Re: Melatonin

[Guest guest]

,

Our neurologist prescribe melatonin to my son we never had any

problems however when my niece tried Melatonin, she had tummy pains and a

headache within 30-1 hour of taking it.

I hope the below information helps.

ADVERSE REACTIONS - Melatonin

Adverse reactions associated with melatonin include stomach discomfort,

morning grogginess, daytime " hangover, " feeling of a " heavy head, " depression,

psychotic episodes (in combination with fluoxetine), headache, lethargy,

fragmented disorientation, amnesia, inhibition of fertility, increased seizure

activity, suppression of male sexual drive, hypothermia, retinal damage,

gynecomastia and low sperm count. Typically, these reports are related to high

doses. However, adverse effects have been reported and can occur with low doses

as well.

May God Bless You and Keep You,

Stacie

" H. " wrote: Can someone tell me what are the

adverse reactions to melatonin use?

In raising my children I have lost my mind but found my soul. -

Shepherd

[Guest guest]

Wow! Those side effects are enough to scare me away.....except that my 3

kids and I have been using it for the past 5 months with absolutely no side

effects. In fact, we all wake up feeling refreshed and ready to face the

day. There has been no grogginess or hang over effect, the black circles

under the kids eyes are gone, the tiredness and crankiness is all gone, no

more battles at bed time, and I don't have to drag them out of bed in the

mornings. My 7 yr olds triplets take 1 mg about 30 minutes before bedtime

and they, all 3, kiss us goodnight, go get in bed, and go directly to sleep.

They seldom even get up for one last drink of water. Our doctors (Dr.

and Dr. Rao) both said that it won't hurt them, there are no long

term effects or dangers of addiction, and that we should keep the dosage to

3 mg or less per day. 1mg seems to do the trick for us.

Melatonin is something that the body produces at night, when it gets dark,

to make you sleepy. Many people that have a hard time falling asleep (like

me) are actually low in melatonin.

I buy Natrol, or NOW brands. They are both GFCF. and are less than $10 per

bottle.

Good luck!

in Cedar Park

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/30/2006 10:13:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,

lgrahamgarza@... writes:

I'm looking for a supplement to help my three year old stay asleep.

The last time I shopped at Vitamin World I was given a complimentary booklet

on vitamins and supplements. In the relaxation section it reads:

- Melatonin promotes quality sleep. In a placebo-controlled study 22 people

with sleep complaints were randomized to receive Melatonin (3mg) or placebo

for four weeks*. Results showed Melatonin significantly improved subjective

sleep quality, as compared with placebo. The study also showed that Melatonin

can lengthen sleep time and quality of sleep, as well as aid in the support of

restful sleep patterns.

*Campos Fl, et al. Melatonin improves sleep in asthma: a randomized,

double-blind, placebo-controlled study. American Journal Respiratory Critical

Care

Med. 2004 Nov. 1;170(9):947-51.

- St. s' Wort is an excellent supplement for anyone experiencing

occasional anxiety and everyday stress, because it gently supports a calm and

relaxed feeling. In a recent review study, researchers analyzed the results of

16

studies published on St. 's Wort. Based on the results of the review, the

authors concluded that St. 's Wort is an effective herb for promoting a

positive mood and mental well-being.* *

**Linde, K. Large-scale observational studies of hypericum extracts (St.

's Wort) in patients with depressive disorders--a systematic review.

Phytomedicine. 2005 Jan;12(1-2):148-57

- Valerian Root is designed to help, since it supports calm, tranquil rest,

and works in harmony with natural cycle to promote relaxation.*** In a study

for 4 men and 12 women looking to improve the quality of their sleep, the

effects of 300 mg of a Valerian Extract were tested against placebo treatment.

The researchers reported that Valerian had positive effects on sleep parameters

such as decreasing the time it took to fall asleep and increasing the amount

of time that subjects slept. Early research on Valerian found that it

supported sleep quality more effectively than placebo. The researchers

attributed

these benefits in part to the content of sesquiterpenes within Valerian.

***Donath, F., et al. Critical evaluation of the effect of valerian extract

on sleep structure and sleep quality. Pharmaco-psychiatry. 2000.

33(2);Mar:47-53

- Taurine and Glycine help maintain the neurotransmitters in the brain and

produce a calming effect on the body. Info from Kirkman Labs vitamin info

insert.

- Inositol (a B-vitamin) is a viable treatment for OCD. A number of papers

have published on the use of Inositol in the treatment of OCD, depression, and

anxiety (hair pulling, skin picking etc). It seems that Inositol is

converted by the body to a substance that regulates the action of serotonin

within

brain cells. Possible side effects are gas and diarrhea which some people

might have at first but it usually clears up or it doesn't happen at all. It

cannot be taken together with Lithium, as it seems to block its action.

Caffeine

lowers Inositol levels in the body. It should be purchased in powered form,

and taken dissolved in water or fruit juice. It has a sweet taste, and is

chemically related to sugar. It was also reported that taken in combination

with

5-HTP (around 100 mg), which is a breakdown product of the amino acid

L-Tryptophan. The body manufactures serotonin from 5-HTP, and is believed to

raise

serotonin levels in the brain. 5-HTP can cause drowsiness and is usually taken

at bedtime. 5-HTP should never be taken with any prescription antidepressant

or herbal products such as St. 's Wort, as it can cause a very serious

condition called serotonergic syndrome. This info from Inositol and

Trichotillomania by Fred Penzel, Ph.D. Read more about it at

westsuffolkpsych.homestead.com/inositol.html. September, 1996 double-blind

placebo-controlled study on

the use of high doses of inositol was published in the American Journal of

Psychiatry, conducted by Dr. Mendel Fux and colleagues in Israel.

- Bacopa Monniera is an Ayurvedic herb used in India for memory, epilepsy,

and as a mild sedative.

The above isn't advice, it's purpose is just informational. As with all

medications and supplements, consult your physician.

