Re: thoughts on Bacillus licheniformis

[Guest guest]

Hi CB,

Good posting, as allways appreciate everybody`s contribution which

constitutes food for thought.

In Rife`s early lab notes he referred to the micro organism he discovered as

bacillus X (hence BX) also stated the organism as highly motile. Forgive my

ignorance but I have never heard a virus being motile, in the sense of being

self propelled. I think Rife described a bacillus of viral size. At least

that is what I have pictured in my mind for considerable time. Until someone

proves me wrong. There may very well be many life forms of comparable size

not yet discovered.

My own research indicates that many microscopic life forms are (almost)

transparant, taking the color of the background they inhibit thus hard to

detect.

Gordon

There has significant discussion in the past year about an organism called

Bacillus licheniformis and its probable connection to cancer, and possibly

to Rife's BX virus. In particular there has been a reference to an article

which appeared in the journal Lancet. Discussion on these lists contained

implications that the researcher reviewed in this article may have

identified the BX viral organism. The article is available for free reading

at

http://oncology.thelancet.com/journal/vol4/iss2/full/lonc.4.2.newsdesk.24220.1,

(required free registration with Lancet is available on the same page).

>

> This subject just came up again on another list. Here is a copy of what I

posted, with a few additional comments.

>

> A check of the Lancet article referred to above shows it does not make any

mention whatsoever of Rife, and the word " virus " never appears. The writer

of this article reviews the work of a researcher that worked with the

pleomorphic transformation of Helicobacter pylori to Bacillus licheniformis.

Indeed a very interesting piece of work. He also sent samples of 16S

ribosomal RNA in for sequencing, which revealed a connection to B

licheniformis. However, viruses never contain any ribosomal RNA. The genome

size of B. licheniformis is way beyond the range of any known viruses, and

is much more in common with bacterial genome sizes.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Gordon and Char..

Recent published papers in the biology world have also found that some

cancers have stem cells, and that if the stem cells are transferred to a

new host animal, golly-gee, the same cancer develops. It is possible

that Rife was seeing stem cells - much smaller than blood cells - and

certainly motile. Another possibility! (Also is the possibility that

Rife's cancer sample, after 24 hour exposure to high voltage in an argon

atmosphere, may have mutated to mouse mammary tumor virus. There is a

note buried somewhere in Rife's audio tapes that they later injected a

human subject with the lab animal cancer - and that it didn't grow in a

human subject - possibly it was no longer human cancer he was working

with by then..) For all the great work Rife did, the actual details just

aren't known.

- Dave

Gordon Minor wrote:

> Hi CB,

>

> Good posting, as allways appreciate everybody`s contribution which

> constitutes food for thought.

>

> In Rife`s early lab notes he referred to the micro organism he discovered as

> bacillus X (hence BX) also stated the organism as highly motile. Forgive my

> ignorance but I have never heard a virus being motile, in the sense of being

> self propelled. I think Rife described a bacillus of viral size. At least

> that is what I have pictured in my mind for considerable time. Until someone

> proves me wrong. There may very well be many life forms of comparable size

> not yet discovered.

> My own research indicates that many microscopic life forms are (almost)

> transparant, taking the color of the background they inhibit thus hard to

> detect.

>

> Gordon

>

> There has significant discussion in the past year about an organism called

> Bacillus licheniformis and its probable connection to cancer, and possibly

> to Rife's BX virus. In particular there has been a reference to an article

> which appeared in the journal Lancet. Discussion on these lists contained

> implications that the researcher reviewed in this article may have

> identified the BX viral organism. The article is available for free reading

> at

>

http://oncology.thelancet.com/journal/vol4/iss2/full/lonc.4.2.newsdesk.24220.1,

> (required free registration with Lancet is available on the same page).

>

>>This subject just came up again on another list. Here is a copy of what I

>

> posted, with a few additional comments.

>

>>A check of the Lancet article referred to above shows it does not make any

>

> mention whatsoever of Rife, and the word " virus " never appears. The writer

> of this article reviews the work of a researcher that worked with the

> pleomorphic transformation of Helicobacter pylori to Bacillus licheniformis.

> Indeed a very interesting piece of work. He also sent samples of 16S

> ribosomal RNA in for sequencing, which revealed a connection to B

> licheniformis. However, viruses never contain any ribosomal RNA. The genome

> size of B. licheniformis is way beyond the range of any known viruses, and

> is much more in common with bacterial genome sizes.

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, bacillus licheniformis is not a virus and it is a rather large leap to

equate what The Lancet said about it with Rife's BX. So far, my only

application of The Lancet article is to avoid gut flora products that contain

bacillus licheniformis such as Primal Defense and Nature's Biotics.

We do find that anti-virals work very well against cancers. I doubt that b.

licheniformis is the main cancer microbe. On the other hand, I am not going to

willingly eat the stuff!

Loyd http://www.royalrife.com

Re: thoughts on Bacillus licheniformis

Hi CB,

Good posting, as allways appreciate everybody`s contribution which

constitutes food for thought.

In Rife`s early lab notes he referred to the micro organism he discovered as

bacillus X (hence BX) also stated the organism as highly motile. Forgive my

ignorance but I have never heard a virus being motile, in the sense of being

self propelled. I think Rife described a bacillus of viral size. At least

that is what I have pictured in my mind for considerable time. Until someone

proves me wrong. There may very well be many life forms of comparable size

not yet discovered.

My own research indicates that many microscopic life forms are (almost)

transparant, taking the color of the background they inhibit thus hard to

detect.

Gordon

There has significant discussion in the past year about an organism called

Bacillus licheniformis and its probable connection to cancer, and possibly

to Rife's BX virus. In particular there has been a reference to an article

which appeared in the journal Lancet. Discussion on these lists contained

implications that the researcher reviewed in this article may have

identified the BX viral organism. The article is available for free reading

at

http://oncology.thelancet.com/journal/vol4/iss2/full/lonc.4.2.newsdesk.24220.1,

(required free registration with Lancet is available on the same page).

>

> This subject just came up again on another list. Here is a copy of what I

posted, with a few additional comments.

>

> A check of the Lancet article referred to above shows it does not make any

mention whatsoever of Rife, and the word " virus " never appears.

[Guest guest]

Dave and all,

Something a lot of people haven't considered is the aspect of heat.

Like any neon sign tube, the spiral argon filled tube would become quite

hot in operation. How hot? I would think certainly a lot hotter than that

of a conventional incubator. Probably well over 120 degrees F.

Jim Bare

Another possibility! (Also is the possibility that

>Rife's cancer sample, after 24 hour exposure to high voltage in an argon

>atmosphere, may have mutated to mouse mammary tumor virus.