Rife-Bare or Rife, which is better?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Our frequency machines produce a Resonance Initiated Field Effect, which is a

R.I.F.E. device. But they sure aren't Dr Rife's machines.

Ken

Re: Rife-Bare or Rife, which is better?

Bil Green wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> How can we tell which is the best Rife machine when almost no one

> on these lists reports their successes or failures? And no one

> buys one of each machine to test them (tens of thousands of

> dollars).

<snip>

I have a more fundamental question:

How can we tell which is the best Rife machine, when at present there's

no such thing as a " Rife " machine?

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Does it work?

Angie

Ken Uzzell wrote:

Hi ,

Our frequency machines produce a Resonance Initiated Field Effect, which is a

R.I.F.E. device. But they sure aren't Dr Rife's machines.

Ken

Re: Rife-Bare or Rife, which is better?

Bil Green wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> How can we tell which is the best Rife machine when almost no one

> on these lists reports their successes or failures? And no one

> buys one of each machine to test them (tens of thousands of

> dollars).

<snip>

I have a more fundamental question:

How can we tell which is the best Rife machine, when at present there's

no such thing as a " Rife " machine?

Regards,

[Guest guest]

I dn't feel qualified to answer this question but here is my view

anyway.To my knowledge no one has been able to replicate an

original Rife machine.There has been 2 different paths in the Rife

world.One with plasma tubes and one with frequency delivered through

pads.I believe both have a great value.But now that know frequency

affects virus/bacteria/fungi we have to find a way to identify the

MOR related to same.

We have heard of microscopes that would match Dr.Royal Rife's

precision.If indeed such microscopes do exist,why are they not at

our/public/

gov.'s disposal ,I suspect that if I wanted a sample of blood

analyzed,and I could pay for same,the service should be available.It is

very much what

would be expected of this community,the Rife community,If You Build

It,They,Will Come.

Regards

Guy

McGuire wrote:

>How does Bare Rife diffe from a regular Rife machine?

>Which is the best Rife Machine? Which is better and

>why?

>

>Angie

>

>--- Ken Uzzell wrote:

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>

>>Hi ,

>>

>>The B/R is awesome for Lyme, don't worry about

>>running multiple frequencies otherwise you'll OD on

>>the Herx. The RF plasma machines hit Lyme hard, very

>>very hard.

>>

>>I haven't tried the EMEM, but they are cheaper and

>>also recommended for Lyme if the price of the B/R is

>>abit out of reach. I am building an EMEM and will be

>>testing it on some clients with Lyme. A client got a

>>tick bite 10 weeks ago and came up with a few

>>bull-eyes rashes, we are waiting for his blood

>>tests.

>>

>>If you go for the B/R, take it real easy on the

>>first go, like only run a 10 minute session and wait

>>a day or two, you'll know what I mean. Soon, you'll

>>be running 1 hour sessions and your life will do a

>>complete turn around. Never underestimate the power

>>of the B/R, and never go too long on it - it kicks

>>disease very hard.

>>

>>A 2 or 3 hour session is far to long in my opinion

>>for Lyme. The dynamics of plasma verse electrodes

>>are completely different. I've run two hour sessions

>>for cancer, but I'd never do this for Lyme.

>>

>>Put as much money as you can afford on the machine,

>>you will be repaid a thousand fold in the return of

>>quality of life and you'll have one of the best

>>health investments currently on this planet.

>>

>>If I was in a position to purchase a new B/R, I'd

>>probably go for the 300 watt U tube - this is one

>>mean healing machine. Get ready for a brand new

>>life!

>>

>>Regards

>>Ken Uzzell

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Rife-Bare unit advice......F-1000

>>possibly?

>> >Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:08:25 +0000

>> >Hi I,ve got a GB4000 and am getting a Doug

>>Coil soon.I have lyme with

>> >a host of opportunistic infections including most

>>recently possibly West

>> >Nile.i have been using the GB4000 for about one

>>year and although it has

>> >got me off antibiotics I am still mostly disabled

>>and sometimes feel i,m

>> >just chasing the infections around my body.I,m

>>interested in the Rife-Bare

>> >machines,I guess I feel I need to hit the bugs in

>>a different way with lots

>> >of power.I need and seem to have the ability to

>>use the GB4000 several

>> >hours per day.Any advice on a complimentary

>>machine(ie. Rife-Bare)would be

>> >greatly appreciated. I also use the

>>frequencies in groups as

>> >opposed to one at a time because I have so many

>>different infections to

>> >treat and this saves time.....has anyone found

>>this to be ineffective?

