great time-- all of you are such nice people! I'm hoping we

can plan another joint meeting for the beginning of July. What do

y'all think?

Best--

Courtenay.

>Thanks from me, too! It was a lot of fun and I enjoyed meeting

>everyone. My husband enjoyed it too (I was a little nervous about

>that!)

>

>Betsy

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One of the real treats of the meetings we have had in North Texas has been meeting the husbands. They are, as a group, mellow, earthy, low-key, smart, and funny. I guess that is what it takes to live with a hypothyroid woman. . . .Courtenay wrote:

I had a great time-- all of you are such nice people! I'm hoping we can plan another joint meeting for the beginning of July. What do y'all think?Best--Courtenay.>Thanks from me, too! It was a lot of fun and I enjoyed meeting >everyone. My husband enjoyed it too (I was a little nervous about >that!)>>Betsy

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Jan, I'm printing that out for my husband - he'll get a kick out of it.

July, yeah, that will work. Hopefully we can get some more people to

join us. We'll get that picture posted so they know we're not ogres. ;-)On 5/17/05, Jan <texasthyroid@...

> wrote:

One of the real treats

of the meetings we have had in North Texas has been meeting the

husbands. They are, as a group, mellow, earthy, low-key,

smart, and funny. I guess that is what it takes to live with a

hypothyroid woman. . . .

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--- Courtenay

wrote:

> I had a great time-- all of you are such nice

> people! I'm hoping we

> can plan another joint meeting for the beginning of

> July. What do

> y'all think?

i'd love to meet again. :) but, i hope, perhaps

naively, that we can find a restaurant with less soy

next time!!

rachel.

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I was thinking about that this morning. We've got two months to research restaurants in that area. Of course, barbeque and German are big there! How about Mexican? I'm sure we can dig up something!

--- Courtenay

wrote:> I had a great time-- all of you are such nice> people! I'm hoping we> can plan another joint meeting for the beginning of> July. What do> y'all think?i'd love to meet again. :) but, i hope, perhaps

naively, that we can find a restaurant with less soynext time!!rachel.

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Yes! That would be good. Do you know, I slept all the way home and

then went back to sleep as soon as we got home and slept until 8:00pm?

Courtenay, do you suppose I'm sensitive to soybean oils afterall?

or ...

, did I use up my spoon allotment?

:o)

> > I had a great time-- all of you are such nice

> > people! I'm hoping we

> > can plan another joint meeting for the beginning of

> > July. What do

> > y'all think?

>

> i'd love to meet again. :) but, i hope, perhaps

> naively, that we can find a restaurant with less soy

> next time!!

>

> rachel.

>

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I said was going to call and ask, and I didn't, so I caused my

own problem. Luckily, I had a huge breakfast right before the

meeting. :)

Courtenay.

--- Courtenay

wrote:

> I had a great time-- all of you are such nice

> people! I'm hoping we

> can plan another joint meeting for the beginning of

> July. What do

> y'all think?

i'd love to meet again. :) but, i hope, perhaps

naively, that we can find a restaurant with less soy

next time!!

rachel.

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That was a very nice thing to say Jan!

I had a great time--

all of you are such nice people! I'm hoping we

> can plan another joint meeting for the beginning of July. What do

> y'all think?

>

> Best--

>

> Courtenay.

>

>

> >Thanks from me, too! It was a lot of fun and I enjoyed meeting

> >everyone. My husband enjoyed it too (I was a little nervous about

> >that!)

> >

> >Betsy

>

>

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Thank goodness. Somebody has got to have some prior

knowledge of New Braunsfels. Anyone?

I was thinking about that this morning.

We've got two months to research restaurants in that area. Of course,

barbeque and German are big there! How about Mexican? I'm sure we can

dig up something!

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Jeez, I don't know, . Have you ever tried

removing all the soy from your diet? It's a real pain, but when

I was eating it accidentally I slept like Snow White. The last

time I had soy accidentally was a soy-fed turkey on Thanksgiving.

I finished my last bite, and announced to the table that I was going

to bed. I didn't wake up until our guests had left, about 9 p.m.

Then again, you may have used up all your spoons. I had

been saving spoons for the meeting for two weeks.

