Guest guest Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I tried Zoloft for my OCD and it made me very angry. I cursed out a man at my sister's yard sale - and that is not like me at all... I was also having very violent dreams. My psychiatrist told me to stop taking it. On the other hand, my daughter was on Zoloft for several years when she was in elementary school and she had no anger problems with it; it just made it hard for her to sleep. Your son's anger probably has nothing to do with the Zoloft, but I just thought I'd mention it. shellspace71 wrote: > > > My 6 yr old, OCD, Anxiety and PDD-NOS/sendory interation disorder son > is getting worse. Since school started he has come home and meltedown > almost every day.I have no idea if his behavior is him trying to be a > brat, or anxiety or something else. He hits, kicks, throws thing, has > ALOT of anger. Of course it is saved only for me. Today, he was > sitting at supper saying he was going to wet his pants, on purpose, I > ignored this thinking it was attention getting, he was saying it on > purpose, then he actually did it-right in the chair-on purpose! Never > done that before. I took him in his room, told him to change then stay > in his room. Yesterday was full of him attacking me, hitting me while > driving, tearing my car roof, etc. I swear this has to be caused by > school. I can't think of anything else that has changed. It is wearing > me down emotionally and I spent a good part of last night and today > crying. I have begged his home based therpaist (who I like more now) > for suggestions and help, thinking it is something I am doing or maybe > something I need to do. I am burned out. I get no help from my > husband. He just gets mad if he get awakened by his son's tantrums. No > help though. he works third shift and his sleep is of ultimate > importance. The therapist is going to the school next week to observe. > I am burned out. I see my therapist when I can but the co pay is sooo > high I can afford about once a month. I am going to be starting an ASD > group when they get a meeting time. > My son has been sick this past month but is getting over it and I just > don't understand his behavior. Any thoughts? He is on Zoloft, 50mg, > risperdal.25 mg in th eAm and .25mg after school and meletonin at > bedtime. I am beside myself. I have no idea how to help him. There is > no residential treatment for him I was told tonight-state funding cuts. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 I've been following your posts for a while and I just wanted to ask what are working on to address the PDD/nos? This can be a crucial piece to the issues you're having with him. It's good you're on the track to an ASD group, but you also need someone to work with him that has experience with spectrum disorders. My daughter has autism and OCD (and other issues..) and I take into account everything when problem solving with her. -and a side note, my daughter is 11 and she takes 1.00 ml Risperal in the am and .75 pm. and no side effects. In a message dated 10/21/2009 9:01:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, shellspace71@... writes: My 6 yr old, OCD, Anxiety and PDD-NOS/sendory interation disorder son is getting worse. Since school started he has come home and meltedown almost every day.I have no idea if his behavior is him trying to be a brat, or anxiety or something else. He hits, kicks, throws thing, has ALOT of anger. Of course it is saved only for me. Today, he was sitting at supper saying he was going to wet his pants, on purpose, I ignored this thinking it was attention getting, he was saying it on purpose, then he actually did it-right in the chair-on purpose! Never done that before. I took him in his room, told him to change then stay in his room. Yesterday was full of him attacking me, hitting me while driving, tearing my car roof, etc. I swear this has to be caused by school. I can't think of anything else that has changed. It is wearing me down emotionally and I spent a good part of last night and today crying. I have begged his home based therpaist (who I like more now) for suggestions and help, thinking it is something I am doing or maybe something I need to do. I am burned out. I get no help from my husband. He just gets mad if he get awakened by his son's tantrums. No help though. he works third shift and his sleep is of ultimate importance. The therapist is going to the school next week to observe. I am burned out. I see my therapist when I can but the co pay is sooo high I can afford about once a month. I am going to be starting an ASD group when they get a meeting time. My son has been sick this past month but is getting over it and I just don't understand his behavior. Any thoughts? He is on Zoloft, 50mg, risperdal.25 mg in th eAm and .25mg after school and meletonin at bedtime. I am beside myself. I have no idea how to help him. There is no residential treatment for him I was told tonight-state funding cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Hi . I went through the exact same thing last year. It's as if he was trying so hard to hold it together at school that by the time he got home he was ready to explode...and he usually did. It took a turn for the worse by October when he became suicidal. He was only seven. We put him on Prozac