>> >

>>Yours truly

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[Guest guest]

write dale.fawcett@... he works with dr jeff southerland and

;has built a rife machine specially for llyme disease...and the

feedback is excellent!!!! i am on a new computer and am having trouble

getting stuff off the old one, or i'd send you more specifics....tell

him i suggested you contact him...he is sooo nice and will explain it

all to you....please pass this on to others....

blessings!

ariella

> Thank you Ken. I am currently trying to educate myself on the Rife

> and Rife/Bare machines for my Lyme disease. I have downloaded a ton of

> information, and several of the manufacturers have also sent me

> information. I am feeling a bit overwhelmed, different frequency

> generators, plasma tubes, gases in plasma tubes, current and hand-held

> vs photons.... They are expensive and without seeing what they look

> like or how they work, how does one decide? Who makes the " 300 watt U

> tube? " By any chance are you in the Washington, DC area? Is there a

> second-hand market? Is anyone renting them? Any help more than

> already provided would be greatly appreciated.

> Gayle

>

> Re: Rife-Bare or Rife, which is better?

>

>

> How does Bare Rife diffe from a regular Rife machine?

> Which is the best Rife Machine? Which is better and

> why?

>

> Angie

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie,

Yes, buy a plasma system.

There are many around and the EM7V as supported by Dr Loyd is good value.

Bruce Stenulson also has an extremely popular one as does Mike from

TrueRife.com.

Rife-Labs.com have a double tube system an export all over the world.

There are many out there and someone should make a comprehensive list of all the

vendors.

I don't see this as trouble for them with your FDA, as the FDA would already

know of all the frequency therapy vendors anyway. What we need is a list that

the public can easily access.

At the end of the day it seems to come down to price and features. I would

personally want a plasma frequency device that can be driven by an external FG.

I think Dave's web site http://www.dfe.com has a list of most of the vendors he

considers good value.

http://www.holman.net is also a great source for a variety of DIY high voltage

plasma units. Do you know a handy man that could build one for you ?

I'm not expert enough to know all the differences, some say the EMEM's are

better than the B/R's and other's say the B/R's are better than the EMEM's.

I'm building an EMEM and later an EM7V, because I can, they are easier to

construct and cheaper. Plus there are numerous EMEM owners that are prepared to

help me get my machine right. And when you new to electronics like I am, this is

important.

The RF plasma units are out of my league, plus I already have one. It's time to

look at other machines for evaluation for my use.

Regards

Ken

Re: Re: Rife-Bare or Rife, which is better?

HI,

Should I get a plasma unit? Where can I get one and is it safe?

Angie

Bil Green wrote:

Hi ,

At least some of the so-called Rife machines we do have are

working extremely well for many people. Ken sure has good results

with the plasma unit he often uses with his clients.

I think we using devices or procedures which are close enough to

what Rife was doing to say that the technology at least works.

The plasma tube technology were are using has to be named

something. May as well call it Rife, and give him the credit (or

Rife/Crane, as with pad devices).

Bil

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Mammoth Lakes, CA

Thursday, August 25, 2005, 2:23:14 PM, you wrote:

JR> Bil Green wrote:

>> Hi ,

>>

>> How can we tell which is the best Rife machine when almost no one

>> on these lists reports their successes or failures? And no one

>> buys one of each machine to test them (tens of thousands of

>> dollars).

JR> <snip>

JR> I have a more fundamental question:

JR> How can we tell which is the best Rife machine, when at present there's

JR> no such thing as a " Rife " machine?

JR> Regards,

JR>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Ken,

I wonder if these plasma machines are like the Bare/Rife devices? How do they

differ in a basic and more subtle way.

I am interested in treating, viruses ( virii) and possible types of cancers

amongst others.

How does the plasma work on these vs the Rife or Bare/Rife?

Not to put anyone down , but just to understand the basic features.

I am also wondering about the FREX and how this compares to QX and the UEB

systems. These are computer based. I think QX can do diagnostics. Does the

plasma do diagnostics?

Angie

Ken Uzzell wrote:

Hi Angie,

Yes, buy a plasma system.

There are many around and the EM7V as supported by Dr Loyd is good value.

Bruce Stenulson also has an extremely popular one as does Mike from

TrueRife.com.

Rife-Labs.com have a double tube system an export all over the world.