- Balanced Sensory Diet by using calming techniques before bedtime. Bath

followed by, massage with towel or lotion, rocking while reading bedtime story,

and sleeping under a weighted blanket. Other calming activities to help the

over-sensitive child decrease hyper-responsiveness to sensory stimulation,

included but are not limited to: sucking a pacifier, hard candy, frozen fruit

bar, spoonful of peanut butter. Wall push ups using hands, rocking, swinging,

swaying slowly back and forth. Cuddling, back rubbing.

Honestly, I have tried some of these things with my son but what seem to

help him finally sleep well, was maturity and playing hard/working hard. His

little boy metabolism just won't let him stay up late anymore. He also started

taking digestive enzymes about a month ago and pro-biotics whose function is

to break down what is known as protein peptides, which are shorter chains of

amino acids. These peptides, formed when proteins including casein and gluten

are incompletely broken down, are recognized to stimulate opioid receptors in

the body and I have definitely noticed he poops out earlier than he used to

but I'm sure that's just a coincidence. Just this past Saturday night, he was

up late playing with his 3 1/2 year old cousin and he conked out by 10:00

and my nephew was still up and energized and being hyper. I know that doesn't

help you now, but it does get better, never easier, but better.

Bon chance. R.

[Guest guest]

my daughter uses melatonin to sleep at night. The only reactions I've seen with

her is very vivid dreams where from what I can gather is she doesnt relize she

has woken up and is still dreaming.

malena

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy@...: amheartfield@...:

Mon, 29 May 2006 19:32:33 -0500Subject: MelatoninCan

someone tell me what are the adverse reactions to melatonin use?In raising

my children I have lost my mind but found my soul. - Shepherd [Non-text

portions of this message have been removed]Texas Autism

Advocacywww.TexasAutismAdvocacy.orgTexas Disability Network Calendar of

Eventswww.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

[Guest guest]

I'm looking for a supplement to help my three year old stay asleep. He will fall

asleep by 9:00pm but we could be up on and off for hours during the night and

usually are permanently up by 6:30am. I'd love it if he'd just sleep a solid

6-7 hrs without waking up once. Any advice?

Re: Melatonin

Wow! Those side effects are enough to scare me away.....except that my 3

kids and I have been using it for the past 5 months with absolutely no side

effects. In fact, we all wake up feeling refreshed and ready to face the

day. There has been no grogginess or hang over effect, the black circles

under the kids eyes are gone, the tiredness and crankiness is all gone, no

more battles at bed time, and I don't have to drag them out of bed in the

mornings. My 7 yr olds triplets take 1 mg about 30 minutes before bedtime

and they, all 3, kiss us goodnight, go get in bed, and go directly to sleep.

They seldom even get up for one last drink of water. Our doctors (Dr.

and Dr. Rao) both said that it won't hurt them, there are no long

term effects or dangers of addiction, and that we should keep the dosage to

3 mg or less per day. 1mg seems to do the trick for us.

Melatonin is something that the body produces at night, when it gets dark,

to make you sleepy. Many people that have a hard time falling asleep (like

me) are actually low in melatonin.

I buy Natrol, or NOW brands. They are both GFCF. and are less than $10 per

bottle.

Good luck!

in Cedar Park

Texas Autism Advocacy

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

Texas Disability Network

Calendar of Events

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

[Guest guest]

I have heard it said among clinicians who treat kids with ASD that sleep

problems usually wind up being one of two things, reflux or GI discomfort OR

seizures. Could be that he's going to sleep but waking up with heartburn.

Just a thought.

S.

Re: Re: Melatonin

I'm looking for a supplement to help my three year old stay asleep. He will

fall asleep by 9:00pm but we could be up on and off for hours during the

night and usually are permanently up by 6:30am. I'd love it if he'd just

sleep a solid 6-7 hrs without waking up once. Any advice?

Re: Melatonin

Wow! Those side effects are enough to scare me away.....except that my 3

kids and I have been using it for the past 5 months with absolutely no

side

effects. In fact, we all wake up feeling refreshed and ready to face the

day. There has been no grogginess or hang over effect, the black circles

under the kids eyes are gone, the tiredness and crankiness is all gone, no

more battles at bed time, and I don't have to drag them out of bed in the

mornings. My 7 yr olds triplets take 1 mg about 30 minutes before bedtime

and they, all 3, kiss us goodnight, go get in bed, and go directly to

sleep.

They seldom even get up for one last drink of water. Our doctors (Dr.

and Dr. Rao) both said that it won't hurt them, there are no long

term effects or dangers of addiction, and that we should keep the dosage

to

3 mg or less per day. 1mg seems to do the trick for us.

Melatonin is something that the body produces at night, when it gets dark,

to make you sleepy. Many people that have a hard time falling asleep

(like

me) are actually low in melatonin.

I buy Natrol, or NOW brands. They are both GFCF. and are less than $10

per

bottle.

Good luck!

in Cedar Park

Texas Autism Advocacy

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

Texas Disability Network

Calendar of Events

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

[Guest guest]

I use a loud fan in his bedroom for blank noise. It seems to help. Also,

if he takes a nap during the day, he usually does not sleep well at night.

An Epsom salt bath usually helps as well.

Re: Melatonin

Wow! Those side effects are enough to scare me away.....except that my 3

kids and I have been using it for the past 5 months with absolutely no

side

effects. In fact, we all wake up feeling refreshed and ready to face the

day. There has been no grogginess or hang over effect, the black circles

under the kids eyes are gone, the tiredness and crankiness is all gone, no

more battles at bed time, and I don't have to drag them out of bed in the

mornings. My 7 yr olds triplets take 1 mg about 30 minutes before bedtime

and they, all 3, kiss us goodnight, go get in bed, and go directly to

sleep.

They seldom even get up for one last drink of water. Our doctors (Dr.

and Dr. Rao) both said that it won't hurt them, there are no long

term effects or dangers of addiction, and that we should keep the dosage

to

3 mg or less per day. 1mg seems to do the trick for us.

Melatonin is something that the body produces at night, when it gets dark,

to make you sleepy. Many people that have a hard time falling asleep

(like

me) are actually low in melatonin.

I buy Natrol, or NOW brands. They are both GFCF. and are less than $10

per

bottle.