and year he is at home and much calmer, although there are still really tough moments, it is much more managable. The school he was in refused to give him any help at all. The principal actually told us that if we didn't like it we didn't have to have our child in public school. Hang in there. Walk by Faith Tyler ________________________________ To: Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:07:16 PM Subject: Re: have no idea what is going on with my 6 yr old-help? I tried Zoloft for my OCD and it made me very angry. I cursed out a man at my sister's yard sale - and that is not like me at all... I was also having very violent dreams. My psychiatrist told me to stop taking it. On the other hand, my daughter was on Zoloft for several years when she was in elementary school and she had no anger problems with it; it just made it hard for her to sleep. Your son's anger probably has nothing to do with the Zoloft, but I just thought I'd mention it. shellspace71 wrote: > > > My 6 yr old, OCD, Anxiety and PDD-NOS/sendory interation disorder son > is getting worse. Since school started he has come home and meltedown > almost every day.I have no idea if his behavior is him trying to be a > brat, or anxiety or something else. He hits, kicks, throws thing, has > ALOT of anger. Of course it is saved only for me. Today, he was > sitting at supper saying he was going to wet his pants, on purpose, I > ignored this thinking it was attention getting, he was saying it on > purpose, then he actually did it-right in the chair-on purpose! Never > done that before. I took him in his room, told him to change then stay > in his room. Yesterday was full of him attacking me, hitting me while > driving, tearing my car roof, etc. I swear this has to be caused by > school. I can't think of anything else that has changed. It is wearing > me down emotionally and I spent a good part of last night and today > crying. I have begged his home based therpaist (who I like more now) > for suggestions and help, thinking it is something I am doing or maybe > something I need to do. I am burned out. I get no help from my > husband. He just gets mad if he get awakened by his son's tantrums. No > help though. he works third shift and his sleep is of ultimate > importance. The therapist is going to the school next week to observe. > I am burned out. I see my therapist when I can but the co pay is sooo > high I can afford about once a month. I am going to be starting an ASD > group when they get a meeting time. > My son has been sick this past month but is getting over it and I just > don't understand his behavior. Any thoughts? He is on Zoloft, 50mg, > risperdal.25 mg in th eAm and .25mg after school and meletonin at > bedtime. I am beside myself. I have no idea how to help him. There is > no residential treatment for him I was told tonight-state funding cuts. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Hi , Mine are always worse during the school year also because of the stress, anxiety, and trying to hold it together in the classroom in front of their peers. When they come home they feel safe. They can let go with you. Of course being sick can add to his behaviors. My daughter used to do that behavior in the car, kick the seat, throw things at me,unbuckle, scream ,etc. What I did was pull over and tell her we would sit there all day until she stopped because it was dangerous to drive like that. Do you think maybe the zoloft could be making him hyper manic? That happens with my 8yr old. He can't take any SSRI'S for that reason. Is his diagnosis ocd only? I'm sorry, I'm sure it was posted before. Just some quick thoughts here. Hang in there!!!! Hugs judy ________________________________ To: Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:00:50 PM Subject: have no idea what is going on with my 6 yr old-help?  My 6 yr old, OCD, Anxiety and PDD-NOS/sendory interation disorder son is getting worse. Since school started he has come home and meltedown almost every day.I have no idea if his behavior is him trying to be a brat, or anxiety or something else. He hits, kicks, throws thing, has ALOT of anger. Of course it is saved only for me. Today, he was sitting at supper saying he was going to wet his pants, on purpose, I ignored this thinking it was attention getting, he was saying it on purpose, then he actually did it-right in the chair-on purpose! Never done that before. I took him in his room, told him to change then stay in his room. Yesterday was full of him attacking me, hitting me while driving, tearing my car roof, etc. I swear this has to be caused by school. I can't think of anything else that has changed. It is wearing me down emotionally and I spent a good part of last night and today crying. I have begged his home based therpaist (who I like more now) for suggestions and help, thinking it is something I am doing or maybe something I need to do. I am burned out. I get no help from my husband. He just gets mad if he get awakened by his son's tantrums. No help though. he works third shift and his sleep is of ultimate importance. The therapist is going to the school next week to observe. I am burned out. I see my therapist when I can but the co pay is sooo high I can afford about once a month. I am going to be starting an ASD group when they get a meeting time. My son