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Sorry about not indicating whose words are whose. It was in different

colors before I sent it. I'll fix it.

Chris's words have <> around them.

<, well first - Fitzgibbons! Wow, you're lucky! Things should go much

better once you begin with her.>

I hope it goes well. All my apples are in that one barrel at this point.

< used to do the " get in bed, get back out " thing. That could happen

anywhere really, if he was just trying to sit down in a chair too, etc. I

also stayed up until he was finally " in. " He didn't really need me there to

say anything to him, but I just couldn't leave him and go on to bed myself

(LOL, which I did complain about on my less supportive nights).>

It's the same for Lilly. I keep a flashlight and a book in her room and try

to keep my sanity by reading. It's fine unless I'm exhausted. Most night

she sleeps through the night. Last night she was up from 3-4 am. Tried to

get back in bed and it wasn't working so well. Thought the couch might be a

better option and we stayed down there for a while. She gave up (it was cold

too) and went back to her bed and was finally able to get back to sleep.

<I'm not sure how I would have handled it if I had to keep saying to him

that

it was normal.... I know sometimes he'd be in tears saying he couldn't do

it, and I would tell him he could, that he always has in the past been able

to eventually get it " right " and he would this time too, etc. (It had to

feel " right " for him to not get back up) >

<Someone suggested that we try working on it at another time of day. To have

him get on the bed and try to stay on longer before getting back up, just

some exposures to do. But he could easily get on his bed, lie down, any

other time of the day, just at actual bedtime that this would happen. Is

that the same with your daughter? >

Yes, it's the same for the most part. Which is why I worry about the whole

erp thing because when she's busy and around other people the ocd doesn't

bother her so much. How can she work on erp if she isn't having anxiety.

Well, we could bring her tooth brush and she could at least brush them on

that day. It's been one of the more difficult things lately and yesterday

we just decided that mouthwash was enough. I worry though because she gets

cavities easily.

<I'm thinking with the toothbrushing, if I have the scenario right, that the

2 hour wait is a gain; otherwise, wouldn't she brush earlier and then brush

again...more times brushing? Plus if she can hold out for that 2 hours,

that's good. Can you increase it from 2 hours? >

Maybe if we start earlier. We start now at 8 pm and are not to bed before

11 because of various issues. (changing clothes, teeth, getting into bed.)

<Quick thoughts and lots of empathy! >

Thanks!

Shaw

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