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Dennis in Eastexas

" You can't always fix it with money "

Re: [ ] Re: smoking

> Marwa,

>

> That is so sad. Cigarettes make a poor substitute for friends. In your

> new country, aren't there some people at work that you could make

> friends with?

>

> It's also sad that you would prefer to die rather than stop smoking. If

> smoking gives you lung cancer, you will probably die. But first, you

> will suffer.

>

> If you don't want to quit, of course you can't. You are letting

> yourself be ruled by nicotine. Your addiction is controlling your life.

>

> I know that I can say nothing to convince you to quit. So I'll shut up.

>

> Sue

>

> On Sunday, July 2, 2006, at 02:05 AM, sicsica2000 wrote:

>>

>> I dont have friends, family or anything at all but i have my

>> cigarettes, so i prefer to die than to stop.

>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ok, i guess im the one that must shutup.

but just for the records: i think anything in this life make a

better substitute than people when it comes to close relationships,

atleast when u smoke cigarettes u know whats waiting for u but

dealing with people bring only suffering and pain and mostly when ur

not excpecting it.

Marwa

> >

> > I dont have friends, family or anything at all but i have my

> > cigarettes, so i prefer to die than to stop.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > I dont have friends, family or anything at all but i have my

> > > cigarettes, so i prefer to die than to stop.

> > >

> >Hear ye, Hear ye,.....let's just stop the smoking thing with

Marwa.She doe NOT need to come here and be pecked to death. She is

entitled to her opinion. Enough already. We need to be her friends.

and friends know when to STOP!! enough has been said already. Please

let us never mention this again. It would be a shame if Marwa never

came back to a place where she can find answers and friends because

of this one issue. jenna

[Guest guest]

Oh sweetie... I am sorry that someone has hurt you so badly that you feel

that way. I hope that you are able to heal enough to experience the joy in

life again. Life has enough difficult moments without carrying that burden

of cynicism and holding up that wall of isolation.

Hugs,

Colette

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In this life we cannot do great things. We can

only do small things with great love.

~ Mother

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[ ] Re: smoking

Ok, i guess im the one that must shutup.

but just for the records: i think anything in this life make a

better substitute than people when it comes to close relationships,

atleast when u smoke cigarettes u know whats waiting for u but

dealing with people bring only suffering and pain and mostly when ur

not excpecting it.

Marwa

> >

> > I dont have friends, family or anything at all but i have my

> > cigarettes, so i prefer to die than to stop.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You know, I have heard someone else say the same thing. This was in 1997 when I

was still able to be outgoing and socialize at the work place. A lady there

smoked and I asked her what does smoking do for her. She said it was like a

best friend. I really don't think she was interested in befriending anyone

else. There were plenty of us there and she was friendly enough but still took

frequent cigarette breaks. I guess if it means a best friend to you, it would

be tough giving up a best friend. I am not in support of cigarettes but believe

in live and let live attitude as long as no one else gets hurt and that means I

don't believe in exposing others to secondhand smoke against their will. Yet if

you want to take a stroll on break with a cigarette, it's your choice. My mom

smoked for years. She stopped around 10 years ago and passed away recently

anyway at the age of 59 years. That's young to me. So, I don't like to make

judgements about who should stop or not.

I certainly don't want to be addicted to anything -- legal or not legal.

Okay. Have a blessed day today.

peace,

Ebony

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[Guest guest]

Hi Marwa, you are free to have and express your opinion whether others agree

with it or not. I feel sad that life has not been kinder to you and don't ever

feel you have to shut up. We are here to listen and help if we can. Smoking

doesn't make you a bad person.

Hugs

June

----- Original Message -----

From: sicsica2000

Ok, i guess im the one that must shutup.

but just for the records: i think anything in this life make a

better substitute than people when it comes to close relationships,

atleast when u smoke cigarettes u know whats waiting for u but

dealing with people bring only suffering and pain and mostly when ur

not excpecting it.

Marwa

> >

> > I dont have friends, family or anything at all but i have my

> > cigarettes, so i prefer to die than to stop.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I changed the group from RA-support to Nonsmoking-support (lol).

Thanks guys for ur concern i really appreciate it. Im sorry if i

made all think that im uncomfortable or mad, im not, u all are right

and ur point of view is right.

Sue, im sorry if my reply sounded harsh or impolite i really didnt

mean it. Plz accept my apology.

Jenna, Kathe, June, thanks a lot.

Colette, thanks and im already having all the fun, cuz i think its

u and only u who can make ur life more fun.

