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Hi, have you looked yet at the OCD Foundation website for OCD meds for children?

Prozac is one of them. What are the other 2 you were thinking about? Here's a

link (hopefully works) to the OCDF page:

http://www.ocfoundation.org/ocd-medication-children.html

There isn't *one* particular medication that is better than the others, since

everyone reacts individually to them (what works for one person doesn't help

another, etc.) Of course if you need liquid, that narrows your choices. My son

(now 20) took liquid Celexa since he couldn't swallow tablets (still can't, he

chews them!). I know others here are familiar with Seroquel, but I imagine any

of the SSRI meds are okay to take with it.

Behavioral therapy - well, therapy for OCD is Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT)

with Exposure & Response Prevention (ERP). Are you looking at working on

behaviors other than OCD too? It can be difficult to find someone experienced

in treating OCD in children; seems to be more therapists for adults than

children. But the OCD Foundation website also has a " search " option that you

can use and see if anyone in your area had themselves listed on it. Yeah, it

can be stressful, anxiety-causing to work on the behaviors. But meds can help,

hopefully, lower the anxiety level and help therapy go better. You can try

therapy first, of course.

Some doctors just have a preference for what they prescribe, what they are used

to prescribing for patients and so aren't familiar with using some of the other

medications available. And then too, some doctors will only prescribe those

specifically approved for use in children (Prozac, Luvox and Zoloft per that

website above).

I'm curious, are you getting any services from a mental health agency to help

with your son, anyone to work with him? Just asking, I would think he would

qualify with autism/MR.

single mom, 3 sons

, 20, with OCD, dysgraphia, Aspergers

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> My son is autistic and has OCD and we have not found the right medication for

it.... Actually the doctor is telling me that prozac is the only med with the

least amount of side effects that can be used for a 7 year old. I did my own

research online and found out that there are two other medications that he can

take but the doctor is refusing to

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Yes, actually I have looked at that website and those are the meds that i found

to be compatible for his age. I actually took what I found out to his doctor and

he said that those were not recommended for children despite what I showed him.

He is recieving alot of services actually through DDD, childrens rebilitative

services, and I also recieve habilitation and respite. Which help help at the

same time it doesnt seem like enoughh but as much i am sure he gets overwelmed I

am sorry to say that i am too. He is constantly sweeping, wiping everything

down, constantly rearranging things such as furniture, toys, clothes, even food

items in the refridgerator and pantry. He is getting in to trouble at school as

well because his axiety gets so bad that he doesnt even want to finish school

asignments at school because he feels like he needs to put everything back where

it to him is supposed to go. When he is told he cant do these things he gets

extemely aggressive to whom ever is within reach. I feel so bad that is

consuming his life and he can barely function because of the OCD. His doctor

doesnt seem to be listening to how bad the situation is and I am kinda stuck

with this doctor because of his insurance does not covering much and this is

what they will pay for. I am going to see what he tells me on Saturday about the

therapy and chjanging his meds and see what he says otherwise I am gonna have to

see what other options I have even if I have to pay out of pocket. Thank you for

your advice I will look more at that website and see if any doctors on the

website are covered on his insurance. thank you again it also really helps to

talk to and have someone that understands where I am coming from.

> >

> > My son is autistic and has OCD and we have not found the right medication

for it.... Actually the doctor is telling me that prozac is the only med with

the least amount of side effects that can be used for a 7 year old. I did my own

research online and found out that there are two other medications that he can

take but the doctor is refusing to

>

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I don't have much advice for you, but wanted you to know that my 9 year old

daughter (and I think many others) is on Zoloft. She started taking it when she

was 8.5 years old. She takes the liquid concentrate. Also, I think some meds

may be approved for the treatment of OCD in children even if they are not

specifically approved for depression in children. you might want to google

Zoloft and look on the manufacturer's website. This is probably the information

your doctor will go by.

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> Subject: Re: Does anyone know what type of meds are good for

children?

> To:

> Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:25 PM

> Yes, actually I have looked at that

> website and those are the meds that i found to be compatible

> for his age. I actually took what I found out to his doctor

> and he said that those were not recommended for children

> despite what I showed him.

