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Welcome, Sal and !

How neat that you are doing the challenge together! I think that is

wonderful and I bet you will be very successful having support right with

you all the time. I personally do have pork probably once a week. I choose

a lean piece and I personally think it is a fine choice! Good luck to you

and .

:-)

Cristi

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hey, welcome neighbour and welcome to the list! i'm in minneapolis. if y'all

are ever over this way let me know-especially if it is a free day!

best, lee

>

>Reply-To: bodyforlife

>To: bodyforlife

>Subject: Re: New Member

>Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:40:13 -0700 (PDT)

>

>Phil

>

> We live in Eau CLaire, WI. I am originally from NY,

>and my wife from Oregon. We have lived hear for the

>past 6 years. I came here for a job and I think we

>have decided to stay.

>

>Regards

>

>Sal

>

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Hi Sal & !

Your questions I think have already been answered so

I'll just say welcome :) My girls will be 7 & 4 next

month (and I have 16 month old son) and I also want to

set a good example for them. But beware...both of my

girls are " free day police " and always question if

it's my free day before I put anything in my mouth.

C3W2D1

--- Millman wrote:

> One of the major reasons for me doing mirrors yours

> except my girls are 9 and 3.

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A great site for recipes are:

http://www.bodyforlife.com/nutrition/recipes.asp?meal=3 & sr=46

Copy this to your browser, and search for a variety of recipes for

breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Most are wonderful!

Enjoy!

>

>Reply-To: bodyforlife

>To: bodyforlife

>Subject: Re: Re: New Member

>Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:15:37 +0000

>

>, Sal, Milla, Bri:

>

>Unfortunately, there really is no other list than the one in the book, but

>it's not the list that matters, it's the principle behind the list. One

>portion carbs and one portion protein do a meal make. Green veggies are,

>for

>the most part free. Stick to lean meats, poultry and fish (fish can be

>fattier) and unrefined carbs. White bread is a no-no. Whole wheat is

>better.

>A rustic multi-grain, seed-filled whole wheat is as good as you're going to

>get on the breads.

>

>Remember, a portion is the size of your fist or your palm. I use the

>thickness and width of my hand from my wrist to the place where my fingers

>start, to figure out my protein portion, and I use the volume of my fist to

>determine my carbs.

>

>Learn to love chicken breast.

>

>Beef or turkey jerky makes a great snack, if you can stand the salt.

>

>Search the group archive using the word " recipe " and you might find some

>interesting eats.

>

>Good luck on your journey.

>Les (The Professor)

>==========================================

>You're watching the Teeny Tiny TV Network!

>http://www.teenytinytv.net

>

>

> >From: milla_rally@...

> >Reply-To: bodyforlife

> >To: bodyforlife

> >Subject: Re: New Member

> >Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:06:19 -0000

> >

> >Hi Sal and ,

> >

> >I hope that you'll reach your goals! This is my first challenge too.

> >

> >I don't know of any other list with foods than the one in the book...

> >maybe someone else does? I'd like to know that too....

> >

> >Good luck! and welcome!

> >milla, sweden

>

>

>

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In a message dated 10/16/01 8:59:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

cristi@... writes:

<< dh >>

What is a dh? (I'm not gonna tell you what I thought until you tell me first!)

Kelley

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dear husband. ;o)

What is a dh? (I'm not gonna tell you what I thought until you tell me first!)

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Sorry Bri, that one wasn't me...

Les

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You're watching the Teeny Tiny TV Network!

http://www.teenytinytv.net

** To follow my BFL journey, visit

http://www.teenytinytv.net/journey.html

>From: Bri@...

>Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 01:28:26 -0000

>

>Awesome site Les....Thanks!

>

>Bri

>

>

> > A great site for recipes are:

> >

> > http://www.bodyforlife.com/nutrition/recipes.asp?meal=3 & sr=46

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I feel the same way, e! My dh is 6'2 " and weighs maybe 180. He is a

bean pole and can eat whatever the heck he wants and still loses weight. He

runs and just completed his first 25K a few weeks ago. I am proud of him

for doing that but eating whatever he wants that is just not right :-)

Congrats on only a week to go!

