Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Re: Re: Devitalizing microbes > Rife works great for cancer and looks good for lyme, but arthritis is my big > problem. I only have a few clients with cancer and lyme, but have hundreds > of clients with arthritis. > > I haven't had any positive results on my arthritis clients with my plasma > machine, and this bugs me. So I am dropping the use of the plasma light on > my arthritis clients and going to contact pads/electrodes and LEDs in an > attempt to fix it. > > I have many senior clients who can't walk properly any more now, arthritis > in knees, hips and feet. They don't have much money so they can't afford > some of the expensive treatments, so I am going to find a way to fix > arthritis with our frequencies. If we can cure cancer and lyme, I'm sure we > can fix arthritis. Ken, I know you already have a lot of knowledge about healing, but I'm wondering if you've thought of putting your arthritis clients on a green / chlorophyll drink and having them eliminate nightshades entirely from their diet. This would mean no tomatoes; bell peppers; chili, paprika or cayenne; potatoes; eggplant, or tobacco. When I eat those foods my whole body hurts. When I avoid them, I feel much better. When I take Super Greens and Prime pH from Inner Light to alkalize my system, my pain always diminishes, sometimes by as much as 75 or 80 per cent. Another really good product is protease enzymes; it's more for muscle injuries but it might help arthritis. I sell Inner Light products (you can find them on my website). The enzyme formula called TRMA I get from an American company called Therazyme. It's very effective. You take anywhere from 6 to 26 at a time, which is not excessive when you consider that people who have illness or stress in their lives use up their enzyme stores. Of course, since you're in Australia you may be able to find something locally. Regards, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD See my brand new user-friendly website! http://www.nenahsylver.com Get Transfer Factor for immunity at Wholesale prices. ========================================= Also: THE HOLISTIC HANDBOOK OF SAUNA THERAPY Sweating is a powerful detox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 i highly recommend " network chiropractic " ...it unblocks the nerves!!!among other things..... i'd been having trouble with my neck for years, but no more..as well as getting really happy.....~~~~ariella~~~~~~~~~ Nenah Sylver wrote: > Re: Re: Devitalizing microbes > > > Rife works great for cancer and looks good for lyme, but arthritis is my big > > problem. I only have a few clients with cancer and lyme, but have hundreds > > of clients with arthritis. > > > > I haven't had any positive results on my arthritis clients with my plasma > > machine, and this bugs me. So I am dropping the use of the plasma light on > > my arthritis clients and going to contact pads/electrodes and LEDs in an > > attempt to fix it. > > > > I have many senior clients who can't walk properly any more now, arthritis > > in knees, hips and feet. They don't have much money so they can't afford > > some of the expensive treatments, so I am going to find a way to fix > > arthritis with our frequencies. If we can cure cancer and lyme, I'm sure we > > can fix arthritis. > > Ken, > I know you already have a lot of knowledge about healing, but I'm wondering if > you've thought of putting your arthritis clients on a green / chlorophyll drink > and having them eliminate nightshades entirely from their diet. This would mean > no tomatoes; bell peppers; chili, paprika or cayenne; potatoes; eggplant, or > tobacco. > > When I eat those foods my whole body hurts. When I avoid them, I feel much > better. When I take Super Greens and Prime pH from Inner Light to alkalize my > system, my pain always diminishes, sometimes by as much as 75 or 80 per cent. > > Another really good product is protease enzymes; it's more for muscle injuries > but it might help arthritis. > > I sell Inner Light products (you can find them on my website). The enzyme > formula called TRMA I get from an American company called Therazyme. It's very > effective. You take anywhere from 6 to 26 at a time, which is not excessive when > you consider that people who have illness or stress in their lives use up their > enzyme stores. > > Of course, since you're in Australia you may be able to find something locally. > > Regards, > Nenah > > Nenah Sylver, PhD > See my brand new user-friendly website! http://www.nenahsylver.com > Get Transfer Factor for immunity at Wholesale prices. > ========================================= > Also: THE HOLISTIC HANDBOOK OF SAUNA THERAPY > Sweating is a powerful detox! