Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I find it a fascinating topic that young children who have never been exposed to very violent or sexual scenes can focus their ocd around it. I am not paranoid -- not an extremist -- but just looked this up and thought it was interesting. I have heard it all before but all of this talk made me want to look it up again. http://listverse.com/2009/05/10/top-10-hidden-images-found-in-cartoons/ I'm not saying this happens or does not happen ... just maybe something to ponder. in WA Subject: New Here..My 8 Year Old Son Has It Too.. To: Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:01 PM  Hello all, The same thing happened to my son 1 month ago and we were shocked at the thoughts that he was having. He is also 8 years old and he is a very sweet child. On December 19th, he said " mom, I am having some horrible thoughts and I can't stop them or get them to go away. " He began crying and started going into detail about the thoughts. He said that he was having thoughts of sex with everyone that he sees-(both males & females)He said that he had thoughts of killing everyone in the house. He kept crying and said that they were not how he really feels and that he would never do anything bad but the thoughts were popping into his head and wouldn't go away. My husband & I were at a complete loss for words because our son has never seen any really bad movies involving sex and killing. However, he does have a PS 2 game system and some of the games do have some pretty graphic fighting scenes in them. Needless to say, I have destroyed all the games that he had which had a rating above " E " -for everyone. When my son was telling me his thoughts, I began to seriously think that he was possessed by a demonic spirit. I was really beginning to worry for everyone's safety as I have 2 other children in the house. (an 18 month old and a 3 year old) I thought about taking him to the emergency room but then I decided to look online first to see if anyone else was also having this happen to them. I did a Google search on " bad thoughts in children " and I basically was able to find within minutes that he had OCD. I sat my son down and told him not to worry because he was not alone and I let him read some of the posts that I found on the internet. He was constantly crying before he read the OCD symptoms because he thought that he was going crazy and that he was going to ultimately harm his family. This also made him feel relieved that I believed him and was going to get him some help. That following Monday-December 21, I began calling to try to locate a child psychiatrist & needless to say, I could not find 1 single psychiatrist who would be able to see him for at least 3 weeks due to the holidays. On Monday December 28th, after 9 days I finally was starting to fall apart because my son was crying and confessing his intrusive thoughts all week & I knew that my sweet lil boy was going through pure hell & he was now starting to talk about harming himself to make his awful thoughts stop. I decided that I couldn't wait for the 3 week appointment because he was now talking suicide and this was now an emergency situation, so, I looked up the nearest psych hospital which I discovered was only 15 minutes away and I drove my son directly there. I went to the front desk and told them that my son was having thoughts of harming himself and harming others. I knew that they would have to admit him because it would be against the law if they didn't admit him in that mental state. Needless to say, he was interviewed by a psychiatrist within 30 minutes and admitted into the hospital right then and there. He was given Ativan and Zoloft along with daily CBT therapy. He was released 7 days later, instructed to take Zoloft 50mg once a day and to have therapy once a week out-patient. He was able to return to school the following day after his release from the hospital. However, he did have several sexual intrusive thoughts when he first got in the classroom but he is not having them every 5 minutes anymore and he said that he was able to not worry about them as much as before. Our therapist told us to get him on the 504 program as soon as possible because she has seen too many kids slip through the cracks because they just did not get the right help that they needed in school-especially keeping them focused. I have already filled out the paperwork for the 504 education protection and my appointment is tomorrow morning. I am the kind of person who will not take no for an answer especially when it comes at the expense of my kids. Thanks for listening and I have a feeling that I am going to be a member here for a long time. Hugs, .. * . + * _ * + . * + . + * . * )\O/( * . * + . .. + . . (o o) + . * + . . * . ..+ . *. /._.\ ***STAR in TEXAS*** ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 http://library.thinkquest.org/28162/ads.html Again, I am not paranoid. This is the last I will write of this.  I just truly don't understand how a young child who has never been exposed to a graphic sexual scene at all can formulate such images in their head. Yet it happens alot.  It almost makes more sense that somehow their conscious or subconscious mind has seen it somehow. From: tammiestarlene <tammiestarlene@ yahoo.com> Subject: New Here..My 8 Year Old Son Has It Too.. To: @ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:01 PM  Hello all, The same thing happened to my son 1 month ago and we were shocked at the thoughts that he was having. He is also 8 years old and he is a very sweet child. On December 19th, he said " mom, I am having some horrible thoughts and I can't stop them or get them to go away. " He began crying and started going into detail about the thoughts. He said that he was having thoughts of sex with everyone that he sees-(both males & females)He said that he had thoughts of killing everyone in the house. He kept crying and said that they were not how he really feels and that he would never do anything bad but the thoughts were popping into his head and wouldn't go away. My husband & I were at a complete loss for words because our son has never seen any really bad movies involving sex and killing. However, he does have a PS 2 game system and some of the games do