Good luck!

in Cedar Park

Texas Autism Advocacy

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

Texas Disability Network

Calendar of Events

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

[Guest guest]

I give him Taurine, GABA, P-5-P with Magnesium Glycinate, one capsule of each

along with Melatonin chewable 1 mg, all from kirkman. Mine is six and he

used

to wake up in the middle of the night to start the party, when I was only

giving

Melatonin capsules. Tried this way a few months now and told Dr. Rao about

it,

it worked with him.

Fayrouz

" Why are you so fearful? How is it that you have no faith? (Mark 5:40)

ginam wrote:

I use a loud fan in his bedroom for blank noise. It seems to help. Also,

if he takes a nap during the day, he usually does not sleep well at night.

An Epsom salt bath usually helps as well.

Re: Melatonin

Wow! Those side effects are enough to scare me away.....except that my 3

kids and I have been using it for the past 5 months with absolutely no

side

effects. In fact, we all wake up feeling refreshed and ready to face the

day. There has been no grogginess or hang over effect, the black circles

under the kids eyes are gone, the tiredness and crankiness is all gone, no

more battles at bed time, and I don't have to drag them out of bed in the

mornings. My 7 yr olds triplets take 1 mg about 30 minutes before bedtime

and they, all 3, kiss us goodnight, go get in bed, and go directly to

sleep.

They seldom even get up for one last drink of water. Our doctors (Dr.

and Dr. Rao) both said that it won't hurt them, there are no long

term effects or dangers of addiction, and that we should keep the dosage

to

3 mg or less per day. 1mg seems to do the trick for us.

Melatonin is something that the body produces at night, when it gets dark,

to make you sleepy. Many people that have a hard time falling asleep

(like

me) are actually low in melatonin.

I buy Natrol, or NOW brands. They are both GFCF. and are less than $10

per

bottle.

Good luck!

in Cedar Park

Texas Autism Advocacy

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

Texas Disability Network

Calendar of Events

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

[Guest guest]

Certain pharmacies will make a liquid form of melatonin. We started my little

guy on 1 mL and the dr said we can go up to 3 mL if needed. It definitely helps

him fall asleep faster but doesn't always keep him in bed (he still likes to

climb into our bed at 3 am). He always sleeps better after an active day (big

surprise).

Maggie

kgreeceman@... wrote:

In a message dated 5/30/2006 10:13:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,

lgrahamgarza@... writes:

I'm looking for a supplement to help my three year old stay asleep.

The last time I shopped at Vitamin World I was given a complimentary booklet

on vitamins and supplements. In the relaxation section it reads:

- Melatonin promotes quality sleep. In a placebo-controlled study 22 people

with sleep complaints were randomized to receive Melatonin (3mg) or placebo

for four weeks*. Results showed Melatonin significantly improved subjective

sleep quality, as compared with placebo. The study also showed that Melatonin

can lengthen sleep time and quality of sleep, as well as aid in the support of

restful sleep patterns.

*Campos Fl, et al. Melatonin improves sleep in asthma: a randomized,

double-blind, placebo-controlled study. American Journal Respiratory Critical

Care

Med. 2004 Nov. 1;170(9):947-51.

- St. s' Wort is an excellent supplement for anyone experiencing

occasional anxiety and everyday stress, because it gently supports a calm and

relaxed feeling. In a recent review study, researchers analyzed the results of

16

studies published on St. 's Wort. Based on the results of the review, the

authors concluded that St. 's Wort is an effective herb for promoting a

positive mood and mental well-being.* *

**Linde, K. Large-scale observational studies of hypericum extracts (St.

's Wort) in patients with depressive disorders--a systematic review.

Phytomedicine. 2005 Jan;12(1-2):148-57

- Valerian Root is designed to help, since it supports calm, tranquil rest,

and works in harmony with natural cycle to promote relaxation.*** In a study

for 4 men and 12 women looking to improve the quality of their sleep, the

effects of 300 mg of a Valerian Extract were tested against placebo treatment.

The researchers reported that Valerian had positive effects on sleep parameters

such as decreasing the time it took to fall asleep and increasing the amount

of time that subjects slept. Early research on Valerian found that it

supported sleep quality more effectively than placebo. The researchers

attributed

these benefits in part to the content of sesquiterpenes within Valerian.

***Donath, F., et al. Critical evaluation of the effect of valerian extract

on sleep structure and sleep quality. Pharmaco-psychiatry. 2000.

33(2);Mar:47-53

- Taurine and Glycine help maintain the neurotransmitters in the brain and

produce a calming effect on the body. Info from Kirkman Labs vitamin info

insert.

- Inositol (a B-vitamin) is a viable treatment for OCD. A number of papers

have published on the use of Inositol in the treatment of OCD, depression, and

anxiety (hair pulling, skin picking etc). It seems that Inositol is

converted by the body to a substance that regulates the action of serotonin

within

brain cells. Possible side effects are gas and diarrhea which some people

might have at first but it usually clears up or it doesn't happen at all. It

cannot be taken together with Lithium, as it seems to block its action.

Caffeine

lowers Inositol levels in the body. It should be purchased in powered form,

and taken dissolved in water or fruit juice. It has a sweet taste, and is

chemically related to sugar. It was also reported that taken in combination

with

5-HTP (around 100 mg), which is a breakdown product of the amino acid

L-Tryptophan. The body manufactures serotonin from 5-HTP, and is believed to

raise

serotonin levels in the brain. 5-HTP can cause drowsiness and is usually taken

at bedtime. 5-HTP should never be taken with any prescription antidepressant

or herbal products such as St. 's Wort, as it can cause a very serious

condition called serotonergic syndrome. This info from Inositol and

Trichotillomania by Fred Penzel, Ph.D. Read more about it at

westsuffolkpsych.homestead.com/inositol.html. September, 1996 double-blind

placebo-controlled study on

the use of high doses of inositol was published in the American Journal of

Psychiatry, conducted by Dr. Mendel Fux and colleagues in Israel.