Cristi

Re: Re: New Member

> BTW...I'm severly jealous because my dh won't do BFL with me :-( Oh

> well...I'm over it :o)

>

> ~jaimee

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, I live in San Diego and buy my raw milk

from Organic Pastures. Before I had them ship directly

to me I purchased my milk from Jimbo's Markets.

Now, it is cheaper to have OPastures deliver a two weeks

supply than to buy it directly from the grocery store.

Raw Milk is expensive out here. Raw milk is not illegal

here in California.

Kathann

Fuhrman

from Malibu, California

I am a wanna be Raw dairy customer. I had been corresponding with Organic Pastures Dairy in Fresno, CA in particular to order their Raw Buttermilk. Unfortunately they cannot sell to markets down here where I could buy their product. I would like to see that rectified. Shipping charges direct to me are prohibitive. I believe the process of pasturizing must kill many benificial ingredients in dairy products.

I would like to add any thoughts to the group that may be helpful in changing the laws prohibiting the sale of raw dairy products in Calif. and would like to obtain sources of where I can purchase these products.

Thanks, Mike Fuhrman

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Hi Mike,

Raw dairy is legal in California!

I live in Glendale and wonder why you can't get OP in Malibu? Maybe find a health food store closer to you who would ship? or where you could pick it up? No Whole foods in Malibu?

I have both Op and Claravale Farms in Whole Foods and my local HFS.

Nonie

Fuhrman

from Malibu, California

I am a wanna be Raw dairy customer. I had been corresponding with Organic Pastures Dairy in Fresno, CA in particular to order their Raw Buttermilk. Unfortunately they cannot sell to markets down here where I could buy their product. I would like to see that rectified. Shipping charges direct to me are prohibitive. I believe the process of pasturizing must kill many benificial ingredients in dairy products.

I would like to add any thoughts to the group that may be helpful in changing the laws prohibiting the sale of raw dairy products in Calif. and would like to obtain sources of where I can purchase these products.

Thanks, Mike Fuhrman

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Welcome from a California transplant to Idaho.

I thought you could buy raw milk in Calif. Always bought it in L.A. when I lived there. Have you checked with Whole Foods, Trader Joes and some of the larger health food stores? Or is it that he can't ship the raw buttermilk? If that's the problem, get some raw milk, go to www.cheesemaking.com and get their buttermilk culture (I love it) and make your own. Works great, tastes great....just like in the old days.

K.C.

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Fuhrman

from Malibu, California

I am a wanna be Raw dairy customer. I had been corresponding with Organic Pastures Dairy in Fresno, CA in particular to order their Raw Buttermilk. Unfortunately they cannot sell to markets down here where I could buy their product. I would like to see that rectified. Shipping charges direct to me are prohibitive. I believe the process of pasturizing must kill many benificial ingredients in dairy products.

I would like to add any thoughts to the group that may be helpful in changing the laws prohibiting the sale of raw dairy products in Calif. and would like to obtain sources of where I can purchase these products.

Thanks, Mike Fuhrman

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Absolutely!! There are a few books

you should read and if it’s possible for you to get a DAN dr. for your

daughter that would be great!! Diet is usually the 1st place

to start and the most difficult to initiate but the benefits can be

immense. GF/CF or SCD diets are where a lot of people start. Then

there’s LOD, Caveman, etc., etc.

Get the book “Changing the Course of

Autism” by Jepson, MD and start looking through these websites;

Generation rescue http://www.generationrescue.org/

TACA http://www.tacanow.org/index.htm

Autism Research institute http://www.autism.com/

This is only a star, you will feel

overwhelmed with information, so take it slow and believe me, eventually it

will all sink in. This and many other yahoo lists are a great source of

parental information as well. …..Good luck,

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of maggiemacg

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007

2:45 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: New Member

Hi

I just joined the list; I have a wonderful 10yo daughter with severe

autism; she's non-verbal.