have some pretty graphic fighting scenes in them. Needless to say, I have destroyed all the games that he had which had a rating above " E " -for everyone. When my son was telling me his thoughts, I began to seriously think that he was possessed by a demonic spirit. I was really beginning to worry for everyone's safety as I have 2 other children in the house. (an 18 month old and a 3 year old) I thought about taking him to the emergency room but then I decided to look online first to see if anyone else was also having this happen to them. I did a Google search on " bad thoughts in children " and I basically was able to find within minutes that he had OCD. I sat my son down and told him not to worry because he was not alone and I let him read some of the posts that I found on the internet. He was constantly crying before he read the OCD symptoms because he thought that he was going crazy and that he was going to ultimately harm his family. This also made him feel relieved that I believed him and was going to get him some help. That following Monday-December 21, I began calling to try to locate a child psychiatrist & needless to say, I could not find 1 single psychiatrist who would be able to see him for at least 3 weeks due to the holidays. On Monday December 28th, after 9 days I finally was starting to fall apart because my son was crying and confessing his intrusive thoughts all week & I knew that my sweet lil boy was going through pure hell & he was now starting to talk about harming himself to make his awful thoughts stop. I decided that I couldn't wait for the 3 week appointment because he was now talking suicide and this was now an emergency situation, so, I looked up the nearest psych hospital which I discovered was only 15 minutes away and I drove my son directly there. I went to the front desk and told them that my son was having thoughts of harming himself and harming others. I knew that they would have to admit him because it would be against the law if they didn't admit him in that mental state. Needless to say, he was interviewed by a psychiatrist within 30 minutes and admitted into the hospital right then and there. He was given Ativan and Zoloft along with daily CBT therapy. He was released 7 days later, instructed to take Zoloft 50mg once a day and to have therapy once a week out-patient. He was able to return to school the following day after his release from the hospital. However, he did have several sexual intrusive thoughts when he first got in the classroom but he is not having them every 5 minutes anymore and he said that he was able to not worry about them as much as before. Our therapist told us to get him on the 504 program as soon as possible because she has seen too many kids slip through the cracks because they just did not get the right help that they needed in school-especially keeping them focused. I have already filled out the paperwork for the 504 education protection and my appointment is tomorrow morning. I am the kind of person who will not take no for an answer especially when it comes at the expense of my kids. Thanks for listening and I have a feeling that I am going to be a member here for a long time. Hugs, .. * . + * _ * + . * + . + * . * )\O/( * . * + . .. + . . (o o) + . * + . . * . ..+ . *. /._.\ ***STAR in TEXAS*** ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 , I am 100% sure that my son has never seen any VERY violent movies i.e. slasher type murder movies. The only violence that he has been exposed to is from watching the evening news and shows on TV like America's Most Wanted and video games. He has NEVER been exposed to any extreme sexual content that does not already come on regular public TV. i.e. xxx movies I do admit that some things on regular public TV are getting more disturbing every year. I am also 100% sure that he has never been molested because I have NEVER let him go to anyone's home or spend the night anywhere else except here. The only other place that he goes is to school. Tammie Starlene .. * . + * _ * + . * + . + * . * )\O/( * . * + . ... + . . (o o) + . * + . . * . ..+ . *. /._.\ ***STAR in Texas*** ~ > > > Subject: New Here..My 8 Year Old Son Has It Too.. > To: > Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:01 PM > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > The same thing happened to my son 1 month ago and we were > > shocked at the thoughts that he was having. > > He is also 8 years old and he is a very sweet child. > > > > On December 19th, he said " mom, I am having some horrible > > thoughts and I can't stop them or get them to go away. " > > He began crying and started going into detail about the thoughts. > > He said that he was having thoughts of sex with everyone that he > > sees-(both males & females)He said that he had thoughts of killing everyone in the house. He kept crying and said that they were not > > how he really feels and that he would never do anything bad but the > > thoughts were popping into his head and wouldn't go away. > > > > My husband & I were at a complete loss for words because our son > > has never seen any really bad movies involving sex and killing. > > However, he does have a PS 2 game system and some of the games > > do have some pretty graphic fighting scenes in them. Needless > > to say, I have destroyed all the games that he had which had > > a rating above " E " -for everyone. > > > > When my son was telling me his thoughts, I began to seriously > > think that he was possessed by a demonic spirit. I was really > > beginning to worry for everyone's safety as I have 2 other > > children in the house. (an 18 month old and a 3 year old) > > > > I thought about taking him to the emergency room but then I > > decided to look online first to see if anyone else was also > > having this happen to them. > > I did a Google search on " bad thoughts in children " and I > > basically was able to find within minutes that he had OCD. > > > > I sat my son down and told him not to worry because he was not > > alone and I let him read some of the posts that I found on the > > internet. He was constantly crying before he read the OCD symptoms because he thought that he was going crazy and that he was going to ultimately harm his family. This also made him feel relieved