Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 , don't you mean 'lack of sunshine is *A* cause of depression'.sugar consumption can cause depression; or should i say it can contribute to it.what does one do in the winter? i understand the rays of the sun are not strong enough. CLO?that would explain SAD, or my winter depression.i LOVE winter, the cold, the dark, the snow, the ice, i just LOVE it.but i go to bed at 8 pm or so cuz i'm so tired, i stay in bed til 8 am or so, i sleep 10 hours or so, (i love to just lie in bed and listen to the radio even if not sleeping) and then i'm tired all day and don't want to do anything. unless there's snow! then i go cross country skiing and feel wonderful.but all winter long i wish i could just hibernate like a bear, and just sleep and read and eat (not cook) and listen to music. i get pretty much nothing done all winter and my house goes to hell.thanks.laura actually, it is a contributing factor, if not *A* factor. Study done here at U Washington showed that depression is significantly decreased with 20 minutes of sunshine (plus exercise and good whole foods nutrition), and those depressed subjects had been getting insufficient amounts of each. Jolynn Jolynn-Marie Wagner, Ph.D., CCH, CYT Redwood Psychological & Counseling Services, PLLC 115 W. Main St. #202, Monroe, WA Phone/Fax Therapeutic & Diagnostic Services for Children & Adolescents, Specializing in Children with Asperger's, Behavioral, & Mood Disorders, Fertility & Family Planning Counseling for Women, Adoption Support Counseling for Adoptive Kids & Parents, Animal-Assisted Therapy Program Sage Lake Farm & Sage Lake Herbs, LLCMonroe, WA Phone/Fax Sustainable Plant & Animal Agriculture, Goat & Cow Home Dairy, Poultrty, Llamas, Meat & Fiber Goats, Kiger Mustangs from the Wild, Siberian Huskies & Maremma Livestock Guardian Dogs, Breeding & Training of Therapeutic Cat Companions, Culinary & Medicinal Herbs, Herbal Products & Educational Programs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 , don't you mean 'lack of sunshine is *A* cause of depression'. sugar consumption can cause depression; or should i say it can contribute to it. what does one do in the winter? i understand the rays of the sun are not strong enough. CLO? that would explain SAD, or my winter depression. i LOVE winter, the cold, the dark, the snow, the ice, i just LOVE it. but i go to bed at 8 pm or so cuz i'm so tired, i stay in bed til 8 am or so, i sleep 10 hours or so, (i love to just lie in bed and listen to the radio even if not sleeping) and then i'm tired all day and don't want to do anything. unless there's snow! then i go cross country skiing and feel wonderful. but all winter long i wish i could just hibernate like a bear, and just sleep and read and eat (not cook) and listen to music. i get pretty much nothing done all winter and my house goes to hell. thanks. laura > Lack of sunshine is the cause of depression. You need more sunshine > nicholas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Hi Jolynn, i know you are right. i have found being in the sun to be quite a mood lifter. but i still don't know what to do in the winter... just hibernate, like i want to, LOL? laura > actually, it is a contributing factor, if not *A* factor. Study done here at > U Washington showed that depression is significantly decreased with 20 > minutes of sunshine (plus exercise and good whole foods nutrition), and those > depressed subjects had been getting insufficient amounts of each. > Jolynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 , you don't sound crazy at all; actually, it's the flylady who's nuts! just kidding. but seriously, i gave her a try a few years ago and she just plain got on my nerves. the rest of the year my house is fine; except for disorganized papers. they are a chronic problem. i learned on another web site, www.radiantrecovery.com, that disorganiziation is a function of SEROTONIN levels in the brain. this web site is devoted to identifying people who are 'sugar sensitive', getting them off sugar in a wonderful baby step way that really works and is not hard to follow, and most people find that the 'house cleans itself'. meaning, they wake up one day and find the house clean and organized; you did it yourself but it was such a natural process you almost didn't notice. when you go off sugar, serotonin levels naturally increase and organization almost becomes a no-brainer. it happened to me; except in the winter. and the papers. apparently my serotonin levels increased but are still not optimal. probably hereditary; i'm a lot like other family members. we're all northern europeans, including irish. along these same lines, there's a book, The Omega Diet about omega- 3's and how deprived we are. she said the stereotype about irish people tending to drink too much is not necessarily a fallacy; that the ancestors of the Irish ate fish as a mainstay of their diet; lots of omega-3's. the irish don't eat nearly as much fish as they used to. omega 3's, i believe, optimize serotonin levels; correct me here, please. alcohol and sugar do the same only temporarily and then there's a crash; not a good way to raise serotonin. so someone suggested the other day that i take fish oil for depression. i agree. maybe i should start taking it again. but doesn't CLO do the same thing? or does it? anyway. laura -- In RawDairy , " Ulmer " <vulmer@i...