has been sick this past month but is getting over it and I just don't understand his behavior. Any thoughts? He is on Zoloft, 50mg, risperdal.25 mg in th eAm and .25mg after school and meletonin at bedtime. I am beside myself. I have no idea how to help him. There is no residential treatment for him I was told tonight-state funding cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Hi , If your school is saying that, you can call a PPT and let them know that they are responsible for schooling your child in an appropriate manner, and if he is taken out they have to pay to place him out of district. Just threw this all in because I am dealing with my son's school system right now. Hugs Judy ________________________________ To: Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:44:02 AM Subject: Re: have no idea what is going on with my 6 yr old-help? Â Hi . I went through the exact same thing last year. It's as if he was trying so hard to hold it together at school that by the time he got home he was ready to explode...and he usually did. It took a turn for the worse by October when he became suicidal. He was only seven. We put him on Prozac and year he is at home and much calmer, although there are still really tough moments, it is much more managable. The school he was in refused to give him any help at all. The principal actually told us that if we didn't like it we didn't have to have our child in public school. Hang in there. Walk by Faith Tyler ____________ _________ _________ __ From: R <rnelson3nc (DOT) rr.com> To: @ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:07:16 PM Subject: Re: have no idea what is going on with my 6 yr old-help? I tried Zoloft for my OCD and it made me very angry. I cursed out a man at my sister's yard sale - and that is not like me at all... I was also having very violent dreams. My psychiatrist told me to stop taking it. On the other hand, my daughter was on Zoloft for several years when she was in elementary school and she had no anger problems with it; it just made it hard for her to sleep. Your son's anger probably has nothing to do with the Zoloft, but I just thought I'd mention it. shellspace71 wrote: > > > My 6 yr old, OCD, Anxiety and PDD-NOS/sendory interation disorder son > is getting worse. Since school started he has come home and meltedown > almost every day.I have no idea if his behavior is him trying to be a > brat, or anxiety or something else. He hits, kicks, throws thing, has > ALOT of anger. Of course it is saved only for me. Today, he was > sitting at supper saying he was going to wet his pants, on purpose, I > ignored this thinking it was attention getting, he was saying it on > purpose, then he actually did it-right in the chair-on purpose! Never > done that before. I took him in his room, told him to change then stay > in his room. Yesterday was full of him attacking me, hitting me while > driving, tearing my car roof, etc. I swear this has to be caused by > school. I can't think of anything else that has changed. It is wearing > me down emotionally and I spent a good part of last night and today > crying. I have begged his home based therpaist (who I like more now) > for suggestions and help, thinking it is something I am doing or maybe > something I need to do. I am burned out. I get no help from my > husband. He just gets mad if he get awakened by his son's tantrums. No > help though. he works third shift and his sleep is of ultimate > importance. The therapist is going to the school next week to observe. > I am burned out. I see my therapist when I can but the co pay is sooo > high I can afford about once a month. I am going to be starting an ASD > group when they get a meeting time. > My son has been sick this past month but is getting over it and I just > don't understand his behavior. Any thoughts? He is on Zoloft, 50mg, > risperdal.25 mg in th eAm and .25mg after school and meletonin at > bedtime. I am beside myself. I have no idea how to help him. There is > no residential treatment for him I was told tonight-state funding cuts. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Thanks Judy. What is PPT? Walk by Faith Tyler ________________________________ To: Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 8:47:50 AM Subject: Re: have no idea what is going on with my 6 yr old-help? Hi , If your school is saying that, you can call a PPT and let them know that they are responsible for schooling your child in an appropriate manner, and if he is taken out they have to pay to place him out of district. Just threw this all in because I am dealing with my son's school system right now. Hugs Judy ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Tyler <suddenly17yahoo (DOT) com> To: @ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:44:02 AM Subject: Re: have no idea what is going on with my 6 yr old-help? Hi . I went through the exact same thing last year. It's as if he was trying so hard to hold it together at school that by the time he got home he was ready to explode...and he usually did. It took a turn for the worse by October when he became suicidal. He was only seven. We put him on Prozac and year he is at home and much calmer, although there are still really tough moments, it is much more managable. The school he was in refused to give him any help at all. The