that I believed him and was going to get him some help. > > > > That following Monday-December 21, I began calling to try to locate > > a child psychiatrist & needless to say, I could not find 1 single psychiatrist who would be able to see him for at least 3 weeks due > > to the holidays. > > On Monday December 28th, after 9 days I finally was starting to fall apart because my son was crying and confessing his intrusive thoughts all week & I knew that my sweet lil boy was going through pure hell & he was now starting to talk about harming himself to make his awful thoughts stop. > > I decided that I couldn't wait for the 3 week appointment because he was now talking suicide and this was now an emergency situation, so, > > I looked up the nearest psych hospital which I discovered was only 15 minutes away and I drove my son directly there. I went to the front desk and told them that my son was having thoughts of harming himself and harming others. I knew that they would have to admit him because > > it would be against the law if they didn't admit him in that mental state. > > Needless to say, he was interviewed by a psychiatrist within 30 minutes and admitted into the hospital right then and there. He was given Ativan and Zoloft along with daily CBT therapy. He was released 7 days later, instructed to take Zoloft 50mg once a day and to have therapy once a week out-patient. > > He was able to return to school the following day after his release from the hospital. However, he did have several sexual intrusive thoughts when he first got in the classroom but he is not having them every 5 minutes anymore and he said that he was able to not worry about them as much as before. > > > > Our therapist told us to get him on the 504 program as soon as > > possible because she has seen too many kids slip through the > > cracks because they just did not get the right help that they > > needed in school-especially keeping them focused. I have already > > filled out the paperwork for the 504 education protection and my appointment is tomorrow morning. > > I am the kind of person who will not take no for an answer especially when it comes at the expense of my kids. > > > > Thanks for listening and I have a feeling that I am > > going to be a member here for a long time. > > > > Hugs, > > . * . + * _ * + . * + . > > + * . * )\O/( * . * + . > > . + . . (o o) + . * + . . * . > > .+ . *. /._.\ ***STAR in TEXAS*** ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Tammie, Please don't get me wrong. I don't think your son has been exposed to anything at all, and I believe 100% he has not been molested or anything along those lines .. I am just wondering if somehow our kids (with their sticky brains) perhaps pick up on subliminal messages that may or may not be out there perhaps more than someone else would. I am just questioning how in the world a young child who has not been exposed gets images like that in their head. My son had them too, at age 10, and he too had not been exposed to anything and violence I can understand more, but the sexual images -- I don't get that am just wondering if perhaps somehow there is something in the media that is getting those images there. Does anyone else wonder about this? The images can be so graphic that these poor little ones have and how does a young child's mind conjure up these images? Subject: Re: New Here..Fascinating To: Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:36 PM  , I am 100% sure that my son has never seen any VERY violent movies i.e. slasher type murder movies. The only violence that he has been exposed to is from watching the evening news and shows on TV like America's Most Wanted and video games. He has NEVER been exposed to any extreme sexual content that does not already come on regular public TV. i.e. xxx movies I do admit that some things on regular public TV are getting more disturbing every year. I am also 100% sure that he has never been molested because I have NEVER let him go to anyone's home or spend the night anywhere else except here. The only other place that he goes is to school. Tammie Starlene .. * . + * _ * + . * + . + * . * )\O/( * . * + . ... + . . (o o) + . * + . . * . ..+ . *. /._.\ ***STAR in Texas*** ~ > > From: tammiestarlene <tammiestarlene@ ...> > Subject: New Here..My 8 Year Old Son Has It Too.. > To: @ yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:01 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > The same thing happened to my son 1 month ago and we were > > shocked at the thoughts that he was having. > > He is also 8 years old and he is a very sweet child. > > > > On December 19th, he said " mom, I am having some horrible > > thoughts and I can't stop them or get them to go away. " > > He began crying and started going into detail about the thoughts. > > He said that he was having thoughts of sex with everyone that he > > sees-(both males & females)He said that he had thoughts of killing everyone in the house. He kept crying and said that they were not > > how he really feels and that he would never do anything bad but the > > thoughts were popping into his head and wouldn't go away. > > > > My husband & I were at a complete loss for words because our son > > has never seen any really bad movies involving sex and killing. > > However, he does have a PS 2 game system and some of the games > > do have some pretty graphic fighting scenes in them. Needless > > to say, I have destroyed all the games that he had which had > > a rating above " E " -for everyone. > > > > When my son was telling me his thoughts, I began to seriously > > think that he was possessed by a demonic spirit. I was really > > beginning to worry for everyone's safety as I have 2 other > > children in the house. (an 18 month old and a 3 year old) > > > > I thought about taking him to the emergency room but then I > > decided to look online first to see if anyone else was also > > having this happen to them. > > I did a Google search on " bad thoughts in children " and I > > basically was able to find within minutes that he had OCD. > > > > I sat my son down and told him not to worry because he was not > > alone and I let him read some of the posts that I found on the > > internet. He was constantly crying before he read the OCD