I'm trying to find things that will help her - recovery would be

wonderful, but any improvement in her ability to learn and function

would be most appreciated.

Is there anything I can do easily at home to see if this might be

worth pursuing?

Many thanks

Maggie

San Ramon CA

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Maggie --

Another wonderful book that I find very, very parent-friendly and user-friendly

is Dr.

Bock's book, HEALING THE NEW CHILDHOOK EPIDEMICS: AUTISM, ADHD,

ASTHMA, AND ALLERGIES. It presents the information in a very usable way and is

chock-

full of encouraging anecdotes from his practice. And as wrote, while

you will

surely feel a bit overwhelmed, it's OK, it's OK -- there are sites such as this

one where

generous-spirited parents will help you every step of the way.

If you can get a DAN! doctor, that would be great, since you'd have a

knowledgeable

partner on this journey.

And in the interim, you can learn about diets --

Gluten-Free/Casein-Free/Soy-Free is

probably a good place start (and even with that, you'd probably want to phase it

in slowly

-- first cutting out casein, then the glutens one by one, then soy, so even

there you don't

have to know everything all at once!)...even if you then move on to the Specific

Carbohydrate Diet or another one, based on what you start learning about your

child's

specific metabolic challenges.

Biomedical treatments can bring improved health and functioning to our children,

regardless of their age or degree of involvement -- they help to some degree in

the

majority of cases. How great that you're exploring this avenue for your

daughter! Very

best of luck!

Warmly,

Rhona

>

> Absolutely!! There are a few books you should read and if it's possible for

> you to get a DAN dr. for your daughter that would be great!! Diet is

> usually the 1st place to start and the most difficult to initiate but the

> benefits can be immense. GF/CF or SCD diets are where a lot of people

> start. Then there's LOD, Caveman, etc., etc.

>

>

>

> Get the book " Changing the Course of Autism " by Jepson, MD and start

> looking through these websites;

>

> Generation rescue http://www.generationrescue.org/

>

> TACA http://www.tacanow.org/index.htm

>

> Autism Research institute http://www.autism.com/

>

>

>

> This is only a star, you will feel overwhelmed with information, so take it

> slow and believe me, eventually it will all sink in. This and many other

> yahoo lists are a great source of parental information as well. ...Good

> luck,

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On

> Behalf Of maggiemacg

> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 2:45 PM

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Subject: New Member

>

>

>

> Hi

>

> I just joined the list; I have a wonderful 10yo daughter with severe

> autism; she's non-verbal.

>

> I'm trying to find things that will help her - recovery would be

> wonderful, but any improvement in her ability to learn and function

> would be most appreciated.

>

> Is there anything I can do easily at home to see if this might be

> worth pursuing?

>

> Many thanks

>

> Maggie

> San Ramon CA

>

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> >

> > Absolutely!! There are a few books you should read and if it's

possible for

> > you to get a DAN dr. for your daughter that would be great!!

Diet is

> > usually the 1st place to start and the most difficult to initiate

but the

> > benefits can be immense. GF/CF or SCD diets are where a lot of

people

> > start. Then there's LOD, Caveman, etc., etc.

> >

> >

> >

> > Get the book " Changing the Course of Autism " by Jepson, MD

and start

> > looking through these websites;

> >

> > Generation rescue http://www.generationrescue.org/

> >

> > TACA http://www.tacanow.org/index.htm

> >

> > Autism Research institute http://www.autism.com/

> >

> >

> >

> > This is only a star, you will feel overwhelmed with information,

so take it

> > slow and believe me, eventually it will all sink in. This and

many other

> > yahoo lists are a great source of parental information as

well. ...Good

> > luck,

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: mb12 valtrex

[mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On

> > Behalf Of maggiemacg

> > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 2:45 PM

> > To: mb12 valtrex

> > Subject: New Member

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > I just joined the list; I have a wonderful 10yo daughter with

severe

> > autism; she's non-verbal.

