Guest guest Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Hi Kerri. I am glad to hear there is someone else out there like me. I thought I was the only one, or I really didn't have RA. But I just had my hands and feet xrayed this week, and my hands showed normal. My hands hurt pretty bad especially my right thumb and wrist area. When I have a bad flare the pain there is almost intolerable. Even when my flare starts to get better, the pain there is still very bad. But everything is normal on xray?? The xray of my feet showed alot of osteo degeneration. My regular doctor was telling me this stuff, and he really couldn't help too much of what it all means, but I see my rheumy Oct. 10 and he will go over the results of xray and labs. I really didn't understand my regular doctor when he was talking about my feet. I don't know if he was saying osteo arthritic problems or osteoporosis changes. Aaaarrrrrgggggg! It gets so frustrating sometimes don't it? I know what you mean about going nuts. If I wasn't nutty before all this started, I m sure gonna be by time its over with! Hang in there -- [ ] rheumy visit and new meds I hope all of you are having good days and there are better ones yet to come Today I had my third rheumy visit, although the visit itself was short(he had an emergency) I guess it was pretty productive. I was able to explain that the Arava was working for general achiness and morning stiffness was improved about 20% but because of that, I was able to find where most of the localized pain is- deep in heel, knees, and 3rd joint in fingers... after discussing that he decided to start me on methotrexate and folic acid, any of you who have taken these- I'd appreciate to hear what your side effects were and what I should expect. He also went over a list that I brought in of health issues I deal with so I would know if they were related to RA or if I should go to my GP with them. I had more lab work today and go back in 6 weeks for more. Also, on xrays and mri's (3 years old) there is no visible arthritis or erosion... rheumy said doesn't matter what those said because its possible to have RA (or other inflammatory disease) and not show that progressive physical damage...has anyone ever heard of this? It seems impossible that I am in so much pain and nothing is seen. My lab work indicates RA and maybe SLE and chronic inflammatory and pain problems as does swelling in my hands and feet but nothing shows on exrays. I don't know, to me its like giving birth only to find there was no baby... why all the pain? If any of you have any thoughts, please feel free to share... sometimes I feel as if I'm just going completely nuts. happy days to all of you. kerri sue __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Hi Kerri. I am glad to hear there is someone else out there like me. I thought I was the only one, or I really didn't have RA. But I just had my hands and feet xrayed this week, and my hands showed normal. My hands hurt pretty bad especially my right thumb and wrist area. When I have a bad flare the pain there is almost intolerable. Even when my flare starts to get better, the pain there is still very bad. But everything is normal on xray?? The xray of my feet showed alot of osteo degeneration. My regular doctor was telling me this stuff, and he really couldn't help too much of what it all means, but I see my rheumy Oct. 10 and he will go over the results of xray and labs. I really didn't understand my regular doctor when he was talking about my feet. I don't know if he was saying osteo arthritic problems or osteoporosis changes. Aaaarrrrrgggggg! It gets so frustrating sometimes don't it? I know what you mean about going nuts. If I wasn't nutty before all this started, I m sure gonna be by time its over with! Hang in there -- [ ] rheumy visit and new meds I hope all of you are having good days and there are better ones yet to come Today I had my third rheumy visit, although the visit itself was short(he had an emergency) I guess it was pretty productive. I was able to explain that the Arava was working for general achiness and morning stiffness was improved about 20% but because of that, I was able to find where most of the localized pain is- deep in heel, knees, and 3rd joint in fingers... after discussing that he decided to start me on methotrexate and folic acid, any of you who have taken these- I'd appreciate to hear what your side effects were and what I should expect. He also went over a list that I brought in of health issues I deal with so I would know if they were related to RA or if I should go to my GP with them. I had more lab work today and go back in 6 weeks for more. Also, on xrays and mri's (3 years old) there is no visible arthritis or erosion... rheumy said doesn't matter what those said because its possible to have RA (or other inflammatory disease) and not show that progressive physical damage...has anyone ever heard of this? It seems impossible that I am in so much pain and nothing is seen. My lab work indicates RA and maybe SLE and chronic inflammatory and pain problems as does swelling in my hands and feet but nothing shows on exrays. I don't know, to me its like giving birth only to find there was no baby... why all the pain? If any of you have any thoughts, please feel free to share... sometimes I feel as if I'm just going completely nuts. happy days to all of you. kerri sue __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Kerri, I've taken MTX and folic acid for 2.5 years now. I started on 10mgs a week. The only side effect on that dosage was mild fatigue for a