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Sam,

I, too, have failed on two BRM's (Enbrel and Remicade) but now Kineret has

been working for a while. I take it with Arava and haven't had to take anymore

MTX. Of course the need for prednisone comes and goes...right now I am at 15

mg per day. As far as a second opinion goes, I live in S.W. Missouri and when

I was diagnosed, the Hospital Pathologist was so unsure of my rheumy's rare

diagnosis that they elected to send my entire medical file (pretty big at this

point) to Stanford for a second opinion. They concurred with my rheumy and

the diagnosis still stands seven years later. You can bet that if I were as

close as you are to Stanford, I probably would have been seen there. I have

traveled as far as St. Louis University (5hrs) for second opinions on joints and

surgeries, but it sure wasn't easy. Travel is never easy when you are sick and

hurting, but sometimes it is necessary. Hope my experience can help you

somehow. Take care.

Stay Healthy

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Hello Everyone,

I am having trouble getting this thing under control. I am currently

tapering off of prednisone because I really did not feel any better

on the low maintenance dose and 60 mg a day is not an option. I take

max methotrexate once a week in pill form, tried the shots and did

not see a difference. I have been through both Enbrel and Humira and

have " failed " at both of them. I am supposed to call my

rheumatologist Thursday and let him know if the last Humira shot did

any good, it did not. The next step is Remicade. I am fine with the

new med, had been really nervous about IV infusion but have settled

my nerves. So, today I saw my primary care who coordinates everything

( I am also doing physical therapy 3 times a week and seeing a family

therapist once a week). I asked her if it would be a good idea to go

to Stanford or UCSF and get a second opinion. What I am hoping for is

someone to re-do the x-rays, blood work, exam, consult and just re-

enforce what my rheumatologist is doing. Maybe there's a super secret

amazing cure hiding somewhere. At any rate, it's going to take a

while for the referral to get underway.

Has anyone else done this kind of thing?

Do you inform your current rheumatologist that you're getting the

other opinion?

Has anyone travelled away from home to get the second opinion? I live

about 2 hours from Stanford and San Francisco... do you think they

will be able to coordinate all the tests, consults etc... for a one

day super-appointment? Maybe just one overnight?

On another note, I need help clarifying my diagnosis. When I was

first diagnosed at 16 they called it Still's Disease/JRA. Now that is

has come out of remission is it just Still's or is it still

considered JRA because it first appeared when I was young? Or do we

just call it RA at this point since I don't have the fevers

regularly.... When you explain to someone what you have how do

categorize it? It's come up a lot lately since I am limping a bit

more and puffy so more people seem to ask about it.

Thanks for all your input and I am getting really excited to meet

everyone in Las Vegas!!!!

Sam

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Sam, we're really excited to meet you also. Dear, I think that it sometimes

takes a few years to find the right medications that work and while I think a

second opinion is fine, I wouldn't run from doctor to doctor looking for a magic

cure. I've used the same doctor since 1977. He's good, he diagnosed me, took

me into remission for years at a time and is a very caring man. I saw someone

else for a short time and wasn't as comfortable. He diagnosed mine as AOSD,

Adult Onset Stills Disease although I was just young at the time. I don't have

many sympoms now days but am left with damage from the years past. I hope any

of this helps. By the way, I travel a couple hours one way to see him every two

months also and find it worth the trip.

Wishes for better health Sam and see you soon,

Second Opinions...

Hello Everyone,

I am having trouble getting this thing under control. I am currently

tapering off of prednisone because I really did not feel any better

on the low maintenance dose and 60 mg a day is not an option.

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Just wondering - when you say your doctor helped you to be in

remission for years - does that mean " drug free " remission?

Thanks,

> Sam, we're really excited to meet you also.  Dear, I think that it

> sometimes takes a few years to find the right medications that work

> and while I think a second opinion is fine, I wouldn't run from doctor

> to doctor looking for a magic cure.  I've used the same doctor since

> 1977.  He's good, he diagnosed me, took me into remission for years at

> a time and is a very caring man.  I saw someone else for a short time

> and wasn't as comfortable.  He diagnosed mine as AOSD, Adult Onset

> Stills Disease although I was just young at the time.  I don't have

> many sympoms now days but am left with damage from the years past.  I

> hope any of this helps.  By the way, I travel a couple hours one way

> to see him every two months also and find it worth the trip.

> Wishes for better health Sam and see you soon,

>   Second Opinions...

>

>

>   Hello Everyone,

>   I am having trouble getting  this thing under control. I am

> currently 

>   tapering off of prednisone because I really did not feel any better 

>   on the low maintenance dose and 60 mg a day is not an option.

>

>

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Yes, except for Naprosin.

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From: sullivan

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Just wondering - when you say your doctor helped you to be in

remission for years - does that mean " drug free " remission?

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Penacilamine and Prednisone put me into remission for many years during the

80's, without fevers or meds except for the Naprosin and pain killers for damage

that had occured. I had a bit of a flare the first of the year so am now on MTX

and Naprosin but doing pretty well. Hope this explains it better. Melt

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Just wondering - when you say your doctor helped you to be in

remission for years - does that mean " drug free " remission?

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