> >

> > I'm trying to find things that will help her - recovery would be

> > wonderful, but any improvement in her ability to learn and

function

> > would be most appreciated.

> >

> > Is there anything I can do easily at home to see if this might be

> > worth pursuing?

> >

> > Many thanks

> >

> > Maggie

> > San Ramon CA

> >

>

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Hi Bea and welcome! hope you find tons of good info here. btw are you

familiar with Stans work/research on mb12 for ADHD? there could be some

info in the Files section, alternatively read through

http://www.childrenscornerschool.com/anti-infection.htm (I believe it

is mentioned there)

natasa

>

> Hi all,

>

> My name is Bea, I live in Los Angeles, and I am so excited to have

> found this forum. I have a grandchild who has ADHD and he is on a GFCF

> diet. I am trying to learn from the experiences of others who are

using

> the diet. I am trying to learn more about other treatments and figure

> out what works. I look forward to chatting with you all.

>

> Regards,

>

> Bea

>

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I used to crush it and put it in about a tablespoon or so of non-dairy ice cream.cherylHi all - we just joined this group - our 4 yr old daughter has high levels of the Herpes virus and we were starting a to give her Valtrex prescribed by Dr Sears. Does anybody have any advice on how to administer these pills into a kid who's strong willed and fiesty, a picky eater, she only drinks water and she's not quite at level where we can bribe her. We previously tried forcing liquid vitamins on her and half of it seems to get spit out. - maybe this will be the only option- thanksKen and

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> Hi all - we just joined this group - our 4 yr old daughter

has

> high levels of the Herpes virus and we were starting a to give her

> Valtrex prescribed by Dr Sears. Does anybody have any advice on how

to

> administer these pills into a kid who's strong willed and fiesty, a

> picky eater, she only drinks water and she's not quite at level where

> we can bribe her. We previously tried forcing liquid vitamins on her

> and half of it seems to get spit out. - maybe this will be the only

> option

> - thanks

>

> Ken and

>We were in your shoes two years ago with our son. What worked for us

was this:

1) Take a week off from attempting to give pills. Everyone could use a

break from the pressure.

2) Don't hide the medicine. Explain what it is, don't expect her to

take it and then back off from the topic.

3) Give her a bottle with a spout on top. (We used a poland springs

water bottle with the white spout that you have to pull up on to drink

it.) Let her practice drinking out of the new bottle. When you put

the spout in your mouth it creates a tunnel for the pill to go down in

the mouth vs. the pill rolling around in the mouth and stimulating a

gag reflux.

4) Then start with a smaller capsule (like a probiotice) with the water

bottle. Then when she has master this, add the valtrex.

5) Remain calm! Kids get stressed when they sense their parents

stress. This whole process may seem like a long drawn out process but

it is worth it. Our son wouldn't take anything no matter what we did.

He, too, only drinks water. But when I stopped hiding things and was

honest and remained calm,and gave him the water bottle he starting

swallowing things.

I hope this is helpful.

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, please contact susan Owens lwo@... . She has done research on TS and she feels that GFCF diet is of great benefit to kids affected by it. i posted recently on 2 cases I personally know of where that was clearly the case. you should be able to find my post in the archives :) McBride wrote: Hello, I am a very new member and wanted to say hi.. I have a 2 and half year old whose over all condition is Tuberous sclerosis

and now is showing signs of autism.. I will read up on the program here and hope that it will help my young guy.. Is there any members here who have TSC as well? -- Thanks, McBride

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Thanks!! I will look it up, I appreciate the response!!