There are many out there and someone should make a comprehensive list of all the

vendors.

I don't see this as trouble for them with your FDA, as the FDA would already

know of all the frequency therapy vendors anyway. What we need is a list that

the public can easily access.

At the end of the day it seems to come down to price and features. I would

personally want a plasma frequency device that can be driven by an external FG.

I think Dave's web site http://www.dfe.com has a list of most of the vendors he

considers good value.

http://www.holman.net is also a great source for a variety of DIY high voltage

plasma units. Do you know a handy man that could build one for you ?

I'm not expert enough to know all the differences, some say the EMEM's are

better than the B/R's and other's say the B/R's are better than the EMEM's.

I'm building an EMEM and later an EM7V, because I can, they are easier to

construct and cheaper. Plus there are numerous EMEM owners that are prepared to

help me get my machine right. And when you new to electronics like I am, this is

important.

The RF plasma units are out of my league, plus I already have one. It's time to

look at other machines for evaluation for my use.

Regards

Ken

Re: Re: Rife-Bare or Rife, which is better?

HI,

Should I get a plasma unit? Where can I get one and is it safe?

Angie

Bil Green wrote:

Hi ,

At least some of the so-called Rife machines we do have are

working extremely well for many people. Ken sure has good results

with the plasma unit he often uses with his clients.

I think we using devices or procedures which are close enough to

what Rife was doing to say that the technology at least works.

The plasma tube technology were are using has to be named

something. May as well call it Rife, and give him the credit (or

Rife/Crane, as with pad devices).

Bil

PC 1000

M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator

http://magpulser.com

Mammoth Lakes, CA

Thursday, August 25, 2005, 2:23:14 PM, you wrote:

JR> Bil Green wrote:

>> Hi ,

>>

>> How can we tell which is the best Rife machine when almost no one

>> on these lists reports their successes or failures? And no one

>> buys one of each machine to test them (tens of thousands of

>> dollars).

JR> <snip>

JR> I have a more fundamental question:

JR> How can we tell which is the best Rife machine, when at present there's

JR> no such thing as a " Rife " machine?

JR> Regards,

JR>

[Guest guest]

danielle lawless wrote:

> ok

> plse give your definition of a rife that not happening

> now.

> Dan

" Rife " is a specific subset of the larger field of frequency therapy,

that uses specific frequencies to destroy specific microorganisms, and

verifies such destruction under a microscope and with other laboratory

methods first. To date, I haven't seen anyone truly demonstrate this

MOR effect. Jim Bare and a few others using his device have probably

come closest, and if I understand correctly, the Lyme people may have

done so with the " Doug device " , but I haven't seen any rigorous

confirmation with any device. I've been arguing this fundamental point

for years, my words obviously falling on deaf ears.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Bil Green wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> At least some of the so-called Rife machines we do have are

> working extremely well for many people. Ken sure has good results

> with the plasma unit he often uses with his clients.

>

> I think we using devices or procedures which are close enough to

> what Rife was doing to say that the technology at least works.

>

> The plasma tube technology were are using has to be named

> something. May as well call it Rife, and give him the credit (or

> Rife/Crane, as with pad devices).

>

> Bil

I don't think I've ever challenged the claims that the machines we use

today " work " . The issue isn't whether our machine " work " , but whether

they work in the same manner that Rife's machines worked, and we can

prove it in the same manner that he did. I don't agree that it is a

credit to Rife to call our machines after him, when they're not. You

wouldn't appreciate being called anything other than Bil, would you?

Would you appreciate being called Bull, because " it's close enough " ?

Calling things by their proper names is important because it is what

differentiates them. We can use the general term car, but it would be

improper to call a Ford, a Chevy, even if they both get you to work on time.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

McGuire wrote:

> HI,

> Should I get a plasma unit? Where can I get one and is it safe?

>

The decision to get a plasma unit depends on several factors that match

your needs, such as budget, technical abilities, usability, portability,

radio interference concerns, etc. The various factors will be different

for each person.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Rife was alive until the 1970's and helped Crane somewhat

develop his pad devices. Did anyone hear of him complaining about

the so-called Rife machines using his name? The name Rife just

stuck. What can you do?

I'm sure we all feel differently about this. I think it's OK to

say that an effective plasma tube system (especially one that use

an RF carrier) is a " Rife type " machine.

This would put it into a certain classification, not necessarily

exactly the same as his original devices. We don't all think

alike and some would see this differently than others.

