RE: No-Ed Funding was: CLASS service agencies in Houston

[Guest guest]

What are " Management of Leisure Time " and " Socialization/Generalization

Training " ?

>

> I went to an overview at ESC-17 on Non-Educational funding back in

> September. The following is the handout they gave us. My notes are in

> ( ).

>

> They also said that some ESCs send the funding back & don't want to use

> it.

> Tonya

>

> Noneducational Community-Based Support Services Funds

>

> Program Summary:

> The Noneducational Community-Based Support Services Program was

> established by the Texas Legislature to provide a process for the

> allocation of funds to assist students with disabilities and their

> families obtain services so that those students may receive an

> appropriate free public education in the least restrictive environment.

> Pursuant to the Education Code 21.512. These funds are to be used solely

> for eligible students with disabilities who would remain or would have

> to be placed in residential facilities primarily for educational reasons

> without the provision of noneducational community-based support

> services. The support services may include in-home family support,

> respite care and case management for families with a student who

> otherwise would be placed by a school district in a private residential

> facility.

>

> Criteria:

> First Priority: To return a student currently in a private residential

> placement for educational reasons to the home, community and local

> education program.

> Second Priority: For continuing applications that will provide services

> which will allow a student at risk of a private residential placement

> for educational purposes to remain in the home, community and local

> education program.

> Third Priority: For new applications that will provide services which

> would allow a student

> at risk of a private residential placement for educational purposes to

> remain in the home, community and local education program.

>

> Frequently Requested Services:

> Respite care

> Attendant care

> Management of Leisure Time

> Socialization and/or Generalization Training

> Individual and/or Family Support

> Peer and/or Parent Support Group

>

> Unallowable Services:

> Medicine or Medical Treatments

> Equipment

> Educationally Related Services

> Transportation (unless part of allowed services)

> Vocational/Transition Services

> Babysitting

> Direct Payments to Parents

> Daily Services

>

> Application Process: (through school only - can't go around them)

> Eligible students are typically identified by school staff and referred

> to the Special Education Director of the district that the student

> resides in to initiate the application process. Parents and agencies are

> also encouraged to contact the Special Education Director if they

> believe a student may be eligible for this program. The decision to

> apply for funding for students determined to be eligible is not a part

> of an ARD process and is totally based on the discretion of the Special

> Education Director and the school district, as well as the appropriate

> of the student and family. Once an application is initiated, the local

> Community

> Resource Coordination Group (CRCG) will assume an active role in the

> process and will establish a local resource conversion plan. Upon

> completion of the application the Special Education Director will

> forward it to the Education Service Center for final approval. If

> criteria are met, the services requested are allowable and funds remain

> available, the application will be approved and funding will flow to the

> school district. The district is responsible for finding and contracting

> with providers for the requested services.

> Funding will be granted for no more than one year at a time.

>

>

>

>

> Texas Autism Advocacy

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

> Texas Disability Network

> Calendar of Events

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

[Guest guest]

Ugh, I don't have that in my notes. Must have made sense at the time,

but I sure don't remember now. Call your ESC, they will know. Sorry!

Tonya

Re: No-Ed Funding was: CLASS service

agencies in Houston

What are " Management of Leisure Time " and " Socialization/Generalization

Training " ?

>

> I went to an overview at ESC-17 on Non-Educational funding back in

> September. The following is the handout they gave us. My notes are

in

> ( ).

>

> They also said that some ESCs send the funding back & don't want to

use

> it.

> Tonya

>

> Noneducational Community-Based Support Services Funds

>

> Program Summary:

> The Noneducational Community-Based Support Services Program was

> established by the Texas Legislature to provide a process for the

> allocation of funds to assist students with disabilities and their

> families obtain services so that those students may receive an

> appropriate free public education in the least restrictive

environment.

> Pursuant to the Education Code 21.512. These funds are to be used

solely

> for eligible students with disabilities who would remain or would have

> to be placed in residential facilities primarily for educational

reasons

> without the provision of noneducational community-based support

> services. The support services may include in-home family support,

> respite care and case management for families with a student who

> otherwise would be placed by a school district in a private

residential

> facility.

>

> Criteria:

> First Priority: To return a student currently in a private residential

> placement for educational reasons to the home, community and local

> education program.