- Bacopa Monniera is an Ayurvedic herb used in India for memory, epilepsy,

and as a mild sedative.

The above isn't advice, it's purpose is just informational. As with all

medications and supplements, consult your physician.

- Balanced Sensory Diet by using calming techniques before bedtime. Bath

followed by, massage with towel or lotion, rocking while reading bedtime story,

and sleeping under a weighted blanket. Other calming activities to help the

over-sensitive child decrease hyper-responsiveness to sensory stimulation,

included but are not limited to: sucking a pacifier, hard candy, frozen fruit

bar, spoonful of peanut butter. Wall push ups using hands, rocking, swinging,

swaying slowly back and forth. Cuddling, back rubbing.

Honestly, I have tried some of these things with my son but what seem to

help him finally sleep well, was maturity and playing hard/working hard. His

little boy metabolism just won't let him stay up late anymore. He also started

taking digestive enzymes about a month ago and pro-biotics whose function is

to break down what is known as protein peptides, which are shorter chains of

amino acids. These peptides, formed when proteins including casein and gluten

are incompletely broken down, are recognized to stimulate opioid receptors in

the body and I have definitely noticed he poops out earlier than he used to

but I'm sure that's just a coincidence. Just this past Saturday night, he was

up late playing with his 3 1/2 year old cousin and he conked out by 10:00

and my nephew was still up and energized and being hyper. I know that doesn't

help you now, but it does get better, never easier, but better.

Bon chance. R.

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for such an indepth answer. I appreciate it!

Re: Re: Melatonin

In a message dated 5/30/2006 10:13:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,

lgrahamgarza@... writes:

I'm looking for a supplement to help my three year old stay asleep.

The last time I shopped at Vitamin World I was given a complimentary booklet

on vitamins and supplements. In the relaxation section it reads:

- Melatonin promotes quality sleep. In a placebo-controlled study 22 people

with sleep complaints were randomized to receive Melatonin (3mg) or placebo

for four weeks*. Results showed Melatonin significantly improved subjective

sleep quality, as compared with placebo. The study also showed that Melatonin

can lengthen sleep time and quality of sleep, as well as aid in the support

of

restful sleep patterns.

*Campos Fl, et al. Melatonin improves sleep in asthma: a randomized,

double-blind, placebo-controlled study. American Journal Respiratory Critical

Care

Med. 2004 Nov. 1;170(9):947-51.

- St. s' Wort is an excellent supplement for anyone experiencing

occasional anxiety and everyday stress, because it gently supports a calm and

relaxed feeling. In a recent review study, researchers analyzed the results of

16

studies published on St. 's Wort. Based on the results of the review, the

authors concluded that St. 's Wort is an effective herb for promoting a

positive mood and mental well-being.* *

**Linde, K. Large-scale observational studies of hypericum extracts (St.

's Wort) in patients with depressive disorders--a systematic review.

Phytomedicine. 2005 Jan;12(1-2):148-57

- Valerian Root is designed to help, since it supports calm, tranquil rest,

and works in harmony with natural cycle to promote relaxation.*** In a study

for 4 men and 12 women looking to improve the quality of their sleep, the

effects of 300 mg of a Valerian Extract were tested against placebo

treatment.

The researchers reported that Valerian had positive effects on sleep

parameters

such as decreasing the time it took to fall asleep and increasing the amount

of time that subjects slept. Early research on Valerian found that it

supported sleep quality more effectively than placebo. The researchers

attributed

these benefits in part to the content of sesquiterpenes within Valerian.

***Donath, F., et al. Critical evaluation of the effect of valerian extract

on sleep structure and sleep quality. Pharmaco-psychiatry. 2000.

33(2);Mar:47-53

- Taurine and Glycine help maintain the neurotransmitters in the brain and

produce a calming effect on the body. Info from Kirkman Labs vitamin info

insert.

- Inositol (a B-vitamin) is a viable treatment for OCD. A number of papers

have published on the use of Inositol in the treatment of OCD, depression, and

anxiety (hair pulling, skin picking etc). It seems that Inositol is

converted by the body to a substance that regulates the action of serotonin

within

brain cells. Possible side effects are gas and diarrhea which some people

might have at first but it usually clears up or it doesn't happen at all. It

cannot be taken together with Lithium, as it seems to block its action.

Caffeine

lowers Inositol levels in the body. It should be purchased in powered form,

and taken dissolved in water or fruit juice. It has a sweet taste, and is

chemically related to sugar. It was also reported that taken in combination

with

5-HTP (around 100 mg), which is a breakdown product of the amino acid

L-Tryptophan. The body manufactures serotonin from 5-HTP, and is believed to

raise

serotonin levels in the brain. 5-HTP can cause drowsiness and is usually

taken

at bedtime. 5-HTP should never be taken with any prescription antidepressant

or herbal products such as St. 's Wort, as it can cause a very serious

condition called serotonergic syndrome. This info from Inositol and

Trichotillomania by Fred Penzel, Ph.D. Read more about it at

westsuffolkpsych.homestead.com/inositol.html. September, 1996 double-blind

placebo-controlled study on

the use of high doses of inositol was published in the American Journal of

Psychiatry, conducted by Dr. Mendel Fux and colleagues in Israel.

- Bacopa Monniera is an Ayurvedic herb used in India for memory, epilepsy,

and as a mild sedative.

The above isn't advice, it's purpose is just informational. As with all

medications and supplements, consult your physician.

- Balanced Sensory Diet by using calming techniques before bedtime. Bath

followed by, massage with towel or lotion, rocking while reading bedtime

story,

and sleeping under a weighted blanket. Other calming activities to help the

over-sensitive child decrease hyper-responsiveness to sensory stimulation,

included but are not limited to: sucking a pacifier, hard candy, frozen fruit

bar, spoonful of peanut butter. Wall push ups using hands, rocking, swinging,

swaying slowly back and forth. Cuddling, back rubbing.

