Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Hi, I'm and my 9yo daughter Talin has (so far) undiagnosed OCD. It started last fall when she was 8 (3rd grade-we homeschool). I noticed her tapping things. And sometimes she would walk out of a room, go back, tap once and then continue on her original path. I asked her what's going on and she said she liked to make things even. I got some books recommended by other moms of kids fighting OCD, but haven't started " What to do when your brain gets stuck " with Talin yet. After I removed some stress from our school day (relaxed on some new rigidity I had just started last fall) she seemed more at ease and the " evens " slowed or went away for a few weeks at a time. I just negotiated a price break (we are on State healthcare-little help with cost of mental health visits) at a Psychiatrists office who wrote an article in our local paper (East Central Illinois) on OCD. This Thursday Talin will meet with the counselor who works with him and she will help us set up a diagnosis/treatment plan. We are committed to 3 visits (at 1/2 price) and then we'll see where we need to go next. At the first visit the counselor will be giving 3 questionaires to us, one each for my husband and myself and one for a teacher, I'll give it to her Sunday School teacher. On a PANDAS related note, she is very sick this week (fever, mild sore thoat, severe cough) and the 72 hr strep test showed immediate results of " not strep " . She usually gets real sick like this for about a week during the summer. I'm wondering if, since her OCD has waxed and waned (with no compulsions I'm aware of other than " evens " ), if I should ask if we can rule out PANDAS. Just a little more info. Talin has always been my cautious child. She wouldn't go up a ladder at the playground as a preschooler unless she KNEW that she could get all the way over safely. That turned into a fear of heights-open staircases. She and I have been working on CBT (not knowing that is what we were doing) and she has made progress and had some instances of truely overcoming it. Recently on a visit to the Indianapolis Zoo shark exhibit, she was really concerned that I wanted to pet the sharks (dog sharks with only molar like teeth-safe enough in my book). I asked her if she wanted to pet them, she vehemently said " NO! " and then told me she didn't want me to either. I told her that there was no way I was going to miss this opportunity (I've pet whales and dolphins, but sharks? Thats, cool!) and I made her take my picture. Her anxiety in the past (I've not known exactly what she'd been anxious about) has led her to pick/tear her finger and toe nails. With awareness, we would overcome it and then when some new major stressor would come around (moving 2000 mi from home/family) she'd start in again. The spring she was 7, she picked at her toes so bad she got a major infection and we had to go see a specialist. But this month she has decided to " spare " her nails and actually has almost an 1/8th inch of white nail on every finger. We are letting her know how proud we are and rewarding her with a manicure (I am so not into doing this for young girls, but the victory is one I want to celebrate). Thanks for reading my ramble. If there's anything you recommend asking the counselor this week, please speak up. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:\ en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 , So much I can relate to in your post...my dd peels her fingernails and all the skin around it and the whole tip until bleeding...now she's started on toenails. BUT, what I really wanted to say is that we just finished a whole round of neuropsych tests, occupational and language assessments, and Aspergers questionnaires. My daughter was definitely diagnosed with OCD and GAD, with sensory integration disorder as well. BUT although both us parents scored her " very likely " on the Aspergers assessment, her teacher did not...she just acts SO extremely different at school and even on play dates away from home then she does at home with us. So she instead was " diagnosed " with lack of social skills and immaturity. Like you, we suspect it is harder for her to handle OCD moments because of the Asperger-type tendencies. I just wanted to mention this because of the striking difference between school and home, it can really be remarkable. Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Introduction and first Pdoc appt question Hi, I'm and my 9yo daughter Talin has (so far) undiagnosed OCD. It started last fall when she was 8 (3rd grade-we homeschool). I noticed her tapping things. And sometimes she would walk out of a room, go back, tap once and then continue on her original path. I asked her what's going on and she said she liked to make things even. I got some books recommended by other moms of kids fighting OCD, but haven't started " What to do when your brain gets stuck " with Talin yet. After I removed some stress from our school day (relaxed on some new rigidity I had just started last fall) she seemed more at ease and the " evens " slowed or went away for a few weeks at a time. I just negotiated a price break (we are on State healthcare-little help with cost of mental health visits) at a Psychiatrists office who wrote an article in our local paper (East Central Illinois) on OCD. This Thursday Talin will meet with the counselor who works with him and she will help us set up a diagnosis/treatment plan. We are committed to 3 visits (at 1/2 price) and then we'll see where we need to go next. At the first visit the counselor will be giving 3 questionaires to us, one each for my husband and myself and one for a teacher, I'll give it to her Sunday School teacher. On a PANDAS related note, she is very sick this week (fever, mild sore thoat, severe cough) and the 72 hr strep test showed immediate results of " not strep " . She usually gets real sick like this for about a week during the summer. I'm wondering if, since her OCD has waxed and waned (with no compulsions I'm aware of other than " evens " ), if I should ask if we can rule out PANDAS. Just a little more info. Talin has always been my cautious child. She wouldn't go up a ladder at the playground as a preschooler unless she KNEW that she could get all the way over safely. That turned into a fear of heights-open staircases. She and I have been working on CBT (not knowing that is what we were doing) and she has made progress and had some instances of truely overcoming it. Recently