> Second Priority: For continuing applications that will provide

services

> which will allow a student at risk of a private residential placement

> for educational purposes to remain in the home, community and local

> education program.

> Third Priority: For new applications that will provide services which

> would allow a student

> at risk of a private residential placement for educational purposes to

> remain in the home, community and local education program.

>

> Frequently Requested Services:

> Respite care

> Attendant care

> Management of Leisure Time

> Socialization and/or Generalization Training

> Individual and/or Family Support

> Peer and/or Parent Support Group

>

> Unallowable Services:

> Medicine or Medical Treatments

> Equipment

> Educationally Related Services

> Transportation (unless part of allowed services)

> Vocational/Transition Services

> Babysitting

> Direct Payments to Parents

> Daily Services

>

> Application Process: (through school only - can't go around them)

> Eligible students are typically identified by school staff and

referred

> to the Special Education Director of the district that the student

> resides in to initiate the application process. Parents and agencies

are

> also encouraged to contact the Special Education Director if they

> believe a student may be eligible for this program. The decision to

> apply for funding for students determined to be eligible is not a part

> of an ARD process and is totally based on the discretion of the

Special

> Education Director and the school district, as well as the appropriate

> of the student and family. Once an application is initiated, the local

> Community

> Resource Coordination Group (CRCG) will assume an active role in the

> process and will establish a local resource conversion plan. Upon

> completion of the application the Special Education Director will

> forward it to the Education Service Center for final approval. If

> criteria are met, the services requested are allowable and funds

remain

> available, the application will be approved and funding will flow to

the

> school district. The district is responsible for finding and

contracting

> with providers for the requested services.

> Funding will be granted for no more than one year at a time.

>

>

>

>

> Texas Autism Advocacy

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

> Texas Disability Network

> Calendar of Events

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

[Guest guest]

It sounds like your child has to be at risk for institutionalization before

receiving any funding. Or did I read too much into this?

Aliza

Tonya Hettler wrote:

Ugh, I don't have that in my notes. Must have made sense at the time,

but I sure don't remember now. Call your ESC, they will know. Sorry!

Tonya

Re: No-Ed Funding was: CLASS service

agencies in Houston

What are " Management of Leisure Time " and " Socialization/Generalization

Training " ?

>

> I went to an overview at ESC-17 on Non-Educational funding back in

> September. The following is the handout they gave us. My notes are

in

> ( ).

>

> They also said that some ESCs send the funding back & don't want to

use

> it.

> Tonya

>

> Noneducational Community-Based Support Services Funds

>

> Program Summary:

> The Noneducational Community-Based Support Services Program was

> established by the Texas Legislature to provide a process for the

> allocation of funds to assist students with disabilities and their

> families obtain services so that those students may receive an

> appropriate free public education in the least restrictive

environment.

> Pursuant to the Education Code 21.512. These funds are to be used

solely

> for eligible students with disabilities who would remain or would have

> to be placed in residential facilities primarily for educational

reasons

> without the provision of noneducational community-based support

> services. The support services may include in-home family support,

> respite care and case management for families with a student who

> otherwise would be placed by a school district in a private

residential

> facility.

>

> Criteria:

> First Priority: To return a student currently in a private residential

> placement for educational reasons to the home, community and local

> education program.

> Second Priority: For continuing applications that will provide

services

> which will allow a student at risk of a private residential placement

> for educational purposes to remain in the home, community and local

> education program.

> Third Priority: For new applications that will provide services which

> would allow a student

> at risk of a private residential placement for educational purposes to

> remain in the home, community and local education program.

>

> Frequently Requested Services:

> Respite care

> Attendant care

> Management of Leisure Time

> Socialization and/or Generalization Training

> Individual and/or Family Support

> Peer and/or Parent Support Group

>

> Unallowable Services:

> Medicine or Medical Treatments

> Equipment

> Educationally Related Services

> Transportation (unless part of allowed services)

> Vocational/Transition Services

> Babysitting

> Direct Payments to Parents

> Daily Services

>

> Application Process: (through school only - can't go around them)

> Eligible students are typically identified by school staff and

referred

> to the Special Education Director of the district that the student

> resides in to initiate the application process. Parents and agencies

are

> also encouraged to contact the Special Education Director if they

> believe a student may be eligible for this program. The decision to

> apply for funding for students determined to be eligible is not a part

> of an ARD process and is totally based on the discretion of the

Special

> Education Director and the school district, as well as the appropriate

> of the student and family. Once an application is initiated, the local

> Community

> Resource Coordination Group (CRCG) will assume an active role in the

> process and will establish a local resource conversion plan. Upon

> completion of the application the Special Education Director will

> forward it to the Education Service Center for final approval. If

> criteria are met, the services requested are allowable and funds

remain

> available, the application will be approved and funding will flow to

the

> school district. The district is responsible for finding and

contracting

> with providers for the requested services.