principal actually told us that if we didn't like it we didn't have to have our child in public school. Hang in there. Walk by Faith Tyler ____________ _________ _________ __ From: R <rnelson3nc (DOT) rr.com> To: @ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:07:16 PM Subject: Re: have no idea what is going on with my 6 yr old-help? I tried Zoloft for my OCD and it made me very angry. I cursed out a man at my sister's yard sale - and that is not like me at all... I was also having very violent dreams. My psychiatrist told me to stop taking it. On the other hand, my daughter was on Zoloft for several years when she was in elementary school and she had no anger problems with it; it just made it hard for her to sleep. Your son's anger probably has nothing to do with the Zoloft, but I just thought I'd mention it. shellspace71 wrote: > > > My 6 yr old, OCD, Anxiety and PDD-NOS/sendory interation disorder son > is getting worse. Since school started he has come home and meltedown > almost every day.I have no idea if his behavior is him trying to be a > brat, or anxiety or something else. He hits, kicks, throws thing, has > ALOT of anger. Of course it is saved only for me. Today, he was > sitting at supper saying he was going to wet his pants, on purpose, I > ignored this thinking it was attention getting, he was saying it on > purpose, then he actually did it-right in the chair-on purpose! Never > done that before. I took him in his room, told him to change then stay > in his room. Yesterday was full of him attacking me, hitting me while > driving, tearing my car roof, etc. I swear this has to be caused by > school. I can't think of anything else that has changed. It is wearing > me down emotionally and I spent a good part of last night and today > crying. I have begged his home based therpaist (who I like more now) > for suggestions and help, thinking it is something I am doing or maybe > something I need to do. I am burned out. I get no help from my > husband. He just gets mad if he get awakened by his son's tantrums. No > help though. he works third shift and his sleep is of ultimate > importance. The therapist is going to the school next week to observe. > I am burned out. I see my therapist when I can but the co pay is sooo > high I can afford about once a month. I am going to be starting an ASD > group when they get a meeting time. > My son has been sick this past month but is getting over it and I just > don't understand his behavior. Any thoughts? He is on Zoloft, 50mg, > risperdal.25 mg in th eAm and .25mg after school and meletonin at > bedtime. I am beside myself. I have no idea how to help him. There is > no residential treatment for him I was told tonight-state funding cuts. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 He has been on the Zoloft since last October and no increases for at least 6 months. They have not diagnosed him with a mood disorder (wouldn't surprise me-runs rampant through our families). The Risperdal was increased to twice a day around the time school started but I am not sure of the date. He is starting to get angry on the way to school now as well. As soon as we leave the house. He wakes up in a good mood. Yet he says he loves school and wants to go to school.He does say alot thqt he misses me (when he isn't raging). > > Hi , > > Mine are always worse during the school year also because of the stress, anxiety, and trying to hold it together in the classroom in front of their peers. > When they come home they feel safe. They can let go with you. Of course being sick can add to his behaviors. > My daughter used to do that behavior in the car, kick the seat, throw things at me,unbuckle, scream ,etc. What I did was pull over and tell her we would sit there all day until she stopped because it was dangerous to drive like that. > Do you think maybe the zoloft could be making him hyper manic? That happens with my 8yr old. He can't take any SSRI'S for that reason. Is his diagnosis ocd only? I'm sorry, I'm sure it was posted before. > Just some quick thoughts here. > > Hang in there!!!! > > Hugs > judy > > > > ________________________________ > > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:00:50 PM > Subject: have no idea what is going on with my 6 yr old-help? > >  > My 6 yr old, OCD, Anxiety and PDD-NOS/sendory interation disorder son is getting worse. Since school started he has come home and meltedown almost every day.I have no idea if his behavior is him trying to be a brat, or anxiety or something else. He hits, kicks, throws thing, has ALOT of anger. Of course it is saved only for me. Today, he was sitting at supper saying he was going to wet his pants, on purpose, I ignored this thinking it was attention getting, he was saying it on purpose, then he actually did it-right in the chair-on purpose! Never done that before. I took him in his room, told him to change then stay in his room. Yesterday was full of him attacking me, hitting me while driving, tearing my car roof, etc. I swear this has to be caused by school. I can't think of anything else that has changed. It is wearing me down emotionally and I spent a good part of last night and today crying. I have begged his home based therpaist (who I like more now) > for suggestions and help, thinking it is something I am doing or maybe something I need to do. I am burned out. I get no help from my husband. He just gets mad if he get awakened by his son's tantrums. No help though. he works third shift and his sleep is of ultimate importance. The therapist is going to the school next week to observe. I am burned out. I see my therapist when I can but the co pay is sooo high I can afford about once a month. I am going to be starting an ASD group when they get a meeting time. > My son has been sick this past month but is getting over it and I just don't understand his behavior. Any thoughts? He is on Zoloft, 50mg, risperdal.25 mg in th eAm and .25mg after school and meletonin at bedtime. I am beside myself. I have no idea how to help him. There is no residential treatment for him I was told tonight-state funding cuts. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Hi , It's a planning and placement team meeting. Hugs judy ________________________________ To: Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:57:54 AM Subject: Re: have no idea what is going on with my 6 yr old-help? Â Thanks Judy. What is PPT? Walk by Faith Tyler ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jchabot <jchabotsnet (DOT) net> To: @ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 8:47:50 AM Subject: Re: have no idea what is going on with my 6 yr old-help? Hi , If your school is saying that, you can call a PPT and let them know that they are responsible for schooling your child in an appropriate manner, and if he is taken out they have to pay to place him out of district. Just threw this all in because I am dealing with my son's school system right now. Hugs Judy ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Tyler <suddenly17@ yahoo. com> To: @ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:44:02 AM Subject: Re: have no idea what is going on with my 6 yr old-help? Hi . I went through the exact same thing last year. It's as if he was trying so hard to hold it together at school that by the time he got home he was ready to explode...and he usually did. It took a turn for the worse by October when he became suicidal. He was only seven. We put him on Prozac and year he is at home and much calmer, although there are still really tough moments, it is much more managable. The school he was in refused to give him any help at all. The principal actually told us that if we didn't like it we didn't have to have our child in public school. Hang in there. Walk by Faith Tyler ____________ _________ _________ __ From: R <rnelson3nc (DOT) rr.com> To: @ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:07:16 PM Subject: Re: have no idea what is going on with my 6 yr old-help? I tried Zoloft for my OCD and it made me very angry. I cursed out a man at my sister's yard sale - and that is not like me at all... I was also having very violent dreams. My psychiatrist told me to stop taking it. On the other hand, my daughter was on Zoloft for several years when she was in elementary school and she had no anger problems with it; it just made it hard for her to sleep. Your son's anger probably has nothing to do with the Zoloft, but I just thought I'd mention it. shellspace71 wrote: > > > My 6 yr old, OCD, Anxiety and PDD-NOS/sendory interation disorder son > is getting worse. Since school started he has come home and meltedown > almost every day.I have no idea if his behavior is him trying to be a > brat, or anxiety or something else. He hits, kicks, throws thing, has > ALOT of anger. Of course it is saved only for me. Today, he was > sitting at supper saying he was going to wet his pants, on purpose, I > ignored this thinking it was attention getting, he was saying it on > purpose, then he actually did it-right in the chair-on purpose! Never > done that before. I took him in his room, told him to change then stay > in his room. Yesterday was full of him attacking me, hitting me while > driving, tearing my car roof, etc. I swear this has to be caused by > school. I can't think of anything else that has changed. It is wearing > me down emotionally and I spent a good part of last night and today > crying. I have begged his home based therpaist (who I like more now) > for suggestions and help, thinking it is something I am doing or maybe > something I need to do. I am burned out. I get no help from my > husband. He just gets mad if he get awakened by his son's tantrums. No > help though. he works third shift and his sleep is of ultimate > importance. The therapist is going to the school next week to observe. > I am burned out. I see my therapist when I can but the co pay is sooo > high I can afford about once a month. I am going to be starting an ASD > group when they get a meeting time. > My son has been sick this past month but is getting over it and I just > don't understand his behavior. Any thoughts? He is on Zoloft, 50mg, > risperdal.25 mg in th eAm and .25mg after school and meletonin at > bedtime. I am beside myself. I have no idea how to help him. There is > no residential treatment for him I was told tonight-state funding cuts. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 The pdoc said the PDD is " a smidge " only(?) but impairs social understqnding. He didn't give me anything to work on. Just said I would have to esplain social cues that come naturally to most of us. Said he is very high functioning. The therapist-I don't really know as this therapist is new, as to what he is doing except that trying to get my son to use coping skills and manage anger are a top priority. > > > I've been following your posts for a while and I just wanted to ask what > are working on to address the PDD/nos? This can be a crucial piece to the > issues you're having with him. It's good you're on the track to an ASD > group, but you also need someone to work with him that has experience with > spectrum disorders. > My daughter has autism and OCD (and other issues..) and I take into > account everything when problem solving with her. -and a side note, my daughter > is 11 and she takes 1.00 ml Risperal in the am and .75 pm. and no side > effects. > > > > In a message dated 10/21/2009 9:01:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > shellspace71@... writes: > > > > > My 6 yr old, OCD, Anxiety and PDD-NOS/sendory interation disorder son is > getting worse. Since school started he has come home and meltedown almost > every day.I have no idea if his behavior is him trying to be a brat, or > anxiety or something else. He hits, kicks, throws thing, has ALOT of anger. Of > course it is saved only for me. Today, he was sitting at supper saying he was > going to wet his pants, on purpose, I ignored this thinking it was > attention getting, he was saying it on purpose, then he actually did it-right in > the chair-on purpose! Never done that before. I took him in his room, told > him to change then stay in his room. Yesterday was full of him attacking me, > hitting me while driving, tearing my car roof, etc. I swear this has to be > caused by school. I can't think of anything else that has changed. It is > wearing me down emotionally and I spent a good part of last night and today > crying. I have begged his home based therpaist (who I like more now) for > suggestions and help, thinking it is something I am doing or maybe something > I need to do. I am burned out. I get no help from my husband. He just gets > mad if he get awakened by his son's tantrums. No help though. he works > third shift and his sleep is of ultimate importance. The therapist is going to > the school next week to observe. I am burned out. I see my therapist when I > can but the co pay is sooo high I can afford about once a month. I am > going to be starting an ASD group when they get a meeting time. > My son has been sick this past month but is getting over it and I just > don't understand his behavior. Any thoughts? He is on Zoloft, 50mg, > risperdal.25 mg in th eAm and .25mg after school and meletonin at bedtime. I am > beside myself. I have no idea how to help him. There is no residential treatment > for him I was told tonight-state funding cuts. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 I hate to sound like a broken record when it comes to SSRI's but honestly, I think it may be the Zoloft. A lot of kids just can't tolerate them. I know that behavior so well and I feel so upset about how many pdocs just don't seem to understand what you're saying until the child completely breaks down. Your son's behavior sounds just like my son's has in the past and I can feel your pain believe me! If you look at the recent posts, you will see my response to another mom who is going through something similar. Seems like the pdocs add an antipsychotic to the SSRI to quell the behavior from the SSRI, but it can (and did in our case) make it worse. My son, in any other situation, is a well behaved and loving child. He cares about others and is affectionate and happy. When he is affected by medicine, it's as if someone flipped a switch and a completely different child embodies my son. I think first you have to understand that he truly can't help feeling the anger the way he does. The anger is so intense it requires an outlet (and you shouldn't be the outlet). I think there is an article on the board files here about escalating behavior and how to handle it. In a nutshell, handle it with as little emotion, eye contact, and body language as you can. Read the labeling for Zoloft and I think you'll find that it warns of the onset of irrational or bizarre or suicidal behavior. Take that info to the pdoc and ask him squarely about it. Describe the behavior in detail including what the triggers are (usually the word " no " ) and how out of hand and uncharacteristic it is for your son. My son only ever got better when he was taken off the SSRI's and the antipsychotic was lowered (in your case to 25mg?). Once he settles down some (may take a couple of weeks), make sure that your therapist is versed on therapy the way that it is described and recommended by the OCF. As for your husband... mine backs off a little too when he feels helpless and I'm sure he has his reasons (as insufficient as they are - sorry). I think yours should be sleeping during the daytime and helping you out from dinner time onward. I'm a nurse and so I know what shift work is like, but you're in a crisis right now. I hope that you get the help you need and that things will begin to settle down. Bonnie > > My 6 yr old, OCD, Anxiety and PDD-NOS/sendory interation disorder son is getting worse. Since school started he has come home and meltedown almost every day.I have no idea if his behavior is him trying to be a brat, or