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if your son has a diagnosed with apraxia, using the diagnostic codes 784.5

and 784.69 are legit to be paid by the insurance. Have your provider

reissue the receipts with the above codes.

HELP HELP HELP!!!

> Our family is in desperate need of some really good legal advise.

> We have a 5 yr old son (Spencer) who is diagnosed with Autism and

> Verbal Apraxia of Speech. To make a long story short, ALL of our

> medical claims for speech therapy were denied for 2005. Basically

> when we went to pre-certify for therapy they said it was a covered

> expense, then in April (after 3 months of therapy) they sent a

> letter requesting " more information " . We continued therapy, in

> NOVEMBER they said the therapy was for developmental delay. We are

> stuck at a crossroads because we have appealed and still be denied.

> There are so many more details to all this, but i dare not bore all

> of you. What we are wondering is if anyone has the name of a good

> attorney in the houston area that we could consult with about the

> WHOLE issue. (The service provider acted negligently as well--but i

> won't bore you) Any names and information you could give us is

> greatly appreciated. As of March, we had to stop therapy and now

> have a medical bill amounting to over $10,000. What really gets my

> goat is that if i had set out knowing i would have that amount of

> money to pay i would have chosen to put it towards some really good

> ABA and found someone else to do the speech on a " private " basis or

> included the speech as part of the ABA.

>

> Thanks in advance for your help!!

>

> Tami Eichenberger

> Mother of and Spencer

>

>

>

>

>

> Texas Autism Advocacy

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

> Texas Disability Network

> Calendar of Events

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

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Unfortunately those are the codes that we used in the first place.

They are, of course, saying those are developmental as well. It's

extra frustrating because the plan does provide for Speech Therapy,

but when you look at the speech codes they are ALL developmental in

some way. I guess that's how they get away with not paying. Seems

a little deceptive to me. Say you cover speech to get the consumer

to switch to that policy, but then when it comes time to pay, there

isn't a single code that will cover it. Hmmmm, interesting don't

you think??

>

> if your son has a diagnosed with apraxia, using the diagnostic

codes 784.5

> and 784.69 are legit to be paid by the insurance. Have your

provider

> reissue the receipts with the above codes.

>

>

> HELP HELP HELP!!!

>

>

> > Our family is in desperate need of some really good legal advise.

> > We have a 5 yr old son (Spencer) who is diagnosed with Autism and

> > Verbal Apraxia of Speech. To make a long story short, ALL of our

> > medical claims for speech therapy were denied for 2005.

Basically

> > when we went to pre-certify for therapy they said it was a

covered

> > expense, then in April (after 3 months of therapy) they sent a

> > letter requesting " more information " . We continued therapy, in

> > NOVEMBER they said the therapy was for developmental delay. We

are

> > stuck at a crossroads because we have appealed and still be

denied.

> > There are so many more details to all this, but i dare not bore

all

> > of you. What we are wondering is if anyone has the name of a

good

> > attorney in the houston area that we could consult with about the

> > WHOLE issue. (The service provider acted negligently as well--

but i

> > won't bore you) Any names and information you could give us is

> > greatly appreciated. As of March, we had to stop therapy and now

> > have a medical bill amounting to over $10,000. What really gets

my

> > goat is that if i had set out knowing i would have that amount of

> > money to pay i would have chosen to put it towards some really

good

> > ABA and found someone else to do the speech on a " private " basis

or

> > included the speech as part of the ABA.

> >

> > Thanks in advance for your help!!

> >

> > Tami Eichenberger

> > Mother of and Spencer

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Texas Autism Advocacy

> > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> >

> > Texas Disability Network

> > Calendar of Events

> > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> >

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Unfortunately those are the codes that we used in the first place.

They are, of course, saying those are developmental as well. It's

extra frustrating because the plan does provide for Speech Therapy,

but when you look at the speech codes they are ALL developmental in

some way. I guess that's how they get away with not paying. Seems

a little deceptive to me. Say you cover speech to get the consumer

to switch to that policy, but then when it comes time to pay, there

isn't a single code that will cover it. Hmmmm, interesting don't

you think??

>

> if your son has a diagnosed with apraxia, using the diagnostic

codes 784.5

> and 784.69 are legit to be paid by the insurance. Have your

provider

> reissue the receipts with the above codes.

>

>

> HELP HELP HELP!!!

>

>

> > Our family is in desperate need of some really good legal advise.

> > We have a 5 yr old son (Spencer) who is diagnosed with Autism and

> > Verbal Apraxia of Speech. To make a long story short, ALL of our

> > medical claims for speech therapy were denied for 2005.