> Funding will be granted for no more than one year at a time.

>

>

>

>

> Texas Autism Advocacy

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

> Texas Disability Network

> Calendar of Events

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

[Guest guest]

Yes it says that.... -- but then aren't all children " at risk " if they don't get

help, if the parents don't get respite? (of course we wouldn't do that -- but

if they want to be so technical - then yes, they are at risk.....)

We get non-ed funding for - intermittently and sporadically!

Aliza Ratterree wrote:

It sounds like your child has to be at risk for institutionalization before

receiving any funding. Or did I read too much into this?

Aliza

M. Guppy - What we do for ourselves lasts only a moment; but what we

do for others ~ lasts a lifetime...

Don't tell God how big your storm is, tell the storm how big your God is!

Listowner & Facilitator of: www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

[Guest guest]

That's what they said in the workshop; in, or at risk of, out of home

placement.

Tonya

Re: No-Ed Funding was: CLASS service

agencies in Houston

What are " Management of Leisure Time " and " Socialization/Generalization

Training " ?

>

> I went to an overview at ESC-17 on Non-Educational funding back in

> September. The following is the handout they gave us. My notes are

in

> ( ).

>

> They also said that some ESCs send the funding back & don't want to

use

> it.

> Tonya

>

> Noneducational Community-Based Support Services Funds

>

> Program Summary:

> The Noneducational Community-Based Support Services Program was

> established by the Texas Legislature to provide a process for the

> allocation of funds to assist students with disabilities and their

> families obtain services so that those students may receive an

> appropriate free public education in the least restrictive

environment.

> Pursuant to the Education Code 21.512. These funds are to be used

solely

> for eligible students with disabilities who would remain or would have

> to be placed in residential facilities primarily for educational

reasons

> without the provision of noneducational community-based support

> services. The support services may include in-home family support,

> respite care and case management for families with a student who

> otherwise would be placed by a school district in a private

residential

> facility.

>

> Criteria:

> First Priority: To return a student currently in a private residential

> placement for educational reasons to the home, community and local

> education program.

> Second Priority: For continuing applications that will provide

services

> which will allow a student at risk of a private residential placement

> for educational purposes to remain in the home, community and local

> education program.

> Third Priority: For new applications that will provide services which

> would allow a student

> at risk of a private residential placement for educational purposes to

> remain in the home, community and local education program.

>

> Frequently Requested Services:

> Respite care

> Attendant care

> Management of Leisure Time

> Socialization and/or Generalization Training

> Individual and/or Family Support

> Peer and/or Parent Support Group

>

> Unallowable Services:

> Medicine or Medical Treatments

> Equipment

> Educationally Related Services

> Transportation (unless part of allowed services)

> Vocational/Transition Services

> Babysitting

> Direct Payments to Parents

> Daily Services

>

> Application Process: (through school only - can't go around them)

> Eligible students are typically identified by school staff and

referred

> to the Special Education Director of the district that the student

> resides in to initiate the application process. Parents and agencies

are

> also encouraged to contact the Special Education Director if they

> believe a student may be eligible for this program. The decision to

> apply for funding for students determined to be eligible is not a part

> of an ARD process and is totally based on the discretion of the

Special

> Education Director and the school district, as well as the appropriate

> of the student and family. Once an application is initiated, the local

> Community

> Resource Coordination Group (CRCG) will assume an active role in the

> process and will establish a local resource conversion plan. Upon

> completion of the application the Special Education Director will

> forward it to the Education Service Center for final approval. If

> criteria are met, the services requested are allowable and funds

remain

> available, the application will be approved and funding will flow to

the

> school district. The district is responsible for finding and

contracting

> with providers for the requested services.

