Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 Debi, I highly recommend NAET. I really hope you can convince the father to give alternative therapies a try. http://tinyurl.com/njecz http://allergyfree.tripod.com/id22.htm > A dear friend is considering marrying someone whose 5 year-old > daughter strongly appears to have ADHD. She bounces off the walls with > hyperness and seems unable to focus, even on things she enjoys. She's > asked me to speak with the father, who has custody of his daughter, > about the Feingold Diet and fatty acid therapy. Anyone know of any > other biological interventions that could prevent him from turning to > meds? > > TIA, > Debi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 Thanks, . I'm hoping by approaching the subject with " this is a physical problem, this is how to eliminate the cause " then he'll be much more receptive. Friend said he has considered it before but can't get past the guilt of meds. Hopefully this will help him consider other treatments first. Debi > > Debi, > > I highly recommend NAET. I really hope you can convince the father > to give alternative therapies a try. > > http://tinyurl.com/njecz > > http://allergyfree.tripod.com/id22.htm > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 For what it's worth, I'm a Feingold success story. When I went on it my grade point raised a whole .5 in one semester. And I got almost all As in college till the bipolar got bad and the seizures went from subclinical to clinical. Unfortunately, I also know a girl with Aspergers who's on it, and with that black/white thinking believes all meds are bad. Every one of them. Unless it keeps you from promptly dying. And she has a specific phobia to everything, has terrible social anxiety (always asked me if things were ok, etc), and could probably benifit from pharmaceutical intervention for anxiety, if not now than in the future. She's got a lot of potential...but she also yelled at me for taking epilepsy meds...so...yeah. It isn't always the full answer, even if it's part of the puzzle. And I do the fatty acid thing too, they can't hurt, I don't know if they can help-they make me less of a space case but I still am indeed a high energy space case. I've also heard that dance class, martial arts, and gymnastics all help with ADHD, in that they require focus, teach MORE focus and control, and help burn off the energy. I've seen it with my own eyes too, teaching tumbling. And, well, that's all I can think of. I personally thing ALL 5 year olds are " ADHD " , but they expect rediculous things of kids at school now so the ones who are less mature/need more movement time often get a label slapped on them that isn't accurate. Kassiane who has similar feelings about this 'mild dyslexia' trend in kindergarten/first grade classes-kids just aren't always neurologically READY till they're seven. Argh. Off soapbox now. --- Debi wrote: > A dear friend is considering marrying someone whose > 5 year-old > daughter strongly appears to have ADHD. She bounces > off the walls with > hyperness and seems unable to focus, even on things > she enjoys. She's > asked me to speak with the father, who has custody > of his daughter, > about the Feingold Diet and fatty acid therapy. > Anyone know of any > other biological interventions that could prevent > him from turning to > meds? > > TIA, > Debi > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Please don't do meds! My step-son was on them all at one time or another; Ritalin, Adderall, and something that started with a C. HE tells stories now of how he felt like he was " sleep walking " through life. IT socially isolated him because he couldn't respond to his friends. When they took him off the meds, the doctor suddenly stopped the doses without weaning. Then my stepson spiraled into a deep depression latching onto music by Slipknot, dressing like the dead, and carving into his arm with shards of metal. He failed the 8th grade and then ended up in an alternative school for making terrorist threats. It took the better part of two years for the spontaneous vomiting, anger fits and self-deprecation to cease. It was terrible. Now he is nearly 16 and finally doing well. He has focus issues but we are working on them step by step. Meds are easier for parents because it seems to be an immediate solution. But I am telling you it is NOT a solution at all. Children with ADD need attention and usually more attention than your average child. My stepson is a lot of work to raise, but at least now he is happy with who he is, expressing his emotions in healthy ways and is allowed to be the person he chooses to be. Even God doesn't mess with free will. My stepson may make bad choices but at least they are HIS choices and not induced by medication. ADD drugs are horrible and should be outlawed. My opinion anyway. Nadine Re: ADHD advice For what it's worth, I'm a Feingold success story. When I went on it my grade point raised a whole .5 in one semester. And I got almost all As in college till the bipolar got bad and the seizures went from subclinical to clinical. Unfortunately, I also know a girl with Aspergers who's on it, and with that black/white thinking believes all meds are bad. Every one of them. Unless it keeps you from promptly dying. And she has a specific phobia to everything, has