symptoms because he thought that he was going crazy and that he was going to ultimately harm his family. This also made him feel relieved that I believed him and was going to get him some help. > > > > That following Monday-December 21, I began calling to try to locate > > a child psychiatrist & needless to say, I could not find 1 single psychiatrist who would be able to see him for at least 3 weeks due > > to the holidays. > > On Monday December 28th, after 9 days I finally was starting to fall apart because my son was crying and confessing his intrusive thoughts all week & I knew that my sweet lil boy was going through pure hell & he was now starting to talk about harming himself to make his awful thoughts stop. > > I decided that I couldn't wait for the 3 week appointment because he was now talking suicide and this was now an emergency situation, so, > > I looked up the nearest psych hospital which I discovered was only 15 minutes away and I drove my son directly there. I went to the front desk and told them that my son was having thoughts of harming himself and harming others. I knew that they would have to admit him because > > it would be against the law if they didn't admit him in that mental state. > > Needless to say, he was interviewed by a psychiatrist within 30 minutes and admitted into the hospital right then and there. He was given Ativan and Zoloft along with daily CBT therapy. He was released 7 days later, instructed to take Zoloft 50mg once a day and to have therapy once a week out-patient. > > He was able to return to school the following day after his release from the hospital. However, he did have several sexual intrusive thoughts when he first got in the classroom but he is not having them every 5 minutes anymore and he said that he was able to not worry about them as much as before. > > > > Our therapist told us to get him on the 504 program as soon as > > possible because she has seen too many kids slip through the > > cracks because they just did not get the right help that they > > needed in school-especially keeping them focused. I have already > > filled out the paperwork for the 504 education protection and my appointment is tomorrow morning. > > I am the kind of person who will not take no for an answer especially when it comes at the expense of my kids. > > > > Thanks for listening and I have a feeling that I am > > going to be a member here for a long time. > > > > Hugs, > > . * . + * _ * + . * + . > > + * . * )\O/( * . * + . > > . + . . (o o) + . * + . . * . > > .+ . *. /._.\ ***STAR in TEXAS*** ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 in a way we are not aware of as parents. Again, I am not paranoid -- just wonder what you all thought. From: tammiestarlene <tammiestarlene@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: New Here..Fascinating To: @ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:36 PM  , I am 100% sure that my son has never seen any VERY violent movies i.e. slasher type murder movies. The only violence that he has been exposed to is from watching the evening news and shows on TV like America's Most Wanted and video games. He has NEVER been exposed to any extreme sexual content that does not already come on regular public TV. i.e. xxx movies I do admit that some things on regular public TV are getting more disturbing every year. I am also 100% sure that he has never been molested because I have NEVER let him go to anyone's home or spend the night anywhere else except here. The only other place that he goes is to school. Tammie Starlene .. * . + * _ * + . * + . + * . * )\O/( * . * + . ... + . . (o o) + . * + . . * . ..+ . *. /._.\ ***STAR in Texas*** ~ > > From: tammiestarlene <tammiestarlene@ ...> > Subject: New Here..My 8 Year Old Son Has It Too.. > To: @ yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:01 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > The same thing happened to my son 1 month ago and we were > > shocked at the thoughts that he was having. > > He is also 8 years old and he is a very sweet child. > > > > On December 19th, he said " mom, I am having some horrible > > thoughts and I can't stop them or get them to go away. " > > He began crying and started going into detail about the thoughts. > > He said that he was having thoughts of sex with everyone that he > > sees-(both males & females)He said that he had thoughts of killing everyone in the house. He kept crying and said that they were not > > how he really feels and that he would never do anything bad but the > > thoughts were popping into his head and wouldn't go away. > > > > My husband & I were at a complete loss for words because our son > > has never seen any really bad movies involving sex and killing. > > However, he does have a PS 2 game system and some of the games > > do have some pretty graphic fighting scenes in them. Needless > > to say, I have destroyed all the games that he had which had > > a rating above " E " -for everyone. > > > > When my son was telling me his thoughts, I began to seriously > > think that he was possessed by a demonic spirit. I was really > > beginning to worry for everyone's safety as I have 2 other > > children in the house. (an 18 month old and a 3 year old) > > > > I thought about taking him to the emergency room but then I > > decided to look online first to see if anyone else was also > > having this happen to them. > > I did a Google search on " bad thoughts in children " and I > > basically was able to find within minutes that he had OCD. > > > > I sat my son down and told him not to worry because he was not > > alone and I let him read some of the posts that I found on the > > internet. He was constantly crying before he read the OCD symptoms because he thought that he was going crazy and that he was going to ultimately harm his family. This also made him feel relieved that I believed him and was going to get him some help. > > > > That following Monday-December 21, I began calling to try to locate > > a child psychiatrist & needless to say, I could not find 1 single psychiatrist who would be able to see him for at least 3 weeks due > > to the holidays. > > On Monday December 28th, after 9 days I finally was starting to fall apart because my son was crying and confessing his intrusive