Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 When I run the phanotron tube, I place it within a few inches of the target area, just like Rife did. Regards, Ken Uzzell wrote: > Greetings, > > Thought I would share this to see if other have had similar experiences. > > Numerous clients I see that have disease start out the Rife sessions at the > recommended 4 to 6 feet from the tube. My tube puts out about 100watt RF. So > 4 to 6 feet away people are exposed to about 6watts to 2watts of RF. > > One thing I have noticed over the years is that people are drawn to be > closer to the tube. This comes from their own intuition and experience with > how their body is responding to the Rife sessions. After a couple of > sessions, most people seem to settle in about 2 to 3 feet from the tube, > around 25 to 12watts of RF. I find this too strong for me, but I've been > sitting in on many sessions. I find at 6 to 8 feet out I don't experience > any RF loading. > > When sitting in closer to the plasma, my observation has been that their > bodies are responding faster to the healing frequencies that are triggered > by our machines. Some people like to temporarily place their head within > inches from the tube. I caution them to move back, and they do, but they > look so much calmer and clearer after doing this. Have other people > experienced this type of reaction? > > I feel I should put a fence 6 foot out and around my plasma light, but I > know it would get pushed down. > > Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Thanks Jim, I'll be able to use your message to keep people back. I think my machine is not that powerful as I have never smelt ozone, even when its been on for awhile. The plasma light in my tube doesn't glow as bright as some of the images I have seen on the web of the B/R instrument. Ken Re: Enter the RF Zone > Ken and all, > > The physiologically active emitted wave from the tube in a Rife/Bare > instrument is a non dispersive Zennick wave. The wave exists as a type of > soliton. This was written up in a paper which was presented this October in > Greece. > > Let me put this into English. The wave emited from a Rife/Bare device does > not conform to classical EM field theory. The wave does not drop off with > distance. It looses energy only when it leaves the media in which it > propagates, or strikes an object. In other words - the energy behaves in a > manner similar to conduction along a wire. Because a Rife/Bare instrument > is a high harmonic device with nearly all of the energy dissapated to the > side bands, no tissue heating effects occur . > > There is a classical RF wave emitted from the tube, which does drop off > with distance. This does have some effects, but is certainly not primary. > > The very close near field to the tube of a Rife/Bare instrument has an > extremely high E field. Well over 10Kv/meter . Depending upon the tube, gas > pressure, and power to the tube this field can easily exceed 30 Kv/meter > and produce ozone. > > Placing ones head 6 inches from the tube in a multi Kv field is not a good > thing to do. Regardless of how one may think they feel afterwards. > > Jim Bare > > > > > >Greetings, > > > >Thought I would share this to see if other have had similar experiences. > > > >Numerous clients I see that have disease start out the Rife sessions at the > >recommended 4 to 6 feet from the tube. My tube puts out about 100watt RF. So > >4 to 6 feet away people are exposed to about 6watts to 2watts of RF. > > > >One thing I have noticed over the years is that people are drawn to be > >closer to the tube. This comes from their own intuition and experience with > >how their body is responding to the Rife sessions. After a couple of > >sessions, most people seem to settle in about 2 to 3 feet from the tube, > >around 25 to 12watts of RF. I find this too strong for me, but I've been > >sitting in on many sessions. I find at 6 to 8 feet out I don't experience > >any RF loading. > > > >When sitting in closer to the plasma, my observation has been that their > >bodies are responding faster to the healing frequencies that are triggered > >by our machines. Some people like to temporarily place their head within > >inches from the tube. I caution them to move back, and they do, but they > >look so much calmer and clearer after doing this. Have other people > >experienced this type of reaction? > > > >I feel I should put a fence 6 foot out and around my plasma light, but I > >know it would get pushed down. > > > >Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Hi Gordon, I'm so totally amazed at these machines. I understand contact pads and how they deliver frequency to the body, but I am still mystified by the plasma tube and how it delivers the frequencies to the body. Is the plasma light like an RF transmitter, or aren't we dealing with RF here, is there another component that broadcasts the frequencies throughout the room. Ken ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Ken, > > I noticed fast and good results only a few inches from the tube. As a rule I > now treat myself within one foot of the machine for no longer than 3 to 5 > minutes. > > Gordon > > > recommended 4 to 6 feet from the tube. My tube puts out about 100watt RF. > So > > 4 to 6 feet away people are exposed to about 6watts to 2watts of RF. > > > > One thing I have noticed over the years is that people are drawn to be > > closer to the tube. This comes from their own intuition and experience > with > > how their body is responding to the Rife sessions. After a couple of > > sessions, most people seem to settle in