Courtenay.

Yes! That would be good.

Do you know, I slept all the way home and

then went back to sleep as soon as we got home and slept until

8:00pm?

Courtenay, do you suppose I'm sensitive to soybean oils afterall?

or ...

, did I use up my spoon allotment?

:o)

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i am up for anything. and betsy, i'm from austin: i

can eat mexican 3 meals a day and not tire of it! ;)

maybe the NB chamber of commerce has a listing of

restaurants in the area?

rachel.

--- Courtenay

wrote:

> Thank goodness. Somebody has got to have some prior

> knowledge of New

> Braunsfels. Anyone?

>

> >I was thinking about that this morning. We've got

> two months to

> >research restaurants in that area. Of course,

> barbeque and German

> >are big there! How about Mexican? I'm sure we can

> dig up something!

> >

> >

> >On 5/17/05, Slack

>

>curlyrachel2001@...>

> wrote:

> >

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Betsy, I could lay my head down on my desk right now and go right to

sleep! And I haven't had a bit of soy today.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>.

> , I almost fell asleep near the end of the trip home, and I

was

> tempted to nap when we got home. I fought it because I figured I'd

be awake

> late and throw my schedule off the next day. And I ate some LC

bread (which

> is high in soy) on Sunday and felt some sort of reaction (nothing

major,

> don't remember exactly what). But now I'm wondering, too.

> Is it nap time yet???

>

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Dear Courtenay:

What surprised me was that there was any soy in the meat whatsoever,

even more so that all the meat had been treated with soybean oil! I

have read that some people aren't bothered by soybean oil even though

they are bothered by soy itself so I guess I figured I'd be one of

those, since it sounded a lot easier (haha)! I do eat some salad

dressing with traces of it so I just don't know.

You're so smart to inquire at a restaurant because it just wouldn't

occur to me that soy oil would be in meat! Even turkey! Why? It

seems like I'm able to eat less variety as time goes on or maybe I'm

just noticing the terrible fatigue more when I do stray from the good

stuff. Oh well. Better get back to work. Sigh.

~

> Jeez, I don't know, . Have you ever tried removing all the

soy

> from your diet? It's a real pain, but when I was eating it

> accidentally I slept like Snow White. The last time I had soy

> accidentally was a soy-fed turkey on Thanksgiving. I finished my

> last bite, and announced to the table that I was going to bed. I

> didn't wake up until our guests had left, about 9 p.m.

>

> Then again, you may have used up all your spoons. I had been

saving

> spoons for the meeting for two weeks.

>

> Courtenay.

>

>

>

> >Yes! That would be good. Do you know, I slept all the way home

and

> >then went back to sleep as soon as we got home and slept until

8:00pm?

> >

> >Courtenay, do you suppose I'm sensitive to soybean oils afterall?

> >or ...

> >

> >, did I use up my spoon allotment?

> >

> >:o)

> >

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SOY!!!!

The remedy for my insomnia!!!!! :-)

I'm just joking. However, I must have had something like this for lunch, because I am about to fall out. I am struggling with all my might to keep my eyes open here at work

My belly is fully and I have dream clouds circling my head and taunting me for staying awake.

Kay

leoyellowrose wrote:

Dear Courtenay:What surprised me was that there was any soy in the meat whatsoever, even more so that all the meat had been treated with soybean oil! I have read that some people aren't bothered by soybean oil even though they are bothered by soy itself so I guess I figured I'd be one of those, since it sounded a lot easier (haha)! I do eat some salad dressing with traces of it so I just don't know.You're so smart to inquire at a restaurant because it just wouldn't occur to me that soy oil would be in meat! Even turkey! Why? It seems like I'm able to eat less variety as time goes on or maybe I'm just noticing the terrible fatigue more when I do stray from the good stuff. Oh well. Better get back to work. Sigh.~> Jeez, I don't know, . Have you ever tried removing all the soy > from your diet? It's a real pain, but when I was eating it > accidentally I slept like Snow White. The last time I had soy > accidentally was a soy-fed turkey on Thanksgiving. I finished my > last bite, and announced to the table that I was going to bed. I > didn't wake up until our guests had left, about 9 p.m.> > Then again, you may have used up all your spoons. I had been saving > spoons for the meeting for two weeks.> > Courtenay.> > > > >Yes! That would be good. Do you know, I slept all the way home and> >then went back to sleep as soon as we got home and slept until 8:00pm?> >> >Courtenay, do you suppose I'm sensitive to soybean oils

afterall?> >or ...> >> >, did I use up my spoon allotment?> >> >:o) > >__________________________________________________

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Turkey is known to be very high in Tryptophan, which is why it makes people sleep so well. BTW, it just dawned on me sitting here writing this that pork also is high in tryptophan. Hmmmmmm.......

