Re: question on antiviral therapy

[Guest guest]

> Interesting. Thanks for the info.

> Your son responded with or without a regression?

> What anti-virals is he on now or is he still on them?

> I have begun (this is day 2) with acyclovir and will try rotating

> with OLE. Some tantruming last night, but mostly good speech. It is

> hard to say by now what is working but he seems to be improving

with

> less stimming and more creative speech. Been on Nystatin and now on

> Diflucan. Supplements and diet as well as DMSA de-toxing.

> D.

To answer your questions, please see below:

This was on my first post:

" I introduced OLE and Virastop and it was a night and day

difference. I credit these for helping him to finally become fully

verbal and understandable to everyone else. In fact, I did it for 8-9

months a year and a half ago and I am waiting to re-start in about 1

month to see if it aids in clearing up some residual issues. "

Yes, there were behaviors, pretty intolerable ones with lots of

aggresion, stimming and super-duper hyperactivity and sensory issues

with Valtrex (and believe me I AM PATIENT!) and then when I

eventually after 8-9 months of Valtrex switched to OLE and Virastop,

there were behaviors, but they were more tolerable this time around.

I believe I started seeing results (in my son's case) within 6-8

weeks of starting OLE and then adding Virastop (I did this on my own

but contacted my DAN dr. to fill him in, eventually). I had a gut

feeling about this, was determined and followed it. I am glad I did.

This was in conjunction with ABA Verbal Behavior type program I had

been running for years as well as my determination to get this child

to speak since I encouraged and always saw a strong desire from his

part. He was already reading (dx: Hyperlexic, too) at 2.5 years old,

which can be incredible but at the same time complicated as well. I

figured, if he can read, he must be able to speak at some point...

Again, this is my own personal experience, so you have to see what

you can do in all areas to assist your child.

[Guest guest]

Wow! Thank you. I bought some OLE and I am prepared to use it

whether by pulsing or in addition to. I just want to give acyclovir

(I thought they were the same...), some time, and so far on day 2,

he seems to be responding well. There is a fever and some coughing.

There is some emotional flare-ups but they are manageable. There has

been a decrease in stimming and no hand flapping since I switched

from Nystatin to Diflucan, and that remains the same so far. Maybe

it is too soon to tell. Will continue to report status.

Thanks so much for sharing your experience.

D.

>

>

> > Interesting. Thanks for the info.

> > Your son responded with or without a regression?

> > What anti-virals is he on now or is he still on them?

> > I have begun (this is day 2) with acyclovir and will try

rotating

> > with OLE. Some tantruming last night, but mostly good speech. It

is

> > hard to say by now what is working but he seems to be improving

> with

> > less stimming and more creative speech. Been on Nystatin and now

on

> > Diflucan. Supplements and diet as well as DMSA de-toxing.

> > D.

>

> To answer your questions, please see below:

>

> This was on my first post:

> " I introduced OLE and Virastop and it was a night and day

> difference. I credit these for helping him to finally become fully

> verbal and understandable to everyone else. In fact, I did it for

8-9

> months a year and a half ago and I am waiting to re-start in about

1

> month to see if it aids in clearing up some residual issues. "

>

> Yes, there were behaviors, pretty intolerable ones with lots of

> aggresion, stimming and super-duper hyperactivity and sensory

issues

> with Valtrex (and believe me I AM PATIENT!) and then when I

> eventually after 8-9 months of Valtrex switched to OLE and

Virastop,

> there were behaviors, but they were more tolerable this time

around.

> I believe I started seeing results (in my son's case) within 6-8

> weeks of starting OLE and then adding Virastop (I did this on my

own

> but contacted my DAN dr. to fill him in, eventually). I had a gut

> feeling about this, was determined and followed it. I am glad I

did.

> This was in conjunction with ABA Verbal Behavior type program I

had

> been running for years as well as my determination to get this

child

> to speak since I encouraged and always saw a strong desire from

his

> part. He was already reading (dx: Hyperlexic, too) at 2.5 years

old,

> which can be incredible but at the same time complicated as well.

I

> figured, if he can read, he must be able to speak at some point...

> Again, this is my own personal experience, so you have to see what

> you can do in all areas to assist your child.

>

[Guest guest]

Wow! Thank you. I bought some OLE and I am prepared to use it

whether by pulsing or in addition to. I just want to give acyclovir

(I thought they were the same...), some time, and so far on day 2,

he seems to be responding well. There is a fever and some coughing.