about 2 to 3 feet from the tube, > > around 25 to 12watts of RF. I find this too strong for me, but I've been > > sitting in on many sessions. I find at 6 to 8 feet out I don't experience > > any RF loading. > > > > When sitting in closer to the plasma, my observation has been that their > > bodies are responding faster to the healing frequencies that are triggered > > by our machines. Some people like to temporarily place their head within > > inches from the tube. I caution them to move back, and they do, but they > > look so much calmer and clearer after doing this. Have other people > > experienced this type of reaction? > > > > I feel I should put a fence 6 foot out and around my plasma light, but I > > know it would get pushed down. > > > > Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Gordon, The non dispersive Zennick wave is the longitudinal component. The French Govt paid for a paper on the ability of the device to produce this wave. They were interested in it as an over the horizon ship radar. This was originally classifed research. Jim Bare >I have no means of measuring other components of the wave than RF and EM but >undoubtedly there is another component some describe as longtidual waves. >My setup displays over a 100mGauss at 1 mtr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Gordon wrote: RF induced EM fields travel relatively easy trough the body. Depending on the individual approximately 35W is absorbed by the body regardles the capacity of the machine. Proximity however is important because the pulsed EM field increases with capacity and to much is detremental. > Is the plasma light like an RF transmitter, or aren't we dealing with RF > here, is there another component that broadcasts the frequencies throughout > the room. I have no means of measuring other components of the wave than RF and EM but undoubtedly there is another component some describe as longtidual waves. My setup displays over a 100mGauss at 1 mtr. ------ People have been talking for years about a longitudinal wave component. I'm not sure why this is such a mystery, because for instance if you have an e-field being emitted from the plasma tube, the field will interact with all charged and polar particles in the air and in the body, causing actual back-and-forth motion of these particles. The strength of the field and other interacting forces or boundaries will limit the amount of distance the particles can move. The motion will vary depending on the type of wave (AC, positive or negative-only AC, or pulsed DC), but nonetheless you get particle back-and-forth motion of some sort at any one general position, which is pretty much the definition of an acoustic (longitudinal) type of wave. Then we can think about the fact that electrons would respond almost instantaneously to the fields, whereas other larger-mass charged particles would respond more slowly. And then how long does it take the larger particles to return to equilibrium (normal) position? And then, is the next wave event going to affect such a particle before it has a chance to completely return to equilibrium position? If the larger-mass positive particles and electrons (or other negative-charged particles) aren't able to interact with each other in a normal way, what happens then? These are some of the things that are quite fun to think about and study. The literature on how electromagnetic waves interact with bodies can be considered the macro part of all this, but there is an entire world of events at the microscopic and particle level too. Best wishes, Char Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Ken, Jim and all, Energy described as non-electromagnetic longitudinal waves which do not seem to dissipate over distance have also been described elsewhere, and in relation to a wide variety of natural phenomena which are not commonly well understood. Plasmas seem to have a particular association with this energy. This type of energy can travel through a vacuum, so is not the same as acoustic waves which require a physical medium for propagation and do dissipate over distance. Various researchers have rediscovered and studied this form of energy or some apparent variation of it. Notable current researchers are o and andra Correa <http://www.aetherometry.com>, whose work is founded on the earlier studies of Nicoli Tesla and Wilhelm Reich. The Correas further describe this energy as " ambipolar " and " mass-free " . This energy seems to have been given a variety of names: vacuum, space, black or aetheric energy are but a few. Chi, prahna, the energy of thought/intent, the energy of energy healers, and various other phenomena may also exist in this spectrum. The perception that the functioning of Rife's plasma device was perhaps associated with this energy was what first attracted me to our mutual interest. 