Bil

PC 1000

M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator

http://magpulser.com

Mammoth Lakes, CA

Friday, August 26, 2005, 1:40:15 AM, you wrote:

JR> Bil Green wrote:

>> Hi ,

>>

>> At least some of the so-called Rife machines we do have are

>> working extremely well for many people. Ken sure has good results

>> with the plasma unit he often uses with his clients.

>>

>> I think we using devices or procedures which are close enough to

>> what Rife was doing to say that the technology at least works.

>>

>> The plasma tube technology were are using has to be named

>> something. May as well call it Rife, and give him the credit (or

>> Rife/Crane, as with pad devices).

>>

>> Bil

JR> I don't think I've ever challenged the claims that the machines we use

JR> today " work " . The issue isn't whether our machine " work " , but whether

JR> they work in the same manner that Rife's machines worked, and we can

JR> prove it in the same manner that he did. I don't agree that it is a

JR> credit to Rife to call our machines after him, when they're not. You

JR> wouldn't appreciate being called anything other than Bil, would you?

JR> Would you appreciate being called Bull, because " it's close enough " ?

JR> Calling things by their proper names is important because it is what

JR> differentiates them. We can use the general term car, but it would be

JR> improper to call a Ford, a Chevy, even if they both get you to work on time.

JR> Regards,

JR>

JR>

[Guest guest]

Mike wrote:

<snip>

> I have a more fundamental question:

>

> How can we tell which is the best Rife machine, when at present there's

> no such thing as a " Rife " machine?

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> You bring up a good point, if you define that requirement as being operated

by Rife or Rife built (or built for him). Would you extend your requirement to

one that outputs non-modulated, direct RF (At the desired MOR) in the frequency

range Rife used and was delivered through a plasma with a low pressure discharge

tube as part of the radiating system, exactly as Rife did?

>

> As you know, the closest commercial current popular RF delivery system is a

fixed carrier, not a known MOR in itself, modulated with harmonics of, or

possible direct MOR's and that fixed carrier is delivered via a matching network

to a plasma tube, along with the modulated desired frequencies, sidebands and

harmonics.

>

> So, what would you define this as: A system which delivers non-modulated

direct RF only in any frequency range Rife is known to have used, with

adjustable sweeping and that system delivers the RF output through a tracking,

matching network into a discharge tube, which is driven into the plasma

discharge state by the RF?

>

> Some have extended the range of frequencies beyond even what was technically

possible in Rife's years.

>

> In the end, perhaps it is all best termed " Frequency therapy " because that

is the end result.

>

> Still, I am curious how you define a Rife machine; I have enjoyed reading

your thoughts in the past and look forward to them again.

>

> Regards,

>

> Mike

I think I've softened my stance a little over the years, but my

definition of a Rife machine is any machine that can consistently and

reproducibly destroy specific microorganisms with specific frequencies,

and demonstrate it in vitro. I don't care if it uses a plasma tube or

not, or if it uses modulation or not, or if it uses square waves or sine

waves, or what range of frequencies it uses. It's not about the

hardware, but is about the objective demonstration of a specific effect.

Whenever I report on a new so-called " Rife " machine to my research

associate , the first, and usually only question he asks is: " Does

it blow bugs under the scope? " When the answer is the usual no, he

scoffs and says, " then what are we talking about here? " The

demonstration of the MOR effect is the 'Gold Standard' in establishing

whether a particular machine is " Rife " or not. Clinical efficacy is not

the deciding factor.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Ken Uzzell wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Our frequency machines produce a Resonance Initiated Field Effect, which is a

R.I.F.E. device. But they sure aren't Dr Rife's machines.

I'm aware of that, and with all due respect to Jim, I've never liked the

way this acronym makes an end run around the need to demonstrate the MOR

effect.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

McGuire wrote:

> Does it work?

>

These discussion lists exist because the machines we use do work, but

then you have to specify what you mean by " work " . I don't recall if

you've mentioned what you're working on, but for the sake of discussion

here, let's say you had cancer: do our machines destroy the virus-sized

microorganism that is the fundamental cause of cancer, and thereby

" cure " the cancer? The answer to that would have to presently be no,

because nobody has objectively proved it; and that's despite the fact

that many people do get positive clinical results with cancer. Like I

said, it depends on what you mean by " work " .