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Hi Nenah, I lack persuasive skills when dealing with diet. My arthritic clients are aware of nightshade foods and just tell me they don't want to give up the good food and for me to get a better machine :-( Thanks to for steering me straight here. I love the green drink, and put my family on it a few times each year to greet in the new season. This is just one of my rituals I now find has become habit. My knowledge on health is not very extensive. Thanks to a chiropractor I'm not in a wheel chair. I just had to learn part of their magic and use my hands for something else besides hitting a keyboard. I fell in love with body work and am still amazed what can be communicated by touch. Enter a plasma tube and electrodes and its like angles have entered the rooms. http://www.nenahsylver.com I love your new site, and your colors. The Reiki Master who taught me has her home in colors very similar to your web site. She is a beautiful person and awesome with her Rife machine. She has ten times the amount of courage than I do. I was trying to find out what we can do to help make the Rife Healing Handbook a reality, but when I click on the image to the left I was returned to the same screen. Can we submit a pre-order? Thanks for all you help and care for my arthritis people. I'll pass on your information and try and build a better machine. Regards Ken ----- Original Message ----- > > > Rife works great for cancer and looks good for lyme, but arthritis is my big > > problem. I only have a few clients with cancer and lyme, but have hundreds > > of clients with arthritis. > > > > I haven't had any positive results on my arthritis clients with my plasma > > machine, and this bugs me. So I am dropping the use of the plasma light on > > my arthritis clients and going to contact pads/electrodes and LEDs in an > > attempt to fix it. > > > > I have many senior clients who can't walk properly any more now, arthritis > > in knees, hips and feet. They don't have much money so they can't afford > > some of the expensive treatments, so I am going to find a way to fix > > arthritis with our frequencies. If we can cure cancer and lyme, I'm sure we > > can fix arthritis. > > > Ken, > I know you already have a lot of knowledge about healing, but I'm wondering if > you've thought of putting your arthritis clients on a green / chlorophyll drink > and having them eliminate nightshades entirely from their diet. This would mean > no tomatoes; bell peppers; chili, paprika or cayenne; potatoes; eggplant, or > tobacco. > > When I eat those foods my whole body hurts. When I avoid them, I feel much > better. When I take Super Greens and Prime pH from Inner Light to alkalize my > system, my pain always diminishes, sometimes by as much as 75 or 80 per cent. > > Another really good product is protease enzymes; it's more for muscle injuries > but it might help arthritis. > > I sell Inner Light products (you can find them on my website). The enzyme > formula called TRMA I get from an American company called Therazyme. It's very > effective. You take anywhere from 6 to 26 at a time, which is not excessive when > you consider that people who have illness or stress in their lives use up their > enzyme stores. > > Of course, since you're in Australia you may be able to find something locally. > > Regards, > Nenah > > Nenah Sylver, PhD > See my brand new user-friendly website! http://www.nenahsylver.com > Get Transfer Factor for immunity at Wholesale prices. > ========================================= > Also: THE HOLISTIC HANDBOOK OF SAUNA THERAPY > Sweating is a powerful detox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Re: Re: Devitalizing microbes / DIETARY CHANGES FOR ARTHRITIS > Hi Nenah, > > I lack persuasive skills when dealing with diet. My arthritic clients are > aware of nightshade foods and just tell me they don't want to give up the > good food and for me to get a better machine :-( Ken, Adrienne was quite right when saying that arthritic people can be fixed in their ways and that it is they who need to change. I would go even further and ask why you feel you need to enable these people and take on responsibility for their well-being that they should be taking on themselves. People prone to arthritis should not be eating nightshades, period. If someone's not willing to take responsibility for his/her own health, I wonder about the inherent " Fix me, Mr. Healer! " attitude always in place when they go to see you -- and how and why you feel it's up to you to build a bigger and better piece of Rife equipment, instead of helping these people to heal themselves. Adele had a wonderful story in one of her books about someone with arthritis. This particular client DID do as Ms. recommended, but she still didn't get better. Then one day , seeing how angry the woman always seemed to be, gave her a pillow and told her to beat the crap out of it. The woman did, hesitatingly at first. After a point, she really got into yelling and hitting and just allowed her anger to emerge. After that session, she no longer felt pain and was never troubled with arthritis again. In assuming responsibility for other people's health, you are taking away something very precious from them: their right and need for self-exploration, self-responsibility, and autonomy. You're not doing them any favors by acceeding to their immaturity. And it *is* immaturity, make no mistake about that. If I have arthritis and need you to " fix " me, I am kept perpetually in a state of childlike dependence with you as the parent/god/authority figure (albeit a very nice one ;-), in whom I have placed my total trust to the exclusion of my ability