8^) Warren Rekow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Hi Warren and members, Thanks for this extra insight and the link to Aetherometry and o & andra Correa's work. I take it an E Field is an Electric Field or Energy Field? And we have an energy which is non-electromagnetic that passes through all medium or non medium. I believe I read where Dr. Rife took scientists down to his cellar to display how this energy passed through his 15 inch concrete floors. I can understand some levels of science having difficulty with these concepts. So it is quite possible that our plasma machines can act, when coupled to a humans energy field, a sub-atomic particle amplifier, i.e. amplifying the mental functions which inturn benefits the entire body. Which might explain why Jim can kill microbes under his microscope on some days, and not on other days. It could be Jim's intent that is the catalyst here and being amplified by the plasma light. When most people sit down to a plasma light session, the intent is on healing and killing microbes, recovering from disease and disorder. I've nearly always experienced good results when I sit down with my clients and run through a frequency session, and we talk about the plasma light, how it gets the frequencies into all cells of the body. I.E. I paint a picture in the clients mind of dieing microbes and positive immune responses. This then becomes a reality. Yet when I leave the client alone to operate the machine, they can often have a mixed response, depending on their expectations, and positive attitude, as well as their existing vitality levels. Usually, responses are not as good when operating Rife alone as when someone else is sitting in on the session offering positive thoughts and encouragement. Expectation and experience are often two different things, but when dealing with Rife, I am generally finding expectation becomes the experience. Just my thoughts. Ken ----- Original Message ----- > > Ken, Jim and all, > Energy described as non-electromagnetic longitudinal waves which do not > seem to dissipate over distance have also been described elsewhere, and > in relation to a wide variety of natural phenomena which are not > commonly well understood. Plasmas seem to have a particular association > with this energy. This type of energy can travel through a vacuum, so > is not the same as acoustic waves which require a physical medium for > propagation and do dissipate over distance. > > Various researchers have rediscovered and studied this form of energy > or some apparent variation of it. Notable current researchers are o > and andra Correa <http://www.aetherometry.com>, whose work is > founded on the earlier studies of Nicoli Tesla and Wilhelm Reich. The > Correas further describe this energy as " ambipolar " and " mass-free " . > This energy seems to have been given a variety of names: vacuum, space, > black or aetheric energy are but a few. Chi, prahna, the energy of > thought/intent, the energy of energy healers, and various other > phenomena may also exist in this spectrum. The perception that the > functioning of Rife's plasma device was perhaps associated with this > energy was what first attracted me to our mutual interest. 8^) > Warren Rekow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Ken, On one of the Rife CD's, Dr. Rife states that one must put a healthy mouse in with the diseased mice when treating. Jim Bare >I've nearly always experienced good results when I sit down with my clients >and run through a frequency session, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Ken, your observations are very interesting. You cite apparent interactions between intent and this " aetheric energy " . There is another present day researcher who's work may interest you. In his book " Science and Human Transformation; Subtle Energies, Intentionality And Consciousness " Dr. Tiller <http://www.tiller.org> provides a fascinating discussion of the studies which he and others have made. In the first chapter he describes a plasma sensor-based device he built and the many experiments he conducted with it for " investigating focussed human attention " . Tiller found that the energy of a person's focussed intent was not attenuated by passing through massive walls, Faraday cages, etc. Note, there were days when his experiments seemed not to work well and he was not able to identify what caused this effect. I am working to duplicate his device and then extend his 1970s experimentation. Not coincidentally in this book and elsewhere Dr. Tiller also explores healing phenomena. BTW, he also appears in a recently released movie titled " What The Bleep Do We Know? " . Cheers, Warren Rekow <clip> > And we have an energy which is non-electromagnetic that passes > through all > medium or non medium. I believe I read where Dr. Rife took scientists > down > to his cellar to display how this energy passed through his 15 inch > concrete > floors. <clip> > So it is quite possible that our plasma machines can act, when > coupled to a > humans energy field, a sub-atomic particle amplifier, i.e. amplifying > the > mental functions which inturn benefits the entire body. Which might > explain > why Jim can kill microbes under his microscope on some days, and not > on > other days. It could be Jim's intent that is the catalyst here and > being > amplified by the plasma light. <clip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Ken and others on this thread The only way I can explain the differences in the healings and the responses, is that it reminds me having sex, if you are not in the mood and your body is not responsive, the same thing done one day feels good, and bothersome the next. It seems that the energy needs two to tango, your either in a receptive mode, or your not. When your on, the connection feels real and it feels strong, but if you way out of balance the circuits just don't connect. Maybe when you talk to your clients, it's a form of foreplay that gets them in the mood. The one thing I have noticed is you have to be open and receptive to really feel the healing. That's my laymen's take on it. Sincerely Vicki > >Reply-To: Rife >To: <Rife > >Subject: Re: Enter the RF Zone >Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:25:57 +1100 > _________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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