Ebony, u r right addiction is the worst thing in life, but if i

had to think like that, then i consider my life as big addicttion

display, im addicted to work, cigarettes, car racing, food.... Well

actually its not addiction as if u could say that when i start

something i cant stop my self, like i could go days without smoking

or eating but once i start the only thing that stops me is that

there is nothing left. Its very frustrating that i cant keep food in

the house and i have to buy every meal, it also scared me to death

that i cant stop my self but life goes on.

Thanks for the lovely story of Betty and Ann, i didnt really know

what to make with it. By the way " Money does fix everything honey " .

Does any one of u had problems with driving, lately i feel like i

cant concentrate and my knees hurts also my hands are shaking all

the time and i had to change my glasses 3 times only in this month.

Thanks guys for everything.

Marwa

[Guest guest]

Marwa,

There's no need to apologize. I didn't think that your reply sounded

harsh or impolite. I hope that you did not think that anyone was

ridiculing you, as someone suggested. I think that most of the ones who

joined in this discussion are ex-smokers, and they become the biggest

crusaders against smoking. We've been there, done that, and have the

T-shirt. And we of course know what a hard thing it is to stop.

I think that it is really neat that we can communicate with someone all

the way in Egypt. We live in an amazing world.

Marwa, your sense of humor comes out in your posts. You sound like a

jolly person, and it is a pleasure to know you.

Sue

On Friday, July 7, 2006, at 04:36 AM, sicsica2000 wrote:

>

> I changed the group from RA-support to Nonsmoking-support (lol).

> Thanks guys for ur concern i really appreciate it. Im sorry if i

> made all think that im uncomfortable or mad, im not, u all are right

> and ur point of view is right.

>

> Sue, im sorry if my reply sounded harsh or impolite i really didnt

> mean it. Plz accept my apology.

[Guest guest]

That's a good new name for the group, " NonSmoking-Support " ! LOL

As for the story about Betty and Ann, it's 100% true and happened this last

Sunday morning. Had Ann been willing to go to the hospital when she was told

to, she would be alive today. That may not have been an answer for her in

the long run, but we can only look back and say that she's better off now

that she doesn't need the oxygen bottles any more. One of my aunts was

carrying an oxygen bottle around with her and still smoking like there would

be no tomorrow. Sometimes it's too hard to quit.

If " Money does fix everything " , I need proof. I've not seen it to be a

possibility for me. Give me an example, please.

Dennis in Eastexas

" You can't always fix it with money "

[ ] Re: smoking

>

> I changed the group from RA-support to Nonsmoking-support (lol).

>

> Thanks for the lovely story of Betty and Ann, i didnt really know

> what to make with it. By the way " Money does fix everything honey " .

>

> Thanks guys for everything.

>

> Marwa

[Guest guest]

Hey Sue,

The pleasure is mine and no i didnt thought that any one is

ridiculing me (What does that mean any way??) and this is actually

the only reason for not thinking of that (lol).

U wont imagine how this group emails made me happy (sometimes

it scared me to death) but its happy to know that ur not invisible.

P.S. im not in Egypt now im in Dubai.

P.S.2 Do u think i need grammer lessons?

Marwa

> >

> > I changed the group from RA-support to Nonsmoking-support

(lol).

> > Thanks guys for ur concern i really appreciate it. Im sorry if i

> > made all think that im uncomfortable or mad, im not, u all are

right

> > and ur point of view is right.

> >

> > Sue, im sorry if my reply sounded harsh or impolite i really

didnt

> > mean it. Plz accept my apology.

>

[Guest guest]

Marwa,

To ridicule means to make fun of, to laugh at, to mock. People on this

list do not ridicule other members; anyway, I have never know it to

happen.

I guess it must be another member who lives in Egypt. Or did I just

make that up, LOL? I had to look up Dubai to see where it was. My

geography skills are not very good. I see that it is in the United Arab

Emirates. Am I correct in assuming it is a city?

As a former English teacher, I think your English is very good for

someone whose first language is something else. You express yourself

very well in English.

We don't mean to scare you to death. There is life after RA. I am on

Enbrel, and I don't have much pain at all. I know that I'm lucky in

that respect.

Sue

On Saturday, July 8, 2006, at 11:42 AM, sicsica2000 wrote:

>

> Hey Sue,

>

> The pleasure is mine and no i didnt thought that any one is

> ridiculing me (What does that mean any way??) and this is actually

> the only reason for not thinking of that (lol).

>

> U wont imagine how this group emails made me happy (sometimes

> it scared me to death) but its happy to know that ur not invisible.