thoughts all week & I knew that my sweet lil boy was going through pure hell & he was now starting to talk about harming himself to make his awful thoughts stop. > > I decided that I couldn't wait for the 3 week appointment because he was now talking suicide and this was now an emergency situation, so, > > I looked up the nearest psych hospital which I discovered was only 15 minutes away and I drove my son directly there. I went to the front desk and told them that my son was having thoughts of harming himself and harming others. I knew that they would have to admit him because > > it would be against the law if they didn't admit him in that mental state. > > Needless to say, he was interviewed by a psychiatrist within 30 minutes and admitted into the hospital right then and there. He was given Ativan and Zoloft along with daily CBT therapy. He was released 7 days later, instructed to take Zoloft 50mg once a day and to have therapy once a week out-patient. > > He was able to return to school the following day after his release from the hospital. However, he did have several sexual intrusive thoughts when he first got in the classroom but he is not having them every 5 minutes anymore and he said that he was able to not worry about them as much as before. > > > > Our therapist told us to get him on the 504 program as soon as > > possible because she has seen too many kids slip through the > > cracks because they just did not get the right help that they > > needed in school-especially keeping them focused. I have already > > filled out the paperwork for the 504 education protection and my appointment is tomorrow morning. > > I am the kind of person who will not take no for an answer especially when it comes at the expense of my kids. > > > > Thanks for listening and I have a feeling that I am > > going to be a member here for a long time. > > > > Hugs, > > . * . + * _ * + . * + . > > + * . * )\O/( * . * + . > > . + . . (o o) + . * + . . * . > > .+ . *. /._.\ ***STAR in TEXAS*** ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I looked at the link you put up and don't really get it, the images my son has are not similar to the " messages " in those cartoons. Like I said earlier we understand that Hospitals, Doctors etc need to rule out abuse, I would expect them to but from everything I have read so far, and I have only been in this a few weeks so I am no expert but it seems these are not images or thoughts that kids get from possibly seeing a penis shaped castle for a milisecond in a disney cartoon. Just my opinion of course, believe me I am looking for answers too so appreciate the question. > > > > > > > > > > From: tammiestarlene <tammiestarlene@ ...> > > > > > Subject: New Here..My 8 Year Old Son Has It Too.. > > > > > To: @ yahoogroups. com > > > > > Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:01 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > > The same thing happened to my son 1 month ago and we were > > > > > > > > > > shocked at the thoughts that he was having. > > > > > > > > > > He is also 8 years old and he is a very sweet child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On December 19th, he said " mom, I am having some horrible > > > > > > > > > > thoughts and I can't stop them or get them to go away. " > > > > > > > > > > He began crying and started going into detail about the thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > He said that he was having thoughts of sex with everyone that he > > > > > > > > > > sees-(both males & females)He said that he had thoughts of killing everyone in the house. He kept crying and said that they were not > > > > > > > > > > how he really feels and that he would never do anything bad but the > > > > > > > > > > thoughts were popping into his head and wouldn't go away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband & I were at a complete loss for words because our son > > > > > > > > > > has never seen any really bad movies involving sex and killing. > > > > > > > > > > However, he does have a PS 2 game system and some of the games > > > > > > > > > > do have some pretty graphic fighting scenes in them. Needless > > > > > > > > > > to say, I have destroyed all the games that he had which had > > > > > > > > > > a rating above " E " -for everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When my son was telling me his thoughts, I began to seriously > > > > > > > > > > think that he was possessed by a demonic spirit. I was really > > > > > > > > > > beginning to worry for everyone's safety as I have 2 other > > > > > > > > > > children in the house. (an 18 month old and a 3 year old) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought about taking him to the emergency room but then I > > > > > > > > > > decided to look online first to see if anyone else was also > > > > > > > > > > having this happen to them. > > > > > > > > > > I did a Google search on " bad thoughts in children " and I > > > > > > > > > > basically was able to find within minutes that he had OCD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I sat my son down and told him not to worry because he was not > > > > > > > > > > alone and I let him read some of the posts that I found on the > > > > > > > > > > internet. He was constantly crying before he read the OCD symptoms because he thought that he was going crazy and that he was going to ultimately harm his family. This also made him feel relieved that I believed him and was going to get him some help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That following Monday-December 21, I began calling to try to locate > > > > > > > > > > a child psychiatrist & needless to say, I could not find 1 single psychiatrist who would be able to see him for at least 3 weeks due > > > > > > > > > > to the holidays. > > > > > > > > > > On Monday December 28th, after 9 days I finally was starting to fall apart because my son was crying and confessing his intrusive thoughts all week & I knew that my sweet lil boy was going through pure hell & he was now starting to talk about harming himself to make his awful thoughts stop. > > > > > > > > > > I decided that I couldn't wait for the 3 week appointment because he was now talking suicide and this was now an emergency