> Funding will be granted for no more than one year at a time.

>

>

>

>

> Texas Autism Advocacy

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

> Texas Disability Network

> Calendar of Events

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

[Guest guest]

That is true the way that it's written, however, that is not the case with our

boys and we have received funding generally for the past 5 or 6 years. I say

" generally " because there were a couple of summers when we were not awarded the

grant--not really sure why. I think the state must leave it up to the

discretion of each district how strictly they want to adhere to the provisions

of the Non -Ed funding and it's purpose. I was aware of the intent of the funds

when I first asked about it(I figured it can't hurt to ask) and was pleasantly

surprised when they approved us for the grant. Also, it helps to have a

WONDERFUL contact person like we have in our district. I would certainly

encourage everyone to at least ask their district about the Non -Ed funding.

Re: No-Ed Funding was: CLASS service

agencies in Houston

What are " Management of Leisure Time " and " Socialization/Generalization

Training " ?

>

> I went to an overview at ESC-17 on Non-Educational funding back in

> September. The following is the handout they gave us. My notes are

in

> ( ).

>

> They also said that some ESCs send the funding back & don't want to

use

> it.

> Tonya

>

> Noneducational Community-Based Support Services Funds

>

> Program Summary:

> The Noneducational Community-Based Support Services Program was

> established by the Texas Legislature to provide a process for the

> allocation of funds to assist students with disabilities and their

> families obtain services so that those students may receive an

> appropriate free public education in the least restrictive

environment.

> Pursuant to the Education Code 21.512. These funds are to be used

solely

> for eligible students with disabilities who would remain or would have

> to be placed in residential facilities primarily for educational

reasons

> without the provision of noneducational community-based support

> services. The support services may include in-home family support,

> respite care and case management for families with a student who

> otherwise would be placed by a school district in a private

residential

> facility.

>

> Criteria:

> First Priority: To return a student currently in a private residential

> placement for educational reasons to the home, community and local

> education program.

> Second Priority: For continuing applications that will provide

services

> which will allow a student at risk of a private residential placement

> for educational purposes to remain in the home, community and local

> education program.

> Third Priority: For new applications that will provide services which

> would allow a student

> at risk of a private residential placement for educational purposes to

> remain in the home, community and local education program.

>

> Frequently Requested Services:

> Respite care

> Attendant care

> Management of Leisure Time

> Socialization and/or Generalization Training

> Individual and/or Family Support

> Peer and/or Parent Support Group

>

> Unallowable Services:

> Medicine or Medical Treatments

> Equipment

> Educationally Related Services

> Transportation (unless part of allowed services)

> Vocational/Transition Services

> Babysitting

> Direct Payments to Parents

> Daily Services

>

> Application Process: (through school only - can't go around them)

> Eligible students are typically identified by school staff and

referred

> to the Special Education Director of the district that the student

> resides in to initiate the application process. Parents and agencies

are

> also encouraged to contact the Special Education Director if they

> believe a student may be eligible for this program. The decision to

> apply for funding for students determined to be eligible is not a part

> of an ARD process and is totally based on the discretion of the

Special

> Education Director and the school district, as well as the appropriate

> of the student and family. Once an application is initiated, the local

> Community

> Resource Coordination Group (CRCG) will assume an active role in the

> process and will establish a local resource conversion plan. Upon

> completion of the application the Special Education Director will

> forward it to the Education Service Center for final approval. If

> criteria are met, the services requested are allowable and funds

remain

> available, the application will be approved and funding will flow to

the

> school district. The district is responsible for finding and

contracting

> with providers for the requested services.

> Funding will be granted for no more than one year at a time.

>

>

>

>

> Texas Autism Advocacy

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

> Texas Disability Network

> Calendar of Events

> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

>

[Guest guest]

And how do you prove to the district's satisfaction that you would actually

follow through with that? What if your child is not severely affected? I mean,

even mild to moderate AS kids are challenging, but I find that there are many

behaviors exhibited at home that are not at school. Many people (at school) are

in utter disbelief when I describe the stimming, tantrums and self-injury that

goes on at home- and the amount of time and energy devoted to managing these

behaviors.

Guppy wrote: Yes it says that.... -- but

then aren't all children " at risk " if they don't get help, if the parents don't

get respite? (of course we wouldn't do that -- but if they want to be so

technical - then yes, they are at risk.....)