Regards,

[Guest guest]

The St Hilaires wrote:

> I dn't feel qualified to answer this question but here is my view

> anyway.To my knowledge no one has been able to replicate an

> original Rife machine.There has been 2 different paths in the Rife

> world.One with plasma tubes and one with frequency delivered through

> pads.I believe both have a great value.But now that know frequency

> affects virus/bacteria/fungi we have to find a way to identify the

> MOR related to same.

> We have heard of microscopes that would match Dr.Royal Rife's

> precision.If indeed such microscopes do exist,why are they not at

> our/public/

> gov.'s disposal ,I suspect that if I wanted a sample of blood

> analyzed,and I could pay for same,the service should be available.It is

> very much what

> would be expected of this community,the Rife community,If You Build

> It,They,Will Come.

> Regards

> Guy

There are many microorganisms that don't require special high power

microscopes to work with, but can be worked with standard microscopes.

If I understand correctly, the Lyme people did exactly that, and I would

say that this is the reason why they seem to be getting such good and

consistent results.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie,

I know the RF plasma units work, I have one and see some very sick people. And

my machine is old technology.

Some close friends on this group use the EMEM systems and they get faster cancer

remissions than I do. But they can't talk about it in public, for they live in

the US and it is dangerous to make medical claims there with these machines.

Your FDA would hunt them down and run them out of business. Do you see the

problem. But we all get remissions. This is what is important, all the machines

DO WORK!!! You will not be disappointed in a B/R or EMEM Plasma system.

A few messages back I saw reference to a Plasma Plus unit. Char who recommends

this is a top expert in frequency therapy and part of the back bone of this

industry. The plasma plus would leave my machine standing in the shadows. Infact

all the machines discussed here so far would be better than mine I believe.

When Char speaks, the forum listens, as it does when Dr Bare and Dr Loyd speak -

these are some of the poineers of this industry and they will not lead you

astray. You can place complete faith and confidence in them and the frequency

machines they recommend.

I didn't know about the PlasmaPlus machine, I have lots of work to do and don't

get to follow up on all news. I just visited the site

http://www.plasmaplus.net/ The Plasma Plus is probably the Cadillac of

EMEM3s. It looks easy to use and appears portible (important for me). It runs

all the programs and allows you to use new frequencies when they are found. This

is very important. The specifications of this machine met all my requirements

and it does a lot more and what is so important, it is easy to use.

You want an easy to use machine for they days your not feeling well. If the

machine is too complex, then you wont feel like using it, especially if your

feeling crook. The Plasma Plus looks easy to use, yet is top in features and

it's specifications are fantastic. This machine will not let you down. I would

buy it right now if I had the funds and I would feel confident taking into a

pallitive care ward to do work.

You can't go wrong with the people in this forum, if someone comes along with

something shonky, they are soon taken to task and the whole forum knows who to

avoid.

As Bruce Stenulson would say!

Be Healthy

Regards

Ken

Re: Rife-Bare or Rife, which is better?

Bil Green wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> How can we tell which is the best Rife machine when almost no one

> on these lists reports their successes or failures? And no one

> buys one of each machine to test them (tens of thousands of

> dollars).

<snip>

I have a more fundamental question:

How can we tell which is the best Rife machine, when at present there's

no such thing as a " Rife " machine?

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Frex is designed as an introduction to frequency therapy. And for people like me

at the bottom end of the market. I'll use it to run my home made EMEM and my

cheap electrode circuit. People who have the funds will buy the more

professional FGs.

Regards

Ken

Re: Re: Rife-Bare or Rife, which is better?

HI,

Should I get a plasma unit? Where can I get one and is it safe?

Angie

Bil Green wrote:

Hi ,

At least some of the so-called Rife machines we do have are

working extremely well for many people. Ken sure has good results

with the plasma unit he often uses with his clients.

I think we using devices or procedures which are close enough to

what Rife was doing to say that the technology at least works.

The plasma tube technology were are using has to be named

something. May as well call it Rife, and give him the credit (or

Rife/Crane, as with pad devices).

Bil

PC 1000

M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator

http://magpulser.com

Mammoth Lakes, CA

Thursday, August 25, 2005, 2:23:14 PM, you wrote:

JR> Bil Green wrote:

>> Hi ,

>>

>> How can we tell which is the best Rife machine when almost no one

>> on these lists reports their successes or failures? And no one

>> buys one of each machine to test them (tens of thousands of

>> dollars).