Basically

> > when we went to pre-certify for therapy they said it was a

covered

> > expense, then in April (after 3 months of therapy) they sent a

> > letter requesting " more information " . We continued therapy, in

> > NOVEMBER they said the therapy was for developmental delay. We

are

> > stuck at a crossroads because we have appealed and still be

denied.

> > There are so many more details to all this, but i dare not bore

all

> > of you. What we are wondering is if anyone has the name of a

good

> > attorney in the houston area that we could consult with about the

> > WHOLE issue. (The service provider acted negligently as well--

but i

> > won't bore you) Any names and information you could give us is

> > greatly appreciated. As of March, we had to stop therapy and now

> > have a medical bill amounting to over $10,000. What really gets

my

> > goat is that if i had set out knowing i would have that amount of

> > money to pay i would have chosen to put it towards some really

good

> > ABA and found someone else to do the speech on a " private " basis

or

> > included the speech as part of the ABA.

> >

> > Thanks in advance for your help!!

> >

> > Tami Eichenberger

> > Mother of and Spencer

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Texas Autism Advocacy

> > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> >

> > Texas Disability Network

> > Calendar of Events

> > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> >

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What about a complaint to the Texas Department of Insurance? Holler if

you need links to the online process.

Tonya

Re: HELP HELP HELP!!!

Unfortunately those are the codes that we used in the first place.

They are, of course, saying those are developmental as well. It's

extra frustrating because the plan does provide for Speech Therapy,

but when you look at the speech codes they are ALL developmental in

some way. I guess that's how they get away with not paying. Seems

a little deceptive to me. Say you cover speech to get the consumer

to switch to that policy, but then when it comes time to pay, there

isn't a single code that will cover it. Hmmmm, interesting don't

you think??

>

> if your son has a diagnosed with apraxia, using the diagnostic

codes 784.5

> and 784.69 are legit to be paid by the insurance. Have your

provider

> reissue the receipts with the above codes.

>

>

> HELP HELP HELP!!!

>

>

> > Our family is in desperate need of some really good legal advise.

> > We have a 5 yr old son (Spencer) who is diagnosed with Autism and

> > Verbal Apraxia of Speech. To make a long story short, ALL of our

> > medical claims for speech therapy were denied for 2005.

Basically

> > when we went to pre-certify for therapy they said it was a

covered

> > expense, then in April (after 3 months of therapy) they sent a

> > letter requesting " more information " . We continued therapy, in

> > NOVEMBER they said the therapy was for developmental delay. We

are

> > stuck at a crossroads because we have appealed and still be

denied.

> > There are so many more details to all this, but i dare not bore

all

> > of you. What we are wondering is if anyone has the name of a

good

> > attorney in the houston area that we could consult with about the

> > WHOLE issue. (The service provider acted negligently as well--

but i

> > won't bore you) Any names and information you could give us is

> > greatly appreciated. As of March, we had to stop therapy and now

> > have a medical bill amounting to over $10,000. What really gets

my

> > goat is that if i had set out knowing i would have that amount of

> > money to pay i would have chosen to put it towards some really

good

> > ABA and found someone else to do the speech on a " private " basis

or

> > included the speech as part of the ABA.

> >

> > Thanks in advance for your help!!

> >

> > Tami Eichenberger

> > Mother of and Spencer

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Texas Autism Advocacy

> > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> >

> > Texas Disability Network

> > Calendar of Events

> > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> >

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What about a complaint to the Texas Department of Insurance? Holler if

you need links to the online process.

Tonya

Re: HELP HELP HELP!!!

Unfortunately those are the codes that we used in the first place.

They are, of course, saying those are developmental as well. It's

extra frustrating because the plan does provide for Speech Therapy,

but when you look at the speech codes they are ALL developmental in

some way. I guess that's how they get away with not paying. Seems

a little deceptive to me. Say you cover speech to get the consumer

to switch to that policy, but then when it comes time to pay, there

isn't a single code that will cover it. Hmmmm, interesting don't

you think??

>

> if your son has a diagnosed with apraxia, using the diagnostic

codes 784.5

> and 784.69 are legit to be paid by the insurance. Have your

provider

> reissue the receipts with the above codes.

>

>

> HELP HELP HELP!!!

>

>

> > Our family is in desperate need of some really good legal advise.

> > We have a 5 yr old son (Spencer) who is diagnosed with Autism and

> > Verbal Apraxia of Speech. To make a long story short, ALL of our

> > medical claims for speech therapy were denied for 2005.