or inclination to make changes on my own. It's a positive move to see someone as a facilitator -- but as a substitute for self-containment and self-reliance? I don't think so. > I love the green drink, and put my family on it a few times each year to > greet in the new season. This is just one of my rituals I now find has > become habit. > > My knowledge on health is not very extensive. Thanks to a chiropractor I'm > not in a wheel chair. I just had to learn part of their magic and use my > hands for something else besides hitting a keyboard. I fell in love with > body work and am still amazed what can be communicated by touch. Enter a > plasma tube and electrodes and its like angles have entered the rooms. I never knew this about you. I'd love to hear the story of how you healed, if you have the time and inclination to share. > http://www.nenahsylver.com > > I love your new site, and your colors. The Reiki Master who taught me has > her home in colors very similar to your web site. She is a beautiful person > and awesome with her Rife machine. She has ten times the amount of courage > than I do. I'm glad you like my website. --You don't have to disparage your perceived lack of courage; each of us has our unique strengths that we can develop and share. > I was trying to find out what we can do to help make the Rife Healing > Handbook a reality, but when I click on the image to the left I was returned > to the same screen. Can we submit a pre-order? Thanks for pointing out the glitches. They should be fixed now. So yes, you can submit a pre-order. > Thanks for all you help and care for my arthritis people. I'll pass on your > information and try and build a better machine. Ken, you are perfect just the way you are. Consider all the love and caring you give to your clients. Each of us is responsible for our own healing. If you build a better unit, great -- but your clients come to you for much more than that. Blessings, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD See my brand new user-friendly website! http://www.nenahsylver.com Get Transfer Factor for immunity at Wholesale prices. ========================================= Also: THE HOLISTIC HANDBOOK OF SAUNA THERAPY Sweating is a powerful detox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 i'm surprised that when i throw out a new jewel, i.e. network chiropractic, that NO ONE shows any interest ...ariella Nenah Sylver wrote: > Re: Re: Devitalizing microbes / DIETARY CHANGES FOR ARTHRITIS > > > Hi Nenah, > > > > I lack persuasive skills when dealing with diet. My arthritic clients are > > aware of nightshade foods and just tell me they don't want to give up the > > good food and for me to get a better machine :-( > > Ken, > Adrienne was quite right when saying that arthritic people can be fixed in their > ways and that it is they who need to change. > > I would go even further and ask why you feel you need to enable these people and > take on responsibility for their well-being that they should be taking on > themselves. People prone to arthritis should not be eating nightshades, period. > If someone's not willing to take responsibility for his/her own health, I wonder > about the inherent " Fix me, Mr. Healer! " attitude always in place when they go > to see you -- and how and why you feel it's up to you to build a bigger and > better piece of Rife equipment, instead of helping these people to heal > themselves. Adele had a wonderful story in one of her books about someone > with arthritis. This particular client DID do as Ms. recommended, but she > still didn't get better. Then one day , seeing how angry the woman always > seemed to be, gave her a pillow and told her to beat the crap out of it. The > woman did, hesitatingly at first. After a point, she really got into yelling and > hitting and just allowed her anger to emerge. After that session, she no longer > felt pain and was never troubled with arthritis again. > > In assuming responsibility for other people's health, you are taking away > something very precious from them: their right and need for self-exploration, > self-responsibility, and autonomy. You're not doing them any favors by acceeding > to their immaturity. And it *is* immaturity, make no mistake about that. If I > have arthritis and need you to " fix " me, I am kept perpetually in a state of > childlike dependence with you as the parent/god/authority figure (albeit a very > nice one ;-), in whom I have placed my total trust to the exclusion of my > ability or inclination to make changes on my own. It's a positive move to see > someone as a facilitator -- but as a substitute for self-containment and > self-reliance? I don't think so. > > > I love the green drink, and put my family on it a few times each year to > > greet in the new season. This is just one of my rituals I now find has > > become habit. > > > > My knowledge on health is not very extensive. Thanks to a chiropractor I'm > > not in a wheel chair. I just had to learn part of their magic and use my > > hands for something else besides hitting a keyboard. I fell in love with > > body work and am still amazed what can be communicated by touch. Enter a > > plasma tube and electrodes and