Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 I saw a note on one of the archives at the RealMilk site that said there was a possibility that some of Organic Valley's milk was ultrapasteurized without being labeled as such. There were no responses. I sent them an email because I think the milk tastes like it is. Anyone have inside info on this? Dan C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Yes Organic Valley is Ultra Pasteurized. It really hurts the milk. I heard they don't have to label it any more because it is becoming such a commone practice that it is expected. Blessings, -----Original Message-----From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ]On Behalf Of Tinybabe Don't know personally about Organic Valley's milk, but organic does not mean raw. Just clean of pesticides and other chemicals and hormones, etc. K.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Don't know personally about Organic Valley's milk, but organic does not mean raw. Just clean of pesticides and other chemicals and hormones, etc. K.C. Organic milk UHT ? I saw a note on one of the archives at the RealMilk site that said there was a possibility that some of Organic Valley's milk was ultrapasteurized without being labeled as such. There were no responses. I sent them an email because I think the milk tastes like it is. Anyone have inside info on this?Dan CPLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Archive search: http://onibasu.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Organic milk also doesn't necessarily come from grass-fed cows. They could be fed organic corn and soybeans and never see a blade of grass. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 LOL The first time I heard what it means to be a "free range" egg...I just had to laugh! Not what I would call the same thing. Blessings, -----Original Message-----From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ]On Behalf Of realfoodie2003Organic milk also doesn't necessarily come from grass-fed cows. They could be fed organic corn and soybeans and never see a blade of grass.Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 At 6:09 PM -0500 6/27/05, Dan Conine wrote: >I saw a note on one of the archives at the RealMilk site that said there >was a possibility that some of Organic Valley's milk was >ultrapasteurized without being labeled as such. There were no responses. >I sent them an email because I think the milk tastes like it is. Anyone >have inside info on this? Organic Valley labels their milk (or at least, the cartons sold in my area are labeled) ultra-pasteurized. So is Horizon, and the newer organic brand the grocery story has started to carry... can't remember the name, now. Disappointing! They're seemingly so conscientious in so many other areas (including, I believe, using mostly grass-fed milk, although I could be wrong about that), to subject the poor stuff to UHT abuse is sad... I use Organic Valley half-and-half because it's the only organic half-and-half available around here, and my morning coffee just isn't the same without it. But I wish it wasn't UHT. :-( Actually, for Kathy and others, the current federal organic regs do require that to be certified organic, dairy cattle must have " access to pasture. " There is, however, no requirement for how *much* access... so yeah, it can be organic and still be a long way from being grass-fed. But, it can't be *strictly* feedlot, and be certified organic. Tom -- " Man -- despite his artistic pretensions, his sophistication, and his many accomplishments -- owes his existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains. " ~ Unknown ------------------------------------------------------------------- H. Harbold P.O. Box 1537 tharbold@... Westminster, MD 21158 tom_in_md@... http://www.geocities.com/Tom_in_MD Column & Essay Collection: http://albionsmeade.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Some sites worth visiting: http://www.real-food.com http://www.realmilk.org http://www.slowfood.com http://www.westonaprice.org http://www.eatwild.com http://www.ruralheritage.com http://www.smallfarmersjournal.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Well, there's free range, like my chickens and then there's non-cooped, which means they are in big pens, packed in like sardines. You can always tell the difference in free range eggs, but when milk is organic, you don't always know if they are on grass or organic feed. K.C. RE: Re: Organic milk UHT ? LOL The first time I heard what it means to be a "free range" egg...I just had to laugh! Not what I would call the same thing. Blessings, -----Original Message-----From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ]On Behalf Of realfoodie2003Organic milk also doesn't necessarily come from grass-fed cows. They could be fed organic corn and soybeans and never see a blade of grass.KathyPLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Archive search: http://onibasu.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Just as a side note, they couldn't sell nation wide if they didn't at least pasteurize the milk. So, considering the amount of money they can make by a wide distribution plan, that's the reason for the pasteurization. K.C. Re: Organic milk UHT ? At 6:09 PM -0500 6/27/05, Dan Conine wrote:>I saw a note on one of the archives at the RealMilk site that said there>was a possibility that some of Organic Valley's milk was>ultrapasteurized without being labeled as such. There were no responses.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 I use Organic Valley > half-and-half because it's the only organic half-and-half available > around here, and my morning coffee just isn't the same without it. > But I wish it wasn't UHT. :-( Tom, I was also buying (for a hefty price!) Organic Valley half-n-half for a while. However, I found a local dairy (check your area for one) that I emailed and asked some questions - like if it is UHT (no) use of hormones (no) and if the cows are mainly on pasture (yes) and not confinement raised. As for grain, if I remember correctly, the cows don't have that much, since after milking they are turned loose to graze. Probably have some antibiotic occasionally, I didn't ask. Not labeled organic of course. But that's ok, since everything else is a plus. Now, since Jan 1st I've upped our RAW milk to 3 gallons a week and with just the 2 of us, there is only so much milk/kefir we can consume in a week's time. I skim most of the cream off for making butter, sour cream, cream cheese, whipped cream (yummy!) and if summer will ever show up here in So Oregon, ice cream. Which leaves me with a lot of extra milk. Sooo... What I do is buy our local dairy's heavy whipping cream (pint is only about $1.25) and add my extra partially skimmed raw milk to make a very reasonably priced half and half. Just thought I'd share that with anyone having extra skimmed raw milk and not knowing what to do with it. However, I won't tell you about the(cooked)pudding that I make with some of extra skimmed raw milk that makes a perfect carrier for my raw Guernsey whipped cream habit <grin> Rhonda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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