Re: Parents of autistic kids seek class-action status against Blue Cross

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> Let's hope the insurance companies win. As we know, ABA therapists have

> no real certification process,

aba toilet trained Ravi in a week. I think certain things related to health

should be covered. Safety awareness, in the case of a person who bolts or

wanders (location devices)Service dog moneies for extreme cases, toilet training

in children over 4. (that only took a week) At that time I was just trying to

keep him safe and vomit free; toilet training was beyond me. Teaching is not

the job of insurance companies, but preventive safety should be(especially in

extreme cases)

These things should be determined case by case not blanket. I have state

insurance and it is a lot of red tape but they have paid for safety issues.

They were actually providing diapers, having him trained meant no more diapers.

over time they have cut back, I have been very lucky, i never abused what I

recieved bc I didn't want to risk losing what was needed (also lying is too hard

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If people lost coverage for lying maybe it could be better run. People lie and

betray because there is no punishment for being a sleez, if people lost things

for bad behavior, life would be better (maybe that is naive) but look at the

slew of cases that have failed to punish unprofessionalism, meanness, lies,

betrayal. Maybe I am just stating the reasons I don't leave my house very often

sigh

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" aba toilet trained Ravi in a week. "

ABA therapy is inconsistent across the board.

There is no standardized training and some ABA therapists practice medicine

without a license. These therapists are being prosecuted in the state of Oregon

in the US. Additionally, there is a laundry list of clients who have been abused

by ABA therapists who gravitate more toward the Lovvas method that intensive

behavioral intervention.

It is good that your therapist had success with Ravi, but it is important for

people to know that it is a crapshoot about whether or not they will get a good

therapist.

Administrator

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> It is good that your therapist had success with Ravi, but it is important for

people to know that it is a crapshoot about whether or not they will get a good

therapist.

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what you say is very very true. I have always resisted ABA for Ravi and what

ABA means is always open for discussion. many will tell you modern or modified

ABA is what they use. Which in short means repetition, and positive

reinforcement rather than negative reinforcement. I was only pointing out that

in the case of training a person to preform a task is a place where repetition

training can work.

Ravi ABA for toilet training meant every 20 min he was taken to use the toilet.

Within a week and after praise for evacuating in the " restroom " ravi understood

that 1. it was ok and clean to evacuate, and 2. The process would not hurt him.

In retrospect Ravi was averse to the sound of flushing. In many cases, he still

is. He refuses often to use public restrooms (these are often louder)