>

> P.S. im not in Egypt now im in Dubai.

> P.S.2 Do u think i need grammer lessons?

> Marwa

>

[Guest guest]

>

> That's a good new name for the group, " NonSmoking-Support " ! LOL

>

> As for the story about Betty and Ann, it's 100% true and happened

this last

> Sunday morning. Had Ann been willing to go to the hospital when she

was told

> to, she would be alive today. That may not have been an answer for

her in

> the long run, but we can only look back and say that she's better

off now

> that she doesn't need the oxygen bottles any more. One of my aunts

was

> carrying an oxygen bottle around with her and still smoking like

there would

> be no tomorrow. Sometimes it's too hard to quit.

>

> If " Money does fix everything " , I need proof. I've not seen it to

be a

> possibility for me. Give me an example, please.

>

> Dennis in Eastexas

> " You can't always fix it with money "

>

> [ ] Re: smoking

>

>

> >

> > I changed the group from RA-support to Nonsmoking-support (lol).

> >

> > Thanks for the lovely story of Betty and Ann, i didnt really

know

> > what to make with it. By the way " Money does fix everything

honey " .

> >

> > Thanks guys for everything.

> >

> > Marwa

>

Marwa,,

When everything is all said and done we are all here to support one

another. We are happy that you are here, and hope that you will find

friends here.And some answers to your questions. Funny...but I

thought you were in Egypt tooo!! Guess I don't know my geography

after all these years..or sommewhere along the line the " fog "

overcame me again!jenna

[Guest guest]

Jenna,

Dont worry the fog didnt overcame u again (lol), im from egypt but im

working in Dubai and im happy too for having u all as friends.

Marwa

> >

> Marwa,,

> When everything is all said and done we are all here to support one

> another. We are happy that you are here, and hope that you will find

> friends here.And some answers to your questions. Funny...but I

> thought you were in Egypt tooo!! Guess I don't know my geography

> after all these years..or sommewhere along the line the " fog "

> overcame me again!jenna

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Sue,

I was sure that u must be a teacher, u have the " teachers

attitude " , u know how teachers always listen and they seems like

agreeing but in the end i find myself doing what they want and

feeling very happy and proud of my self!!!!!!! and english teachers

were my Angels (thats a good nickname), actually english was my

favorite subject (u watch ur favorite movies, listen to ur favorite

songs, read some books and novels and now u r ready for an english

test)

U r not making anything up (lol), im Egyptian but im working in

Dubai (which is a city in UAE) but most of the peoples know UAE as

Dubai cuz its very famous.

Im happy that u dont suffer much pain, i dont suffer that much

too, its just the fatigue cuz i also work 16 hrs/day and i cant

sleep more than 4 hrs (which is not related to RA, its just i feel

guilty if i sleep more, lol).

Marwa

[Guest guest]

>

> If " Money does fix everything " , I need proof. I've not seen it to

be a

> possibility for me. Give me an example, please.

>

> Dennis in Eastexas

> " You can't always fix it with money "

I consider my self an example that " Money does fix everything " .

Before i was diagnosed with RA i was working in 1 full time job and

2 part time jobs just to get my essintial needs (food, cloths,

education), when i started feeling sick i had to wait more than 4

months and cut some of those essintial things just to go to a doctor

and buy the medicens.

Now im working with good salary that at least i can sleep at night

knowing that if sowething happened to me i have the money to go to

the hospital and be treated like a human.

Money is the most important thing when ur living in one of the 3rd

world countries. Its who u r and how u will be treated. Its sad but

its true.

Marwa

[Guest guest]

--Marwa,

I'm Happy to hear that I haven been " overcome by the fog " ....at least

the fact that you are from Egypt sunk in! Probably because that is

somewhere that I have always wanted to travel! I had a friend who

went there and the pictures were wonderful..I want to see it too!

jenna

- In , " sicsica2000 " <sicsica2000@...>

wrote:

>

>

> Jenna,

>

> Dont worry the fog didnt overcame u again (lol), im from egypt but

im

> working in Dubai and im happy too for having u all as friends.

>

> Marwa

>

>

>

> > >

>

>

> > Marwa,,

> > When everything is all said and done we are all here to support

one

> > another. We are happy that you are here, and hope that you will

find

> > friends here.And some answers to your questions. Funny...but I

> > thought you were in Egypt tooo!! Guess I don't know my geography

> > after all these years..or sommewhere along the line the " fog "

> > overcame me again!jenna

> >

>