Basically

> > when we went to pre-certify for therapy they said it was a

covered

> > expense, then in April (after 3 months of therapy) they sent a

> > letter requesting " more information " . We continued therapy, in

> > NOVEMBER they said the therapy was for developmental delay. We

are

> > stuck at a crossroads because we have appealed and still be

denied.

> > There are so many more details to all this, but i dare not bore

all

> > of you. What we are wondering is if anyone has the name of a

good

> > attorney in the houston area that we could consult with about the

> > WHOLE issue. (The service provider acted negligently as well--

but i

> > won't bore you) Any names and information you could give us is

> > greatly appreciated. As of March, we had to stop therapy and now

> > have a medical bill amounting to over $10,000. What really gets

my

> > goat is that if i had set out knowing i would have that amount of

> > money to pay i would have chosen to put it towards some really

good

> > ABA and found someone else to do the speech on a " private " basis

or

> > included the speech as part of the ABA.

> >

> > Thanks in advance for your help!!

> >

> > Tami Eichenberger

> > Mother of and Spencer

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Texas Autism Advocacy

> > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> >

> > Texas Disability Network

> > Calendar of Events

> > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> >

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Ah, that would be fraud.

I would suggest that you contact your state rep's and senator's offices.

Requests from a legislator to help you look into this. Nothing like

an inquiry from the Office of Insurance to make companies pay up. I

had to use this route when I was make other types of claims the company

had balked on.

S.

Re: HELP HELP HELP!!!

Unfortunately those are the codes that we used in the first place.

They are, of course, saying those are developmental as well. It's

extra frustrating because the plan does provide for Speech Therapy,

but when you look at the speech codes they are ALL developmental in

some way. I guess that's how they get away with not paying. Seems

a little deceptive to me. Say you cover speech to get the consumer

to switch to that policy, but then when it comes time to pay, there

isn't a single code that will cover it. Hmmmm, interesting don't

you think??

>

> if your son has a diagnosed with apraxia, using the diagnostic

codes 784.5

> and 784.69 are legit to be paid by the insurance. Have your

provider

> reissue the receipts with the above codes.

>

>

> HELP HELP HELP!!!

>

>

> > Our family is in desperate need of some really good legal advise.

> > We have a 5 yr old son (Spencer) who is diagnosed with Autism and

> > Verbal Apraxia of Speech. To make a long story short, ALL of our

> > medical claims for speech therapy were denied for 2005.

Basically

> > when we went to pre-certify for therapy they said it was a

covered

> > expense, then in April (after 3 months of therapy) they sent a

> > letter requesting " more information " . We continued therapy, in

> > NOVEMBER they said the therapy was for developmental delay. We

are

> > stuck at a crossroads because we have appealed and still be

denied.

> > There are so many more details to all this, but i dare not bore

all

> > of you. What we are wondering is if anyone has the name of a

good

> > attorney in the houston area that we could consult with about the

> > WHOLE issue. (The service provider acted negligently as well--

but i

> > won't bore you) Any names and information you could give us is

> > greatly appreciated. As of March, we had to stop therapy and now

> > have a medical bill amounting to over $10,000. What really gets

my

> > goat is that if i had set out knowing i would have that amount of

> > money to pay i would have chosen to put it towards some really

good

> > ABA and found someone else to do the speech on a " private " basis

or

> > included the speech as part of the ABA.

> >

> > Thanks in advance for your help!!

> >

> > Tami Eichenberger

> > Mother of and Spencer

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Texas Autism Advocacy

> > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> >

> > Texas Disability Network

> > Calendar of Events

> > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> >

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Ah, that would be fraud.

I would suggest that you contact your state rep's and senator's offices.

Requests from a legislator to help you look into this. Nothing like

an inquiry from the Office of Insurance to make companies pay up. I

had to use this route when I was make other types of claims the company

had balked on.

S.

Re: HELP HELP HELP!!!

Unfortunately those are the codes that we used in the first place.

They are, of course, saying those are developmental as well. It's

extra frustrating because the plan does provide for Speech Therapy,

but when you look at the speech codes they are ALL developmental in

some way. I guess that's how they get away with not paying. Seems

a little deceptive to me. Say you cover speech to get the consumer

to switch to that policy, but then when it comes time to pay, there

isn't a single code that will cover it. Hmmmm, interesting don't

you think??

>

> if your son has a diagnosed with apraxia, using the diagnostic

codes 784.5

> and 784.69 are legit to be paid by the insurance. Have your

provider

> reissue the receipts with the above codes.

>

>

> HELP HELP HELP!!!

>

>

> > Our family is in desperate need of some really good legal advise.