Honestly, I have tried some of these things with my son but what seem to

help him finally sleep well, was maturity and playing hard/working hard. His

little boy metabolism just won't let him stay up late anymore. He also

started

taking digestive enzymes about a month ago and pro-biotics whose function is

to break down what is known as protein peptides, which are shorter chains of

amino acids. These peptides, formed when proteins including casein and gluten

are incompletely broken down, are recognized to stimulate opioid receptors in

the body and I have definitely noticed he poops out earlier than he used to

but I'm sure that's just a coincidence. Just this past Saturday night, he was

up late playing with his 3 1/2 year old cousin and he conked out by 10:00

and my nephew was still up and energized and being hyper. I know that doesn't

help you now, but it does get better, never easier, but better.

Bon chance. R.

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for such an indepth answer. I appreciate it!

Re: Re: Melatonin

In a message dated 5/30/2006 10:13:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,

lgrahamgarza@... writes:

I'm looking for a supplement to help my three year old stay asleep.

The last time I shopped at Vitamin World I was given a complimentary booklet

on vitamins and supplements. In the relaxation section it reads:

- Melatonin promotes quality sleep. In a placebo-controlled study 22 people

with sleep complaints were randomized to receive Melatonin (3mg) or placebo

for four weeks*. Results showed Melatonin significantly improved subjective

sleep quality, as compared with placebo. The study also showed that Melatonin

can lengthen sleep time and quality of sleep, as well as aid in the support

of

restful sleep patterns.

*Campos Fl, et al. Melatonin improves sleep in asthma: a randomized,

double-blind, placebo-controlled study. American Journal Respiratory Critical

Care

Med. 2004 Nov. 1;170(9):947-51.

- St. s' Wort is an excellent supplement for anyone experiencing

occasional anxiety and everyday stress, because it gently supports a calm and

relaxed feeling. In a recent review study, researchers analyzed the results of

16

studies published on St. 's Wort. Based on the results of the review, the

authors concluded that St. 's Wort is an effective herb for promoting a

positive mood and mental well-being.* *

**Linde, K. Large-scale observational studies of hypericum extracts (St.

's Wort) in patients with depressive disorders--a systematic review.

Phytomedicine. 2005 Jan;12(1-2):148-57

- Valerian Root is designed to help, since it supports calm, tranquil rest,

and works in harmony with natural cycle to promote relaxation.*** In a study

for 4 men and 12 women looking to improve the quality of their sleep, the

effects of 300 mg of a Valerian Extract were tested against placebo

treatment.

The researchers reported that Valerian had positive effects on sleep

parameters

such as decreasing the time it took to fall asleep and increasing the amount

of time that subjects slept. Early research on Valerian found that it

supported sleep quality more effectively than placebo. The researchers

attributed

these benefits in part to the content of sesquiterpenes within Valerian.

***Donath, F., et al. Critical evaluation of the effect of valerian extract

on sleep structure and sleep quality. Pharmaco-psychiatry. 2000.

33(2);Mar:47-53

- Taurine and Glycine help maintain the neurotransmitters in the brain and

produce a calming effect on the body. Info from Kirkman Labs vitamin info

insert.

- Inositol (a B-vitamin) is a viable treatment for OCD. A number of papers

have published on the use of Inositol in the treatment of OCD, depression, and

anxiety (hair pulling, skin picking etc). It seems that Inositol is

converted by the body to a substance that regulates the action of serotonin

within

brain cells. Possible side effects are gas and diarrhea which some people

might have at first but it usually clears up or it doesn't happen at all. It

cannot be taken together with Lithium, as it seems to block its action.

Caffeine

lowers Inositol levels in the body. It should be purchased in powered form,

and taken dissolved in water or fruit juice. It has a sweet taste, and is

chemically related to sugar. It was also reported that taken in combination

with

5-HTP (around 100 mg), which is a breakdown product of the amino acid

L-Tryptophan. The body manufactures serotonin from 5-HTP, and is believed to

raise

serotonin levels in the brain. 5-HTP can cause drowsiness and is usually

taken

at bedtime. 5-HTP should never be taken with any prescription antidepressant

or herbal products such as St. 's Wort, as it can cause a very serious

condition called serotonergic syndrome. This info from Inositol and

Trichotillomania by Fred Penzel, Ph.D. Read more about it at

westsuffolkpsych.homestead.com/inositol.html. September, 1996 double-blind

placebo-controlled study on

the use of high doses of inositol was published in the American Journal of

Psychiatry, conducted by Dr. Mendel Fux and colleagues in Israel.

- Bacopa Monniera is an Ayurvedic herb used in India for memory, epilepsy,

and as a mild sedative.

The above isn't advice, it's purpose is just informational. As with all

medications and supplements, consult your physician.

- Balanced Sensory Diet by using calming techniques before bedtime. Bath

followed by, massage with towel or lotion, rocking while reading bedtime

story,

and sleeping under a weighted blanket. Other calming activities to help the

over-sensitive child decrease hyper-responsiveness to sensory stimulation,

included but are not limited to: sucking a pacifier, hard candy, frozen fruit

bar, spoonful of peanut butter. Wall push ups using hands, rocking, swinging,

swaying slowly back and forth. Cuddling, back rubbing.

Honestly, I have tried some of these things with my son but what seem to

help him finally sleep well, was maturity and playing hard/working hard. His

little boy metabolism just won't let him stay up late anymore. He also

started

taking digestive enzymes about a month ago and pro-biotics whose function is

to break down what is known as protein peptides, which are shorter chains of

amino acids. These peptides, formed when proteins including casein and gluten

are incompletely broken down, are recognized to stimulate opioid receptors in

the body and I have definitely noticed he poops out earlier than he used to

but I'm sure that's just a coincidence. Just this past Saturday night, he was

up late playing with his 3 1/2 year old cousin and he conked out by 10:00

and my nephew was still up and energized and being hyper. I know that doesn't

help you now, but it does get better, never easier, but better.

Bon chance. R.

[Guest guest]

I'm impressed with all of you who can get so many supplements into your kids!

Mine are the food police- they could work for the queen as royal food tasters!

One can smell anything no matter how i hide it and the other can feel any

unusual texture at all. It's lots of fun at my house trying to get everything

they need into them. I am desperate to get more magnesium in them -I've tried

lots of products. What's everybody's favorite form of this?

