Re: Other PEMF machines...

[Guest guest]

Rife therapy using a plasma tube can treat the entire body at

once. How many cubic inches can that small EMpulse treat? That

guy has a lot of nerve making a blanket state like this. And does

their device help with countless conditions? (as does

Rife/frequency therapy).

JF> Answer: Rife was a revolutionary in his time, but his technology has

JF> fallen behind state of the art understanding of electromolecular

JF> medicine. The Rife device bottom line is: old technology at a much

JF> higher price.

JF> We characterize EMpulse as " portable, affordable, and highly effective. "

Bil

PC 1000

M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator

http://magpulser.com

Mammoth Lakes, CA

Tuesday, September 20, 2005, 11:57:18 AM, you wrote:

JF> Hi group,

JF> Some may remember my question about how the www.em-probe.com device compares

JF> to the Rife technology and whether it is something that might help my

JF> husband with his arthritic hip. Thanks so much to those that answered. Just

JF> wanted to post what they told me in answer to my question that was posed at

JF> their Ask Dr. Gordon section. Here is a copy of my question and their

JF> answer. Any thoughts? JoyceF

JF> " Thank you for the following question:

JF> Hi Dr. Gordon,

JF> I'm becoming increasingly interested in the Rife Technology. Just

JF> wondering how, if at all, this em-probe compares to a Rife machine.

JF> Thanks so much for you answer. JoyceF

JF> Answer: Rife was a revolutionary in his time, but his technology has

JF> fallen behind state of the art understanding of electromolecular

JF> medicine. The Rife device bottom line is: old technology at a much

JF> higher price.

JF> We characterize EMpulse as " portable, affordable, and highly effective. "

JF>

[Guest guest]

Well, at least the Em-Pulse device has some clinical tests and has been

found efffective for some things, AND, it doesn't cost a lot.

Personally, I'll take plasma lamps anytime, but I do believe the pulsed

magnetic field devices have a place too. I've seen double blind studies

from Journal of Pain Management wherein strong magnetic pads were found

to reduce ankle pain for many months. At the price, the em-pulse device

is pretty simple; may still work fine for the things its intended for.

- Dave

Bil Green wrote:

> Rife therapy using a plasma tube can treat the entire body at

> once. How many cubic inches can that small EMpulse treat? That

> guy has a lot of nerve making a blanket state like this. And does

> their device help with countless conditions? (as does

> Rife/frequency therapy).

>

> JF> Answer: Rife was a revolutionary in his time, but his technology has

> JF> fallen behind state of the art understanding of electromolecular

> JF> medicine. The Rife device bottom line is: old technology at a much

> JF> higher price.

> JF> We characterize EMpulse as " portable, affordable, and highly effective. "

>

> Bil

>

> PC 1000

> M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator

> http://magpulser.com

> Mammoth Lakes, CA

>

[Guest guest]

HI Joyce,

I went to that Dr. Gordon site and read exactly as you posted

he said. While their technology may be effective in the specialized area, which

I do not knock, it is always good to see people in different situations being

helped.

However, I think his statement regarding Rife or frequency technology having

fallen behind is way out of line and, in my opinion, financially motivated, else

he is blinded by his product line.

Notice how he slides from knocking frequency therapy right into how portable,

affordable and highly effective

his line is.

Highly effective, sure, in his specialized area, what about other areas his

device can't begin to work in at a fixed frequency.

I also noticed in reading other answers to other questions, he was being very

careful to not give FDA a shot at nailing him and in cases where those answers

could be almost borderline (I know he has to be careful) that he took the shot

at Rife (I thought that was cold, he knows the work others are doing with Rife

or frequency therapy related), as though such a shot would please the FDA

masters he must please.

Now, let's look at his prices, true not too high but not a bargain either, for

it's limits.

Pretty package but really simple timing circuit, switching transistor,

transducer.

This is apples and oranges; Look at the difference in electronics for a plasma

system.

