Re: 7 year old with sudden OCD

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That " hyperness " can be a side effect of her med (psychomotor agitation,

akathisia). Have you told the psychiatrist about it and the school's concerns?

Sometimes this side effect will level off and improve - especially if the

drug/dose is new, but it may take a couple of weeks. Your doc may want to

decrease the dose and then increase it more slowly. If it continues to get

worse or other behaviors appear, you have to question the meds even if the doc

won't. This has always been my biggest issue with docs. They just don't see in

a 5-15 min visit what I see all day. Ask very direct and pointed questions

like, " Why don't you think it's the drug " (that is if you think it's the drug),

or " What should we do if it doesn't get better - how long should I wait " .

That's s give you an idea about the doc and it'll give you an answer for the

school.

I hope it gets better soon. Are her compulsions better?

Bonnie

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>  My daughter is 7 years old and just recently started  obsessing over sexual

thoughts. It came on so suddenly and was quite alarming to my husband and I.

 Some of the things she is confessing to me is shocking.  Not only is she

struggling with her sexually obsessive thoughts, but she's started with some

physical obsessions like re-strapping her shoes over and over, re-tucking her

shirt dozens of times because of the way the buttons feel on her stomach, not

being able to lay her head down on her pillow at night until her head is

completely centered in the middle of the pillow. At times, she gets so worked

up, she has full blown panic attacks. We were so very fortunate to get her in

with a psychiatrist immediately. He wanted her started on Zoloft. I was very

hesitant with this decision, but finally started the meds after witnessing her

severe anxiety. Aside from her being extremely hyper, I have not noticed any

other side effects from the Zoloft. I am

> concerned  with this hyper stage as her teacher has shared with me that it is

starting to cause some problems in the classroon.  The obsessive thoughts and

the need to share them have improved some.  My daughter is very comfortable

coming to me and talking about what's bothering her. We're remaining very

supportive with her through this difficult time. I am so curious if any other

parents out there are experiencing similar things. This is so new to us, we are

still in shock mode. Any advice would be so greatly

appreciated!!Sincerely, 

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We started her on 25mg of Zoloft on November 2nd, so perhaps this hyperness will

improve. We were originally giving her this med at night, but she was waking up

during the middle of night and staying up for hours. Her doctor advised us to

start giving the med in the morning, so now during school she is super active

and I really notice it on the weekends when I'm home with her all day long. I

will call her doctor this week and relay the schools concern, as well as

ours.Her compulsions are better. Her nighttime routine with her pillow is down

to 5 minutes vs 40 minutes and I've switched her over to elastic pants vs any

with buttons so that is no longer an issue for her. Thank you Bonnie for all

the advice! I am thankful!Angie

Subject: Re: 7 year old with sudden OCD

To:

Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 5:18 PM

 

That " hyperness " can be a side effect of her med (psychomotor agitation,

akathisia). Have you told the psychiatrist about it and the school's concerns?

Sometimes this side effect will level off and improve - especially if the

drug/dose is new, but it may take a couple of weeks. Your doc may want to

decrease the dose and then increase it more slowly. If it continues to get

worse or other behaviors appear, you have to question the meds even if the doc

won't. This has always been my biggest issue with docs. They just don't see in

a 5-15 min visit what I see all day. Ask very direct and pointed questions

like, " Why don't you think it's the drug " (that is if you think it's the drug),

or " What should we do if it doesn't get better - how long should I wait " .

That's s give you an idea about the doc and it'll give you an answer for the

school.

I hope it gets better soon. Are her compulsions better?

Bonnie

>

>  My daughter is 7 years old and just recently started  obsessing over sexual

thoughts. It came on so suddenly and was quite alarming to my husband and I.

 Some of the things she is confessing to me is shocking.  Not only is she

struggling with her sexually obsessive thoughts, but she's started with some

physical obsessions like re-strapping her shoes over and over, re-tucking her

shirt dozens of times because of the way the buttons feel on her stomach, not

being able to lay her head down on her pillow at night until her head is

completely centered in the middle of the pillow. At times, she gets so worked

up, she has full blown panic attacks. We were so very fortunate to get her in

with a psychiatrist immediately. He wanted her started on Zoloft. I was very

hesitant with this decision, but finally started the meds after witnessing her

severe anxiety. Aside from her being extremely hyper, I have not noticed any

other side effects from the Zoloft. I

am

> concerned  with this hyper stage as her teacher has shared with me that it

is starting to cause some problems in the classroon.  The obsessive thoughts

and the need to share them have improved some.  My daughter is very comfortable

coming to me and talking about what's bothering her. We're remaining very

supportive with her through this difficult time. I am so curious if any other

parents out there are experiencing similar things. This is so new to us, we are

still in shock mode. Any advice would be so greatly appreciated! !Sincerely, 

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Zoloft takes a while to work to maximum effect, a month to 6 weeks. If,

after that time, there is no change, ask the doctor for a different

medication. My son, at age 12, had similar severe symptoms and he was put

on Prozac and within a month they were gone. He still, as a young adult,

obsessives over little things, but he is able to live a happy and normal

life.*

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I also have found over the years that a new med takes about a month to note it's

real effects. It does sound like a side effect as it seems to be related to its

administration. Keep your eye on it and you should be able to intervene in a

timely fashion if you need to.