couple of days after taking it. I started seeing improvement in joint pain and swelling after about 3 weeks. After about 1.5 years we increased to 15 mgs because of increased joint involvement. I started having mild hair loss and increased fatique. I stayed on that for several months and then changed Drs. and he wanted me to increase it to 20 mgs a week. I was increasing the folic acid with each MTX increase. At 20 mg the fatigue (much more)was lasting almost from one dose til the next and my hair started falling out by the handfuls. I only took two weeks of the 20mgs and called my doc and said no go one this one. I'm now back down to 10mgs and taking minocin bid and feel much better. It did really help the joint pain and stiffness but the fatigue and hair loss at the higher dose was unacceptalble. I also have been taking naproxen since I first started taking the MTX. Hope the information is helpful and that you get great benefit and no sided effects. --- kerri paquette <ksp2242@...> wrote: > > I hope all of you are having good days and there are > better ones yet to come. Today I had my third rheumy > visit, although the visit itself was short(he had an > emergency) I guess it was pretty productive. I was > able to explain that the Arava was working for > general achiness and morning stiffness was improved > about 20% but because of that, I was able to find > where most of the localized pain is- deep in heel, > knees, and 3rd joint in fingers... after discussing > that he decided to start me on methotrexate and > folic acid, any of you who have taken these- I'd > appreciate to hear what your side effects were and > what I should expect. He also went over a list that > I brought in of health issues I deal with so I would > know if they were related to RA or if I should go to > my GP with them. I had more lab work today and go > back in 6 weeks for more. Also, on xrays and mri's > (3 years old) there is no visible arthritis or > erosion... rheumy said doesn't matter what those > said because its possible to have > RA (or other inflammatory disease) and not show > that progressive physical damage...has anyone ever > heard of this? It seems impossible that I am in so > much pain and nothing is seen. My lab work indicates > RA and maybe SLE and chronic inflammatory and pain > problems as does swelling in my hands and feet, but > nothing shows on exrays. I don't know, to me its > like giving birth only to find there was no baby... > why all the pain? If any of you have any thoughts, > please feel free to share... sometimes I feel as if > I'm just going completely nuts. happy days to all > of you. > > > > kerri sue > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Kerri, I've taken MTX and folic acid for 2.5 years now. I started on 10mgs a week. The only side effect on that dosage was mild fatigue for a couple of days after taking it. I started seeing improvement in joint pain and swelling after about 3 weeks. After about 1.5 years we increased to 15 mgs because of increased joint involvement. I started having mild hair loss and increased fatique. I stayed on that for several months and then changed Drs. and he wanted me to increase it to 20 mgs a week. I was increasing the folic acid with each MTX increase. At 20 mg the fatigue (much more)was lasting almost from one dose til the next and my hair started falling out by the handfuls. I only took two weeks of the 20mgs and called my doc and said no go one this one. I'm now back down to 10mgs and taking minocin bid and feel much better. It did really help the joint pain and stiffness but the fatigue and hair loss at the higher dose was unacceptalble. I also have been taking naproxen since I first started taking the MTX. Hope the information is helpful and that you get great benefit and no sided effects. --- kerri paquette <ksp2242@...> wrote: > > I hope all of you are having good days and there are > better ones yet to come. Today I had my third rheumy > visit, although the visit itself was short(he had an > emergency) I guess it was pretty productive. I was > able to explain that the Arava was working for > general achiness and morning stiffness was improved > about 20% but because of that, I was able to find > where most of the localized pain is- deep in heel, > knees, and 3rd joint in fingers... after discussing > that he decided to start me on methotrexate and > folic acid, any of you who have taken these- I'd > appreciate to hear what your side effects were and > what I should expect. He also went over a list that > I brought in of health issues I deal with so I would > know if they were related to RA or if I should go to > my GP with them. I had more lab work today and go > back in 6 weeks for more. Also, on xrays and mri's > (3 years old) there is no visible arthritis or > erosion... rheumy said doesn't matter what those > said because its possible to have > RA (or other inflammatory disease) and not show > that progressive physical damage...has anyone ever > heard of this? It seems impossible that I am in so > much pain and nothing is seen. My lab work indicates > RA and maybe SLE and chronic inflammatory and pain > problems as does swelling in my hands and feet, but > nothing shows on exrays. I don't know, to me its > like giving birth only to find there was no baby... > why all the pain? If any of you have any thoughts, > please feel free to share... sometimes I feel as if > I'm just going completely nuts. happy days to all > of you. > > > > kerri sue > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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