terrible social anxiety (always asked me if things were ok, etc), and could probably benifit from pharmaceutical intervention for anxiety, if not now than in the future. She's got a lot of potential...but she also yelled at me for taking epilepsy meds...so...yeah. It isn't always the full answer, even if it's part of the puzzle. And I do the fatty acid thing too, they can't hurt, I don't know if they can help-they make me less of a space case but I still am indeed a high energy space case. I've also heard that dance class, martial arts, and gymnastics all help with ADHD, in that they require focus, teach MORE focus and control, and help burn off the energy. I've seen it with my own eyes too, teaching tumbling. And, well, that's all I can think of. I personally thing ALL 5 year olds are " ADHD " , but they expect rediculous things of kids at school now so the ones who are less mature/need more movement time often get a label slapped on them that isn't accurate. Kassiane who has similar feelings about this 'mild dyslexia' trend in kindergarten/first grade classes-kids just aren't always neurologically READY till they're seven. Argh. Off soapbox now. --- Debi wrote: > A dear friend is considering marrying someone whose > 5 year-old > daughter strongly appears to have ADHD. She bounces > off the walls with > hyperness and seems unable to focus, even on things > she enjoys. She's > asked me to speak with the father, who has custody > of his daughter, > about the Feingold Diet and fatty acid therapy. > Anyone know of any > other biological interventions that could prevent > him from turning to > meds? > > TIA, > Debi > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Hi I just wanted to let you know that this vitamin B12 Iv shots that my daughter is scheduled to begin. Is also used to help with ADD/ADHD in fact it is more so for that than autism. If you ask a doctor about it they can show you how and why it is supposed to help, or I can send you an attatchment of the paperwork I recieved on it of post if you would like to share this info with the dad of your friends boyfriend. As far as 's step son. I am so sorry he had to go through that , it is aweful. I am glad to hear that he is doing a little better. Esther --- wrote: > Please don't do meds! My step-son was on them all > at one time or another; > Ritalin, Adderall, and something that started with a > C. HE tells stories > now of how he felt like he was " sleep walking " > through life. IT socially > isolated him because he couldn't respond to his > friends. When they took him > off the meds, the doctor suddenly stopped the doses > without weaning. Then > my stepson spiraled into a deep depression latching > onto music by Slipknot, > dressing like the dead, and carving into his arm > with shards of metal. He > failed the 8th grade and then ended up in an > alternative school for making > terrorist threats. It took the better part of two > years for the spontaneous > vomiting, anger fits and self-deprecation to cease. > It was terrible. > > > > Now he is nearly 16 and finally doing well. He has > focus issues but we are > working on them step by step. Meds are easier for > parents because it seems > to be an immediate solution. But I am telling you > it is NOT a solution at > all. Children with ADD need attention and usually > more attention than your > average child. My stepson is a lot of work to > raise, but at least now he is > happy with who he is, expressing his emotions in > healthy ways and is allowed > to be the person he chooses to be. Even God doesn't > mess with free will. > My stepson may make bad choices but at least they > are HIS choices and not > induced by medication. > > > > ADD drugs are horrible and should be outlawed. My > opinion anyway. > > > > Nadine > > > > > > Re: ADHD advice > > > > For what it's worth, I'm a Feingold success story. > When I went on it my grade point raised a whole .5 > in > one semester. And I got almost all As in college > till > the bipolar got bad and the seizures went from > subclinical to clinical. Unfortunately, I also know > a > girl with Aspergers who's on it, and with that > black/white thinking believes all meds are bad. > Every > one of them. Unless it keeps you from promptly > dying. > And she has a specific phobia to everything, has > terrible social anxiety (always asked me if things > were ok, etc), and could probably benifit from > pharmaceutical intervention for anxiety, if not now > than in the future. She's got a lot of > potential...but > she also yelled at me for taking epilepsy > meds...so...yeah. It isn't always the full answer, > even if it's part of the puzzle. > > And I do the fatty acid thing too, they can't hurt, > I > don't know if they can help-they make me less of a > space case but I still am indeed a high energy space > case. > > I've also heard that dance class, martial arts, and > gymnastics all help with ADHD, in that they require > focus, teach MORE focus and control, and help burn > off > the energy. I've seen it with my own eyes too, > teaching tumbling. > > And, well, that's all I can think of. I personally > thing ALL 5 year olds are " ADHD " , but they expect > rediculous things of kids at school now so the ones > who are less mature/need more movement time often > get > a label slapped on them that