Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 Ken Uzzell wrote: So you are saying the F-Scan doesn't come with a clear discription of how it works. It appears there is a velcro tab that attaches to the finger, is this the sensor? I supose if resonance detection was easy to do then we'd see a lot of scanners on the market, which we don't. I hope Cambrone can conquer this task, we were on a good path with electrode scanning but thought the F-Scan had already solved this problem, so remote scanning seemed to offer more potential and ease of use. But if the F-Scan manufacturers aren't saying how the F-Scan works then that makes it a little difficult for scientists to use and publish their discoveries. So electrode resonance detection hasn't been solved then. My error! Thanks Dave, Ken Ken: I hold no opinion as to the F-scans reliability, however the following web site does offer some interesting observations if you are interested. I neither agree or disagree with these observations, so I hope no one takes this link personal! Link to Scoons Web site: http://www.scoon.co.uk/Electrotherapy/fscan.htm Mike http://www.truerife.com __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 Thanks Mike, I read Aubrey's report. Is Aubrey Scoon a respected figure in the Rife community? Regards Ken Uzzell > But if the F-Scan manufacturers aren't saying how the F-Scan works then that > makes it a little difficult for scientists to use and publish their > discoveries. > > So electrode resonance detection hasn't been solved then. My error! > > Thanks Dave, > Ken > Ken: I hold no opinion as to the F-scans reliability, however the following web site does offer some interesting observations if you are interested. I neither agree or disagree with these observations, so I hope no one takes this link personal! > Link to Scoons Web site: http://www.scoon.co.uk/Electrotherapy/fscan.htm > > Mike http://www.truerife.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 Aubrey's description of the early FSCAN device doesn't sound unreasonable to me - I'm hoping that the FSCAN2 has remedied the faults in the original design, but I haven't seen any analysis of the newer model. As far as resonance detection goes (and I'd think that the Syncrometer would also exhibit similar symptoms), I think the 50/60Hz EMR produced by home electrical wiring and appliances may make a significant impact on detection of other frequencies. A resonance detection algorithm would presumably need to make an assessment of the existing 'noise' level at the point of testing and such 'noise' subtracted from a detected result. I'd be pleased to hear of any alternatives to this and any shortcomings. Ken, Mike - your comments are most welcome! Regards > So you are saying the F-Scan doesn't come with a clear discription of how it > works. > > It appears there is a velcro tab that attaches to the finger, is this the > sensor? > > I supose if resonance detection was easy to do then we'd see a lot of > scanners on the market, which we don't. > > I hope Cambrone can conquer this task, we were on a good path with electrode > scanning but thought the F-Scan had already solved this problem, so remote > scanning seemed to offer more potential and ease of use. > > But if the F-Scan manufacturers aren't saying how the F-Scan works then that > makes it a little difficult for scientists to use and publish their > discoveries. > > So electrode resonance detection hasn't been solved then. My error! > > Thanks Dave, > Ken > Ken: I hold no opinion as to the F-scans reliability, however the following web site does offer some interesting observations if you are interested. I neither agree or disagree with these observations, so I hope no one takes this link personal! > Link to Scoons Web site: http://www.scoon.co.uk/Electrotherapy/fscan.htm > > Mike http://www.truerife.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 Aubrey Scoon did a good write-up on the F-SCAN and he described some shortcomings he found on the early version that he tested. The square wave was not very square. The sine waves did have a hitch in the slope. And, in the audio range, most people's test results do look similar. Not identical, but similar. There are peaks near 1360, 2720, 4080 and so on whether you are testing a person, a banana, or a vial of salt water. I noticed that when I tested electrolytes with stainless probes, the results were very different in the various salts. Dilute hydrochloric acid was a series of simple peaks. Potassium chloride had the same peaks but they were more complex. Magnesium chloride was even more complex with many peaks in between the usual ones. It has appeared to me that these regular peaks are related to electrolytes. In the audio range, body fluids such as blood, urine and saliva all had peaks in the usual areas, but each had many peaks that did not fit the pattern. And all were different. Urine had fairly simple peaks, blood much more complex peaks. Saliva was very complex, probably due to the large number of creatures that live there! Clearly the unit is not generating the peaks itself. When I did a series of tests from low audio up to the 300,000 Hz range, I noticed that the regular peaks got smaller and smaller as the frequency increased. By 100,000 Hz, they were very small but still barely detectable. But now there were much taller peaks that did not fit any pattern and were different in each person. In the range and above, every person's test is different. No two tests look alike. So it clearly does not generate its own peaks. And, as the actual MORs ( " Mortal Oscillatory Rates " or actual resonant killing frequencies) are mostly in the area of 50,000 and above, the low frequency regular series is hardly noticed if it is noticed at all. We have an excellent tool, and many physicians and others have found it to be the best way to deal with infections and conditions such as colds, flu, rheumatoid arthritis, MS, ALS, and so on. Loyd http://www.royalrife.com Re: F-Scan Can it be trusted? Ken Uzzell wrote: So you are saying the F-Scan doesn't come with a clear discription of how it works. It appears there is a velcro tab that attaches to the finger, is this the sensor? I supose if resonance detection was easy to do then we'd see a lot of scanners on the market, which we don't. I hope Cambrone can conquer this task, we were on a good path with electrode scanning but thought the F-Scan had already solved this problem, so remote scanning seemed to offer more potential and ease of use. But if the F-Scan manufacturers aren't saying how the F-Scan works then that makes it a little difficult for scientists to use and publish their discoveries. So electrode resonance detection hasn't been solved then. My error! Thanks Dave, Ken Ken: I hold no opinion as to the F-scans reliability, however the following web site does offer some interesting observations if you are interested. I neither agree or disagree with these observations, so I hope no one takes this link personal! Link to Scoons Web site: http://www.scoon.co.uk/Electrotherapy/fscan.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 Ken, I have never had any direct contact with Aubrey Scoon, however for what it is worth, I have studied the content of his web-site as well as his posts. My opinion is that anything he posts can be trusted absolutly. He is not prone to wild claims and appears to be quite anaylitical in his proclaimations. He appears somewhat of a skeptic, but I am even worse in most areas. I think we should all strive for technical excellence, each in our own areas of expertise. I cannot add anything to the F-scan subject as I have never taken one apart, but I do trust Mr. Scoon's work. Al Sledge > > I read Aubrey's report. > > Is Aubrey Scoon a respected figure in the Rife community? > > Regards > Ken Uzzell > > > Ken: I hold no opinion as to the F-scans reliability, however the > following web site does offer some interesting observations if you are > interested. I neither agree or disagree with these observations, so I hope > no one takes this link personal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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