situation, so, > > > > > > > > > > I looked up the nearest psych hospital which I discovered was only 15 minutes away and I drove my son directly there. I went to the front desk and told them that my son was having thoughts of harming himself and harming others. I knew that they would have to admit him because > > > > > > > > > > it would be against the law if they didn't admit him in that mental state. > > > > > > > > > > Needless to say, he was interviewed by a psychiatrist within 30 minutes and admitted into the hospital right then and there. He was given Ativan and Zoloft along with daily CBT therapy. He was released 7 days later, instructed to take Zoloft 50mg once a day and to have therapy once a week out-patient. > > > > > > > > > > He was able to return to school the following day after his release from the hospital. However, he did have several sexual intrusive thoughts when he first got in the classroom but he is not having them every 5 minutes anymore and he said that he was able to not worry about them as much as before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our therapist told us to get him on the 504 program as soon as > > > > > > > > > > possible because she has seen too many kids slip through the > > > > > > > > > > cracks because they just did not get the right help that they > > > > > > > > > > needed in school-especially keeping them focused. I have already > > > > > > > > > > filled out the paperwork for the 504 education protection and my appointment is tomorrow morning. > > > > > > > > > > I am the kind of person who will not take no for an answer especially when it comes at the expense of my kids. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for listening and I have a feeling that I am > > > > > > > > > > going to be a member here for a long time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > . * . + * _ * + . * + . > > > > > > > > > > + * . * )\O/( * . * + . > > > > > > > > > > . + . . (o o) + . * + . . * . > > > > > > > > > > .+ . *. /._.\ ***STAR in TEXAS*** ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Hey, I know it sounds unrealistic, and I am truly grasping here too! Does anyone have any ideas as to how these sexual images in such graphic nature get into a poor child's head? It seems like everyone here on the board whose child has these awful thoughts is along the same theme ... never been exposed, very careful on what they watch, etc. I'm just thinking out loud really.  How would they get there? Do you have any ideas, Louis? I have heard of little 6 yr old boys who have violent thoughts of cutting off breasts and then even worse.   I believe these kids have not seen these things, so how could the brain even conjure up these images? These poor little children ... oh, how I hate the OCD monster! Subject: Re: New Here..Fascinating To: Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 6:35 PM  I looked at the link you put up and don't really get it, the images my son has are not similar to the " messages " in those cartoons. Like I said earlier we understand that Hospitals, Doctors etc need to rule out abuse, I would expect them to but from everything I have read so far, and I have only been in this a few weeks so I am no expert but it seems these are not images or thoughts that kids get from possibly seeing a penis shaped castle for a milisecond in a disney cartoon. Just my opinion of course, believe me I am looking for answers too so appreciate the question. > > > > > > > > > > From: tammiestarlene <tammiestarlene@ ...> > > > > > Subject: New Here..My 8 Year Old Son Has It Too.. > > > > > To: @ yahoogroups. com > > > > > Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:01 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > > The same thing happened to my son 1 month ago and we were > > > > > > > > > > shocked at the thoughts that he was having. > > > > > > > > > > He is also 8 years old and he is a very sweet child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On December 19th, he said " mom, I am having some horrible > > > > > > > > > > thoughts and I can't stop them or get them to go away. " > > > > > > > > > > He began crying and started going into detail about the thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > He said that he was having thoughts of sex with everyone that he > > > > > > > > > > sees-(both males & females)He said that he had thoughts of killing everyone in the house. He kept crying and said that they were not > > > > > > > > > > how he really feels and that he would never do anything bad but the > > > > > > > > > > thoughts were popping into his head and wouldn't go away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband & I were at a complete loss for words because our son > > > > > > > > > > has never seen any really bad movies involving sex and killing. > > > > > > > > > > However, he does have a PS 2 game system and some of the games > > > > > > > > > > do have some pretty graphic fighting scenes in them. Needless > > > > > > > > > > to say, I have destroyed all the games that he had which had > > > > > > > > > > a rating above " E " -for everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When my son was telling me his thoughts, I began to seriously > > > > > > > > > > think that he was possessed by a demonic spirit. I was really > > > > > > > > > > beginning to worry for everyone's safety as I have 2 other > > > > > > > > > > children in the house. (an 18 month old and a 3 year old) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought about taking him to the emergency room but then I > > > > > > > > > > decided to look online first to see if anyone else was also > > > > > > > > > > having this happen to them. > > > > > > > > > > I did a Google search on " bad thoughts in children " and I > > > > > > > > > > basically was able to find within minutes that he had OCD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I sat my son down and told him not to worry because he was not > > > > > > > > > > alone and I let him read some of the posts that I found on the > > > > > > > > > > internet. He was constantly crying before he read the OCD symptoms because he thought that he was going crazy and that he was going to ultimately harm his family. This also made him feel relieved