Best,

Bonnie

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> >  My daughter is 7 years old and just recently started  obsessing over

sexual thoughts. It came on so suddenly and was quite alarming to my husband and

I.  Some of the things she is confessing to me is shocking.  Not only is she

struggling with her sexually obsessive thoughts, but she's started with some

physical obsessions like re-strapping her shoes over and over, re-tucking her

shirt dozens of times because of the way the buttons feel on her stomach, not

being able to lay her head down on her pillow at night until her head is

completely centered in the middle of the pillow. At times, she gets so worked

up, she has full blown panic attacks. We were so very fortunate to get her in

with a psychiatrist immediately. He wanted her started on Zoloft. I was very

hesitant with this decision, but finally started the meds after witnessing her

severe anxiety. Aside from her being extremely hyper, I have not noticed any

other side effects from the Zoloft. I

> am

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> > concerned  with this hyper stage as her teacher has shared with me that it

is starting to cause some problems in the classroon.  The obsessive thoughts

and the need to share them have improved some.  My daughter is very comfortable

coming to me and talking about what's bothering her. We're remaining very

supportive with her through this difficult time. I am so curious if any other

parents out there are experiencing similar things. This is so new to us, we are

still in shock mode. Any advice would be so greatly appreciated! !Sincerely, 

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Ever hear of the onset of OCD due to previous unwanted " sex play " . My daughter

has confided in me that a classmate and neighbor (both girls and of the same

age) had done some sex play with her in the months leading up to her OCD

symptoms. She feels the need to re-tell these stories over and over. She's super

sensitive to anything sexual in nature. Seeing kissing on T.V., someone hugging

in public, a suggestive song etc triggers her sexual anxiety. We've really

mainstreamed what we let her listen to or watch on t.v. I've communicated all

this with her doctor. Curious what you thought about this. 

Subject: Re: 7 year old with sudden OCD

To:

Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 6:10 PM

 

I also have found over the years that a new med takes about a month to

note it's real effects. It does sound like a side effect as it seems to be

related to its administration. Keep your eye on it and you should be able to

intervene in a timely fashion if you need to.

Best,

Bonnie

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> >  My daughter is 7 years old and just recently started  obsessing over

sexual thoughts. It came on so suddenly and was quite alarming to my husband and

I.  Some of the things she is confessing to me is shocking.  Not only is

she struggling with her sexually obsessive thoughts, but she's started with some

physical obsessions like re-strapping her shoes over and over, re-tucking her

shirt dozens of times because of the way the buttons feel on her stomach, not

being able to lay her head down on her pillow at night until her head is

completely centered in the middle of the pillow. At times, she gets so worked

up, she has full blown panic attacks. We were so very fortunate to get her in

with a psychiatrist immediately. He wanted her started on Zoloft. I was very

hesitant with this decision, but finally started the meds after witnessing her

severe anxiety. Aside from her being extremely hyper, I have not noticed any

other side effects from the

Zoloft. I

> am

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> > concerned  with this hyper stage as her teacher has shared with me that

it is starting to cause some problems in the classroon.  The obsessive

thoughts and the need to share them have improved some.  My daughter is very

comfortable coming to me and talking about what's bothering her. We're remaining

very supportive with her through this difficult time. I am so curious if any

other parents out there are experiencing similar things. This is so new to us,

we are still in shock mode. Any advice would be so greatly appreciated!

!Sincerely, 

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[Guest guest]

,

Have you read about PANDAS? I highly suggest you read the symptoms of it

(www.pandasnetwork.org) and see if it rings a bell with your daughter's

symtoms. Kids can have asymptomatic strep and still have been exposed to

the virus.

Sorry your little girl is struggling. I hope things settle down soon.

Shaw

[Guest guest]

Sounds to me like this is one of her obsessions. My daughter is also super

sensitive to sex issues. The constant replaying in her mind and " confessing " to

you can also be an obsession and compulsion. My daughter has this with a time

she bite someone at camp over 2 years ago. 