isn't accurate. > > Kassiane > who has similar feelings about this 'mild dyslexia' > trend in kindergarten/first grade classes-kids just > aren't always neurologically READY till they're > seven. > Argh. Off soapbox now. > > > --- Debi wrote: > > > A dear friend is considering marrying someone > whose > > 5 year-old > > daughter strongly appears to have ADHD. She > bounces > > off the walls with > > hyperness and seems unable to focus, even on > things > > she enjoys. She's > > asked me to speak with the father, who has custody > > of his daughter, > > about the Feingold Diet and fatty acid therapy. > > Anyone know of any > > other biological interventions that could prevent > > him from turning to > > meds? > > > > TIA, > > Debi > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Esther, I think shots and IVs are little different. IF you're doing the methyl b-12, it's a subcutaneous. If it follows Dr. Neubrander's protocol it's supposed to seep through the fatty tissue of the buttocks. An IV goes directly into the veins, tends to last several minutes to hours, and has a much higher impact. Thanks for the info that it helps ADD/HD. I'll definitely pass it along when I think the dad can comprehend it, I've realized I can't give too much info at once, lol. Debi, whose daughter is doing great with b-12 & naltrexone combo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 --- It always angers me when people knock meds, if not for meds, my daughter would not be able to learn, sit, focus, socialize, etc.... Having been on both sides of the fence, once trying medication, she was happy, able to be like any other neurotypical child, it raised her self esteem and her quality of life. I would give her insulin if she were a diabetic, I am giving her dexedrine because she has a neuro-chemical imbalance. If she didn't, the medication would not work, they are working beautifully nad she reminds me to give them to her because of the tremendous outcome. I personally feel like it would be cruel to deny her a quality of life by denying her medication. In Autism_in_Girls , " " wrote: > > Please don't do meds! My step-son was on them all at one time or another; > Ritalin, Adderall, and something that started with a C. HE tells stories > now of how he felt like he was " sleep walking " through life. IT socially > isolated him because he couldn't respond to his friends. When they took him > off the meds, the doctor suddenly stopped the doses without weaning. Then > my stepson spiraled into a deep depression latching onto music by Slipknot, > dressing like the dead, and carving into his arm with shards of metal. He > failed the 8th grade and then ended up in an alternative school for making > terrorist threats. It took the better part of two years for the spontaneous > vomiting, anger fits and self-deprecation to cease. It was terrible. > > > > Now he is nearly 16 and finally doing well. He has focus issues but we are > working on them step by step. Meds are easier for parents because it seems > to be an immediate solution. But I am telling you it is NOT a solution at > all. Children with ADD need attention and usually more attention than your > average child. My stepson is a lot of work to raise, but at least now he is > happy with who he is, expressing his emotions in healthy ways and is allowed > to be the person he chooses to be. Even God doesn't mess with free will. > My stepson may make bad choices but at least they are HIS choices and not > induced by medication. > > > > ADD drugs are horrible and should be outlawed. My opinion anyway. > > > > Nadine > > > > > > Re: ADHD advice > > > > For what it's worth, I'm a Feingold success story. > When I went on it my grade point raised a whole .5 in > one semester. And I got almost all As in college till > the bipolar got bad and the seizures went from > subclinical to clinical. Unfortunately, I also know a > girl with Aspergers who's on it, and with that > black/white thinking believes all meds are bad. Every > one of them. Unless it keeps you from promptly dying. > And she has a specific phobia to everything, has > terrible social anxiety (always asked me if things > were ok, etc), and could probably benifit from > pharmaceutical intervention for anxiety, if not now > than in the future. She's got a lot of potential...but > she also yelled at me for taking epilepsy > meds...so...yeah. It isn't always the full answer, > even if it's part of the puzzle. > > And I do the fatty acid thing too, they can't hurt, I > don't know if they can help-they make me less of a > space case but I still am indeed a high energy space > case. > > I've also heard that dance class, martial arts, and > gymnastics all help with ADHD, in that they require > focus, teach MORE focus and control, and help burn off > the energy. I've seen it with my own eyes too, > teaching tumbling. > > And, well, that's all I can think of. I personally > thing ALL 5 year olds are " ADHD " , but they expect > rediculous things of kids at school now so the ones > who are less mature/need more movement time often get > a label slapped on them that isn't accurate. > > Kassiane > who has similar feelings about this 'mild dyslexia' > trend in kindergarten/first grade classes-kids just > aren't always neurologically READY till they're seven. > Argh. Off soapbox