that I believed him and was going to get him some help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That following Monday-December 21, I began calling to try to locate > > > > > > > > > > a child psychiatrist & needless to say, I could not find 1 single psychiatrist who would be able to see him for at least 3 weeks due > > > > > > > > > > to the holidays. > > > > > > > > > > On Monday December 28th, after 9 days I finally was starting to fall apart because my son was crying and confessing his intrusive thoughts all week & I knew that my sweet lil boy was going through pure hell & he was now starting to talk about harming himself to make his awful thoughts stop. > > > > > > > > > > I decided that I couldn't wait for the 3 week appointment because he was now talking suicide and this was now an emergency situation, so, > > > > > > > > > > I looked up the nearest psych hospital which I discovered was only 15 minutes away and I drove my son directly there. I went to the front desk and told them that my son was having thoughts of harming himself and harming others. I knew that they would have to admit him because > > > > > > > > > > it would be against the law if they didn't admit him in that mental state. > > > > > > > > > > Needless to say, he was interviewed by a psychiatrist within 30 minutes and admitted into the hospital right then and there. He was given Ativan and Zoloft along with daily CBT therapy. He was released 7 days later, instructed to take Zoloft 50mg once a day and to have therapy once a week out-patient. > > > > > > > > > > He was able to return to school the following day after his release from the hospital. However, he did have several sexual intrusive thoughts when he first got in the classroom but he is not having them every 5 minutes anymore and he said that he was able to not worry about them as much as before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our therapist told us to get him on the 504 program as soon as > > > > > > > > > > possible because she has seen too many kids slip through the > > > > > > > > > > cracks because they just did not get the right help that they > > > > > > > > > > needed in school-especially keeping them focused. I have already > > > > > > > > > > filled out the paperwork for the 504 education protection and my appointment is tomorrow morning. > > > > > > > > > > I am the kind of person who will not take no for an answer especially when it comes at the expense of my kids. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for listening and I have a feeling that I am > > > > > > > > > > going to be a member here for a long time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > . * . + * _ * + . * + . > > > > > > > > > > + * . * )\O/( * . * + . > > > > > > > > > > . + . . (o o) + . * + . . * . > > > > > > > > > > .+ . *. /._.\ ***STAR in TEXAS*** ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I have always wondered this also, because my son, now 8, also suffers from very " bad thoughts " which began abruptly at age 4. He had never been exposed to anything bad either. I could not fathom HOW those horrendous thoughts got into his head. I wish I had answers too!!! Hugs Judy ________________________________ To: Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 5:41:57 PM Subject: Re: Re: New Here..Fascinating  Tammie, Please don't get me wrong. I don't think your son has been exposed to anything at all, and I believe 100% he has not been molested or anything along those lines .. I am just wondering if somehow our kids (with their sticky brains) perhaps pick up on subliminal messages that may or may not be out there perhaps more than someone else would. I am just questioning how in the world a young child who has not been exposed gets images like that in their head. My son had them too, at age 10, and he too had not been exposed to anything and violence I can understand more, but the sexual images -- I don't get that am just wondering if perhaps somehow there is something in the media that is getting those images there. Does anyone else wonder about this? The images can be so graphic that these poor little ones have and how does a young child's mind conjure up these images? From: tammiestarlene <tammiestarlene@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: New Here..Fascinating To: @ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:36 PM  , I am 100% sure that my son has never seen any VERY violent movies i.e. slasher type murder movies. The only violence that he has been exposed to is from watching the evening news and shows on TV like America's Most Wanted and video games. He has NEVER been exposed to any extreme sexual content that does not already come on regular public TV. i.e. xxx movies I do admit that some things on regular public TV are getting more disturbing every year. I am also 100% sure that he has never been molested because I have NEVER let him go to anyone's home or spend the night anywhere else except here. The only other place that he goes is to school. Tammie Starlene .. * . + * _ * + . * + . + * . * )\O/( * . * + . ... + . . (o o) + . * + . . * . ..+ . *. /._.\ ***STAR in Texas*** ~ > > From: tammiestarlene <tammiestarlene@ ...> > Subject: New Here..My 8 Year Old Son Has It Too.. > To: @ yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:01 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > The same thing happened to my son 1 month ago and we were > > shocked at the thoughts that he was having. > > He is also 8 years old and he is a very sweet child. > > > > On December 19th, he said " mom, I am having some horrible > > thoughts and I can't stop them or get them to go away. " > > He began crying and started going into detail about the thoughts. > > He said that he was having thoughts of sex with everyone that he > > sees-(both males & females)He said that he had thoughts of killing everyone in the house. He kept crying and said that they were not > > how he really feels and that he would never do anything bad but the > > thoughts were popping into his head and wouldn't go away. > > > > My husband & I were at a complete loss for words because our son > > has never seen any really bad movies involving sex and killing. > > However, he does have a PS 2 game system and some