There is some emotional flare-ups but they are manageable. There has

been a decrease in stimming and no hand flapping since I switched

from Nystatin to Diflucan, and that remains the same so far. Maybe

it is too soon to tell. Will continue to report status.

Thanks so much for sharing your experience.

D.

>

>

> > Interesting. Thanks for the info.

> > Your son responded with or without a regression?

> > What anti-virals is he on now or is he still on them?

> > I have begun (this is day 2) with acyclovir and will try

rotating

> > with OLE. Some tantruming last night, but mostly good speech. It

is

> > hard to say by now what is working but he seems to be improving

> with

> > less stimming and more creative speech. Been on Nystatin and now

on

> > Diflucan. Supplements and diet as well as DMSA de-toxing.

> > D.

>

> To answer your questions, please see below:

>

> This was on my first post:

> " I introduced OLE and Virastop and it was a night and day

> difference. I credit these for helping him to finally become fully

> verbal and understandable to everyone else. In fact, I did it for

8-9

> months a year and a half ago and I am waiting to re-start in about

1

> month to see if it aids in clearing up some residual issues. "

>

> Yes, there were behaviors, pretty intolerable ones with lots of

> aggresion, stimming and super-duper hyperactivity and sensory

issues

> with Valtrex (and believe me I AM PATIENT!) and then when I

> eventually after 8-9 months of Valtrex switched to OLE and

Virastop,

> there were behaviors, but they were more tolerable this time

around.

> I believe I started seeing results (in my son's case) within 6-8

> weeks of starting OLE and then adding Virastop (I did this on my

own

> but contacted my DAN dr. to fill him in, eventually). I had a gut

> feeling about this, was determined and followed it. I am glad I

did.

> This was in conjunction with ABA Verbal Behavior type program I

had

> been running for years as well as my determination to get this

child

> to speak since I encouraged and always saw a strong desire from

his

> part. He was already reading (dx: Hyperlexic, too) at 2.5 years

old,

> which can be incredible but at the same time complicated as well.

I

> figured, if he can read, he must be able to speak at some point...

> Again, this is my own personal experience, so you have to see what

> you can do in all areas to assist your child.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Cheryl for sharing all of that with us. I made a note on

those online pharmacies.

D.

> > >

> > > > I am wondering if the antiviral approach is mostly for

vaccinated

> > > > children. When a child is given a shot with both a virus and

a

> > toxin

> > > > like mercury, for example. And that may be behind the trigger

> > for some

> > > > children....but my son never got a single vaccine or

anti-

> > > > biotic. Is he not a potential responder to Valtrex, then?

> > > > Danitza,

> > > > Kauai,Hawaii

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Cheryl for sharing all of that with us. I made a note on

those online pharmacies.

D.

> > >

> > > > I am wondering if the antiviral approach is mostly for

vaccinated

> > > > children. When a child is given a shot with both a virus and

a

> > toxin

> > > > like mercury, for example. And that may be behind the trigger

> > for some

> > > > children....but my son never got a single vaccine or

anti-

> > > > biotic. Is he not a potential responder to Valtrex, then?

> > > > Danitza,

> > > > Kauai,Hawaii

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It sounds like your daughter may have a mercury

toxicity problem with the rhogam, amalgams and vaccine

exposure. Have you run the French Labs urinary

porphyrins profile analysis to see how much mercury,

lead and other metls are inside of her? you may want

to consider chelation therapy.

--- and Deanna McGee

wrote:

> She is 5yo and did not regress significantly. She

> was definitely different from her 17mo sister from

> birth. She did have a reaction to the MMR and I had

> the RhoGAM shot and dental amalgams. She was

> diagnosed at 18 months PDD and at 3yo autism. We

> are still trying to find her recovery path. I know

> I will find it!

>

> We just started the MB-12 shots with no avail so

> far. We are 8 shots into it.

> Has anyone had success after this long? I am an

> immediate gratification kind of person. Not the

> best personality trait for mother's like us.

> After reading about Mr. Kurtz, I will ask about the

> nasal spray from my DAN! doc.

> D

>

>

> Re: question on antiviral

> therapy

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > My son has no vaccinations whatsoever, and has

> had very little

> > antibiotic use, but really benefitted from

> antiviral therapy.

> Valtrex

> > helped but it was quite a difficult challenge

> with behaviors,

> etc.

> > Then after doing that twice and eventually not

> getting the

> desired

> > results, I introduced OLE and Virastop and it

> was a night and

> day

> > difference. I credit these for helping him to

> finally become

> fully

> > verbal and understandable to everyone else. In

> fact, I did it

> for 8-9

> > months a year and a half ago and I am waiting to

> re-start in

> about 1

> > month to see if it aids in clearing up some

> residual issues.

