Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 sounds like some sensorary issues my son lacks pain unless its a deeper pain...he broke his thumb last yr and his cousin told us it looked funny...but in june he fell and hurt his knee badly and for the 1st felt pain i was happy he finally could feel it cause when you cant feel pain sometimes they have no fear...and sad because it was so upsetting to him Chynna On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 8:47 PM, karenchelle@... < karenchelle@...> wrote: > My son, who is 10 years old, is having an OCD flare-up right now. Whenever > he has these flare-ups, there are certain behaviors that seem to go along > with it, even though I have a hard time understanding how it is related to > OCD. The one that is very difficult to deal with is that he will trip over > anything and everything and then super exaggerate how much pain he is in and > gets super mad when I don't give him a lot of attention for this. He > doesn't do this at other times when the OCD is not flaring up, so I know > there is a connection to the OCD. But I still don't understand it. Is it an > obsession about pain, about not getting attention, or what? It seems if I > had a clue what the obsession is really about, I might be able to help more. > Maybe it's just anger that I don't give the response he wants and his brain > has difficulty dealing with that reality? > > Any ideas on how to handle this? I think I posted about this once before > and did get some suggestions on not giving a lot of attention for this. But > is there anything else I can do? > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Our list archives feature may be accessed at: > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// by scrolling down to > the archives calendar . Our links may be accessed at > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//links . Our files > may be accessed at > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//files . > Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ), > Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), and Dan Geller, M.D. > (http://www2.massgeneral.org/pediatricpsych/staff/geller.html ). You may > ask a question of any of these mental health professionals by inserting the > words " Ask Dr.(insert name) " in the subject line of a post to the list. Our > list moderators are Castle, Judy Chabot, BJ Closner, and Barb > Nesrallah. Subscription issues or suggestions may be addressed to Louis > Harkins, list administrator, at louisharkins@... . Our group and > related groups are listed at > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdsupportgroups/links . OCF > treatment providers list may be viewed at > http://www.ocfoundation.info/treatment-providers-list.php . > NLM-NIH Drug Information Portal may be viewed at > > http://druginfo.nlm.nih.gov/drugportal/drugportal.jsp?APPLICATION_NAME=drugporta\ l. OCF recommended reading list may be viewed at > http://www.ocfoundation.org/ocd-oc-spectrum-disorders-book-list.html . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Hi , When you mention the " super mad " part of the equation, that sounds like OCD to me, or at least it would happen with ours. In our case it was as you say, not getting the response from you that they want. With ours it was sometimes " just right " stuff, where it has to go a certain way, or you need to say a word or respond in some particular way. As you say, with OCD, the brain can be very rigid, and need things to go a certain way, it is all about control. I don't have any really great ideas on handling this specifically. But did find with ours, if I could state that I understood he was having difficulty(to empathize), but did not want to feed the OCD, and so could not answer him, or do whatever. The tripping thing may well be part of a ritual he has devised, and your sympathy may be part of what he needs to satisfy an obsessive thought. For example if he was questioning whether you really loved or cared about him, he would need proof, and your showing or not showing sympathy would reinforce the thought. There can be all kinds of things attached and sometimes they cannot tell or that would break the spell of the ritual, or some such thing - no end to the possibilities really! Separate from these incidents you could try reassuring him that you love and care about him. Then maybe try talking about what's going on with these incidents and see if he is open to working a strategy. But basically you would want to not give any attention that would reinforce the ritual, if that is what it is. Best of luck on this. Hope others have some ideas. Warmly, Barb > > > My son, who is 10 years old, is having an OCD flare-up right now. Whenever > > he has these flare-ups, there are certain behaviors that seem to go along > > with it, even though I have a hard time understanding how it is related to > > OCD. The one that is very difficult to deal with is that he will trip over > > anything and everything and then super exaggerate how much pain he is in and > > gets super mad when I don't give him a lot of attention for this. He > > doesn't do this at other times when the OCD is not flaring up, so I know > > there is a connection to the OCD. But I still don't understand it. Is it an > > obsession about pain, about not getting attention, or what? It seems if I > > had a clue what the obsession is really about, I might be able to help more. > > Maybe it's just anger that I don't give the response he wants and his brain > > has difficulty dealing with that reality? > > > > Any ideas on how to handle this? I think I posted about this once before > > and did get some suggestions on not giving a lot of attention for this. But > > is there anything else I can do? > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Our list archives feature may be accessed at: > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// by scrolling down to > > the archives calendar . Our links may be accessed at > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//links . Our files > > may be accessed at > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//files . > > Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ), > > Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), and Dan Geller, M.D. > > (http://www2.massgeneral.org/pediatricpsych/staff/geller.html ). You may > > ask a question of any of these mental health professionals by inserting the > > words " Ask Dr.