Re: Melatonin

Wow! Those side effects are enough to scare me away.....except that my 3

kids and I have been using it for the past 5 months with absolutely no

side

effects. In fact, we all wake up feeling refreshed and ready to face the

day. There has been no grogginess or hang over effect, the black circles

under the kids eyes are gone, the tiredness and crankiness is all gone, no

more battles at bed time, and I don't have to drag them out of bed in the

mornings. My 7 yr olds triplets take 1 mg about 30 minutes before bedtime

and they, all 3, kiss us goodnight, go get in bed, and go directly to

sleep.

They seldom even get up for one last drink of water. Our doctors (Dr.

and Dr. Rao) both said that it won't hurt them, there are no long

term effects or dangers of addiction, and that we should keep the dosage

to

3 mg or less per day. 1mg seems to do the trick for us.

Melatonin is something that the body produces at night, when it gets dark,

to make you sleepy. Many people that have a hard time falling asleep

(like

me) are actually low in melatonin.

I buy Natrol, or NOW brands. They are both GFCF. and are less than $10

per

bottle.

Good luck!

in Cedar Park

Texas Autism Advocacy

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

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Calendar of Events

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

[Guest guest]

I'm impressed with all of you who can get so many supplements into your kids!

Mine are the food police- they could work for the queen as royal food tasters!

One can smell anything no matter how i hide it and the other can feel any

unusual texture at all. It's lots of fun at my house trying to get everything

they need into them. I am desperate to get more magnesium in them -I've tried

lots of products. What's everybody's favorite form of this?

Re: Melatonin

Wow! Those side effects are enough to scare me away.....except that my 3

kids and I have been using it for the past 5 months with absolutely no

side

effects. In fact, we all wake up feeling refreshed and ready to face the

day. There has been no grogginess or hang over effect, the black circles

under the kids eyes are gone, the tiredness and crankiness is all gone, no

more battles at bed time, and I don't have to drag them out of bed in the

mornings. My 7 yr olds triplets take 1 mg about 30 minutes before bedtime

and they, all 3, kiss us goodnight, go get in bed, and go directly to

sleep.

They seldom even get up for one last drink of water. Our doctors (Dr.

and Dr. Rao) both said that it won't hurt them, there are no long

term effects or dangers of addiction, and that we should keep the dosage

to

3 mg or less per day. 1mg seems to do the trick for us.

Melatonin is something that the body produces at night, when it gets dark,

to make you sleepy. Many people that have a hard time falling asleep

(like

me) are actually low in melatonin.

I buy Natrol, or NOW brands. They are both GFCF. and are less than $10

per

bottle.

Good luck!

in Cedar Park

Texas Autism Advocacy

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

Texas Disability Network

Calendar of Events

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

[Guest guest]

You would do yourself a huge favor by teaching your children to swallow

supplements. I

taught mine at 3 years and 8 months. It took him about 2 weeks, and since

then, he'll take just about

any combination without protest. Depending on his regimine (which changes

about every

6 weeks to 3 months) he could be taking up to 12 pills with his breakfast.

Start with just one supplement--preferrably a small gelcap. Put it in the

child's mouth.

Have him look at his bellybutton. (This makes the pill go to the back of

his throat.)

Then quickly have him look up and give him a huge gulp of his FAVORITE drink

(that

you'll let him have)--and huge gulp here is like half of a sippy cup. If he

gets it down, give him a BIG

reinforcer--like his favorite video or what ever works for him. This

usually gets

the pill down. Just do one pill until he learns to swallow, then you can

gradually add

more.

Good luck!!!!

S.

Re: Re: Melatonin

I'm impressed with all of you who can get so many supplements into your

kids! Mine are the food police- they could work for the queen as royal food

tasters! One can smell anything no matter how i hide it and the other can

feel any unusual texture at all. It's lots of fun at my house trying to get

everything they need into them. I am desperate to get more magnesium in

them -I've tried lots of products. What's everybody's favorite form of

this?

Re: Melatonin

Wow! Those side effects are enough to scare me away.....except that my

3

kids and I have been using it for the past 5 months with absolutely no

side

effects. In fact, we all wake up feeling refreshed and ready to face

the

day. There has been no grogginess or hang over effect, the black

circles

under the kids eyes are gone, the tiredness and crankiness is all gone,

no

more battles at bed time, and I don't have to drag them out of bed in

the

mornings. My 7 yr olds triplets take 1 mg about 30 minutes before

bedtime

and they, all 3, kiss us goodnight, go get in bed, and go directly to

sleep.

They seldom even get up for one last drink of water. Our doctors (Dr.

and Dr. Rao) both said that it won't hurt them, there are no

long

term effects or dangers of addiction, and that we should keep the

dosage

to

3 mg or less per day. 1mg seems to do the trick for us.

Melatonin is something that the body produces at night, when it gets

dark,

to make you sleepy. Many people that have a hard time falling asleep

(like

me) are actually low in melatonin.

I buy Natrol, or NOW brands. They are both GFCF. and are less than $10

per

bottle.

Good luck!

in Cedar Park

Texas Autism Advocacy

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

Texas Disability Network

Calendar of Events

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

[Guest guest]

You would do yourself a huge favor by teaching your children to swallow

supplements. I

taught mine at 3 years and 8 months. It took him about 2 weeks, and since

then, he'll take just about

any combination without protest. Depending on his regimine (which changes

about every

6 weeks to 3 months) he could be taking up to 12 pills with his breakfast.

Start with just one supplement--preferrably a small gelcap. Put it in the

child's mouth.

Have him look at his bellybutton. (This makes the pill go to the back of

his throat.)

Then quickly have him look up and give him a huge gulp of his FAVORITE drink

(that

you'll let him have)--and huge gulp here is like half of a sippy cup. If he

gets it down, give him a BIG

reinforcer--like his favorite video or what ever works for him. This

usually gets

the pill down. Just do one pill until he learns to swallow, then you can

gradually add

more.

Good luck!!!!

S.