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Jeez, I don't know, . Have you ever tried removing all the soy from your diet? It's a real pain, but when I was eating it accidentally I slept like Snow White. The last time I had soy accidentally was a soy-fed turkey on Thanksgiving. I finished my last bite, and announced to the table that I was going to bed. I didn't wake up until our guests had left, about 9 p.m.

Then again, you may have used up all your spoons. I had been saving spoons for the meeting for two weeks.

Courtenay.

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Oh ladies, what am I going to do? I'm starting to feel so hopeless.

There is such a limit already on things I can eat. One thing I can

apparently freely eat is meat but if I have to start ruling out

turkey and pork, that only leaves fish, beef and chicken. And fish

is full of mercury and beef is full of estrogens. Sigh ... I don't

know what my co-workers will say when I bring my hotplate to work and

start frying up t-bones for breakfast and lunch (just kidding)!

:-(

> Re: Thank you Courtenay and !Turkey is

known to be very high in Tryptophan, which is why it makes people

sleep so well. BTW, it just dawned on me sitting here writing this

that pork also is high in tryptophan. Hmmmmmm.......

>

>

>

> Re: Thank you Courtenay and

!

>

>

> Jeez, I don't know, . Have you ever tried removing all the

soy from your diet? It's a real pain, but when I was eating it

accidentally I slept like Snow White. The last time I had soy

accidentally was a soy-fed turkey on Thanksgiving. I finished my

last bite, and announced to the table that I was going to bed. I

didn't wake up until our guests had left, about 9 p.m.

>

>

> Then again, you may have used up all your spoons. I had been

saving spoons for the meeting for two weeks.

>

>

> Courtenay.

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I have been thinking about spoons all morning. I had a long frustrating series of phone conversations with custsomer service today about my Mom's phone bill (well, the conversation was less than 5 minutes - getting to that point was the other 55!). I'm just wiped out now. I can't believe how tired that made me. I need spoons. :-)

Luckily I get to go home early - after seeing stupid endo.

Then again, you may have used up all your spoons. I had been saving spoons for the meeting for two weeks.

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leoyellowrose, don't let it get you down. No food is perfect. That is

why we have livers that can detoxify foods. I avoid the most dangerous

fish, predators like shark, bottom feeders where the mercury

concentrate and shellfish which also concentrate heavy metals. The rest

of the fish are less bad. Yes, meat has those things, but it tastes

good and I eat it. Also remember eggs are protein too. And when we only

have fish or meat as a "side" to vegetables, I count on my liver to

detox it.-C

leoyellowrose wrote:

Oh ladies, what am I going to do? I'm starting to feel so hopeless.

There is such a limit already on things I can eat. One thing I can

apparently freely eat is meat but if I have to start ruling out

turkey and pork, that only leaves fish, beef and chicken. And fish

is full of mercury and beef is full of estrogens. Sigh ... I don't

know what my co-workers will say when I bring my hotplate to work and

start frying up t-bones for breakfast and lunch (just kidding)!

:-(

> Re: Thank you Courtenay and !Turkey

is

known to be very high in Tryptophan, which is why it makes people

sleep so well. BTW, it just dawned on me sitting here writing this

that pork also is high in tryptophan. Hmmmmmm.......

>

>

>

> Re: Thank you Courtenay and

!

>

>

> Jeez, I don't know, . Have you ever tried removing all

the

soy from your diet? It's a real pain, but when I was eating it

accidentally I slept like Snow White. The last time I had soy

accidentally was a soy-fed turkey on Thanksgiving. I finished my

last bite, and announced to the table that I was going to bed. I

didn't wake up until our guests had left, about 9 p.m.