> > We have a 5 yr old son (Spencer) who is diagnosed with Autism and

> > Verbal Apraxia of Speech. To make a long story short, ALL of our

> > medical claims for speech therapy were denied for 2005.

Basically

> > when we went to pre-certify for therapy they said it was a

covered

> > expense, then in April (after 3 months of therapy) they sent a

> > letter requesting " more information " . We continued therapy, in

> > NOVEMBER they said the therapy was for developmental delay. We

are

> > stuck at a crossroads because we have appealed and still be

denied.

> > There are so many more details to all this, but i dare not bore

all

> > of you. What we are wondering is if anyone has the name of a

good

> > attorney in the houston area that we could consult with about the

> > WHOLE issue. (The service provider acted negligently as well--

but i

> > won't bore you) Any names and information you could give us is

> > greatly appreciated. As of March, we had to stop therapy and now

> > have a medical bill amounting to over $10,000. What really gets

my

> > goat is that if i had set out knowing i would have that amount of

> > money to pay i would have chosen to put it towards some really

good

> > ABA and found someone else to do the speech on a " private " basis

or

> > included the speech as part of the ABA.

> >

> > Thanks in advance for your help!!

> >

> > Tami Eichenberger

> > Mother of and Spencer

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Texas Autism Advocacy

> > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> >

> > Texas Disability Network

> > Calendar of Events

> > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> >

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Good to hear that you got results that route. When I filed a complaint with TDI

against United Healthcare, I got a letter stating that they (TDI) have no

authority to compel United to do anything.

Singleton wrote:

Ah, that would be fraud.

I would suggest that you contact your state rep's and senator's offices.

Requests from a legislator to help you look into this. Nothing like

an inquiry from the Office of Insurance to make companies pay up. I

had to use this route when I was make other types of claims the company

had balked on.

S.

Re: HELP HELP HELP!!!

Unfortunately those are the codes that we used in the first place.

They are, of course, saying those are developmental as well. It's

extra frustrating because the plan does provide for Speech Therapy,

but when you look at the speech codes they are ALL developmental in

some way. I guess that's how they get away with not paying. Seems

a little deceptive to me. Say you cover speech to get the consumer

to switch to that policy, but then when it comes time to pay, there

isn't a single code that will cover it. Hmmmm, interesting don't

you think??

>

> if your son has a diagnosed with apraxia, using the diagnostic

codes 784.5

> and 784.69 are legit to be paid by the insurance. Have your

provider

> reissue the receipts with the above codes.

>

>

> HELP HELP HELP!!!

>

>

> > Our family is in desperate need of some really good legal advise.

> > We have a 5 yr old son (Spencer) who is diagnosed with Autism and

> > Verbal Apraxia of Speech. To make a long story short, ALL of our

> > medical claims for speech therapy were denied for 2005.

Basically

> > when we went to pre-certify for therapy they said it was a

covered

> > expense, then in April (after 3 months of therapy) they sent a

> > letter requesting " more information " . We continued therapy, in

> > NOVEMBER they said the therapy was for developmental delay. We

are

> > stuck at a crossroads because we have appealed and still be

denied.

> > There are so many more details to all this, but i dare not bore

all

> > of you. What we are wondering is if anyone has the name of a

good

> > attorney in the houston area that we could consult with about the

> > WHOLE issue. (The service provider acted negligently as well--

but i

> > won't bore you) Any names and information you could give us is

> > greatly appreciated. As of March, we had to stop therapy and now

> > have a medical bill amounting to over $10,000. What really gets

my

> > goat is that if i had set out knowing i would have that amount of

> > money to pay i would have chosen to put it towards some really

good

> > ABA and found someone else to do the speech on a " private " basis

or

> > included the speech as part of the ABA.

> >

> > Thanks in advance for your help!!

> >

> > Tami Eichenberger

> > Mother of and Spencer

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Texas Autism Advocacy

> > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> >

> > Texas Disability Network

> > Calendar of Events

> > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> >

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Good to hear that you got results that route. When I filed a complaint with TDI

against United Healthcare, I got a letter stating that they (TDI) have no

authority to compel United to do anything.

Singleton wrote:

Ah, that would be fraud.

I would suggest that you contact your state rep's and senator's offices.

Requests from a legislator to help you look into this. Nothing like

an inquiry from the Office of Insurance to make companies pay up. I

had to use this route when I was make other types of claims the company

had balked on.

S.

Re: HELP HELP HELP!!!

Unfortunately those are the codes that we used in the first place.