> wrote: > -I'm gonna sound crazy here, but check out www.flylady.net she is more than just help for organizing your house-she is motivational, and has helped many people with depression even!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 You can get a sun lamp and just have it on in the kitchen or a room you are in for 15 minutes 2 times a day. Not to sit under, just for the rays to be in the room. Vitamin D helps as that's what you get from the sun. I take the D, but the St. s Wort is a lifesaver. K.C. sunshine and depression , don't you mean 'lack of sunshine is *A* cause of depression'.sugar consumption can cause depression; or should i say it can contribute to it.what does one do in the winter? i understand the rays of the sun are not strong enough. CLO?that would explain SAD, or my winter depression.i LOVE winter, the cold, the dark, the snow, the ice, i just LOVE it.but i go to bed at 8 pm or so cuz i'm so tired, i stay in bed til 8 am or so, i sleep 10 hours or so, (i love to just lie in bed and listen to the radio even if not sleeping) and then i'm tired all day and don't want to do anything. unless there's snow! then i go cross country skiing and feel wonderful.but all winter long i wish i could just hibernate like a bear, and just sleep and read and eat (not cook) and listen to music. i get pretty much nothing done all winter and my house goes to hell.thanks.laura> Lack of sunshine is the cause of depression. You need more sunshine> nicholasPLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Archive search: http://onibasu.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Sorry, , CLO is cod liver oil. i read so many lists i forget what list uses which abbreviations. laura > , you have a point there. Paying bills and having to go to work everyday gets me depressed. LOL What does CLO mean? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 KC there was something in the news a few years ago about st. johns wort causing some kind of side effect, light sensitiviy or something? does it do that with you? do you use it only in the winter? maybe the benefits outweight any risks. laura > You can get a sun lamp and just have it on in the kitchen or a room you are in for 15 minutes 2 times a day. Not to sit under, just for the rays to be in the room. Vitamin D helps as that's what you get from the sun. > > I take the D, but the St. s Wort is a lifesaver. > > K.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 If you listen to all the bad stuff they have on the news about herbs and supplements, you would crawl into a hole and pull the dirt over you. The only thing I know from researching it is that people should not take it if they are taking mood elevators like Zanax and anti-depressants that you need a prescription for. I've never encountered any side effects from it. It's doesn't hype you up or make you feel better like the drugs, just do feel better. I take the caps, but I was told the tinctures are better. Just don't know if I want take something that tastes that bad. I've never had a light sensitivity from it or anything else I take. K.C. Re: sunshine and depression KCthere was something in the news a few years ago about st. johns wort causing some kind of side effect, light sensitiviy or something? does it do that with you? do you use it only in the winter? maybe the benefits outweight any risks.laura> You can get a sun lamp and just have it on in the kitchen or a room you are in for 15 minutes 2 times a day. Not to sit under, just for the rays to be in the room. Vitamin D helps as that's what you get from the sun.> > I take the D, but the St. s Wort is a lifesaver.> > K.C.PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Archive search: http://onibasu.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 > If you listen to all the bad stuff they have on the news about herbs and supplements, you would crawl into a hole and pull the dirt over you. SOME DAYS THAT SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY GOOD IDEA. > The only thing I know from researching it is that people should not take it if they are taking mood elevators like Zanax and anti- depressants that you need a prescription for. I've never encountered any side effects from it. It's doesn't hype you up or make you feel better like the drugs, just do feel better. I take the caps, but I was told the tinctures are better. Just don't know if I want take something that tastes that bad. I'LL TRY IT NEXT WINTER WHEN I'M ABOUT TO DIG THAT HOLE TO CRAWL INTO. > > I've never had a light sensitivity from it or anything else I take. > K.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 -I'm gonna sound crazy here, but check out www.flylady.net she is more than just help for organizing your house-she is motivational, and has helped many people with depression even!! sunshine and depression but i go to bed at 8 pm or so cuz i'm so tired, i stay in bed til 8 am or so, i sleep 10 hours or so, (i love to just lie in bed and listen to the radio even if not sleeping) and then i'm tired all day and don't want to do anything. unless there's snow! then i go cross country skiing and feel wonderful.but all winter long i wish i could just hibernate like a bear, and just sleep and read and eat (not cook) and listen to music. i get pretty much nothing done all winter and my house goes to hell.thanks.laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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