its like angles have entered the rooms. > > I never knew this about you. I'd love to hear the story of how you healed, if > you have the time and inclination to share. > > > http://www.nenahsylver.com > > > > I love your new site, and your colors. The Reiki Master who taught me has > > her home in colors very similar to your web site. She is a beautiful person > > and awesome with her Rife machine. She has ten times the amount of courage > > than I do. > > I'm glad you like my website. --You don't have to disparage your perceived lack > of courage; each of us has our unique strengths that we can develop and share. > > > I was trying to find out what we can do to help make the Rife Healing > > Handbook a reality, but when I click on the image to the left I was returned > > to the same screen. Can we submit a pre-order? > > Thanks for pointing out the glitches. They should be fixed now. So yes, you can > submit a pre-order. > > > Thanks for all you help and care for my arthritis people. I'll pass on your > > information and try and build a better machine. > > Ken, you are perfect just the way you are. Consider all the love and caring you > give to your clients. Each of us is responsible for our own healing. If you > build a better unit, great -- but your clients come to you for much more than > that. > > Blessings, > Nenah > > Nenah Sylver, PhD > See my brand new user-friendly website! http://www.nenahsylver.com > Get Transfer Factor for immunity at Wholesale prices. > ========================================= > Also: THE HOLISTIC HANDBOOK OF SAUNA THERAPY > Sweating is a powerful detox! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Thanks Larry and Adie, I've never used Rife frequencies through electrodes before so I am looking forward to getting up and running with pads. Human nature has special needs, the need to talk and be cared for are big. I know I have some clients that feel they have to manufacture a sore spot in themselves so they can justify regular massage sessions. I let people know its okay to want lots of regular massage, and one doesn't need to be sore or crook to want a massage, but many people just feel comfortable when they bring a problem along, may be they feel it is a challenge for me? You are correct about the strong and fixed will of arthritis suffers. I view it in many of the people I see, but know I can get some pads on their joints and chip away at the walls of resistance concerning diet and supplements. Doing some ohms readings across the body, I get the best readings when the skin is clean and freshly washed. In a clinic situation, which would be the best way to clean a spot on the body prior to attaching a pad to that spot? Just soap and water or would alcohol be better? Thanks for all your help and advise, it really is helping me approach this work in a far more confident way. Ken Re: Re: Devitalizing microbes / DIETARY CHANGES FOR ARTHRITIS > > Ken, > Many years ago Adelle said in her book on diet that she never met an arthritic who would change their diet. Some have changed their diet since. But that indicates the frozen nature of the will power of people with arthritis. Also, there are some people who don't really want to get better (more than 5%). Their illness serves a certain purpose for them. It gets them out of something they don't want to do. And people fuss over them and they get to go to the Dr. , etc. and be preoccupied with themselves. > > Something to consider. > I have been doing reflexology for 9 years. > Sincerely, > Adrienne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Hi Ariella, Do you have a web address that provides more information on network chiropractic? When I did a google search my browser was full of many different sites. I didn't have the time to search through all these sites. Which site has the best information on network chiropractic? Ken ----- Original Message ----- > > i'm surprised that when i throw out a new jewel, i.e. network chiropractic, that NO ONE shows any interest ...ariella > > Nenah Sylver wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Ariella .. It would help if you gave a short description of what you mean. My DNFT Chiropractor does something she calls Network, where for a small fee per month one can come in for a short " tune-up " chiro session as often as you want. There may be other " Network " Chiropractic meanings as well .. gotta give us more clues what you're talking about. Healings, Dave Ariella wrote: > > i'm surprised that when i throw out a new jewel, i.e. network chiropractic, that NO ONE shows any interest ...ariella > > Nenah Sylver wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 ----- Original Message ----- > I would go even further and ask why you feel you need to enable these people and > take on responsibility for their well-being that they should be taking on > themselves. People prone to arthritis should not be eating nightshades, period. > If someone's not willing to take responsibility for his/her own health, I wonder > about the inherent " Fix me, Mr. Healer! " attitude always in place when they go > to see you -- and how and why you feel it's up to you to build a bigger and > better piece of Rife equipment, instead