Re: a whole lotta complaining

[Guest guest]

Hey, Courtenay, I’m up late too. Slept in really late this morning. I think the Foltx combined with my sedating antidepressants and the clonazepam to make me extra sleepy. Got more awake during the day with getting outside awhile. I think it will right itself with time.

About the quitting smoking. Definitely you have side effects of light headedness, tiredness and possible depression. You’ve been self-medicating with the nicotine to have energy, just like folks do with caffeine, and you’re now letting it go. A wonderful thing to accomplish, but not without ramifications. And if hypo, possibly more serious. Have you talked to Dr. R. about this? Some folks go on Zyban to help counteract the withdrawal symptoms. I really think you should talk to him about this and how you are feeling.

Both hubby and I had withdrawal symptoms described above when we each quit smoking years ago. Don’t be hard on yourself! This is a very courageous yet tough thing to do- for “healthy” people, let alone hypo folks.!! If you want to talk about it, feel free to email me off line and I’ll give you my phone number. Hubby is in health care field and knows personally about smoking cessation difficulties. He said he’d be glad to talk to you.

Take really good care,

Sara

Hey everyone--

Just wanted to check in and say that I am having a particularly hard

week physically, and I am not sure why. I've been really champing at

the bit to do some writing, housework and creative projects in small

doses, but my body is not cooperating this week. I don't know if

it's due to the fact that I am tapering down my smoking (I'm quitting

cold turkey on Tuesday); still adjusting to the Armour increase (it's

my second week); or some other unnameable cause but I am frustrated

and bored: a lethal combination.

Today I slept for sixteen hours despite the fact that I had plans to

do a few interesting things (didn't happen); my large dog is

wandering around the house with dreadlocks because I am too tired to

brush her thoroughly; too fatigued to return phone calls to chipper

people who actually have the gall and wherewithal to leave the house,

work, and have a life. I've watched more episodes of The Simpsons

than I care to recount and I can barely concentrate enough to read

some of the " real " books I purchased last weekend.

All of these are simple random complaints, but I am looking for a

little reassurance that this eventually will get better, and stay

better long enough for me to appreciate it without the fear that I

will wake up one morning as comatose as ever. Help?

Courtenay.

[Guest guest]

--- Jan wrote:

> Is it possible that you are getting the upper

> respiratory crud that a lot of us have had? My first

> symptom was just sleeping a lot. Then I had swollen

> glands for a week, with just a little congestion.

> That scared me that they lasted so long. I was

> afraid I had mono or something, so I went to the

> doc. He said it was most likely viral, that swollen

> glands were a symptom of the flu.

i have been on my butt since saturday with that stuff.

but, my doc thinks mine is bacterial. its NASTY

stuff. started out exhausted, then a light cough,

then came the mucus. now, after 3 days on

antibiotics, i think i have a sinus infection! the

doc says the antibiotics should kill it all off with

the full 10day course, but i am miserable. still.

i'd be home again today if i had the leave time.

rachel.

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sara--

Thanks so much for your kind thoughts. I am looking forward

to quitting smoking on Tuesday, as I have spent the last four years

fretting about smoking. I've gotten to the point where I don't

like fretting and I don't like smoking, so I think I'm good to go,

mentally. Physically, I am a little frightened because hypo

people have been known possibly to become more hypo when they quit.

No doctor I've spoken with seems to know anything about this issue,

but they all have wanted me to quit. And why not? It's the

big bad daddy of bad habits. I'd be better of eating Mc's

cheeseburgers six times a week.

Any advice you can offer, I would really appreciate. Today

was a much better day than yesterday; more productive, and more

peaceful. In addition, I had an appointment with my therapist,

which is like visiting with a guru. He's very nurturing and

helpful, very spiritual. He's been the big advocator of my

quitting smoking, and he has been quite practical in his

approach.

Thanks for everything--

Courtenay.

Hey, Courtenay, I'm

up late too. Slept in really late this morning. I think the Foltx

combined with my sedating antidepressants and the clonazepam to make

me extra sleepy. Got more awake during the day with getting outside

awhile. I think it will right itself with time.

About the quitting smoking. Definitely you have side effects of light

headedness, tiredness and possible depression. You've been

self-medicating with the nicotine to have energy, just like folks do

with caffeine, and you're now letting it go. A wonderful thing to

accomplish, but not without ramifications. And if hypo, possibly more

serious. Have you talked to Dr. R. about this? Some folks go on Zyban

to help counteract the withdrawal symptoms. I really think you should

talk to him about this and how you are feeling.

Both hubby and I had withdrawal symptoms described above when we each

quit smoking years ago. Don't be hard on yourself! This is a very

courageous yet tough thing to do- for "healthy" people, let alone

hypo folks.!! If you want to talk about it, feel free to email me off

line and I'll give you my phone number. Hubby is in health care

field and knows personally about smoking cessation difficulties. He

said he'd be glad to talk to you.