We get non-ed funding for - intermittently and sporadically!

Aliza Ratterree wrote:

It sounds like your child has to be at risk for institutionalization before

receiving any funding. Or did I read too much into this?

Aliza

M. Guppy - What we do for ourselves lasts only a moment; but what we

do for others ~ lasts a lifetime...

Don't tell God how big your storm is, tell the storm how big your God is!

Listowner & Facilitator of: www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

[Guest guest]

Maybe a video of the behaviors would convince them???

I've also offered to send our son home with the dissenters for two

weeks. They run backwards pretty fast then. We're in a small district

though and I'm labeled as one of " those " mothers. They probably

believed I'd really do it. :-)

Tonya

RE: No-Ed Funding was: CLASS service

agencies in Houston

And how do you prove to the district's satisfaction that you would

actually follow through with that? What if your child is not severely

affected? I mean, even mild to moderate AS kids are challenging, but I

find that there are many behaviors exhibited at home that are not at

school. Many people (at school) are in utter disbelief when I describe

the stimming, tantrums and self-injury that goes on at home- and the

amount of time and energy devoted to managing these behaviors.

[Guest guest]

Let the punishment fit the crime!! Maybe we need to send our kids home with

everybody who's denied us help for all these years. I'd love to send my

daughter to any decision maker at our health insurance " provider " (more like

health insurance deny-er).

Aliza

Tonya Hettler wrote:

Maybe a video of the behaviors would convince them???

I've also offered to send our son home with the dissenters for two

weeks. They run backwards pretty fast then. We're in a small district

though and I'm labeled as one of " those " mothers. They probably

believed I'd really do it. :-)

Tonya

RE: No-Ed Funding was: CLASS service

agencies in Houston

And how do you prove to the district's satisfaction that you would

actually follow through with that? What if your child is not severely

affected? I mean, even mild to moderate AS kids are challenging, but I

find that there are many behaviors exhibited at home that are not at

school. Many people (at school) are in utter disbelief when I describe

the stimming, tantrums and self-injury that goes on at home- and the

amount of time and energy devoted to managing these behaviors.

Texas Autism Advocacy

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

Texas Disability Network

Calendar of Events

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

[Guest guest]

" It sounds like your child has to be at risk for institutionalization before

receiving any funding. Or did I read too much into this? "

Aliza,

No, you are right on the money. The purpose of non-ed funds is SUPPOSED to

be for children who are at immediate risk of being placed in a state

hospital or state school. The money is administered through the CRCG, not

actually through the school. (Don't ask me what CRCG stands for, I can't

remember!)

Every community area is supposed to have a CRCG council that decides on who

gets the non-ed funds. Some districts are very good about presenting " cases "

to the CRCG for funding. Others won't even consider applying for non-ed

funds. However, it is important to note that SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE NOT THE

ONLY ENTITIES THAT CAN APPLY FOR NON-ED FUNDS!!! MHMR entities, hospitals,

and other service providers can present your " case " to the CRCG for

consideration...that is why they are NON-ED funds. I know several school

districts in the DFW area who REFUSE to have anything to do with CRCG

because they just think it is too much trouble...but another group like MHMR

may present their case instead. Sometimes, a family can talk to the CRCG

coordinator and refer themselves for funds. But it is up to the people on

the CRCG committee as to who gets the $$ and if there is any $$ still

available. I know in Tarrant County, the funds get used up very quickly, so

if you apply toward the summer, there usually isn't any $$ left, because

there is only a set amount of funding available. I know several families who

have received non-ed funds, and they usually get used for respite and

" attendant " type care.

At least in Tarrant County, the CRCG operates through the Mental Health

portion of MHMR...there are generally two groups who apply and receive the

funds...kids with severe emotional disturbance/mental illness and those with

severe behavior issues related to autism.

So, you don't have to RELY on the school district to pursue the funds, but

if your district doesn't " play " with the CRCG, then you are much less likely

to be able to receive the funds unless you can have another agency stand up

for you to make a case that your child is in " immediate danger " of

residential or state hospital placement.

nna

P.S. I have been to a number of CRCG meetings plus a good friend of mine is

the previous CRCG coordinator for Tarrant County.