Re: Re: Melatonin

I'm impressed with all of you who can get so many supplements into your

kids! Mine are the food police- they could work for the queen as royal food

tasters! One can smell anything no matter how i hide it and the other can

feel any unusual texture at all. It's lots of fun at my house trying to get

everything they need into them. I am desperate to get more magnesium in

them -I've tried lots of products. What's everybody's favorite form of

this?

Re: Melatonin

Wow! Those side effects are enough to scare me away.....except that my

3

kids and I have been using it for the past 5 months with absolutely no

side

effects. In fact, we all wake up feeling refreshed and ready to face

the

day. There has been no grogginess or hang over effect, the black

circles

under the kids eyes are gone, the tiredness and crankiness is all gone,

no

more battles at bed time, and I don't have to drag them out of bed in

the

mornings. My 7 yr olds triplets take 1 mg about 30 minutes before

bedtime

and they, all 3, kiss us goodnight, go get in bed, and go directly to

sleep.

They seldom even get up for one last drink of water. Our doctors (Dr.

and Dr. Rao) both said that it won't hurt them, there are no

long

term effects or dangers of addiction, and that we should keep the

dosage

to

3 mg or less per day. 1mg seems to do the trick for us.

Melatonin is something that the body produces at night, when it gets

dark,

to make you sleepy. Many people that have a hard time falling asleep

(like

me) are actually low in melatonin.

I buy Natrol, or NOW brands. They are both GFCF. and are less than $10

per

bottle.

Good luck!

in Cedar Park

Texas Autism Advocacy

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

Texas Disability Network

Calendar of Events

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

[Guest guest]

mine is typically the same, he throws up if I bring a green pepper near his

nose,

just to show it to him. Well when I started his treatment three years and

half ago, I was

hiding everything in his feeding bottle, and while deeply sleeping after

taking the melatonin

chewable tablet 1 mg (I was even giving him half tablet at that time), I would

put

the bottle in his mouth and he would start taking it without waking up. I was

putting in it babies soy milk, strawberry syrup, rice powder, maple syrup

then empty

the needed supplements or powders in it. I was making it as the smallest

quantity

as possible so that he would drink it all. I was preparing two bottles : one

late at night, one

in the morning. I was also using the fan to make noise as it was helping in

keeping

him asleep.

Another method was working with him, two pancakes filled with chocolate milk

free

powder mixed with some water and put the supplement powder in the middle.

He was accepting to take it.

Around the age of four, these methods stopped working, and I was living in a

circus,

trying to make him take any kind of supplement. I started then teaching him

how

to swallow capsules. Hold his head from behind as if I'm carrying a baby and

make

someone else help me in holding his hands, not his arms. Thanks God, mine has

a big throat, it's something that I found out when I once looked into my

youngest

son 's throat and couldn't see any whole.(he's four now).

I never put my finger in his throat or else I'll make him throw up, I throw

the capsule

very quickly in his throat while holding his head in my arms from the back,

then make him drink his favorite sprite, and so on one by one, two or three

capsules at a time. Then, before giving him his next meal, I do the same -

always before meals, to use meals as reinforcers and also so that he doesn't

throw up. At first, he started biting me so hard, that I was screaming from

all my heart. I never stopped praying and trying, Beleive me, God hear our

prayers.

Now, after two years and half, I sometimes have to run after him, when he's

playing in the backyard. (I now only give him water because of yeast issue

and acids). I don't need the help of anyone to hold his hands anymore. We count

the capsules together, two, one, zero, no more. I give reinforcers. Thanks

God, even the Valtrex caplet, he accepts to drink it.

What I'm really can't understand why melatonin capsules don't work with him,

and the melatonin chewable tablets do. When I was giving melatonin capsules

for

some time, I even reached three capsules 1 mg each, but no way. Now only even

half of melatonin chewable table can work with him. I sometimes stop the

melatonin for two days during the week, so that he doesn't get used to it, then

it would stop

making him sleep and he would need a higher dosage.

Kirkmanlabs have a list of helpful ways to hide their products:

put in to peanut, cashew or almond butter

pear juice

juicy juice

Homemade posicles - good for the SNT powder or liquid

rice cripsy treats - individual small round balls with dose inside

sprinkle the powders on a pancake before flipping it over

mix with honey or jelly

make a fruit smoothly

make a protein drink

put in ketchup and let them drag their french fries through it

put the dose in scrambled eggs (after they have been cooked)

put dose in spaghetti sauce (after it has been cooked)

V8 Splash

Hershey Syrup

Box Drinks - when children are asleep take box drink and add liquid to it, put

into refrigerator till morning. Next day take out put straw in and hand to

child.

Hot cooa

Orange |Juice-but when using powder let the powder stay in drink for 10

minutes to it disssolves better.

suspension syrup that you can purchase at the pharmacy.

Try our Flavoring syrup's that come in Wild cherry, Strawberry and Maple.

Yogurt

Pudding

Fruit Sorbet

Coromega is a good product that the other vitamins can be mixed in.

Calcium is great! you can cook with it, it can handle the heat. Put it in

meatloaf, cookies, pancakes, muffins anything that you bake.

Add kirkman's Mapple syrup to carbonated water and it tastes just like cream

soda...regular not diet.

Add Tumeric for yellow coloring for GF/CF " mac and cheese " with Darifree

Tumeric does not have a lot of flavor.

I hope this might help.

Fayrouz

" Little girl, I say to you, arise. " (Mark 5:41)

" Dr. Graham-Garza " wrote:

I'm impressed with all of you who can get so many supplements into your kids!

Mine are the food police- they could work for the queen as royal food tasters!

One can smell anything no matter how i hide it and the other can feel any

unusual texture at all. It's lots of fun at my house trying to get everything

they need into them. I am desperate to get more magnesium in them -I've tried

lots of products. What's everybody's favorite form of this?