, please contact susan Owens lwo@... . She has done research on TS and she feels that GFCF diet is of great benefit to kids affected by it. i posted recently on 2 cases I personally know of where that was clearly the case. you should be able to find my post in the archives :) McBride wrote:

Hello,

I am a very new member and wanted to say hi.. I have a 2 and half year old whose over all condition is Tuberous sclerosis and now is showing signs of autism.. I will read up on the program here and hope that it will help my young guy.. Is there any members here who have TSC as well? -- Thanks, McBride

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-- Thanks, McBride

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Our main job here is to support those with the disease . And once you start treatment your definately going to need some support and that is where we come in . We are here for you honey , you need not contribute anything so to speak . And soon when a new person comes in your going to be able to answer thier questions and your experiences will add to the rest of ours . We form a strong group together and that is the purpose of this group .

new member

I have only been a member a few days and i have been reading about the various stages people are in and i really don't know if i belong here. my type 2 hep with no symptoms (other then a slightly elevated alt and ast) seems like a minor inconvenience compared to the liver transplants and treatments that didn't work. I'm not sure i have anything to offer.i start the injections and ribaviran within the week so maybe I'll be able to give an insight into the treatment but i want all of you to know that my heart goes out to you.

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Hi, My name is Patsy Candebat and I have had Hep C since 1980 which I

receive through a blood transfusion due to a motor vehicle accident. I

was diagnosed in 1991. In 1998 I enrolled in a drug study at Tulane

Medical Center in New Orleans. I did the Interferon 3x a week with

Ribavirin pills. I had to stop after only a few months due to Anemia. I

was a non-responder. I had a Liver Biopsy previous to the study and I

had mild fibrosis. Well it is now 2008 and since then I have 2 more

biopsies. In Nov. 07 I began the Pegalated interferon, once weekly

along with the Ribavirin. I failed again, the blood test for the virus,

the Quant showed no change. The side effects were extreme. My WBC was

low to begin with and once I started the treatment it became extreamely

dangerous. I took Procrit along with Neupogen for my RBC but failed

again. Well now I am in Stage 3 or early Cirrosis with recently

diagnosed Portal hypertension. Iam being treated at Ochsner Clinic with

blood test every few months and Ultrasound. Now I just sit and wait for

whatever will happens next. Iam 61 with 6 children and 19

Grandchildren. I have a very busy active life and do not plan on going

anywhere soon. Iam not a complainer and look to the good Lord for

strength. Thanksgiving dinner will be by my house and I look forward to

a great Christmas. Wishing you well and hope to hear from you.

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Welcome Patsy,

Have you looked into treatment by Dr Bert Berkson?? You will find a lot of info on him on the internet. It is treatment that is done with alpha lipoic acid given IV. Minimal side effects. He is well respected and documented. You might look into that.

You sound active and happy. I wish you the best and, again, welcome !!!

Cheers, SuziQ

Subject: New MemberTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 6:00 PM

Hi, My name is Patsy Candebat and I have had Hep C since 1980 which I receive through a blood transfusion due to a motor vehicle accident. I was diagnosed in 1991. In 1998 I enrolled in a drug study at Tulane Medical Center in New Orleans. I did the Interferon 3x a week with Ribavirin pills. I had to stop after only a few months due to Anemia. I was a non-responder. I had a Liver Biopsy previous to the study and I had mild fibrosis. Well it is now 2008 and since then I have 2 more biopsies. In Nov. 07 I began the Pegalated interferon, once weekly along with the Ribavirin. I failed again, the blood test for the virus, the Quant showed no change. The side effects were extreme. My WBC was low to begin with and once I started the treatment it became extreamely dangerous. I took Procrit along with Neupogen for my RBC but failed again. Well now I am in Stage 3 or early Cirrosis with recently diagnosed

Portal hypertension. Iam being treated at Ochsner Clinic with blood test every few months and Ultrasound. Now I just sit and wait for whatever will happens next. Iam 61 with 6 children and 19 Grandchildren. I have a very busy active life and do not plan on going anywhere soon. Iam not a complainer and look to the good Lord for strength. Thanksgiving dinner will be by my house and I look forward to a great Christmas. Wishing you well and hope to hear from you.

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