Re: strategy for bulls

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Do you use lemon on it? Garlic? Have to put garlic on everything I make. I like to squeeze lemon over lamb before I season it and it seems to kill any harsh flavor, like with store bought lamb vs. the delicate flavor of home grown.

I may have to give it a try.

Thanks for all the info.

K.C.

Re: strategy for bulls> > > > > > > > > Hi K.C.,> > > I was told this a long time ago too.> > > You know, this has turned out to be totally false with our > herd. > > > goats and cattle. We have butchered steers and bulls in our > > front > > > pasture with all the cows looking on and they don't blink an > > > eyelash. These are steers that the cows have been grazing > and > > living > > > with for months! Our cows had to be run off because they > wanted > > to > > > get in our way and check everything out while we were gutting > and > > > skinning. And our cows are pets. I once milked our old > Jersey, > > > Ginger, right underneath a hanging deer. Right overtop of > the > > blood > > > on the floor(emergency situation, folks. I'm NOT > reccomending > > > this!), and she ate very calmly and never even looked around.> > > Same with our goats. I butcher regularly right next to the > barn, > > > where both the bucks, and does with kids can see and smell. > The > > kids > > > crowd round my feet while I do the butchering, and I have to > > > literally push my milking does away from the carcase so I can > > work. > > > Some even want to stick their heads inside the ribcage and > see > > what > > > makes them tick....<grin> Animals are funny. Anyway, my > point > > is > > > that "I think" that it isn't death and blood that animals > fear, > > but > > > violent death. Where an animal dies violently and knows its > > dying. > > > In other words, fear. I think its fear that other critters > can > > smell > > > and it affects them. I know some of you are thinking "she > > doesn't > > > think shooting in the head is "violent" death???".<grin> No, > > > actually if you've seen it done right, its not. If its aimed > > > correctly, one quick "pop", and they drop like a stone. They > > don't > > > know its coming, and there is no time to feel anything. A > few > > reflex > > > movements as blood drains, but the animal is "dead". Ok, now > > that I > > > have rambled on and probably grossed a lot of you out, I will > > shut > > > up.=)> > > > > > Dixon> > > Ozark Jewels> > > Boers, Nubians, Lamanchas, and Alpines> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!> > Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/> > > > Archive search: http://onibasu.com > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Hey Cheyenne, yes!!!! I see what you are saying now!

You are correct in that when I look at what is available A.I. these days, or when I look at other examples of what is considered quality cattle, it looks very undesireable to me (within the Dexter breed only I am talking about, I do not have experience outside of the Dexter). But yes, I really love the traits that were in the original quality herds, and I cannot find them anywhere anymore in the U.S.

It sounds like you have paid some dues, and have done your due diligence. After your explanation, I have to agree with you, especially about the farming politics.

Do you live in NZ? I know they have a different outlook on farming. Probably because of the smallness of the place.

Money drives farming these days and it is a darn shame. It actually disgusts me. Bottom line for me is quality of life, both for me and my herd. There are lines I will not cross. I'd rather go broke!!!

But I am interested in your operation. Tell more!!

Rose Marie