on a visit to the Indianapolis Zoo shark exhibit, she was really concerned that I wanted to pet the sharks (dog sharks with only molar like teeth-safe enough in my book). I asked her if she wanted to pet them, she vehemently said " NO! " and then told me she didn't want me to either. I told her that there was no way I was going to miss this opportunity (I've pet whales and dolphins, but sharks? Thats, cool!) and I made her take my picture. Her anxiety in the past (I've not known exactly what she'd been anxious about) has led her to pick/tear her finger and toe nails. With awareness, we would overcome it and then when some new major stressor would come around (moving 2000 mi from home/family) she'd start in again. The spring she was 7, she picked at her toes so bad she got a major infection and we had to go see a specialist. But this month she has decided to " spare " her nails and actually has almost an 1/8th inch of white nail on every finger. We are letting her know how proud we are and rewarding her with a manicure (I am so not into doing this for young girls, but the victory is one I want to celebrate). Thanks for reading my ramble. If there's anything you recommend asking the counselor this week, please speak up. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:\ en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Hi, . Welcome. The only thing I can think to suggest, is if the psychiatrist finds it is OCD, make sure the counseling they use is ERP (exposure and response therapy). It is the only therapy proven to work with OCD. Hopefully, she knows that since she wrote an article about it. ) Dr. Aureen Wagner also wrote a book that is a wealth of information about OCD, called What to do when your Child has Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. Glad you are here. BJ > > > Hi, > > > > I'm and my 9yo daughter Talin has (so far) undiagnosed OCD. It started last fall when she was 8 (3rd grade-we homeschool). I noticed her tapping things. And sometimes she would walk out of a room, go back, tap once and then continue on her original path. I asked her what's going on and she said she liked to make things even. I got some books recommended by other moms of kids fighting OCD, but haven't started " What to do when your brain gets stuck " with Talin yet. After I removed some stress from our school day (relaxed on some new rigidity I had just started last fall) she seemed more at ease and the " evens " slowed or went away for a few weeks at a time. > > > > I just negotiated a price break (we are on State healthcare-little help with cost of mental health visits) at a Psychiatrists office who wrote an article in our local paper (East Central Illinois) on OCD. This Thursday Talin will meet with the counselor who works with him and she will help us set up a diagnosis/treatment plan. We are committed to 3 visits (at 1/2 price) and then we'll see where we need to go next. At the first visit the counselor will be giving 3 questionaires to us, one each for my husband and myself and one for a teacher, I'll give it to her Sunday School teacher. > > > > On a PANDAS related note, she is very sick this week (fever, mild sore thoat, severe cough) and the 72 hr strep test showed immediate results of " not strep " . She usually gets real sick like this for about a week during the summer. I'm wondering if, since her OCD has waxed and waned (with no compulsions I'm aware of other than " evens " ), if I should ask if we can rule out PANDAS. > > > > Just a little more info. Talin has always been my cautious child. She wouldn't go up a ladder at the playground as a preschooler unless she KNEW that she could get all the way over safely. That turned into a fear of heights-open staircases. She and I have been working on CBT (not knowing that is what we were doing) and she has made progress and had some instances of truely overcoming it. Recently on a visit to the Indianapolis Zoo shark exhibit, she was really concerned that I wanted to pet the sharks (dog sharks with only molar like teeth-safe enough in my book). I asked her if she wanted to pet them, she vehemently said " NO! " and then told me she didn't want me to either. I told her that there was no way I was going to miss this opportunity (I've pet whales and dolphins, but sharks? Thats, cool!) and I made her take my picture. Her anxiety in the past (I've not known exactly what she'd been anxious about) has led her to pick/tear her finger and toe nails. With awareness, we would overcome it and then when some new major stressor would come around (moving 2000 mi from home/family) she'd start in again. The spring she was 7, she picked at her toes so bad she got a major infection and we had to go see a specialist. But this month she has decided to " spare " her nails and actually has almost an 1/8th inch of white nail on every finger. We are letting her know how proud we are and rewarding her with a manicure (I am so not into doing this for young girls, but the victory is one I want to celebrate). > > > > Thanks for reading my ramble. If there's anything you recommend asking the counselor this week, please speak up. > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you're up to on Facebook. > http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:\ en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Hi , Just wanted to say welcome. Hope your appointment goes well - fortunate that you have someone with expertise near you. BJ has already mentioned asking about ERP. The C-YBOCS is the questionaire they use to diagnose OCD and the level of severity. If you are catching this early and she learns how to manage the OCD with ERP, she will have this tool for life. Keep us posted. Warmly, Barb > > > Hi, > > > > I'm and my 9yo daughter Talin has (so far) undiagnosed OCD. It started last fall when she was 8 (3rd grade-we homeschool). I noticed her tapping things. And sometimes she would walk out of a room, go back, tap once and then continue on her original path. I asked her what's going on and she said she liked to make things even. I got some books recommended by other moms of kids fighting OCD, but haven't started " What to do when your brain gets stuck " with Talin yet. After I removed some stress from our school day (relaxed on some new rigidity I had just started last fall) she seemed more at ease and the " evens " slowed or went away for a few weeks at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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