of the games > > do have some pretty graphic fighting scenes in them. Needless > > to say, I have destroyed all the games that he had which had > > a rating above " E " -for everyone. > > > > When my son was telling me his thoughts, I began to seriously > > think that he was possessed by a demonic spirit. I was really > > beginning to worry for everyone's safety as I have 2 other > > children in the house. (an 18 month old and a 3 year old) > > > > I thought about taking him to the emergency room but then I > > decided to look online first to see if anyone else was also > > having this happen to them. > > I did a Google search on " bad thoughts in children " and I > > basically was able to find within minutes that he had OCD. > > > > I sat my son down and told him not to worry because he was not > > alone and I let him read some of the posts that I found on the > > internet. He was constantly crying before he read the OCD symptoms because he thought that he was going crazy and that he was going to ultimately harm his family. This also made him feel relieved that I believed him and was going to get him some help. > > > > That following Monday-December 21, I began calling to try to locate > > a child psychiatrist & needless to say, I could not find 1 single psychiatrist who would be able to see him for at least 3 weeks due > > to the holidays. > > On Monday December 28th, after 9 days I finally was starting to fall apart because my son was crying and confessing his intrusive thoughts all week & I knew that my sweet lil boy was going through pure hell & he was now starting to talk about harming himself to make his awful thoughts stop. > > I decided that I couldn't wait for the 3 week appointment because he was now talking suicide and this was now an emergency situation, so, > > I looked up the nearest psych hospital which I discovered was only 15 minutes away and I drove my son directly there. I went to the front desk and told them that my son was having thoughts of harming himself and harming others. I knew that they would have to admit him because > > it would be against the law if they didn't admit him in that mental state. > > Needless to say, he was interviewed by a psychiatrist within 30 minutes and admitted into the hospital right then and there. He was given Ativan and Zoloft along with daily CBT therapy. He was released 7 days later, instructed to take Zoloft 50mg once a day and to have therapy once a week out-patient. > > He was able to return to school the following day after his release from the hospital. However, he did have several sexual intrusive thoughts when he first got in the classroom but he is not having them every 5 minutes anymore and he said that he was able to not worry about them as much as before. > > > > Our therapist told us to get him on the 504 program as soon as > > possible because she has seen too many kids slip through the > > cracks because they just did not get the right help that they > > needed in school-especially keeping them focused. I have already > > filled out the paperwork for the 504 education protection and my appointment is tomorrow morning. > > I am the kind of person who will not take no for an answer especially when it comes at the expense of my kids. > > > > Thanks for listening and I have a feeling that I am > > going to be a member here for a long time. > > > > Hugs, > > . * . + * _ * + . * + . > > + * . * )\O/( * . * + . > > . + . . (o o) + . * + . . * . > > .+ . *. /._.\ ***STAR in TEXAS*** ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Well, these are my rambling thoughts on this and remember I have a " touch " of OCD too. I think back to when I was growing up (I'm 50+) and recall the old rhyme we would say " cross my heart, hope to die, stick a needle in my eye " for keeping a promise or something. Well I certainly thought a bit about that " stick a needle... " part and would get an image of it. And I'll admit to this too, don't laugh too hard. So far as boys and " body parts. " Well I'd only ever seen a " wee-wee " (I'll use polite term here) when a mom was changing a diaper. So, figuring it wouldn't always stay " that size " I did occasionally spend time wondering just how that thing must look as boys grew, just like that baby's but bigger, how big, did it change....? ) Watching Gunsmoke or other westerns -- well, somehow when some cowboy was looking at some saloon girl or some female prisoner " that way " and with the music, I just KNEW he wanted to kiss her and take her clothes off. And all that was before I knew what sex was and how babies were made. And no graphic violence for us either growing up. It's just instinctive, it's just *there*. I've had the " thought " type OCD (my " touch " of OCD), and things will just pop into your head. I always just said if it was the worst thing to think or you knew you shouldn't think it or picture it, then you will; called it my " contrary brain. " Apologized to God with a " sorry, you know my contrary brain. " And I shrug it off. My son just can't. But also I think different for me is that I haven't had the constant thoughts going on, I can well imagine that would drive me a bit insane or temper would show if the thoughts were there every hour, all day. I really sympathize with those who go through this. So, just my thoughts this p.m. > > Hey, I know it sounds unrealistic, and I am truly grasping here too! Does anyone have any ideas as to how these sexual images in such graphic nature get into a poor child's head? It seems like everyone here on the board whose child has these awful thoughts is along the same theme ... never been exposed, very careful on what they watch, etc. I'm just thinking out loud really.  How would they get there? Do you have any ideas, Louis? I have heard of little 6 yr old boys who have violent thoughts of cutting off breasts and then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 , I've often wondered that. I dont' know how a young child can have these thoughts and images when they haven't ever seen anything, but I know that it happens. How does their brain conjour that up? I know that sometimes it's children even younger. I don't get it! Dina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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