of helping these people to heal > themselves. Adele had a wonderful story in one of her books about someone > with arthritis. This particular client DID do as Ms. recommended, but she > still didn't get better. Then one day , seeing how angry the woman always > seemed to be, gave her a pillow and told her to beat the crap out of it. The > woman did, hesitatingly at first. After a point, she really got into yelling and > hitting and just allowed her anger to emerge. After that session, she no longer > felt pain and was never troubled with arthritis again. > > In assuming responsibility for other people's health, you are taking away > something very precious from them: their right and need for self-exploration, > self-responsibility, and autonomy. You're not doing them any favors by acceeding > to their immaturity. And it *is* immaturity, make no mistake about that. If I > have arthritis and need you to " fix " me, I am kept perpetually in a state of > childlike dependence with you as the parent/god/authority figure (albeit a very > nice one ;-), in whom I have placed my total trust to the exclusion of my > ability or inclination to make changes on my own. It's a positive move to see > someone as a facilitator -- but as a substitute for self-containment and > self-reliance? I don't think so. My field of therapeutic activity and advise is pretty well defined by my licensing association. I am not trained or skilled in diet, there are numerous naturopaths and homeopaths I send my clients to for them to receive the proper and trained care for their aliments when the presenting conditions is beyond my skills, which happens regularly. My area of expertise is " soft tissue " and I must stick to this or risk loosing my license to perform body work. I can treat a person WITH cancer, lymes, herpes, and arthritis, but I can't treat a person FOR cancer, lymes, herpes or arthritis. My roll as a body worker is to repair and reset soft tissue and while I stay in this orbit, then life proceeds without trouble. If I venture outside my training, into other fields, then my insurance no longer covers me and I risk everything. My reputation in my local community is the " one hit wonder " ... i.e. I resolve 80% of the presenting problems on the first visit. All my clients leave me with a tool kit to look after themselves. But I can't make people change or do things they don't want to do. I do not have the skills, qualifications or licensing requirements to treat people for their anger and mental/emotional states. This is way out of my field and if I go there, then I risk all. Hence I feel I am a person without the great courage of others, for I need income and work to survive and I need to stay within my field of qualifications to protect my family and our business. I can use Rife technology to complement my body work skills, and this has been great, for many disorders outside my field of expertise have cleared up in my clients. The " healer - heal me " syndrome is great to get new people to come to see me for the reasons you mentioned above. I market my business in this way to create a bridge to people who really need care and change in their lives. Once under my initial care, then I can evaluate the underlieing conditions and get them off to see other skilled therapists to help them take that next step in their health education. I am in a little circle of therapists here, we all work in different areas of health care and we all work together. This has been very good for our clients, but still, many people hold onto their old ways and are very resistant to change. Should I close my door to these type of people? Regards Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Re: Re: Devitalizing microbes / DIETARY CHANGES FOR ARTHRITIS ----- Original Message ----- < < I would go even further and ask why you feel you need to enable these people and take on responsibility for their well-being that they should be taking on themselves. People prone to arthritis should not be eating nightshades, period. If someone's not willing to take responsibility for his/her own health, I wonder about the inherent " Fix me, Mr. Healer! " attitude always in place when they go to see you -- and how and why you feel it's up to you to build a bigger and better piece of Rife equipment, instead of helping these people to heal themselves. Adele had a wonderful story in one of her books about someone with arthritis. This particular client DID do as Ms. recommended, but she still didn't get better. Then one day , seeing how angry the woman always seemed to be, gave her a pillow and told her to beat the crap out of it. The woman did, hesitatingly at first. After a point, she really got into yelling and hitting and just allowed her anger to emerge. After that session, she no longer felt pain and was never troubled with arthritis again. In assuming responsibility for other people's health, you are taking away something very precious from them: their right and need for self-exploration, self-responsibility, and autonomy. You're not doing them any favors by acceeding to their immaturity. And it *is* immaturity, make no mistake about that. If I have arthritis and need you to " fix " me, I