Re: Melatonin

Wow! Those side effects are enough to scare me away.....except that my 3

kids and I have been using it for the past 5 months with absolutely no

side

effects. In fact, we all wake up feeling refreshed and ready to face the

day. There has been no grogginess or hang over effect, the black circles

under the kids eyes are gone, the tiredness and crankiness is all gone, no

more battles at bed time, and I don't have to drag them out of bed in the

mornings. My 7 yr olds triplets take 1 mg about 30 minutes before bedtime

and they, all 3, kiss us goodnight, go get in bed, and go directly to

sleep.

They seldom even get up for one last drink of water. Our doctors (Dr.

and Dr. Rao) both said that it won't hurt them, there are no long

term effects or dangers of addiction, and that we should keep the dosage

to

3 mg or less per day. 1mg seems to do the trick for us.

Melatonin is something that the body produces at night, when it gets dark,

to make you sleepy. Many people that have a hard time falling asleep

(like

me) are actually low in melatonin.

I buy Natrol, or NOW brands. They are both GFCF. and are less than $10

per

bottle.

Good luck!

in Cedar Park

Texas Autism Advocacy

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

Texas Disability Network

Calendar of Events

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

[Guest guest]

I have found that one of my boys does very well on the melatonin

that contains nothing but melatonin. It has no flavor and works very

well on him. My older son needs the melatonin with magnesium. I have

been told that the magnesium helps the melatonin be absorbed. The

one without doesn't work on him at all. I jump in here mid sting on

this topic so I hope this helps.

> I use a loud fan in his bedroom for blank noise. It seems to

help. Also,

> if he takes a nap during the day, he usually does not sleep well

at night.

> An Epsom salt bath usually helps as well.

>

>

>

>

> Re: Melatonin

>

>

> Wow! Those side effects are enough to scare me

away.....except that my 3

> kids and I have been using it for the past 5 months with

absolutely no

> side

> effects. In fact, we all wake up feeling refreshed and ready

to face the

> day. There has been no grogginess or hang over effect, the

black circles

> under the kids eyes are gone, the tiredness and crankiness is

all gone, no

> more battles at bed time, and I don't have to drag them out of

bed in the

> mornings. My 7 yr olds triplets take 1 mg about 30 minutes

before bedtime

> and they, all 3, kiss us goodnight, go get in bed, and go

directly to

> sleep.

> They seldom even get up for one last drink of water. Our

doctors (Dr.

> and Dr. Rao) both said that it won't hurt them, there

are no long

> term effects or dangers of addiction, and that we should keep

the dosage

> to

> 3 mg or less per day. 1mg seems to do the trick for us.

>

> Melatonin is something that the body produces at night, when

it gets dark,

> to make you sleepy. Many people that have a hard time falling

asleep

> (like

> me) are actually low in melatonin.

>

> I buy Natrol, or NOW brands. They are both GFCF. and are

less than $10

> per

> bottle.

>

> Good luck!

>

> in Cedar Park

>

>

>

> Texas Autism Advocacy

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

> Texas Disability Network

> Calendar of Events

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have found that one of my boys does very well on the melatonin

that contains nothing but melatonin. It has no flavor and works very

well on him. My older son needs the melatonin with magnesium. I have

been told that the magnesium helps the melatonin be absorbed. The

one without doesn't work on him at all. I jump in here mid sting on

this topic so I hope this helps.

> I use a loud fan in his bedroom for blank noise. It seems to

help. Also,

> if he takes a nap during the day, he usually does not sleep well

at night.

> An Epsom salt bath usually helps as well.

>

>

>

>

> Re: Melatonin

>

>

> Wow! Those side effects are enough to scare me

away.....except that my 3

> kids and I have been using it for the past 5 months with

absolutely no

> side

> effects. In fact, we all wake up feeling refreshed and ready

to face the

> day. There has been no grogginess or hang over effect, the

black circles

> under the kids eyes are gone, the tiredness and crankiness is

all gone, no

> more battles at bed time, and I don't have to drag them out of

bed in the

> mornings. My 7 yr olds triplets take 1 mg about 30 minutes

before bedtime

> and they, all 3, kiss us goodnight, go get in bed, and go

directly to

> sleep.

> They seldom even get up for one last drink of water. Our

doctors (Dr.

> and Dr. Rao) both said that it won't hurt them, there

are no long

> term effects or dangers of addiction, and that we should keep

the dosage

> to

> 3 mg or less per day. 1mg seems to do the trick for us.

>

> Melatonin is something that the body produces at night, when

it gets dark,

> to make you sleepy. Many people that have a hard time falling

asleep

> (like

> me) are actually low in melatonin.

>

> I buy Natrol, or NOW brands. They are both GFCF. and are

less than $10

> per

> bottle.

>

> Good luck!

>

> in Cedar Park

>

>

>

> Texas Autism Advocacy

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

> Texas Disability Network

> Calendar of Events

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

where did you get the melatonin with magnesium? thanks, lisa

Re: Melatonin

>

>

> Wow! Those side effects are enough to scare me

away.....except that my 3

> kids and I have been using it for the past 5 months with

absolutely no

> side

> effects. In fact, we all wake up feeling refreshed and ready

to face the

> day. There has been no grogginess or hang over effect, the

black circles

> under the kids eyes are gone, the tiredness and crankiness is

all gone, no

> more battles at bed time, and I don't have to drag them out of

bed in the

> mornings. My 7 yr olds triplets take 1 mg about 30 minutes

before bedtime

> and they, all 3, kiss us goodnight, go get in bed, and go

directly to

> sleep.

> They seldom even get up for one last drink of water. Our

doctors (Dr.

> and Dr. Rao) both said that it won't hurt them, there

are no long

> term effects or dangers of addiction, and that we should keep

the dosage

> to

> 3 mg or less per day. 1mg seems to do the trick for us.

>

> Melatonin is something that the body produces at night, when

it gets dark,

> to make you sleepy. Many people that have a hard time falling

asleep

> (like

> me) are actually low in melatonin.

>

> I buy Natrol, or NOW brands. They are both GFCF. and are

less than $10

> per

> bottle.

>

> Good luck!

>

> in Cedar Park

>

>

>

> Texas Autism Advocacy

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

> Texas Disability Network

> Calendar of Events

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

>

>

>