They are, of course, saying those are developmental as well. It's

extra frustrating because the plan does provide for Speech Therapy,

but when you look at the speech codes they are ALL developmental in

some way. I guess that's how they get away with not paying. Seems

a little deceptive to me. Say you cover speech to get the consumer

to switch to that policy, but then when it comes time to pay, there

isn't a single code that will cover it. Hmmmm, interesting don't

you think??

>

> if your son has a diagnosed with apraxia, using the diagnostic

codes 784.5

> and 784.69 are legit to be paid by the insurance. Have your

provider

> reissue the receipts with the above codes.

>

>

> HELP HELP HELP!!!

>

>

> > Our family is in desperate need of some really good legal advise.

> > We have a 5 yr old son (Spencer) who is diagnosed with Autism and

> > Verbal Apraxia of Speech. To make a long story short, ALL of our

> > medical claims for speech therapy were denied for 2005.

Basically

> > when we went to pre-certify for therapy they said it was a

covered

> > expense, then in April (after 3 months of therapy) they sent a

> > letter requesting " more information " . We continued therapy, in

> > NOVEMBER they said the therapy was for developmental delay. We

are

> > stuck at a crossroads because we have appealed and still be

denied.

> > There are so many more details to all this, but i dare not bore

all

> > of you. What we are wondering is if anyone has the name of a

good

> > attorney in the houston area that we could consult with about the

> > WHOLE issue. (The service provider acted negligently as well--

but i

> > won't bore you) Any names and information you could give us is

> > greatly appreciated. As of March, we had to stop therapy and now

> > have a medical bill amounting to over $10,000. What really gets

my

> > goat is that if i had set out knowing i would have that amount of

> > money to pay i would have chosen to put it towards some really

good

> > ABA and found someone else to do the speech on a " private " basis

or

> > included the speech as part of the ABA.

> >

> > Thanks in advance for your help!!

> >

> > Tami Eichenberger

> > Mother of and Spencer

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Texas Autism Advocacy

> > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> >

> > Texas Disability Network

> > Calendar of Events

> > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> >

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Tami,

Interesting on reading this info. In my experience, insurance companies

are more likely to pay for specific services for a clearly defined

speech and language problem. The claim should be a description of the

specific speech,language, or hearing problems a child experiences.

So your saying the insurance denied coverage for speech language

therapy, bummer. I hope you do find some information on a different

approach.

Difficulty with motor planning for speech, once upon a time this is

what the speech and language pathologist used when asessing whether

developmental apraxia of speech is a problem. Developmental verbal

apraxia is the best term to use for insurance forms, same thing, but

sounds more medical than speech based.

When you appealed it the first time, has a letter of medical necessity

for treatment been submitted? Hopefully you run into some luck, this

should be reconsider coverage of speech-language pathology services for

your child. This treatment is medically necessary to treat the medical

condition of verbal apraxia, which is the result of neurological

damage.

Have you google search under

medical necessity for treatment for Speech therapy or Apraxia?

This site includes this info which I briefly noticed, there could be

more.

http://www.apraxia-kids.org/site/apps/nl/content3.asp?

c=chKMI0PIIsE & b=788455 & ct=464283

If coverage is denied:

If your policy lists speech pathology services as a covered benefit but

you were still denied:

Call your insurance company to determine the reason for denial. Ask for

a copy of the your plan's policy for speech therapy services and an

explanation for the denial in writing. Ask the individual what is

required from you to turn the denial into an acceptance (precisely what

information does the insurance company need?). Write down who (you

spoke with), when (time and date), and what (was said) for all

telephone calls. Keep all fax confirmations.

Write a letter to your insurance company asking them to review the

claim again. A written inquiry will more likely result in a written

response. The letter should be copied to your employer's human

resources officer. Include information about apraxia and its treatment.

Feel free to quote the Apraxia-Kids website.

Please return posting with any updates. I am interested on hearing more

as this is terrible how many health insurance keep denying services.

I use to work at a physical therapy clinic and had to appeal for

numerous Worker's comp patients and it did require alot of appealing

and majority of the time, ended up getting paid. It has been awhile

when I use to work with medical billing and of course with a different

cause, medical insurance policies has changed alot too. Wishing you

find a loop hole.

Irma

>

> Unfortunately those are the codes that we used in the first place.

> They are, of course, saying those are developmental as well. It's

> extra frustrating because the plan does provide for Speech Therapy,

> but when you look at the speech codes they are ALL developmental in

> some way. I guess that's how they get away with not paying. Seems

> a little deceptive to me. Say you cover speech to get the consumer

> to switch to that policy, but then when it comes time to pay, there

> isn't a single code that will cover it. Hmmmm, interesting don't

> you think??

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