am kept perpetually in a state of childlike dependence with you as the parent/god/authority figure (albeit a very nice one ;-), in whom I have placed my total trust to the exclusion of my ability or inclination to make changes on my own. It's a positive move to see someone as a facilitator -- but as a substitute for self-containment and self-reliance? I don't think so. > > > My field of therapeutic activity and advise is pretty well defined by my > licensing association. > > I am not trained or skilled in diet, there are numerous naturopaths and > homeopaths I send my clients to for them to receive the proper and trained > care for their aliments when the presenting conditions is beyond my skills, > which happens regularly. > > My area of expertise is " soft tissue " and I must stick to this or risk > loosing my license to perform body work. > > I can treat a person WITH cancer, lymes, herpes, and arthritis, but I can't > treat a person FOR cancer, lymes, herpes or arthritis. My roll as a body > worker is to repair and reset soft tissue and while I stay in this orbit, > then life proceeds without trouble. If I venture outside my training, into > other fields, then my insurance no longer covers me and I risk everything. > > My reputation in my local community is the " one hit wonder " ... i.e. I > resolve 80% of the presenting problems on the first visit. All my clients > leave me with a tool kit to look after themselves. But I can't make people > change or do things they don't want to do. > > I do not have the skills, qualifications or licensing requirements to treat > people for their anger and mental/emotional states. This is way out of my > field and if I go there, then I risk all. Hence I feel I am a person without > the great courage of others, for I need income and work to survive and I > need to stay within my field of qualifications to protect my family and our > business. > > I can use Rife technology to complement my body work skills, and this has > been great, for many disorders outside my field of expertise have cleared up > in my clients. > > The " healer - heal me " syndrome is great to get new people to come to see me > for the reasons you mentioned above. I market my business in this way to > create a bridge to people who really need care and change in their lives. > Once under my initial care, then I can evaluate the underlieing conditions > and get them off to see other skilled therapists to help them take that next > step in their health education. > > I am in a little circle of therapists here, we all work in different areas > of health care and we all work together. This has been very good for our > clients, but still, many people hold onto their old ways and are very > resistant to change. Should I close my door to these type of people? > > Regards > Ken Hi Ken. Thanks for taking on the challenge of a reply ;-) You are quite right about the licensing issue -- it's always tricky, and I respect your need to earn a living. Also, I think it's honorable that once people are in the door you send them to other professionals too. I'm a little surprised, however, that on the one hand you can't say in a general way that scientific studies show nightshades causing problems for people with arthritis, yet on the other hand you can use frequency devices in your practice. I'm not familiar with laws in Australia. The marketing issue can be tricky. Each person decides at what level s/he wants to work. As you say, you have set things up for yourself to draw " fix-me " people into your practice, and that's your choice; so who am I to judge you? I know that approach would not work for me. At one point, especially early in my career as a psychotherapist, I got a lot of such clients. However, they never progressed as much or as far as people who were willing to take responsibility for their own healing. Eventually I burned out on the " fix-me " folks and either I had to change my strategy and self-concept and expectations and understanding as a professional, or quit seeing clients. The social/political/spiritual climate on the planet at this time, as I see it, is a polarity. There is one group who is perfectly happy and willing to be fixed, saved, ordered about, and regulated. Then there is another group who desires to be autonomous, independent, sovereign, and responsible for their own lives. The latter position can be more challenging, but to me it brings greater rewards -- and a much greater connection to self. It's all a matter of choice. I wish you luck in your goal of helping people to wake up. I only question how quickly this can take place if you don't have their conscious assent to be prodded. Surely when one's will is engaged, too, there is more rapid integration than if one is being introduced to change " on the sly. " Best regards, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD See my brand new user-friendly website! http://www.nenahsylver.com Get Transfer Factor for immunity at Wholesale prices. ========================================= Also: THE HOLISTIC HANDBOOK OF SAUNA THERAPY Sweating is a powerful detox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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