Re: Geier interview, high testosterone in girls

[Guest guest]

I had the pleasure of having dinner with Dr. Geier and son Mark last

spring. They looked over Allie's records and said she has classic

metal poisoning and invited me to participate in the study. But Allie

has normal levels of testosterone and all the other " precocious

puberty " stuff. I took the copy of Dr. Geier's study protocol and gave

it to the ped, he read over it and ordered the tests. Since they came

back normal we aren't candidates for the study. I would suggest you

contact Dr. Geier and ask for the .pdf of the study and/or the

specific tests that should be run and make an appointment with your

daughter's ped.

Debi

[Guest guest]

Debi,

Do you have contact information for Dr. Geier or testing protocols pdfs that you

could

forward me?

TIA,

Serena

> back normal we aren't candidates for the study. I would suggest you

> contact Dr. Geier and ask for the .pdf of the study and/or the

> specific tests that should be run and make an appointment with your

> daughter's ped.

[Guest guest]

I don't know about that theory. I personally have a friend whose daughter has

been taking Lupron shots for years and she still has Autism. It has made her

chubby.

They gave it to her to prevent her period.

I wish they would us statistics when they make claims like that.

Candis

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[Guest guest]

Serena, I don't at the moment, we're in the middle of a remodel & all

my papers are crazy & my search feature of Windows locks up every time

I try to open it. I looked through my bookmarks but I cannot find his

website link. <grrh> I'll keep trying to find his card and if I do

I'll email it to you.

HTH,

Debi

-- In Autism_in_Girls , " Serena Hendricks "

<serena@s...> wrote:

>

> Debi,

>

> Do you have contact information for Dr. Geier or testing protocols

pdfs that you could

> forward me?

>

> TIA,

>

> Serena

>

> > back normal we aren't candidates for the study. I would suggest you

> > contact Dr. Geier and ask for the .pdf of the study and/or the

> > specific tests that should be run and make an appointment with your

> > daughter's ped.

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know anything about your friend or really even that much about

lupron. I've often wondered if a child is hitting puberty early if it

is really bad to let it happen or worse not to let it happen. Dr.

Geier bases it all on testosterone having an affinity to mercury, and

that's one possibility for why more boys have autism, that the mercury

is better fought off by girls because of estrogen, unless they happen

to have abnormally high testosterone.

Dr. Geier's protocol isn't that lupron will make them not have autism,

it's one part of a very intenstive protocol. A child in the study not

only has to show abnormally high testosterone, but also follow a

chelation protocol and many other things. He's in the middle of a

scientific study that will be available to show the statistics, but

evidently not that many doctors even test children with autism for

high testosterone, I don't know that any data would be available, but

he said he's finding huge gains from those children who do fit the

criteria.

I agree with you, we gotta be careful with claims! Seems very sad to

me (though I've not walked their shoes and don't know how much they

might pinch me in a few yrs, lol) to give a chemical to a person just

to not have a period. Of course, that child might not have any

self-help abilities, etc. Just seems to be sad is all.

Debi

[Guest guest]

As I understand it, the issue isn't giving Lupron to not let puberty happen,

it's the fact

that having a higher testosterone level is causing these kids to not be able to

excrete

mercury that well since it binds to testosterone. I have an 11 year old

daughter and the fact

that she has had a lot of anger, sleep problems, hyperactivity, not being able

to focus, etc.

etc. it makes a lot of sense to me that her high testosterone level could cause

these problems,

as well as all the heavy metals in her body.

Also that the ratio of girls to boys is so much lower. I think this is an

exciting discovery and I'm

hoping this can help my daughter make much progress and function better.

Kathy Hudson

( new to list )

Re: Geier interview, high testosterone in girls

I don't know anything about your friend or really even that much about

lupron. I've often wondered if a child is hitting puberty early if it

is really bad to let it happen or worse not to let it happen. Dr.

Geier bases it all on testosterone having an affinity to mercury, and

that's one possibility for why more boys have autism, that the mercury

is better fought off by girls because of estrogen, unless they happen

to have abnormally high testosterone.

Dr. Geier's protocol isn't that lupron will make them not have autism,

it's one part of a very intenstive protocol. A child in the study not

only has to show abnormally high testosterone, but also follow a

chelation protocol and many other things. He's in the middle of a

scientific study that will be available to show the statistics, but

evidently not that many doctors even test children with autism for

high testosterone, I don't know that any data would be available, but

he said he's finding huge gains from those children who do fit the

criteria.

I agree with you, we gotta be careful with claims! Seems very sad to

me (though I've not walked their shoes and don't know how much they

might pinch me in a few yrs, lol) to give a chemical to a person just

to not have a period. Of course, that child might not have any

self-help abilities, etc. Just seems to be sad is all.

Debi

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[Guest guest]

I've heard and read that Lupron is terrible to give our autistic girls. I'm

not saying I know much about this, just what I've heard and read.

Diane

Re: Geier interview, high testosterone in

girls

I don't know about that theory. I personally have a friend whose daughter

has been taking Lupron shots for years and she still has Autism. It has made

her chubby.

They gave it to her to prevent her period.

I wish they would us statistics when they make claims like that.

Candis

Autism Research Survey online at:

http://www.inclusioncommunitytrainingcenter.org

Candis Firchau,MA,TLPC

Director

Inclusion Community Training Center

Advocacy, Behavioral Interventions, Counseling

and Training

This email is intended exclusively for the person to whom it was addressed.

This email is confidential. If you have received this email by error, please

disregard it.

[Guest guest]

Everything I've heard is that it's only been used in men, but I don't

know if that's accurate or not. Perhaps if the testosterone thing does

become a proven issue there might be alternatives for females.

Debi

[Guest guest]

I know Lupron is used in the process of harvesting eggs prior to IVF

because it inhibits pituitary secretions, and this maximizes the

number of oocytes that can be retrieved. A friend of mine who went

through IVF had Lupron injected during the preparatory phase.

> Everything I've heard is that it's only been used in men, but I don't

> know if that's accurate or not. Perhaps if the testosterone thing does

> become a proven issue there might be alternatives for females.

>

> Debi

>

>

[Guest guest]

I missed the beginning of this discussion about high testosterone. I am

particularly interested because I have suspected that my 9y/o girl (has twin

brother) with autism must high levels of testosterone. She has always been more

like a boy. I would love to read this paper or visit a web site. How did this

discussion originate? N.