Kerry  

From: bhamelburg <bhamelburgyahoo (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: 7 year old with sudden OCD

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 6:10 PM

 

I also have found over the years that a new med takes about a month to note it's

real effects. It does sound like a side effect as it seems to be related to its

administration. Keep your eye on it and you should be able to intervene in a

timely fashion if you need to.

Best,

Bonnie

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> >  My daughter is 7 years old and just recently started  obsessing over

sexual thoughts. It came on so suddenly and was quite alarming to my husband and

I.  Some of the things she is confessing to me is shocking.  Not only is

she struggling with her sexually obsessive thoughts, but she's started with some

physical obsessions like re-strapping her shoes over and over, re-tucking her

shirt dozens of times because of the way the buttons feel on her stomach, not

being able to lay her head down on her pillow at night until her head is

completely centered in the middle of the pillow. At times, she gets so worked

up, she has full blown panic attacks. We were so very fortunate to get her in

with a psychiatrist immediately. He wanted her started on Zoloft. I was very

hesitant with this decision, but finally started the meds after witnessing her

severe anxiety. Aside from her being extremely hyper, I have not noticed any

other side effects from the

Zoloft. I

> am

>

> > concerned  with this hyper stage as her teacher has shared with me that

it is starting to cause some problems in the classroon.  The obsessive

thoughts and the need to share them have improved some.  My daughter is very

comfortable coming to me and talking about what's bothering her. We're remaining

very supportive with her through this difficult time. I am so curious if any

other parents out there are experiencing similar things. This is so new to us,

we are still in shock mode. Any advice would be so greatly appreciated!

!Sincerely, 

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[Guest guest]

Hi - there were just a bunch of posts about sudden-onset due to PANDAS,

so I'll not address that here.

However, while I don't think that the " sex play " would cause the OCD (this seems

pretty normal for the age), it is very normal for the OCD brain to take up

anything that they are " not supposed to do or think about " and then obsess about

that. There is a great book for adults, called " The Imp of the Mind " that

explains this part of OCD. It is also called Scrupulosity. She is trying very

hard to avoid anything " bad " (for my daughter it was cheating - but it's the

same thing). There is great therapy for this, called Exposure & Ritual

Prevention (ERP). It is handled in an age appropriate manner, after educating

the child about OCD. I would suggest that you read " What to do when Your Brain

Gets Stuck " with her - it is a great workbook for kids. Then you might agree

that you will look at a picture of kissing, or watch a TV show.

The need to tell, is called confessing. The exposure therapy for this is to

delay telling! So you might play a game before she tells (we did a hand game

like mary mack) - anything to delay the telling. Or you can allow her a certain

number of times a day to tell - start by counting how many times she does this

now, and set a reasonable goal - with a reward. Then slowly take that number

down.

If you can, it is important that your family try not to seem upset by this - but

just call it what it is " I know that OCD wants you to tell this again, but you

are ok, you can boss him back when you are ready. Mom & dad will help you with

the tools to help you win! " .

A great book to read is Aureen Wagners " What to do when your child has Obsessive

Compulsive Disorder " . Basically, every time you reassure her, you are feeding

her disorder, and it gets bigger. It's so hard to be a parent when this first

starts! All your normal tools don't work & you have to learn new ones. It is

hard, but it works! You slowly remove reassurance, with her agreement. And

then you find ways to be sure she knows how much you love her & admire her

courage in fighting this.

Hoping for great progress for your little one - in NC

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> Ever hear of the onset of OCD due to previous unwanted " sex play " . My daughter

has confided in me that a classmate and neighbor (both girls and of the same

age) had done some sex play with her in the months leading up to her OCD

symptoms. She feels the need to re-tell these stories over and over. She's super

sensitive to anything sexual in nature. Seeing kissing on T.V., someone hugging

in public, a suggestive song etc triggers her sexual anxiety. We've really

mainstreamed what we let her listen to or watch on t.v. I've communicated all

this with her doctor. Curious what you thought about this. 

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , I see there are lots of replies to you but just wanted to say

" welcome! " I'm so sorry your daughter is going through this, but glad she feels

able to talk to you about them. I hope the hyperness settles down once she's

adjusted to taking Zoloft. If not, doctor may want to try another med since

apparently she's hyper enough that it's affecting school. But hate to switch

since you've noted it's already improved some with her OCD.

Keep us updated! And this is a great place to complain on the " OCD is driving

me insane! " days. )

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>  My daughter is 7 years old and just recently started  obsessing over sexual

thoughts. It came on so suddenly and was quite alarming to my husband and I.

 Some of the things she is confessing to me is shocking.  Not only is she

struggling with her sexually obsessive thoughts, but she's started with some

physical obsessions like re-