Tony Attwood RE: Intimacy and Asperger Syndrome

[Guest guest]

If Tony Attwood was allegedly so awful at this conference, why didn't you

address your concerns at the conference ... either with the organizers or with

Tony Attwood himself?

You didn't address the issue at all, choosing instead to vent in this forum

rather than do something concrete about the situation as you have (mis)perceived

it.

That really says a lot about the situation at large.

If it bothered you that much, you would have done something about it already but

you haven't done anything other than to post a link to a petition defaming

reputable and recognized experts in the field of autism.

What's more, some of the things which you found objectionable happen to be

accurate. Go figure! It's just that you didn't like having the mirror held up

for all to see.

Raven

[Guest guest]

um where do you get the information that I did nothing about it?

Tony Attwood RE: Intimacy and Asperger

Syndrome

If Tony Attwood was allegedly so awful at this conference, why didn't

you

address your concerns at the conference ... either with the organizers

or with

Tony Attwood himself?

You didn't address the issue at all, choosing instead to vent in this

forum

rather than do something concrete about the situation as you have

(mis)perceived

it.

That really says a lot about the situation at large.

If it bothered you that much, you would have done something about it

already but

you haven't done anything other than to post a link to a petition

defaming

reputable and recognized experts in the field of autism.

What's more, some of the things which you found objectionable happen to

be

accurate. Go figure! It's just that you didn't like having the mirror

held up

for all to see.

Raven

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[Guest guest]

gprobertson wrote: " um where do you get the information that I did nothing about

it? "

Someone who brags about having worked with literally thousands of youth when she

first joins a forum and who makes a big deal about what she does in for the

school board is someone who is going to post publicly if she did something about

someone as influential as Tony Attwood allegedly speaking negatively at a

conference about Autistics.

Why would you brag about lesser things and then not brag about doing something

about the Attwood/conference situation? Logically speaking, you would speak

MORE about what you had done with regards to the Attwood situation had you done

something.

Raven

[Guest guest]

Teachers over a long career work with thousands of children,

particularly if they have managerial roles. That is a fact, not

bragging. I don't think saying publicly what I did about the Tony

Attwood matter would be bragging. I have had that conversation on some

lists I belong to and with some groups in real life. I did something

about the issue here too but it was not very well received but that

isn't surprising. Not much that I do or think is well received here.

Re: Tony Attwood RE: Intimacy and Asperger

Syndrome

gprobertson wrote: " um where do you get the information that I did

nothing about

it? "

Someone who brags about having worked with literally thousands of youth

when she

first joins a forum and who makes a big deal about what she does in for

the

school board is someone who is going to post publicly if she did

something about

someone as influential as Tony Attwood allegedly speaking negatively at

a

conference about Autistics.

Why would you brag about lesser things and then not brag about doing

something

about the Attwood/conference situation? Logically speaking, you would

speak

MORE about what you had done with regards to the Attwood situation had

you done

something.

Raven

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[Guest guest]

" I have had that conversation on some lists I belong to and with some groups in

real life. I did something about the issue here too but it was not very well

received but that isn't surprising. Not much that I do or think is well received

here. "

Well, I think as far as this particular issue goes, we took a look at it and

felt differently than you do.

Generally speaking, Bad Talk = Bad in the minds of Aspies, and this is the case

because Aspies generally do not ake much of a look into who is doing the talking

and why. In this case, there is a lot of truth in what was said about Aspies and

relationships. I do not think other Aspies really explored what was said in

detail, which was why they probably supported you on the issue.

Administrator

[Guest guest]

gprobertson wrote: " Teachers over a long career work with thousands of children,

particularly if they have managerial roles. That is a fact, not bragging ...

<snip> ... "

But you did not claim to be a teacher in your post of October 5, 2008. What you

wrote was: "

I have worked with literally thousands of young children

and being a good person has not been a prime motivating factor in their

behaviour ... <snip> ... [end quote]. "

And in subsequent posts, you have not claimed to be a teacher in a managerial

role.

What you did claim was as follows: "

[Guest guest]

You have twisted and skewed other people's posts in the hopes that you

can make

yourself look good by claiming their words as your own and implying

that those

other people don't know what they're talking about.

this is what you do, raven

[Guest guest]

Come on, surely you can draft a more mature response.

>

>

> this is what you do, raven

[Guest guest]

gprobertson wrote: " this is what you do, raven. "

Reread your posts, gprobertson and you'll see that this is your mantle to wear.

Raven

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Zoe wrote: " Come on, surely [gprobertson] can draft a more mature response. "

Unfortunately, Zoe, I believe that this is truth of gprobertson.

Her posts bear out the fact that what I have said about her behaviour in this

forum is correct and accurate. And true to form, she goes for a passive

aggressive dig.

She has made many outrageous claims since she joined, only to backtrack on said

claims. She has purposely and maliciously taken comments out of context to

cause disruption in the forum. She has compared 'apples to oranges' when she is

realizes that her point of view is flawed.

And she takes possession of other people's correct posts when she realizes she

is incorrect and attempts to make it her own all the while attempting to hang

her incorrect opinions on the shoulders of those whose correct opinions she

attempts to highjack.

What's more, the one line posts (e.g. the auntyjack post) that add nothing to

discussions are very NT in nature.

gprobertson has been a member of other forums for Autistics where she has been

banned. Not just one forum, not just two forums, but four that I know about

(and three to which gprobertson admitted to on her own ... a search of the forum

will yield her posts to this end).

So, Zoe, I have to conclude that perhaps the aforementioned post by gprobertson

is indicative of her level of maturity.

Raven

[Guest guest]

Would it be more helpful if I ranted and railed against people who

disagree iwth me or who do not like my ideas?

Re: Re: Tony Attwood RE: Intimacy and

Asperger Syndrome

Come on, surely you can draft a more mature response.

>

>

> this is what you do, raven

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gproberston wrote: "this is what you do, raven"Zoe responded: "Come on, surely you can draft a more mature response."

gprobertston replied: "Would it be more helpful if I ranted and railed against people who disagree iwth [sic] me or who do not like my ideas?"

It would be more helpful if you did away with the passive aggressive responses and if you did away with the personal digs and if you did away with trying to claim as your own words that are posted by others et al.

Raven