>

>

> Then again, you may have used up all your spoons. I had been

saving spoons for the meeting for two weeks.

>

>

> Courtenay.

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Organic beef is pretty safe, so is organic chicken. I also

eat no-preservative sausage, tuna in oil, or no-soy canned tuna from

Whole Foods. As for fish, I eat Alaskan salmon and Mahi-mahi, a

rather quick growing fish. I'm not so hot on pork products

(individual preference).

Where I get my variety is the way in which I prepare things, and

my choice of vegetables. I really try to vary my seasonal

veggies so that I don't get sick and tired of the same ol', same

ol'.

Courtenay.

Oh ladies, what am I going to do?

I'm starting to feel so hopeless.

There is such a limit already on things I can eat. One thing I

can

apparently freely eat is meat but if I have to start ruling out

turkey and pork, that only leaves fish, beef and chicken. And

fish

is full of mercury and beef is full of estrogens. Sigh ...

I don't

know what my co-workers will say when I bring my hotplate to work

and

start frying up t-bones for breakfast and lunch (just kidding)!

:-(

> Re: Thank you Courtenay and !Turkey

is

known to be very high in Tryptophan, which is why it makes people

sleep so well. BTW, it just dawned on me sitting here writing

this

that pork also is high in tryptophan. Hmmmmmm.......

>

>

>

>

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Yesterday was a doozy for me. Nothing went right. I went through

all my spoons and managed to borrow a few from today, so I'll take

any silverware anyone has to spare, thank you very much.

Hope your spoons are replenished tomorrow, Betsy!

Best--

Courtenay.

>I have been thinking about spoons all morning. I had a long

>frustrating series of phone conversations with custsomer service

>today about my Mom's phone bill (well, the conversation was less

>than 5 minutes - getting to that point was the other 55!). I'm just

>wiped out now. I can't believe how tired that made me. I need

>spoons. :-)

>

>Luckily I get to go home early - after seeing stupid endo.

>

>

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The same goes for you too, Courtenay -- if I ever have a few to spare,

I'm sending them your way! This whole conversation is kind of funny

because I just ordered and received a complete silverware service for

12 -- this includes teaspoons, soup spoons, and ice tea spoons, 12 of

each. You'd think I'd have plenty!? (The only problem is, I'll have

to spread them out over 6 months ...)

> Yesterday was a doozy for me. Nothing went right. I went through

> all my spoons and managed to borrow a few from today, so I'll take

> any silverware anyone has to spare, thank you very much.

>

> Hope your spoons are replenished tomorrow, Betsy!

>

> Best--

>

> Courtenay.

>

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Well, there's certainly nothing wrong with a little tryptophan, but I feel

your pain, because I'm beginning to think that I'm allergic to every other

thing. All those veggies on the goitrogen list, I'm still eating cooked

because I've GOT to (folic acid). I do eat beans also, but I don't think

I'm going to be eating them every single day. The soy I've stayed away from

as much as possible, but I'm sure that it's been in some things that I'm

unaware of. I'm not going to drop all those veggies and fruits, unless I'm

literally having an allergic reaction to them. I've been yearning for a

banana, but I know that I can't have them. Yes, it's frustrating, so I'm

not going to worry too much about it, or I can't even enjoy life. What I

feel about it a lot of the time is anger at the thought of not being able to

enjoy these things.

Re: Thank you Courtenay and !

> Oh ladies, what am I going to do? I'm starting to feel so hopeless.

> There is such a limit already on things I can eat. One thing I can

> apparently freely eat is meat but if I have to start ruling out

> turkey and pork, that only leaves fish, beef and chicken. And fish

> is full of mercury and beef is full of estrogens. Sigh ... I don't

> know what my co-workers will say when I bring my hotplate to work and

> start frying up t-bones for breakfast and lunch (just kidding)!

>

> :-(

>

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Tuna has soy??? Or is that oil-packed tuna using soybean oil?

I've been using water-packed since it came out umpteen years ago.On 5/18/05, Slack <curlyrachel2001@...

> wrote:alright, i love tuna. which one from whole foods isthe no soy? :)

rachel.

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