Re: Are girls with ASD less likely to talk than boys?

[Guest guest]

I would highly question that. The reason is I've seen so many

conflicting reports. Some says girls tend to be more severe, others,

like the Geiers, say girls with autism tend to be higher functioning

and credit estrogen. I know 6 local girls with autism off the top of

my head. Only one is nonverbal, and she's an older teen, probably

before some of the current treatments & therapies were known about to

help her at a young age.

Debi

[Guest guest]

For what it's worth I remember reading that if a girl has autism they

are likely to be more effected ie more severe. So that speech thing

in my eyes is believable. Of course there are always the ones that

will prove this wrong.

Both my kids have autism. My girl is moderate, my boy mild.

I have a friend with a boy and girl on the spectrum and the girl is

about 5 and has only uttered a few words but to be fair she also has

speech aproxia. Her boy is almost two and also has just a few words.

Who knows?

- In Autism_in_Girls , " Cristy Estep "

wrote:

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> Looking at all the information out there on the web I came across

> something that shocked me. It said that girls with autism were less

> likely to be able to use speech to communicate. I was wondering if

> this were true and i'd just never heard it before. And there is

almost

> NO information out there that's just about girls with ASD. Or maybe

> i've just been looking in the wrong place?

> Cristy

>

[Guest guest]

I can only speak for our situation. But since Abby started talking-she has

not stopped. LOL. When she started school at age 2, we told her teacher that we

were looking forward to the day that she could speak. Ms. Ellen said

that once Abby started she would never stop, she could not have been more

right.

Pennie

Abby's Mom

Whose little girl more then speaks her mind-rather we want to know or not LOL

[Guest guest]

That is really interesting, but my daughter has always had speech even

though she more affected by the autism than boys her age. I read that some

girls have a tendency towards MR issues and I've always wondered if this is

so with as, even though she learns, she moves at a slower pace then

her male classmates.

Are girls with ASD less likely to talk than boys?

Looking at all the information out there on the web I came across

something that shocked me. It said that girls with autism were less

likely to be able to use speech to communicate. I was wondering if

this were true and i'd just never heard it before. And there is almost

NO information out there that's just about girls with ASD. Or maybe

i've just been looking in the wrong place?

Cristy

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[Guest guest]

Debi,

Thanks for replying. I saw something about girls possibly not being as

severely effected because of estrogen too. Seems estrogen helps us

fight off toxins, ecpecially mercury. And some things also on the fact

that females are just more naturally social so they have that over the

boys too.

I would really love to find someone out there who has done real

studies on girls with autism. There really isn't anything out there

that I can find. I was hoping to put some good information for mothers

with daughters on the spectrum on my blog.

Cristy

>

> I would highly question that. The reason is I've seen so many

> conflicting reports. Some says girls tend to be more severe, others,

> like the Geiers, say girls with autism tend to be higher functioning

> and credit estrogen. I know 6 local girls with autism off the top of

> my head. Only one is nonverbal, and she's an older teen, probably

> before some of the current treatments & therapies were known about to

> help her at a young age.

>

>

> Debi

>

[Guest guest]

I have heard that before too, but in my experience, it is not true.

Actually, only one girl I worked with was non-verbal, out of maybe 10

or so, and that one was only 3 when I was working with her. I have

worked with A LOT more boys, and had a pretty good mix of verbal

skills, but very few ever, of either gender, who were totally non-

verbal.

I think there is just less info in general on ASD girls, mostly because

there are less girls diagnosed with ASD.

Amnesty

>

> Looking at all the information out there on the web I came across

> something that shocked me. It said that girls with autism were less

> likely to be able to use speech to communicate. I was wondering if

> this were true and i'd just never heard it before. And there is

almost

> NO information out there that's just about girls with ASD. Or maybe

> i've just been looking in the wrong place?

> Cristy

>

[Guest guest]

my IQ has been for much years in low normal but one taken a few years

back placed me at an average level of Intellect.My psychologist to say

my IQ is maybe higher than testing shows because testing is hard for

me in the way in which many IQ testings are implemented.

Sondra

[Guest guest]

different? or just being more aware that the disorder can

be among girls who present it higher than the classical forms of

past understand of autism. I to find that the move has been for

professionals to be more aware that this is not a male disorder and

so they are more willing to see spectrum now in girls than in past.

Many including self in past were dx as mental retardations of

various levels and or mental disorders such as anxiety disorders,

OCD, and other neurological things such as maybe ADHD or ADD, and

some with language disorders sucha s receptive /expressive

disorders. i to know i to have a cousin whose daughter is classified

mild retardations . apraxia, anxiety . but the knowing of the family

history it is more than likily another case of spectrum but misdx as

many other things instead. So I to wonder if it is more awareness of

the female versions that is wy you are seeing more higher abled

kidos because the awareness that such exists. Where int he past it

had to be a severe case to understand it as classical autism.

Sondra

In Autism_in_Girls , chiftmd@... wrote:

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> I thought that you might be interested in my purely clinical

experience with

> the girls whom I have seen in the last few years. I am seeing

more girls who

> seem to actually improve faster than the typical boy. This was

absolutely

> not my experience 5 years ago. The new generation of girls seems

different! I

> don't believe that I am the only physician that has noted this

change.

>

> Hift, M.D.F.A.A.P.