Take really good care,

Sara

[Guest guest]

Dear --

Your suggestion was so great that I went online and bought a mandala

coloring book this evening. I love that idea! I was fortunate to

see a rather large mandala being made a few years ago. by some monks

who were visiting from Tibet. Just recently, I've begun a study of

Buddhist meditation, and I am finding it very helpful with just

dealing with my life as it exists now, and it does improve my

day-to-day health. Also, I've been wanting to do some sketching, but

I find it too taxing to concentrate on the drawing process, and a

mandala coloring book is right up my alley.

Yoga is fabulous. I actually studied briefly under a serious yoga

teacher twelve years ago. When I get a teensy bit better, I am going

to return to yoga. It pleases me to no end to find someone who

shares these interests!

I am looking forward to quitting on Tuesday. I feel like I am

finally ready to close that chapter of my youth. Instead of gum,

I've decided to chew on cinnamon sticks. I am going to spend the

first day in bed with a bag of baby carrots, many other healthy

snacks and a stack of movies. My hope is that I can detox quietly

and privately for a few days.

I really appreciate your thoughtfulness.

Courtenay.

>Courtenay,

>Things WILL get better. We have to believe that, its what gives us

>the strength to keep living.

>Have you ever tried coloring in a Mandala coloring book? It sounds

>childish but is very relaxing and spiritual too. (it is a form of

>meditation- great for when you are too tired to actually meditate).

>

>Sometimes your body just needs a rest, and you should just let it

>be. I have also been struggling with smoking. Actually, what forced

>me to quit is the fact that all of the sudden, I developed athsma

>and a cigarette allergy (weird). Now, if I try to start smoking, I

>have trouble breathing. Yoga and meditation also reduce my desire to

>smoke, b/c they require deep breathing (and If I have been smoking I

>can't breath very deeply-which screws up my meditation).

>

>I really hope you feel better, and good luck with quitting smoking!!

>(it is really hard, but you can do it-i found that the gum works

>better than the patches by the way-even just regular gum)

>

>-

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, dear. I am so sorry that you got the crud that's been

going around. I actually had a dagnasty sinus infection four

weeks ago that would not go away, even after I started serious

antibiotics. It took the full ten days of superdrugs to kick it

over. I don't know if I am coming down with something new or

not, and it will be hard to tell because I will be doing a lot of

coughing next week. Are you healed now?

Courtenay.

Is it possible that you are getting the upper

respiratory crud that a lot of us have had? My first symptom was just

sleeping a lot. Then I had swollen glands for a week, with just a

little congestion. That scared me that they lasted so long. I was

afraid I had mono or something, so I went to the doc. He said it

was most likely viral, that swollen glands were a symptom of the

flu.

[Guest guest]

Dear Debbie--

I am so glad you shared your story. I was one of the scary

kind of smokers (2 packs a day) until I went full blown hypothyroid

last year, and managed to taper down to a pack a day overnight.

I am aiming for herbal teas, cinnamon sticks, oranges, and possibly

pomegranate juice to speed up the detox.

I've been told that blood sugar levels can get wacky when you

quit, so I am going to attempt to stay the course on the diet

prescribed for me to counteract it. I will take to heart the

idea of eating small quantities of desired foods if my body seems to

be truly craving them. My body is usually pretty straightforward

about telling me what it does and doesn't want.

This week just amazed me because last week had so many perks to

it-- I was able to take an afternoon trip to Austin last week, and I

managed to go and visit my favorite bookseller at a local flea

market. I guess when I'm given a little bit of energy I am

loathe to relinquish it. I had two stressful events earlier in

the week, and I am wondering if that's what caused some sort of bodily

reaction later. And, as you mentioned, it's only my second week

on the new dosage, so who knows what my body is dealing with

chemically.

I very much appreciate your thoughts and support.

Courtenay.

Courtenay,

I quit smoking three packs of cigarettes a day 16

years ago on March 17th. I still have dreams where I

am just smoking my brains out. I found that if I

transfered my addiction to something else that I could

break later, helped. For me it was conversation heart

candies and Perrier water. The candy is only around

this time of year, so I knew that I would run out, and

the Perrier I switched to other kinds of water.

Also this is not the time to deny yourself. If you

feel like a certain food, enjoy it, maybe just smaller

quantities. This helped during the months after

quitting, because I felt less deprived.

As far as you not feeling well this week, I know when

I was going up on my thyroid meds I would have times

where my body had to adjust, and I would feel worse.

That coupled with withdrawing from cigarettes, is

quite uncomfortable.

I wish you my best on quitting next week.

Debbie

[Guest guest]

Hi, Courtenay!

I just wanted to let you know I have been going through the same

thing for 2-3 weeks. For me, I thought maybe my last refill of

Armour was subpotent (I called the pharmacist though and she said it

was from the same lot and she didn't have any other complaints), or

from the progesterone cream I've added recently or a fever two weeks

ago or WHAT! All I know is I've been struggling with many hypo

symptoms -- I'm sore all over, very exhausted, short of breath,

can't think straight, motivation zip and the whole plethora of hypo

crap. Ugh! I was just getting ready to call the doctor's office

but I thought I'd get a refill and see if things improved.