JR> <snip>

JR> I have a more fundamental question:

JR> How can we tell which is the best Rife machine, when at present there's

JR> no such thing as a " Rife " machine?

JR> Regards,

JR>

[Guest guest]

I've tried a lot of rife machines. I think Wade's 10a and 10b

are the best so far. And I think I agree with him in that waves

generaged from plasma rife devices turn into ultrasound when they hit

the body. So, it's actually ultrasound that actually kills the bugs.

I also agree with the philosphy of the device. Hunting for

frequencies is almost impossible to do and there are some frequencies

that cannot be easily duplicated by frequency generating devices.

The only downside of this device I think is that it only treats a

local area (or maybe upside if you will).

> Hi ,

>

> Frex is designed as an introduction to frequency therapy. And for

people like me at the bottom end of the market. I'll use it to run my

home made EMEM and my cheap electrode circuit. People who have the

funds will buy the more professional FGs.

>

> Regards

> Ken

> Re: Re: Rife-Bare or Rife, which is better?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bil Green wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Rife was alive until the 1970's and helped Crane somewhat

> develop his pad devices. Did anyone hear of him complaining about

> the so-called Rife machines using his name? The name Rife just

> stuck. What can you do?

>

They didn't call them " Rife " machines back then, but simply called them

frequency devices. Dr. Gross also said that even in his drunken state,

Rife would just walk away shaking his head whenever he would hear Crane

talking to the engineers.

> I'm sure we all feel differently about this. I think it's OK to

> say that an effective plasma tube system (especially one that use

> an RF carrier) is a " Rife type " machine.

>

> This would put it into a certain classification, not necessarily

> exactly the same as his original devices. We don't all think

> alike and some would see this differently than others.

>

In the past, I've suggested that " Rife inspired " might be a fair

qualification.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

In regards to an original style Rife machine...

Something else that needs to be thought about , a Phanotron tube is a

diode. That is, it will rectify a sine wave. If one applies a sine wave

frequency across a phanotron tube - what one gets out is a 1/2 wave which

is essentially a pulse. The pulse rate is of course equal to the

applied sine wave frequency.

Further... Depending upon the orientation of the anode or cathode the pulse

can have a negative or a positive value. Opposite charges attract and like

charges repel, there is a chart showing the electrical polarity of micro

organisms as determined by Rife. Stan Truman pointed this out to me.

How all this plays out is unknown.

Jim Bare

>They didn't call them " Rife " machines back then, but simply called them

>frequency devices. Dr. Gross also said that even in his drunken state,

>Rife would just walk away shaking his head whenever he would hear Crane

>talking to the engineers.

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/26/2005 3:40:14 AM Central Standard Time,

hepcat67@... writes:

I don't think I've ever challenged the claims that the machines we use

today " work " . The issue isn't whether our machine " work " , but whether

they work in the same manner that Rife's machines worked, and we can

prove it in the same manner that he did. I don't agree that it is a

credit to Rife to call our machines after him, when they're not. You

wouldn't appreciate being called anything other than Bil, would you?

Would you appreciate being called Bull, because " it's close enough " ?

Calling things by their proper names is important because it is what

differentiates them. We can use the general term car, but it would be

improper to call a Ford, a Chevy, even if they both get you to work on time.

Regards,

I think (Dr.) Rife was a genius. First the micro scope, then the dye, then

the Rife.....May god have him a special place in heaven till he's recognized by

the medical community...(never). As smart as you think you are, he invented

all of this that we are talking about still today. I have a rife machine and

would call it nothing less than a rife machine. Dr. Rife invented it and it

works. All credit to Dr. Rife. Yes, the freq may be a little off or maybe even

the pulse rate. But who else found this out? Einstein? Eli Whitney? Columbus?

no, give credit where credit is due. .

[Guest guest]

It's very important to note if some of the non-survivors had

chemo or were in poor health to begin with.

It's hard to say that a device doesn't work if the person's

immune system was way below normal. Frequency therapy should

never be the only protocol used.

Also, not all R/B or EMEM systems are equal. Some may be

inferior. Buyer beware.