anxiety or something else. He hits, kicks, throws thing, has ALOT of anger. Of course it is saved only for me. Today, he was sitting at supper saying he was going to wet his pants, on purpose, I ignored this thinking it was attention getting, he was saying it on purpose, then he actually did it-right in the chair-on purpose! Never done that before. I took him in his room, told him to change then stay in his room. Yesterday was full of him attacking me, hitting me while driving, tearing my car roof, etc. I swear this has to be caused by school. I can't think of anything else that has changed. It is wearing me down emotionally and I spent a good part of last night and today crying. I have begged his home based therpaist (who I like more now) for suggestions and help, thinking it is something I am doing or maybe something I need to do. I am burned out. I get no help from my husband. He just gets mad if he get awakened by his son's tantrums. No help though. he works third shift and his sleep is of ultimate importance. The therapist is going to the school next week to observe. I am burned out. I see my therapist when I can but the co pay is sooo high I can afford about once a month. I am going to be starting an ASD group when they get a meeting time. > My son has been sick this past month but is getting over it and I just don't understand his behavior. Any thoughts? He is on Zoloft, 50mg, risperdal.25 mg in th eAm and .25mg after school and meletonin at bedtime. I am beside myself. I have no idea how to help him. There is no residential treatment for him I was told tonight-state funding cuts. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Hi,I noticed that your son was recently sick.Have you been to a Doctor to rule out Pandas?There is blood work called anti-neuronal antibodies that they can check.If you send madeleine -cunningham@... she can give you information.Her phone # .(If you send her a email she will call back the same day.)Children can have OCD caused by a Strep infection.The strep can be anywhere in the body.Our daughter is 6 1/2 and also dx with OCD.It breaks your heart when your child says " I'm strange,I do things that other kids don't do. " There is a book " What to do when your brain gets stuck " it's for kids and it's great.Talking to our daughter about OCD seemed to help her and also explaining that there are other kids with OCD helped.Have you seen the book " Saving Sammy the boy who caught OCD? " Does your therapist do play therapy?We contacted a therapist that does play therapy and we are looking into it.I hope that the above info is helpfull !We are going to have blood work drawn to r/o any mediical problems.(Know when you cry you are not alone)Take care,Steph Subject: have no idea what is going on with my 6 yr old-help? To: Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 10:00 PM Â My 6 yr old, OCD, Anxiety and PDD-NOS/sendory interation disorder son is getting worse. Since school started he has come home and meltedown almost every day.I have no idea if his behavior is him trying to be a brat, or anxiety or something else. He hits, kicks, throws thing, has ALOT of anger. Of course it is saved only for me. Today, he was sitting at supper saying he was going to wet his pants, on purpose, I ignored this thinking it was attention getting, he was saying it on purpose, then he actually did it-right in the chair-on purpose! Never done that before. I took him in his room, told him to change then stay in his room. Yesterday was full of him attacking me, hitting me while driving, tearing my car roof, etc. I swear this has to be caused by school. I can't think of anything else that has changed. It is wearing me down emotionally and I spent a good part of last night and today crying. I have begged his home based therpaist (who I like more now) for suggestions and help, thinking it is something I am doing or maybe something I need to do. I am burned out. I get no help from my husband. He just gets mad if he get awakened by his son's tantrums. No help though. he works third shift and his sleep is of ultimate importance. The therapist is going to the school next week to observe. I am burned out. I see my therapist when I can but the co pay is sooo high I can afford about once a month. I am going to be starting an ASD group when they get a meeting time. My son has been sick this past month but is getting over it and I just don't understand his behavior. Any thoughts? He is on Zoloft, 50mg, risperdal.25 mg in th eAm and .25mg after school and meletonin at bedtime. I am beside myself. I have no idea how to help him. There is no residential treatment for him I was told tonight-state funding cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 There are professionals who do social skills training. They would usually be a LCSW, or a Speech therapist. If you go to any sites on Aspergers or nonverbal learning disorder, there may be a link. Bonnie > > > > > > I've been following your posts for a while and I just wanted to ask what > > are working on to address the PDD/nos? This can be a crucial piece to the > > issues you're having with him. It's good you're on the track to an ASD > > group, but you also need someone to work with him that has experience with > > spectrum disorders. > > My daughter has autism and OCD (and other issues..) and I