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[Guest guest]

I found an interesting article about girls being underdiagnosed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4630705.stm

Lori

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> > > I would highly question that. The reason is I've seen so many

> > > conflicting reports. Some says girls tend to be more severe,

others,

> > > like the Geiers, say girls with autism tend to be higher

functioning

> > > and credit estrogen. I know 6 local girls with autism off the

top of

> > > my head. Only one is nonverbal, and she's an older teen,

probably

> > > before some of the current treatments & therapies were known

about to

> > > help her at a young age.

> > >

> > >

> > > Debi

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> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Aimee,

I don't know why the term non-verbal is used with very young

children. To me a non-verbal 2 year old is a 2 year old who isn't

talking yet. Just my 2 cents...always trying to look at things in a

positive light.

Lori

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> > Looking at all the information out there on the web I came

across

> > something that shocked me. It said that girls with autism were

less

> > likely to be able to use speech to communicate. I was wondering

if

> > this were true and i'd just never heard it before. And there is

> almost

> > NO information out there that's just about girls with ASD. Or

maybe

> > i've just been looking in the wrong place?

> > Cristy

> >

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[Guest guest]

I to see non verbal as being unable to use verbal domains of

language such as speech. And or they do not use the speech in

spontaneous ways to communicate with another with intent to convey a

complete thought. so if the person of autism is echoing phrases and

or words they are still to me non verbal meaning they do not sue the

words to commnicate in ways that convey a message that others can

easily interpret. (this isnot to say that some with autism are of

not using the echoed scipts as a form of communication because some

are , the problem exist that the other person is not able to to

interpret the script easily with meaning.

Sondra

In Autism_in_Girls , " lorgonzo4 " wrote:

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> Hi Aimee,

> I don't know why the term non-verbal is used with very young

> children. To me a non-verbal 2 year old is a 2 year old who isn't

> talking yet. Just my 2 cents...always trying to look at things in

a

> positive light.

>

> Lori

>

>

> > >

> > > Looking at all the information out there on the web I came

> across

> > > something that shocked me. It said that girls with autism were

> less

> > > likely to be able to use speech to communicate. I was

wondering

> if

> > > this were true and i'd just never heard it before. And there

is

> > almost

> > > NO information out there that's just about girls with ASD. Or

> maybe

> > > i've just been looking in the wrong place?

> > > Cristy

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[Guest guest]

Well, there's a difference between non-verbal and functionally non-

verbal...if she has enough language to get her needs and wants met on

a regular basis, I would consider her verbal. However, if she is

either saying things out of context (scripting or echolalia for

example) or needs prompts or imitates frequently, she is still

probably functionally non-verbal. But don't worry to much if that is

the case, she's so little that if she is talking at all now, it will

only get better It is a long transition though.

Amnesty

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> > Looking at all the information out there on the web I came across

> > something that shocked me. It said that girls with autism were

less

> > likely to be able to use speech to communicate. I was wondering

if

> > this were true and i'd just never heard it before. And there is

> almost

> > NO information out there that's just about girls with ASD. Or

maybe

> > i've just been looking in the wrong place?

> > Cristy

> >

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[Guest guest]

When allie ran away from me at the mall I told security she is

" functionally non-verbal " . Allie can talk but can't answer some

questions or spontaneously speak her emotions. I think the average joe

who doesn't understand autism would consider than non-verbal.

Debi

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[Guest guest]

I to began to speak around age of 3 1/2 but it was of echoing. by

age of 6 could request some basic needs but was not always one who

seeked words or spoke them peole assumed was severe shy because rare

to speak but by age of 9 or so had many words could script back

large chucks of words from books and such but did not have real

conversational speech such as good back and forth flow until some

what around the age of 9 almost 10. but even then had much pronoun

reversals, and oddieties to my words.

Sondra

In Autism_in_Girls , aimee henkel

wrote:

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> Sondra,

> How old were you when you began to speak? I hear some kids on

the spectrum dont start till around 4 or 5...

> Aimee

>

> sondra wrote:

> I to see non verbal as being unable to use verbal domains of

> language such as speech. And or they do not use the speech in

> spontaneous ways to communicate with another with intent to convey

a

> complete thought. so if the person of autism is echoing phrases

and

> or words they are still to me non verbal meaning they do not sue

the

> words to commnicate in ways that convey a message that others can

> easily interpret. (this isnot to say that some with autism are of

> not using the echoed scipts as a form of communication because

some

> are , the problem exist that the other person is not able to to

> interpret the script easily with meaning.

>

> Sondra

>

> In Autism_in_Girls , " lorgonzo4 " <lorgonz@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Aimee,

> > I don't know why the term non-verbal is used with very young

> > children. To me a non-verbal 2 year old is a 2 year old who

isn't

> > talking yet. Just my 2 cents...always trying to look at things

in

> a

> > positive light.

> >

> > Lori

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > > Looking at all the information out there on the web I came

> > across

> > > > something that shocked me. It said that girls with autism

were

> > less

> > > > likely to be able to use speech to communicate. I was

> wondering

> > if

> > > > this were true and i'd just never heard it before. And there

> is

> > > almost

> > > > NO information out there that's just about girls with ASD.

Or

> > maybe

> > > > i've just been looking in the wrong place?

> > > > Cristy

> > > >

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