now. > > > --- Debi wrote: > > > A dear friend is considering marrying someone whose > > 5 year-old > > daughter strongly appears to have ADHD. She bounces > > off the walls with > > hyperness and seems unable to focus, even on things > > she enjoys. She's > > asked me to speak with the father, who has custody > > of his daughter, > > about the Feingold Diet and fatty acid therapy. > > Anyone know of any > > other biological interventions that could prevent > > him from turning to > > meds? > > > > TIA, > > Debi > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Diane, I know how you feel, I think so many forget to question the doctors and give up and sometimes they don't work for everyone. When my daughter went on clondine and then everyone had an opinion. But they are not walking in my shoes and she is doing so well, I feel lucky. So I say god bless us all and the choices we make > --- It always angers me when people knock meds, if not for meds, my > daughter would not be able to learn, sit, focus, socialize, etc.... > Having been on both sides of the fence, once trying medication, she > was happy, able to be like any other neurotypical child, it raised > her self esteem and her quality of life. I would give her insulin if > she were a diabetic, I am giving her dexedrine because she has a > neuro-chemical imbalance. If she didn't, the medication would not > work, they are working beautifully nad she reminds me to give them > to her because of the tremendous outcome. I personally feel like it > would be cruel to deny her a quality of life by denying her > medication. > > In Autism_in_Girls , " " wrote: > > > > Please don't do meds! My step-son was on them all at one time or > another; > > Ritalin, Adderall, and something that started with a C. HE tells > stories > > now of how he felt like he was " sleep walking " through life. IT > socially > > isolated him because he couldn't respond to his friends. When > they took him > > off the meds, the doctor suddenly stopped the doses without > weaning. Then > > my stepson spiraled into a deep depression latching onto music by > Slipknot, > > dressing like the dead, and carving into his arm with shards of > metal. He > > failed the 8th grade and then ended up in an alternative school > for making > > terrorist threats. It took the better part of two years for the > spontaneous > > vomiting, anger fits and self-deprecation to cease. It was > terrible. > > > > > > > > Now he is nearly 16 and finally doing well. He has focus issues > but we are > > working on them step by step. Meds are easier for parents because > it seems > > to be an immediate solution. But I am telling you it is NOT a > solution at > > all. Children with ADD need attention and usually more attention > than your > > average child. My stepson is a lot of work to raise, but at least > now he is > > happy with who he is, expressing his emotions in healthy ways and > is allowed > > to be the person he chooses to be. Even God doesn't mess with > free will. > > My stepson may make bad choices but at least they are HIS choices > and not > > induced by medication. > > > > > > > > ADD drugs are horrible and should be outlawed. My opinion anyway. > > > > > > > > Nadine > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: ADHD advice > > > > > > > > For what it's worth, I'm a Feingold success story. > > When I went on it my grade point raised a whole .5 in > > one semester. And I got almost all As in college till > > the bipolar got bad and the seizures went from > > subclinical to clinical. Unfortunately, I also know a > > girl with Aspergers who's on it, and with that > > black/white thinking believes all meds are bad. Every > > one of them. Unless it keeps you from promptly dying. > > And she has a specific phobia to everything, has > > terrible social anxiety (always asked me if things > > were ok, etc), and could probably benifit from > > pharmaceutical intervention for anxiety, if not now > > than in the future. She's got a lot of potential...but > > she also yelled at me for taking epilepsy > > meds...so...yeah. It isn't always the full answer, > > even if it's part of the puzzle. > > > > And I do the fatty acid thing too, they can't hurt, I > > don't know if they can help-they make me less of a > > space case but I still am indeed a high energy space > > case. > > > > I've also heard that dance class, martial arts, and > > gymnastics all help with ADHD, in that they require > > focus, teach MORE focus and control, and help burn off > > the energy. I've seen it with my own eyes too, > > teaching tumbling. > > > > And, well, that's all I can think of. I personally > > thing ALL 5 year olds are " ADHD " , but they expect > > rediculous things of kids at school now so the ones > > who are less mature/need more movement time often get > > a label slapped on them that isn't accurate. > > > > Kassiane > > who has similar feelings about this 'mild dyslexia' > > trend in kindergarten/first grade classes-kids just > > aren't always neurologically READY till they're seven. > > Argh. Off soapbox now. > > > > > > --- Debi wrote: > > > > > A dear friend is considering marrying someone whose > > > 5 year-old > > > daughter strongly appears to have ADHD. She bounces > > > off the walls with > > > hyperness and seems unable to focus, even on things > > > she enjoys. She's > > > asked me to speak with the father, who has custody > > > of his daughter, > > > about the Feingold Diet and fatty acid therapy. > > > Anyone know of any > > > other biological interventions that could prevent > > > him from turning to > > > meds? > > > > > > TIA, > > > Debi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 I don't think parents should shut the door on any possibilities. Yes, diet changes work for some. Supplements work for some. Meds work for many. Personally, I think all options should be explored. What works (or doesn't work) for one may be totally different for another. We just need to have open minds. Also, if one med doesn't work, that doesn't mean all meds are out...my husband has GAD and OCD, and had to try several different medications along with counseling, supplements, and diet change to find the right combination of treatments that helped him. Amnesty > > > > > > > A dear friend is considering marrying someone whose > > > > 5 year-old > > > > daughter strongly appears to have ADHD. She bounces > > > > off the walls with > > > > hyperness and seems unable to focus, even on things > > > > she enjoys. She's > > > > asked me to speak with the father, who has custody > > > > of his daughter, > > > > about the Feingold Diet and fatty acid therapy. > > > > Anyone know of any > > > > other biological interventions that could prevent > > > > him from turning to > > > > meds? > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > Debi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 I guess some better detail with my step son may be needed because I think I started in the middle of the thought. There are children like your daughter that need meds to function and I would never tell you not to give them to her. I am sure you have made the best choice for your daughter. My stepson however, I am not even sure he has the disorder. His grades dropped slightly in the 5th grade, he is disorganized, forgetful and resistance to subjects he doesn't enjoy. Because of this his mother had him medicated and since she works in the school system had connections to doctors willing to prescribe meds without a medical evaluation or testing. The doctor simply went on the mother's account of the kid's behavior. I suppose I should say explore all other options first. Get all the proper testing and get second opinions. Trust your own instincts and weight the side effects of the meds against the severity of your child's problem. Please don't allow you child to end up like my step son - medicated for a disorder he doesn't have. Sorry if I angered anyone. Not my intention. I am just still very hurt by the struggle I just endured with my step-son and felt his mothers action to medicate was without proper ground. Now a child that had small scholastic issues has much bigger problems. Nadine Re: ADHD advice > > > > > > > > For what it's worth, I'm a Feingold success story. > > When I went on it my grade point raised a whole .5 in > > one semester. And I got almost all As in college till > > the bipolar got bad and the seizures went from > > subclinical to clinical. Unfortunately, I also know a > > girl with Aspergers who's on it, and with that > > black/white thinking believes all meds are bad. Every > > one of them. Unless it keeps you from promptly dying. > > And she has a specific phobia to everything, has > > terrible social anxiety (always asked me if things > > were ok, etc), and could probably benifit from > > pharmaceutical intervention for anxiety, if not now > > than in the future. She's got a lot of potential...but > > she also yelled at me for taking epilepsy > > meds...so...yeah. It isn't always the full answer, > > even if it's part of the puzzle. > > > > And I do the fatty acid thing too, they can't hurt, I > > don't know if they can help-they make me less of a > > space case but I still am indeed a high energy space > > case. > > > > I've also heard that dance class, martial arts, and > > gymnastics all help with ADHD, in that they require > > focus, teach MORE focus and control, and help burn off > > the energy. I've seen it with my own eyes too, > > teaching tumbling. > > > > And, well, that's all I can think of. I personally > > thing ALL 5 year olds are " ADHD " , but they expect > > rediculous things of kids at school now so the ones > > who are less mature/need more movement time often get > > a label slapped on them that isn't accurate. > > > > Kassiane > > who has similar feelings about this 'mild dyslexia' > > trend in kindergarten/first grade classes-kids just > > aren't always neurologically READY till they're seven. > > Argh. Off soapbox now. > > > > > > --- Debi wrote: > > > > > A dear friend is considering marrying someone whose > > > 5 year-old > > > daughter strongly appears to have ADHD. She bounces > > > off the walls with > > > hyperness and seems unable to focus, even on things > > > she enjoys. She's > > > asked me to speak with the father, who has custody > > > of his daughter, > > > about the Feingold Diet and fatty acid therapy. > > > Anyone know of any > > > other biological interventions that could prevent > > > him from turning to > > > meds? > > > > > > TIA, > > > Debi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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