take into > > account everything when problem solving with her. -and a side note, my daughter > > is 11 and she takes 1.00 ml Risperal in the am and .75 pm. and no side > > effects. > > > > > > > > In a message dated 10/21/2009 9:01:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > shellspace71@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > My 6 yr old, OCD, Anxiety and PDD-NOS/sendory interation disorder son is > > getting worse. Since school started he has come home and meltedown almost > > every day.I have no idea if his behavior is him trying to be a brat, or > > anxiety or something else. He hits, kicks, throws thing, has ALOT of anger. Of > > course it is saved only for me. Today, he was sitting at supper saying he was > > going to wet his pants, on purpose, I ignored this thinking it was > > attention getting, he was saying it on purpose, then he actually did it-right in > > the chair-on purpose! Never done that before. I took him in his room, told > > him to change then stay in his room. Yesterday was full of him attacking me, > > hitting me while driving, tearing my car roof, etc. I swear this has to be > > caused by school. I can't think of anything else that has changed. It is > > wearing me down emotionally and I spent a good part of last night and today > > crying. I have begged his home based therpaist (who I like more now) for > > suggestions and help, thinking it is something I am doing or maybe something > > I need to do. I am burned out. I get no help from my husband. He just gets > > mad if he get awakened by his son's tantrums. No help though. he works > > third shift and his sleep is of ultimate importance. The therapist is going to > > the school next week to observe. I am burned out. I see my therapist when I > > can but the co pay is sooo high I can afford about once a month. I am > > going to be starting an ASD group when they get a meeting time. > > My son has been sick this past month but is getting over it and I just > > don't understand his behavior. Any thoughts? He is on Zoloft, 50mg, > > risperdal.25 mg in th eAm and .25mg after school and meletonin at bedtime. I am > > beside myself. I have no idea how to help him. There is no residential treatment > > for him I was told tonight-state funding cuts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 I will look for it. My son has expressed great frustration at not being able to hear things lately (even though hearing is normal). So we are also dealing with auditory porcessing stuff which is NOT covered by insurance and we can't afford. > > > > > > I've been following your posts for a while and I just wanted to ask what > > are working on to address the PDD/nos? This can be a crucial piece to the > > issues you're having with him. It's good you're on the track to an ASD > > group, but you also need someone to work with him that has experience with > > spectrum disorders. > > My daughter has autism and OCD (and other issues..) and I take into > > account everything when problem solving with her. -and a side note, my daughter > > is 11 and she takes 1.00 ml Risperal in the am and .75 pm. and no side > > effects. > > > > > > > > In a message dated 10/21/2009 9:01:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > shellspace71@ ... writes: > > > > > > > > > > My 6 yr old, OCD, Anxiety and PDD-NOS/sendory interation disorder son is > > getting worse. Since school started he has come home and meltedown almost > > every day.I have no idea if his behavior is him trying to be a brat, or > > anxiety or something else. He hits, kicks, throws thing, has ALOT of anger. Of > > course it is saved only for me. Today, he was sitting at supper saying he was > > going to wet his pants, on purpose, I ignored this thinking it was > > attention getting, he was saying it on purpose, then he actually did it-right in > > the chair-on purpose! Never done that before. I took him in his room, told > > him to change then stay in his room. Yesterday was full of him attacking me, > > hitting me while driving, tearing my car roof, etc. I swear this has to be > > caused by school. I can't think of anything else that has changed. It is > > wearing me down emotionally and I spent a good part of last night and today > > crying. I have begged his home based therpaist (who I like more now) for > > suggestions and help, thinking it is something I am doing or maybe something > > I need to do. I am burned out. I get no help from my husband. He just gets > > mad if he get awakened by his son's tantrums. No help though. he works > > third shift and his sleep is of ultimate importance. The therapist is going to > > the school next week to observe. I am burned out. I see my therapist when I > > can but the co pay is sooo high I can afford about once a month. I am > > going to be starting an ASD group when they get a meeting time. > > My son has been sick this past month but is getting over it and I just > > don't understand his behavior. Any thoughts? He is on Zoloft, 50mg, > > risperdal.25 mg in th eAm and .25mg after school and meletonin at bedtime. I am > > beside myself. I have no idea how to help him. There is no residential treatment > > for him I was told tonight-state funding cuts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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