Bil

PC 1000

M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator

http://magpulser.com

Mammoth Lakes, CA

Friday, August 26, 2005, 8:22:02 PM, you wrote:

jac> In a message dated 8/26/2005 5:11:41 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

jac> ken@... writes:

jac> This is what is important, all the machines DO WORK!!! You will not be

jac> disappointed in a B/R or EMEM Plasma system.

jac> I don't mean to blow anybodies bubble here but I think I need to put in my

jac> too cents. I have also been following some cancer patients using the

Resonate

jac> Light from Canada which I believe is a Bare Rife device and they have not

all

jac> survived, even those using the most up to date model. Some others have done

jac> well. They work sometimes on some people. There is no guarantee.

jac> Barb

jac>

[Guest guest]

Hi Barb,

I thought Angie was referring to Lyme disease, not cancer.

For cancer, a whole range of protocols MUST be used, you can't just rely on a

frequency machine. That would be suicide. If people with cancer are not on a

rigid cancer plan, which includes interfacing reguarly with the monitoring power

of MD's and oncology surgery teams, then I guess the results would be poor. Rife

removed the cancers with surgery (in mice) as well as using his machine.

http://www.cancertutor.com

Frequency therapy for cancer only gets a slight mention. And surgery is heavily

suggested for brain tumors as all the alternitives are just too slow for this

potentially fatal situation.

Regards

Ken

Rife-Bare or Rife, which is better?

In a message dated 8/26/2005 5:11:41 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

ken@... writes:

This is what is important, all the machines DO WORK!!! You will not be

disappointed in a B/R or EMEM Plasma system.

I don't mean to blow anybodies bubble here but I think I need to put in my

too cents. I have also been following some cancer patients using the Resonate

Light from Canada which I believe is a Bare Rife device and they have not all

survived, even those using the most up to date model. Some others have done

well. They work sometimes on some people. There is no guarantee.

Barb

[Guest guest]

Very true,unfortunately often times people with cancer will turn to Rife

therapy as a last resort,after they have been burned by

radiation , poisoned by chemo and finally sent home to die because

nothing more could be done as far as the allopathic white coats

are concerned.It is nothing short of miraculous that some people will

still make a come back in spite of the above.

I believe that Rife therapy can be very effective, but if my life was on

the line,I would take a multifaceted approach.Rife therapy

could be used in conjunction with other therapies,such as hyperbaric

oxygen,ozone, nutrition supplementation,infrared saunas

and of course finding a qualified health care giver to monitor and

balance the implementation of therapies.It is true that one would

not necessarily know which therapy worked the best,but the goal is to

regain health and frankly if it was my life on the line,I would not

necassarily care which therapy was the best.

Regards

Guy

Bil Green wrote:

>It's very important to note if some of the non-survivors had

>chemo or were in poor health to begin with.

>

>It's hard to say that a device doesn't work if the person's

>immune system was way below normal. Frequency therapy should

>never be the only protocol used.

>

>Also, not all R/B or EMEM systems are equal. Some may be

>inferior. Buyer beware.

>

>Bil

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[Guest guest]

i've been part of (sat in a circle with leonard orr during one of my

four weeks trainings) a " rebirthing " healing a woman with terminal

breastcancer (given three weeks to live)...

in one! rebirthing, 98% remission....not easy sometimes to find a

qualified rebirther...

google for " rebirth international " ...leonard orr is the founder....

it's just a specific form of connected breathing...slight! emphasis on

the in-breath..for about two hours (varies) ...oxygenates every

cell....

ariella

> Very true,unfortunately often times people with cancer will turn to

> Rife

> therapy as a last resort,after they have been burned by

> radiation , poisoned by chemo and finally sent home to die because

> nothing more could be done as far as the allopathic white coats

> are concerned.It is nothing short of miraculous that some people will

> still make a come back in spite of the above.

> I believe that Rife therapy can be very effective, but if my life was

> on

> the line,I would take a multifaceted approach.Rife therapy

> could be used in conjunction with other therapies,such as hyperbaric

> oxygen,ozone, nutrition supplementation,infrared saunas

> and of course finding a qualified health care giver to monitor and

> balance the implementation of therapies.It is true that one would

> not necessarily know which therapy worked the best,but the goal is to

> regain health and frankly if it was my life on the line,I would not

> necassarily care which therapy was the best.

> Regards

> Guy

>

> Bil Green wrote:

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>> It's very important to note if some of the non-survivors had

>> chemo or were in poor health to begin with.

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>> It's hard to say that a device doesn't work if the person's

>> immune system was way below normal. Frequency therapy should

>> never be the only protocol used.

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>> Also, not all R/B or EMEM systems are equal. Some may be

>> inferior. Buyer beware.

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>> Bil

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[Guest guest]

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I get it and agree with you.

doug