> Since

> > every child's issues may be different, I think

> it's worth a try.

> Good

> > Luck!

> >

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

It sounds like your daughter may have a mercury

toxicity problem with the rhogam, amalgams and vaccine

exposure. Have you run the French Labs urinary

porphyrins profile analysis to see how much mercury,

lead and other metls are inside of her? you may want

to consider chelation therapy.

--- and Deanna McGee

wrote:

> She is 5yo and did not regress significantly. She

> was definitely different from her 17mo sister from

> birth. She did have a reaction to the MMR and I had

> the RhoGAM shot and dental amalgams. She was

> diagnosed at 18 months PDD and at 3yo autism. We

> are still trying to find her recovery path. I know

> I will find it!

>

> We just started the MB-12 shots with no avail so

> far. We are 8 shots into it.

> Has anyone had success after this long? I am an

> immediate gratification kind of person. Not the

> best personality trait for mother's like us.

> After reading about Mr. Kurtz, I will ask about the

> nasal spray from my DAN! doc.

> D

>

>

> Re: question on antiviral

> therapy

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > My son has no vaccinations whatsoever, and has

> had very little

> > antibiotic use, but really benefitted from

> antiviral therapy.

> Valtrex

> > helped but it was quite a difficult challenge

> with behaviors,

> etc.

> > Then after doing that twice and eventually not

> getting the

> desired

> > results, I introduced OLE and Virastop and it

> was a night and

> day

> > difference. I credit these for helping him to

> finally become

> fully

> > verbal and understandable to everyone else. In

> fact, I did it

> for 8-9

> > months a year and a half ago and I am waiting to

> re-start in

> about 1

> > month to see if it aids in clearing up some

> residual issues.

> Since

> > every child's issues may be different, I think

> it's worth a try.

> Good

> > Luck!

> >

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

We did the French Labs test and our mercury was 4x's the max reference amount. All other metals were ok. We are hoping to chelate once we get her gut healthy. Thank you!

D

Re: question on antiviral> therapy> > > > > > Hi,> > > > My son has no vaccinations whatsoever, and has> had very little > > antibiotic use, but really benefitted from> antiviral therapy. > Valtrex > > helped but it was quite a difficult challenge> with behaviors, > etc. > > Then after doing that twice and eventually not> getting the > desired > > results, I introduced OLE and Virastop and it> was a night and > day > > difference. I credit these for helping him to> finally become > fully > > verbal and understandable to everyone else. In> fact, I did it > for 8-9 > > months a year and a half ago and I am waiting to> re-start in > about 1 > > month to see if it aids in clearing up some> residual issues. > Since > > every child's issues may be different, I think> it's worth a try. > Good > > Luck!> >> > > > __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi D.,

I know it's been posted before, but where exactly is the Frech lab, and how do you contact them?

Thank you!

Patty

To: mb12 valtrex From: jasonmcgee@...Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:50:48 -0600Subject: Re: Re: question on antiviral therapy

We did the French Labs test and our mercury was 4x's the max reference amount. All other metals were ok. We are hoping to chelate once we get her gut healthy. Thank you!

D

Re: question on antiviral> therapy> > > > > > Hi,> > > > My son has no vaccinations whatsoever, and has> had very little > > antibiotic use, but really benefitted from> antiviral therapy. > Valtrex > > helped but it was quite a difficult challenge> with behaviors, > etc. > > Then after doing that twice and eventually not> getting the > desired > > results, I introduced OLE and Virastop and it> was a night and > day > > difference. I credit these for helping him to> finally become > fully > > verbal and understandable to everyone else. In> fact, I did it > for 8-9 > > months a year and a half ago and I am waiting to> re-start in > about 1 > > month to see if it aids in clearing up some> residual issues. > Since > > every child's issues may be different, I think> it's worth a try. > Good > > Luck!> >> > > > __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Mine was done through the DAN! doc but on the results it has email: contact@...

If you google or yahoo LABORATOIRE PHILIPPE AUGUSTE you should see the english pages web page which has an order icon.