> He is recieving alot of services actually through DDD,

> childrens rebilitative services, and I also recieve

> habilitation and respite. Which help help at the same time

> it doesnt seem like enoughh but as much i am sure he gets

> overwelmed I am sorry to say that i am too. He is constantly

> sweeping, wiping everything down, constantly rearranging

> things such as furniture, toys, clothes, even food items in

> the refridgerator and pantry. He is getting in to trouble at

> school as well because his axiety gets so bad that he doesnt

> even want to finish school asignments at school because he

> feels like he needs to put everything back where it to him

> is supposed to go. When he is told he cant do these things

> he gets extemely aggressive to whom ever is within reach. I

> feel so bad that is consuming his life and he can barely

> function because of the OCD. His doctor doesnt seem to be

> listening to how bad the situation is and I am kinda stuck

> with this doctor because of his insurance does not covering

> much and this is what they will pay for. I am going to see

> what he tells me on Saturday about the therapy and chjanging

> his meds and see what he says otherwise I am gonna have to

> see what other options I have even if I have to pay out of

> pocket. Thank you for your advice I will look more at that

> website and see if any doctors on the website are covered on

> his insurance. thank you again it also really helps to talk

> to and have someone that understands where I am coming

> from. 

> > >

> > > My son is autistic and has OCD and we have not

> found the right medication for it.... Actually the doctor is

> telling me that prozac is the only med with the least amount

> of side effects that can be used for a 7 year old. I did my

> own research online and found out that there are two other

> medications that he can take but the doctor is refusing to

> >

>

>

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My youngest daughter took Paxil at age seven and then moved on to Luvox within

several months.? She has taken Luvox for nine years now and it is working well

for her.? Kelley in NV

Re: Does anyone know what type of meds are good for

children?

> To:

> Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:25 PM

> Yes, actually I have looked at that

> website and those are the meds that i found to be compatible

> for his age. I actually took what I found out to his doctor

> and he said that those were not recommended for children

> despite what I showed him.

> He is recieving alot of services actually through DDD,

> childrens rebilitative services, and I also recieve

> habilitation and respite. Which help help at the same time

> it doesnt seem like enoughh but as much i am sure he gets

> overwelmed I am sorry to say that i am too. He is constantly

> sweeping, wiping everything down, constantly rearranging

> things such as furniture, toys, clothes, even food items in

> the refridgerator and pantry. He is getting in to trouble at

> school as well because his axiety gets so bad that he doesnt

> even want to finish school asignments at school because he

> feels like he needs to put everything back where it to him

> is supposed to go. When he is told he cant do these things

> he gets extemely aggressive to whom ever is within reach. I

> feel so bad that is consuming his life and he can barely

> function because of the OCD. His doctor doesnt seem to be

> listening to how bad the situation is and I am kinda stuck

> with this doctor because of his insurance does not covering

> much and this is what they will pay for. I am going to see

> what he tells me on Saturday about the therapy and chjanging

> his meds and see what he says otherwise I am gonna have to

> see what other options I have even if I have to pay out of

> pocket. Thank you for your advice I will look more at that

> website and see if any doctors on the website are covered on

> his insurance. thank you again it also really helps to talk

> to and have someone that understands where I am coming

> from.?

> > >

> > > My son is autistic and has OCD and we have not

> found the right medication for it.... Actually the doctor is

> telling me that prozac is the only med with the least amount

> of side effects that can be used for a 7 year old. I did my

> own research online and found out that there are two other

> medications that he can take but the doctor is refusing to

> >

>

>

>

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I just checked Pfizer's website (www.Zoloft.com) and it says Zoloft is approved

by the FDA to treat OCD in children ages 6-17.

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> Subject: Re: Does anyone know what type of meds are good for

children?

> To:

> Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:25 PM

> Yes, actually I have looked at that

> website and those are the meds that i found to be compatible

> for his age. I actually took what I found out to his doctor

> and he said that those were not recommended for children

> despite what I showed him.

> He is recieving alot of services actually through DDD,

> childrens rebilitative services, and I also recieve

> habilitation and respite. Which help help at the same time

> it doesnt seem like enoughh but as much i am sure he gets

> overwelmed I am sorry to say that i am too. He is constantly

> sweeping, wiping everything down, constantly rearranging

> things such as furniture, toys, clothes, even food items in

> the refridgerator and pantry. He is getting in to trouble at

> school as well because his axiety gets so bad that he doesnt

> even want to finish school asignments at school because he

> feels like he needs to put everything back where it to him

> is supposed to go. When he is told he cant do these things

> he gets extemely aggressive to whom ever is within reach. I

> feel so bad that is consuming his life and he can barely

> function because of the OCD. His doctor doesnt seem to be

> listening to how bad the situation is and I am kinda stuck

> with this doctor because of his insurance does not covering

> much and this is what they will pay for. I am going to see

> what he tells me on Saturday about the therapy and chjanging

> his meds and see what he says otherwise I am gonna have to

> see what other options I have even if I have to pay out of

> pocket. Thank you for your advice I will look more at that

> website and see if any doctors on the website are covered on

> his insurance. thank you again it also really helps to talk

> to and have someone that understands where I am coming

> from. 