Frequency generator, much larger power supply, transmitter of broad bandwidth,

high power amplifier, matching device, discharge tube, frequency flexibility.

Also, I noticed that he did not really answer your question.

You indicate you are interested in the Rife Technology (AKA implying frequency

technology) and ask how does his device compare to it.

As he has stated Rife was revolutionary and that the technology has fallen

behind state of the art, this infers

that he must know all frequency or related can do,including what it or something

else can do that was state of the art. Please notice that while you told us that

you considered using his product on your husband's arthritic hip, you did not

tell Dr. Gordon this intended usage.

So, how could he know that Rife or frequency therapy (inferred) could not be as

good as his product, when you had not stated your treatment issue?

Yet, he states the Rife device (frequency therapy) bottom line is old technology

at a much higher price, going on to say his is portable, affordable and highly

effective.

For what condition? He never knew your problem!

Well, not exactly. He could deduct you were at a cross roads of where to spend

your money and was happy to use his answer to bias you and others interested in

frequency or Rife, that his was the better deal and more current in technology,

which I doubt.

He stays in a certain frequency range, limited. There are only so many ways to

turn a transistor on and off with fast rise time. What state of the art!

I guess if he wanted, he could sell used cars that Grandma only drove on Sunday,

too. Seems perfect for the job.

Mike

Other PEMF machines...

Hi group

Some may remember my question about how the www.em-probe.com device compares

to the Rife technology and whether it is something that might help my

husband with his arthritic hip. Thanks so much to those that answered. Just

wanted to post what they told me in answer to my question that was posed at

their Ask Dr. Gordon section. Here is a copy of my question and their

answer. Any thoughts? JoyceF

" Thank you for the following question:

Hi Dr. Gordon,

I'm becoming increasingly interested in the Rife Technology. Just

wondering how, if at all, this em-probe compares to a Rife machine.

Thanks so much for you answer. JoyceF

Answer: Rife was a revolutionary in his time, but his technology has

fallen behind state of the art understanding of electromolecular

medicine. The Rife device bottom line is: old technology at a much

higher price.

We characterize EMpulse as " portable, affordable, and highly effective. "

[Guest guest]

I've tried several types of plasma machines and pad rife machines.

The best rife machine I've ever tried (and in best I mean the one that

has had the best physical results when rifing) is the Wade Ultra

10b ultra-sound rife device. Sure, it only treats a small area, but

I've killed more things with it than I have with any other plasma

device. Not to knock of plasma machines of course. Perhaps if you

didn't mind the risk, you could somehow make a frequency input that

sweep scans similar to the Wade machine (including the fourior

tramsforms that are not reachable by standard frequency input methods)

and attach to a machine like Bruce Stenulson's EM rife device, and

perhaps you'd get similar results (although admittedly this is very

dangerous in my opinion).

[Guest guest]

Mike wrote:

> HI Joyce,

> I went to that Dr. Gordon site and read exactly as you

posted he said. While their technology may be effective in the specialized area,

which I do not knock, it is always good to see people in different situations

being helped.

> However, I think his statement regarding Rife or frequency technology having

fallen behind is way out of line and, in my opinion, financially motivated, else

he is blinded by his product line.

> Notice how he slides from knocking frequency therapy right into how portable,

affordable and highly effective

> his line is.

<snip>

Well said Mike! What qualifies this guy to make such a statement? Does

he suppose that because he's a doctor he's an expert in everything? Why

didn't he recount the experimental research that he did to arrive at his

conclusion that Rife is old and obsolete? I think that I've

sufficiently argued elsewhere that Rife's work has not been completely

reproduced, so it's fraudulent for someone to claim that Rife is

obsolete when they don't have a Rife machine to evaluate. From the

quick survey of that web site, his device is for aches and pain and

things of that nature, not catastrophic disease like cancer and other

infectious diseases. I think that he (and others) realizes that in its

field of application Rife is still the gold standard, and so the only

way he can promote his little toy for aches and pains and make it seem

better than what it is, is to knock Rife.

Regards,