(insert name) " in the subject line of a post to the list. Our > > list moderators are Castle, Judy Chabot, BJ Closner, and Barb > > Nesrallah. Subscription issues or suggestions may be addressed to Louis > > Harkins, list administrator, at louisharkins@... . Our group and > > related groups are listed at > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdsupportgroups/links . OCF > > treatment providers list may be viewed at > > http://www.ocfoundation.info/treatment-providers-list.php . > > NLM-NIH Drug Information Portal may be viewed at > > > > http://druginfo.nlm.nih.gov/drugportal/drugportal.jsp?APPLICATION_NAME=drugporta\ l. OCF recommended reading list may be viewed at > > http://www.ocfoundation.org/ocd-oc-spectrum-disorders-book-list.html . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Hi Barb, Everything you said makes perfect sense--well, at least perfect OCD sense. It's true that my son questions whether I love him or care about him and will ask me those type of questions almost every day. So I can see how devising the tripping and getting hurt and then seeing how I respond could be a part of that. I'll try talking to him when he is in a calm regulated state and see what I can find out and what kind of plan we can make. > > Hi , > > When you mention the " super mad " part of the equation, that sounds like OCD to me, or at least it would happen with ours. In our case it was as you say, not getting the response from you that they want. With ours it was sometimes " just right " stuff, where it has to go a certain way, or you need to say a word or respond in some particular way. As you say, with OCD, the brain can be very rigid, and need things to go a certain way, it is all about control. > > I don't have any really great ideas on handling this specifically. But did find with ours, if I could state that I understood he was having difficulty(to empathize), but did not want to feed the OCD, and so could not answer him, or do whatever. > > The tripping thing may well be part of a ritual he has devised, and your sympathy may be part of what he needs to satisfy an obsessive thought. For example if he was questioning whether you really loved or cared about him, he would need proof, and your showing or not showing sympathy would reinforce the thought. There can be all kinds of things attached and sometimes they cannot tell or that would break the spell of the ritual, or some such thing - no end to the possibilities really! > > Separate from these incidents you could try reassuring him that you love and care about him. Then maybe try talking about what's going on with these incidents and see if he is open to working a strategy. But basically you would want to not give any attention that would reinforce the ritual, if that is what it is. > > Best of luck on this. Hope others have some ideas. > > Warmly, > Barb > > > > > > > > > My son, who is 10 years old, is having an OCD flare-up right now. Whenever > > > he has these flare-ups, there are certain behaviors that seem to go along > > > with it, even though I have a hard time understanding how it is related to > > > OCD. The one that is very difficult to deal with is that he will trip over > > > anything and everything and then super exaggerate how much pain he is in and > > > gets super mad when I don't give him a lot of attention for this. He > > > doesn't do this at other times when the OCD is not flaring up, so I know > > > there is a connection to the OCD. But I still don't understand it. Is it an > > > obsession about pain, about not getting attention, or what? It seems if I > > > had a clue what the obsession is really about, I might be able to help more. > > > Maybe it's just anger that I don't give the response he wants and his brain > > > has difficulty dealing with that reality? > > > > > > Any ideas on how to handle this? I think I posted about this once before > > > and did get some suggestions on not giving a lot of attention for this. But > > > is there anything else I can do? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Our list archives feature may be accessed at: > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// by scrolling down to > > > the archives calendar . Our links may be accessed at > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//links . Our files > > > may be accessed at > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//files . > > > Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ), > > > Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), and Dan Geller, M.D. > > > (http://www2.massgeneral.org/pediatricpsych/staff/geller.html ). You may > > > ask a question of any of these mental health professionals by inserting the > > > words " Ask Dr.(insert name) " in the subject line of a post to the list. Our > > > list moderators are Castle, Judy Chabot, BJ Closner, and Barb > > > Nesrallah. Subscription issues or suggestions may be addressed to Louis > > > Harkins, list administrator, at louisharkins@ . Our group and > > > related groups are listed at > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdsupportgroups/links . OCF > > > treatment providers list may be viewed at > > > http://www.ocfoundation.info/treatment-providers-list.php . > > > NLM-NIH Drug Information Portal may be viewed at > > > > > > http://druginfo.nlm.nih.gov/drugportal/drugportal.jsp?APPLICATION_NAME=drugporta\ l. OCF recommended reading list may be viewed at > > > http://www.ocfoundation.org/ocd-oc-spectrum-disorders-book-list.html . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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