> > >

> > > My son is autistic and has OCD and we have not

> found the right medication for it.... Actually the doctor is

> telling me that prozac is the only med with the least amount

> of side effects that can be used for a 7 year old. I did my

> own research online and found out that there are two other

> medications that he can take but the doctor is refusing to

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

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I wonder if your child's autism is part of the reason the dr. is

reluctant to order more meds. I know with my daughter who has

aspergers that she does not respond well to ssris for some reason. If

she were to be medicated, the dose would have to be extremely small.

I think prescribing medication for children with autism is tricky and

should be done by a psychiatrist who is knowledgeable about autism.

Sandy

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My daughter has Asperger and OCD. We were very scared to try

any medication at first.

Two of the child psychiatrists I interviewed seemed fearful

about treating kids with genetic or autistic issues.

The two others I interviewed were very confident in using

a mix of medications if need be to help improve the childs life.

I read also on the Mass General Hospital website that they

recommendsd that kids with autism

be started on medication at low doses. This is what we did.

We started on a low dose of zoloft and about every 2-3 weeks

we increased it. I think this is a good strategy to use

with sensitive kids.

Regarding OCD and autism treatment. We have had good sucess

this summer with gradual exposure to feared issues with a

postive reinforcement. I have not increased the exposures

to where she was upset or stressed. I find then she is totally

resistent and I have to start over. So the key has been not to overwhelm her.

There are lots of medications for OCD that could be used for

your son.

Some psychiatrists are very conservative in treating children

as I said and don't like to mix medication, I would avoid

these kind of MD's. MD's that treat bipolar children would

have lots of experience mixing medications.

If your son is on seroquel as a mood stabizer and for managing

sleep issues other medications can be added to treat the

OCD anxiety.

I hope you can find a MD that has a pediatric psychiatric practice.

Pam

>

> My son is autistic and has OCD and we have not found the right medication for

it.... Actually the doctor is telling me that prozac is the only med with the

least amount of side effects that can be used for a 7 year old. I did my own

research online and found out that there are two other medications that he can

take but the doctor is refusing to listen to me and I am not sure what to do. I

would really like to try behavioral therapy but I dont know if I should because

of his situation would be a good idea. He also has an anoxic brain injury from

birth and a seizure disorder and mental retardation. So I dont know if it is a

good idea to put him through that because I know that it can be really

stressful. Does anyone know of any medication that is good for OCD that is

compatible with seroquel because he is on that for his anger outburst and to

help him sleep? Or if anyone has had experience with doing the behavioral

therapy so that I can have a little insight before I mention it to his Doctor at

his appointment on Saturday. Thank you!

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One other idea, sometimes a child neurologist will have lots

of experience with autistic kids and medication. And in our

area there are more that accept insurance.

>

> My son is autistic and has OCD and we have not found the right medication for

it.... Actually the doctor is telling me that prozac is the only med with the

least amount of side effects that can be used for a 7 year old. I did my own

research online and found out that there are two other medications that he can

take but the doctor is refusing to listen to me and I am not sure what to do. I

would really like to try behavioral therapy but I dont know if I should because

of his situation would be a good idea. He also has an anoxic brain injury from

birth and a seizure disorder and mental retardation. So I dont know if it is a

good idea to put him through that because I know that it can be really

stressful. Does anyone know of any medication that is good for OCD that is

compatible with seroquel because he is on that for his anger outburst and to

help him sleep? Or if anyone has had experience with doing the behavioral

therapy so that I can have a little insight before I mention it to his Doctor at

his appointment on Saturday. Thank you!

>

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Hi again! It does sound like this consumes him much of the day! What are his

hab workers doing regarding this, any goals? When he rearranges things, is it

always to put them back in some exact spot or do his arrangements vary?

Have you tried working on just 1 or 2 things? Like with the refrigerator, maybe

restrict him (try to) to rearranging things on just 1 shelf; or he can only do

it every other day (to begin with). Maybe some type of daily routine, to break

down his cleaning/rearranging to specific days; e.g., he can sweep 2 days a week

(pick days), wipe/dust other days...have him try to go by schedule...just

brainstorming here. And set up some reward type thing, earning points or

something; and even just TRYING counts (less points maybe) and any successes

that day earns more.... You could begin small, get his input on a schedule to

try, work towards his spreading out the days between more, just so he isn't

doing all the stuff each day.

Well - just some quick thoughts. Have the teachers come up with a way to handle

his outbursts at school?

>

> Yes, actually I have looked at that website and those are the meds that i

found to be compatible for his age. I actually took what I found out to his

doctor and he said that those were not recommended for children despite what I

showed him.

> He is recieving alot of services actually through DDD, childrens rebilitative

services, and I also recieve habilitation and respite. Which help help at the

same time it doesnt seem like enoughh but as

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