Deanna

Re: question on antiviral> therapy> > > > > > Hi,> > > > My son has no vaccinations whatsoever, and has> had very little > > antibiotic use, but really benefitted from> antiviral therapy. > Valtrex > > helped but it was quite a difficult challenge> with behaviors, > etc. > > Then after doing that twice and eventually not> getting the > desired > > results, I introduced OLE and Virastop and it> was a night and > day > > difference. I credit these for helping him to> finally become > fully > > verbal and understandable to everyone else. In> fact, I did it > for 8-9 > > months a year and a half ago and I am waiting to> re-start in > about 1 > > month to see if it aids in clearing up some> residual issues. > Since > > every child's issues may be different, I think> it's worth a try. > Good > > Luck!> >> > > > __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

You will not like this post...I did not like it when I got this advice - love those immediate results too...Get Breaking the Vicious Cycle, go SCD, minus casein ASAP...you may see BIG gains, we did, but our guy is 2 and 2 mo...at 5 it could take a bit longer, but you will know if this is the way you need to go...post this diet, the nasal spray was helpful...if her gut is badly injured all the supplements and other goodies will go the way of the food that you try to feed her - it will do nothing much or worse it will actually harm despite your good intentions. Actually get and read the book...and then hook up with others who are on that path. YOu are on a site created by a man who as much as he loves

biomed tells people DO THAT DIET...and for good reason. It sets the stage for everything else to work and it makes it VERY difficult for anything else to work if you are nont doing it...that is our experience....gains on the diet within 9 days!.. At two weeks began playing with sister and trying with kids again...blowing raspberries and copying the baby's moves, on purpose as if at play with her...stomping to music to the beat and laughing.....95% eye contact back, joint referencing startingup again, MUCH happier, all opening and closing of doors in a stimmy way - GONE. We have yeast issues left over from our GFCF experiment - bad idea as we did way too many sugars starches and carbs to compensate for things removed...our son's response to the diet has been so great that we drove him over to meet Stan to get Stan's advice about where to go from here....we would not have tried the diet if we had not read his opinions about it. Thank God

we dove in.....begin there. It does no harm , it may transform her and guide you in how you can completely recover her...Good Luck. Di

Re: question on antiviral> therapy> > > > > >

Hi,> > > > My son has no vaccinations whatsoever, and has> had very little > > antibiotic use, but really benefitted from> antiviral therapy. > Valtrex > > helped but it was quite a difficult challenge> with behaviors, > etc. > > Then after doing that twice and eventually not> getting the > desired > > results, I introduced OLE and Virastop and it> was a night and > day > > difference. I credit these for helping him to> finally become > fully > > verbal and understandable to everyone else. In> fact, I did it > for 8-9 > > months a year and a half ago and I am waiting to> re-start in > about 1 > > month to see if it aids in clearing up some> residual issues. > Since > > every child's issues may be different, I think> it's

worth a try. > Good > > Luck!> >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

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Subject: RE: Re:

question on antiviral therapy

Hi D.,

I know it's been posted before, but where exactly is the Frech lab, and how do

you contact them?

Thank you!

Patty

To: mb12 valtrex

From: jasonmcgeecomcast (DOT) net

Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:50:48 -0600

Subject: Re: Re: question on antiviral therapy

We did the French Labs test and our mercury was 4x's the max

reference amount. All other metals were ok. We are hoping to

chelate once we get her gut healthy. Thank you!

D

Re: question on antiviral

> therapy

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > My son has no vaccinations whatsoever, and has

> had very little

> > antibiotic use, but really benefitted from

> antiviral therapy.

> Valtrex

> > helped but it was quite a difficult challenge

> with behaviors,

> etc.

> > Then after doing that twice and eventually not

> getting the

> desired

> > results, I introduced OLE and Virastop and it

> was a night and

> day

> > difference. I credit these for helping him to

> finally become

> fully

> > verbal and understandable to everyone else. In

> fact, I did it

> for 8-9

> > months a year and a half ago and I am waiting to

> re-start in

> about 1

> > month to see if it aids in clearing up some

> residual issues.

> Since

> > every child's issues may be different, I think

> it's worth a try.

> Good

> > Luck!

> >

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

What antifungals did you use while doing this therapy? Thanks. Di---

In mb12 valtrex , " heygot2gonow " wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> My son has no vaccinations whatsoever, and has had very little

> antibiotic use, but really benefitted from antiviral therapy.

Valtrex

> helped but it was quite a difficult challenge with behaviors, etc.

> Then after doing that twice and eventually not getting the desired

> results, I introduced OLE and Virastop and it was a night and day

> difference. I credit these for helping him to finally become fully

> verbal and understandable to everyone else. In fact, I did it for 8-

9

> months a year and a half ago and I am waiting to re-start in about 1

> month to see if it aids in clearing up some residual issues. Since

> every child's issues may be different, I think it's worth a try.

Good

> Luck!

>