My daughter just told me last night she is feeling the SAME WAY --

extremely hypo and she's on synthroid. What's the common element?

We all live in S.A. Could it be this cold gray, gray, gray

weather? I don't know! Anybody else in S.A. experiencing this? I

just know I hope things get back to normal soon. I was doing so

much better I don't want to go back. nononono.

Here's to getting back to better soon!

PS Good luck quitting smoking! Will be keeping my fingers crossed

for you -- keep busy with those pumpkin seeds & sunflower seeds!

> Hey everyone--

>

> Just wanted to check in and say that I am having a particularly

hard

> week physically, and I am not sure why. I've been really champing

at

> the bit to do some writing, housework and creative projects in

small

> doses, but my body is not cooperating this week. I don't know if

> it's due to the fact that I am tapering down my smoking (I'm

quitting

> cold turkey on Tuesday); still adjusting to the Armour increase

(it's

> my second week); or some other unnameable cause but I am

frustrated

> and bored: a lethal combination.

>

> Today I slept for sixteen hours despite the fact that I had plans

to

> do a few interesting things (didn't happen); my large dog is

> wandering around the house with dreadlocks because I am too tired

to

> brush her thoroughly; too fatigued to return phone calls to

chipper

> people who actually have the gall and wherewithal to leave the

house,

> work, and have a life. I've watched more episodes of The

Simpsons

> than I care to recount and I can barely concentrate enough to read

> some of the " real " books I purchased last weekend.

>

> All of these are simple random complaints, but I am looking for a

> little reassurance that this eventually will get better, and stay

> better long enough for me to appreciate it without the fear that I

> will wake up one morning as comatose as ever. Help?

>

> Courtenay.

[Guest guest]

Dampness is a surefire way to get thyroid meds to go bad. A lid left ajar or a drop of water on your hand is all it takes. This could also happen at the pharmacy.

Also check your pills to make sure you did not get slipped a generic. I would get the next fill at a different pharmacy, too. wrote:

Hi, Courtenay!I just wanted to let you know I have been going through the same thing for 2-3 weeks. For me, I thought maybe my last refill of Armour was subpotent (I called the pharmacist though and she said it was from the same lot and she didn't have any other complaints), or from the progesterone cream I've added recently or a fever two weeks ago or WHAT! All I know is I've been struggling with many hypo symptoms -- I'm sore all over, very exhausted, short of breath, can't think straight, motivation zip and the whole plethora of hypo crap. Ugh! I was just getting ready to call the doctor's office but I thought I'd get a refill and see if things improved.My daughter just told me last night she is feeling the SAME WAY -- extremely hypo and she's on synthroid. What's the common

element? We all live in S.A. Could it be this cold gray, gray, gray weather? I don't know! Anybody else in S.A. experiencing this? I just know I hope things get back to normal soon. I was doing so much better I don't want to go back. nononono.Here's to getting back to better soon! PS Good luck quitting smoking! Will be keeping my fingers crossed for you -- keep busy with those pumpkin seeds & sunflower seeds!> Hey everyone--> > Just wanted to check in and say that I am having a particularly hard > week physically, and I am not sure why. I've been really champing at > the bit to do some writing, housework and creative projects in small > doses, but my body is not cooperating this week. I don't know if

> it's due to the fact that I am tapering down my smoking (I'm quitting > cold turkey on Tuesday); still adjusting to the Armour increase (it's > my second week); or some other unnameable cause but I am frustrated > and bored: a lethal combination.> > Today I slept for sixteen hours despite the fact that I had plans to > do a few interesting things (didn't happen); my large dog is > wandering around the house with dreadlocks because I am too tired to > brush her thoroughly; too fatigued to return phone calls to chipper > people who actually have the gall and wherewithal to leave the house, > work, and have a life. I've watched more episodes of The Simpsons > than I care to recount and I can barely concentrate enough to read > some of the "real" books I purchased last weekend.> > All of these are simple random complaints, but I am

looking for a > little reassurance that this eventually will get better, and stay > better long enough for me to appreciate it without the fear that I > will wake up one morning as comatose as ever. Help?> > Courtenay.__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jan.

I have been thinking about transferring my 'script to Walmart for

that very reason. I'm sure HEB didn't slip me a generic though

unless the generic look exactly like Armour. Also, I used to keep

my Armour in the bathroom cabinet and then I started thinking about

all that humidity so I don't do that anymore.

>

> Hi, Courtenay!

>

> I just wanted to let you know I have been going through the same

> thing for 2-3 weeks. For me, I thought maybe my last refill of

> Armour was subpotent (I called the pharmacist though and she said

it

> was from the same lot and she didn't have any other complaints),

or

> from the progesterone cream I've added recently or a fever two

weeks

> ago or WHAT!